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To taskkiller or not?

So I've seen a lot of tossing back and forth on the issue. So having the task killer running less battery efficient than just closing out of some programs?

Many people will tell you "of course!" while other will say "how could you!?" This is a pretty long read, but it gives you many good reasons why you should not be using one. Personally I do not, but I'll occasionally kill poorly written apps that don't close and use the processor/battery.

Android is doing a great job managing tasks on its own, no need for battery-draining apps.
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The thing to do is do some extensive reading and decide for yourself. I have decided against it. Android does a good job of memory management. If you have a problem app, you can stop it with the device's own method.
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I personally do not use one, but I can say if I found an app to easily force close one app at a time I would probably use it. Maybe one with a favorites list or something. The stock method to force close a troublesome app is rather annoying IMO because it takes forever to find the right one in the huge list of apps, and I have some apps, Pandora is the most common, that occasionally will freeze when going out of range of WiFi while trying to connect, or when the app is in the recently used list for a long time.
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I personally do not use one, but I can say if I found an app to easily force close one app at a time I would probably use it. Maybe one with a favorites list or something. The stock method to force close a troublesome app is rather annoying IMO because it takes forever to find the right one in the huge list of apps, and I have some apps, Pandora is the most common, that occasionally will freeze when going out of range of WiFi while trying to connect, or when the app is in the recently used list for a long time.
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I use "Where's my droid power" (without quotes, of course). In this, it's rather easy to find any app you've run.
Hit the app you want, and hit details. That opens the screen to force close, clear cache, etc.
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Simba501 said:
I use "Where's my droid power" (without quotes, of course). In this, it's rather easy to find any app you've run.
Hit the app you want, and hit details. That opens the screen to force close, clear cache, etc.
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Thanks for this, I just got it and will try it out, it has a pretty simple UI which I like, and the percentages seem to make sense although I kinda wonder how it figures them out lol, still would prefer a favorites list. But it definitely does make it easier to find the app u want to force close.
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tjb433 said:
Thanks for this, I just got it and will try it out, it has a pretty simple UI which I like, and the percentages seem to make sense although I kinda wonder how it figures them out lol, still would prefer a favorites list. But it definitely does make it easier to find the app u want to force close.
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No problem. Yeah, I'm not sure how it figures the percentages either, but it does seem roughly accurate.
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Not. No task killer will ever manage android memory as good/efficiently as the Linux kernel. If you want to make the kernel more aggressive at killing off processes and apps, you can very easily put an echo script in Init.d to change the minfree values. Some kernels(like mine) already do this. I have set so it will pretty much never drop to below 90-100 mb of free ram. Sense seems to run pretty good like this, and never bog down

Is there anyway to easily force close an app other than going thru a bunch of menus? I don't know of any other way to completely wipe the cache and history from the browser other than to force close it. Without force closing you can still use the back arrow to see where you have been. If i'm done browsing then the next time I browse I like to open the app with a brand new session and have it go to the home screen.
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There are two options I can think of off the top of my head. One is to use a different browser that will let you clear the cache on exit. I believe both Mirren and Firefox do this. Dolphin might also.
The second way is to use something like Process Monitor Widget which brings all running processes as close as two taps.
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Active Apps is a pretty nice Task Killer program. It similar to the Samsung line, in that it only allows you to close apps that you specifically open. This prevents you from closing the apps that will automatically (behind your back) re-open, and therefore use more battery life. It has 4 screens - 1 for task killing, 1 for quick uninstalls, 1 for RAM clearing, and 1 for storage capacity. Ad-filled version is Free from market, non-Ad version is like $2, but well worth it.
Set up a widget to monitor how many apps are running straight from your home page.

I've used a task killer for a long time, and I always thought it was great. I always noticed that my phone always ran more quickly than anyone elses comparable device. My battery however suffered. It seemed that where the task killer kept my phone flying through processes, when it was running it took the battery down. Now that I'm rooted and running gingerbread with sense3.0 I don't use it and my phone not only fly's but the battery is decent (as it can be).

[Q] True Multitasking?

I'm wondering if there is an app that allows true backgrounding or multitasking in Android. In other words, whenever I switch an app and go somewhere else, and then return back to a previous app, I would expect that app to be in the same state as when I left it.
This currently only happens with a few apps, it's hit or miss. So far I haven't found a fix or an app that resolves this issue. Not to create a fight, but the iPhone had background apps that kept apps in memory so that when you returned the app was in the same exact state as when you left it. Thanks all.

I use the home key in order to do this and it works for the apps that i have done it with. Was just using it this way the other day to jump between file explore and an online post. I would use file explorer hit the home key go back to my browser. Then hit the home key while in the browser and would go back to file explorer and everything in both apps was as i left them. Try that see how it works for you.

Carlrobling said:
I use the home key in order to do this and it works for the apps that i have done it with. Was just using it this way the other day to jump between file explore and an online post. I would use file explorer hit the home key go back to my browser. Then hit the home key while in the browser and would go back to file explorer and everything in both apps was as i left them. Try that see how it works for you.
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Make sure you hold down the Home key and it will show you your last 8 used apps.

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Make sure you hold down the Home key and it will show you your last 8 used apps.
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Did not know that.

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Make sure you hold down the Home key and it will show you your last 8 used apps.
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Thanks I forgot to mention that although I don't usually go that far back in apps lol.

If you hit the back button to exit the app, it will usually exit it- hit the home button and it will background it. Android DOES 100% true multitasking, realize if you run low on ram, the kernel will kill old processes and start killing your oldest used apps as it needs to.

Yes i already knew of the home button function, but that DOES NOT always work! For example lets say im was in the middle of writing a tweet in Tweetcaster and i leave the app (by pressing home) to reference somthing in the Browser. If I then bring up the recent apps and reselect Tweetcaster, my unfinished tweet will be gone as the app will instead be in its starting screen.
Likewise another app that doesnt truly multitask is the WatchESPN app. You'll lose your video if you leave the app no matter what.
There are many other apps that behave like this. I was hoping there was a seperate app that offered "TRUE" multitasking or backgrounding, which keeps apps in memory so that u can return to an app in the exact state as you left it, but for ALL APPS and not just some. Thanks

99% of the apps I've used and use pick up right where I left off, sometimes even days later. There probably is a few that wont as you described, which is probably due more to how the programmer coded the app to exit.
I'd say most (all of my apps do) truely multitask

Don't try the recent apps just try clicking the app itself.
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Webos is the only one
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Don't try the recent apps just try clicking the app itself.
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That doesn't make any difference I don't think. Recent apps is just a list of those same program icons listed in a convenient pop-up window, ordered by usage.
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That doesn't make any difference I don't think. Recent apps is just a list of those same program icons listed in a convenient pop-up window, ordered by usage.
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Could be not sure. It's just the way I do it and always works for me.
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Could be not sure. It's just the way I do it and always works for me.
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Whatever your preference, I was just mentioning I don't think there's any functional difference that would make one way any more effective than the other.
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Whatever your preference, I was just mentioning I don't think there's any functional difference that would make one way any more effective than the other.
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I agree it probably doesn't matter which way. Could just be the app he is using. Some apps are set up to shut down with the back button and/or the home key. So at this point if either of those don't work then I'm out of ideas. I do know that android caches the apps you use so they should be saved in there current state. If they are not then maybe try a restart as your memory may be low so android is closing out these apps to compensate. One last question are you using a task killer/manager.

jaw2012 said:
I'm wondering if there is an app that allows true backgrounding or multitasking in Android. In other words, whenever I switch an app and go somewhere else, and then return back to a previous app, I would expect that app to be in the same state as when I left it.
This currently only happens with a few apps, it's hit or miss. So far I haven't found a fix or an app that resolves this issue. Not to create a fight, but the iPhone had background apps that kept apps in memory so that when you returned the app was in the same exact state as when you left it. Thanks all.
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I use Taskswitcher from the market for exactly this on Atrix. Had no problems yet and didn't drain the battery either.
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di11igaf said:
If you hit the back button to exit the app, it will usually exit it- hit the home button and it will background it. Android DOES 100% true multitasking, realize if you run low on ram, the kernel will kill old processes and start killing your oldest used apps as it needs to.
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I understand that Android CAN offer true multitasking, but thats NOT 100% always the case.
As others have said, some apps don't behave for those times when you minimize and not exit the app because you want to return to the app. WatchESPN, TweetCaster, native Android music app, and in-browser streaming video are only a few of the Apps that fail to multitask or "background".
For those instances, it seems Android offers a setting to the developer to either have the app behave in the background for easy multitasking, or it also allows developers to basically kill the app once its in the background, making "True Multitasking" anything but!
So thats why I was hoping there was an app that took this "backgrounding" option out of the apps hands and instead stored all apps into memory that you wanted to be backgrounded. For instance you could background apps either by a hotkey action or you could kill an app so that it doesn't background, this way not all opened apps get backgrounded and use up all system resources.
Anyway, thats what I've been looking for and haven't found an implementation like this. Hopefully I've just overlooked and someone can enlighten me?! Thanks all.

Yea would like to know as well. Blackberry playbook does true multitasking like a PC. Games and youtube video run in backgroud without pausing when we switch.
Havent come across that in android. Maybe i missed it somewhere. I think. Android has task switching' instead of multitasking?
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So you would actually want a video to keep playing when something else had fullscreen focus? That just doesn't make sense. As a developer, I'll tell you that it is certainly possible, but FFS why? Now if I'm listening to music, that makes sense. Run it in the background while I'm looking up stuff on the web or something, but most audio apps DO do that.
It's not a matter of the device being incapable, it's a matter of what's practical.

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So you would actually want a video to keep playing when something else had fullscreen focus? That just doesn't make sense. As a developer, I'll tell you that it is certainly possible, but FFS why? Now if I'm listening to music, that makes sense. Run it in the background while I'm looking up stuff on the web or something, but most audio apps DO do that.
It's not a matter of the device being incapable, it's a matter of what's practical.
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I feel that we should be able to run youtube videos / games running in background just like a PC. I mean our phones are as powerful as PCs from few years back. Say I have one tab running email/browsing and other a video. There may be a time where you want to quickly switch to another task/app and move back to watching the video. It may sound impractical but there should be an option to have this.
Else its just 'task switcher' like ios > 4. I like the way BB playbook has TRUE multitasking.
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I may get some flak for this but webos is the shizznit at true multitasking and the way all these companies steel from each other these days and the palm people that went to Google they should implement the card stile multitasking on Android some how. That would be killer. Don't make it look just like webos but something like it.

[Q][Android] Keep app alive...?

Hello all,
Just wondering.
I know there's a load of task managers etc that kill apps, but:
Are there any apps that you can use to keep an app alive and not close in the background. e.g. If you press home, the built in memory manager won't kill it eventually.
Thanks.

If you are using a task killer this feature would be called "whitelist".

Thanks for your reply.
I'm not using a task killer, but android automatically kills tasks after a while if in the background.
I'm basically looking for an app that will bypass this, for apps I choose.

Get an app called WatchDog. It's a task killer that doesn't mindlessly kill your apps (Which actually waste more battery for those apps that instantly reboot.) and you can whitelist apps.

Got watchdog, but this doesn't do what I need. I need the option/ability to be able to keep an app in the background indefinitely, unless I choose otherwise.
I think I may have found the answer in another post. Paul22000 has stated that it's built into Android and the only way around this may be to get it built into a custom ROM.

It might help if you explain which app and why, there may be another way.
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To cut a long story short. I'm trying to build an app in app inventor that stays alive, but it's not possible within app inventor, so I'm trying to find a work around.

Right on... But why do you want too create an app that never shuts down? Have to ask because I am a little intrigued here
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So that it works properly

it will work properly its just that android will close it if it feels it is using to much memory in the back round some of my apps stay on all day as long as it doesnt consume to much space

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it will work properly its just that android will close it if it feels it is using to much memory in the back round some of my apps stay on all day as long as it doesnt consume to much space
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But what if I don't want android to close it...? I simply want android to ignore it.

Just Me said:
But what if I don't want android to close it...? I simply want android to ignore it.
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I don't think that's possible. If Android decides that you app needs to be closed (e.g. cause it's idle, eats too much memory, etc.) it'll shut it down, no matter what.
You can try to build your app as a service, as services run in the "background" and are less likely to be killed by Android.

This is not possible in App Inventor, which is why I'm looking for a work around.

Haven't found a solution?
I'm trying the same thing. My Optimus 2x kills Opera and Spotify faaar too fast. Common use case: Surf->Home->Send text message->open Opera, then it has to be restarted, not loaded from memory. I'm using AutoKiller now, which is supposed to be able to keep apps alive if I manually set a variable in it (oom), but it's very temporary so I'm guessing it doesn't work too well.

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Haven't found a solution?
I'm trying the same thing. My Optimus 2x kills Opera and Spotify faaar too fast. Common use case: Surf->Home->Send text message->open Opera, then it has to be restarted, not loaded from memory. I'm using AutoKiller now, which is supposed to be able to keep apps alive if I manually set a variable in it (oom), but it's very temporary so I'm guessing it doesn't work too well.
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I agree....
I use Dolphin Mini, and if I receive a phone call, just about every single time I go back into Dolphin Mini, it has to reload. Even if I only had one or two tabs open. It's really frustrating... This happens on my EVO 4G, I hope the Epic Touch 4G doesn't have this issue (or any devices with higher ROM storage).

I looking for a solution to..
My situation: When driving in my car I run 3 apps Copilot, FlitsNav and MySpeed.. Copilot is usually my foreground app.. FlitsNav is an app that should pop up when I'm near mobile speedcams.. Sometimes it gets killed by android (even though the icon stays present in the taskbar)
any suggestions on keeping it alive? (I though about restarting the app every 5mins or so with tasker.. haven't tried yet)

If you have root, try the v6 supercharger
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That I'd one thing I actually miss from the iPhone. I'd keep apps open all the time and they would look the same when I opened them a week later. In Android my apps tend to shut down and I have to navigate back to where I was, open tabs again, etc. Can be annoying.

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thanks, I'll have to do some reading before I'll try that one..

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That is hit or miss and 90% of the time its miss

Performance boost with ASUS Task Manager

Hey guys I just foun out that with the widget "ASUS Task Manager" threw the one touch clean I had a really big performance improvement. Before I had 14 tasks running in background which made my tablet really laggy. So maybe this will help you too.
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You can also use any advanced task manager to look at the apps that autostart with the tablet and remove half of them (wisely). I'm using System Tuner at the moment. Seems more sound to me than just hitting 'kill all' once in a while manually and pretty much randomly. It's better to make your device run some while killing or even not starting others..
Infiinty users should also consider changing their Minfree values to let the system take care of freeing the memory more efficiently, you can also see my thread on tweaking in the development section.

guys. where i can download this task manager widget?
i'd like to install it on my Kindle Fire CM9. very nice tool.

juster2 said:
guys. where i can download this task manager widget?
i'd like to install it on my Kindle Fire CM9. very nice tool.
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The one OP speaks of is built into the bloatware of Asus. I use it with pretty good results. The one D14 spoke of is called System Tuner and is available at the play store by searching for it or clicking here.
The thread he referenced is a great one, albeit rather technical, and is located here.

+1 for System Tuner
A long time user of the System Tuner app...

Where does the advice, "don't use task managers with GB or newer because the OS is designed to handle tasks well" fit into this? I have read that advice all over the place and heard it on at least the Android Central podcast. I'm not saying it's wrong but this goes against that. Are we supposed to be killing tasks all the time in ICS?

PaulQ602 said:
Where does the advice, "don't use task managers with GB or newer because the OS is designed to handle tasks well" fit into this? I have read that advice all over the place and heard it on at least the Android Central podcast. I'm not saying it's wrong but this goes against that. Are we supposed to be killing tasks all the time in ICS?
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Im a firm believer in this as a general rule as people go crazy killing tasks that dont need killed. Android memory management is generally pretty good, although alot of times stock ROMs give priority to bloatware. I use the app when I notice lagginess and see that I have games still running. I depend on my tablet to keep me going all day so I can't allow alot of junk running in the background. The best route is to restart the tablet, but that even has flaws with apps autostarting. In general, if you do't know what your doing, dont use a "kill all" as you're killing processes that dont need to be killed and can actually cause your tablet to run slower until these processes restart.

There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?

PaulQ602 said:
There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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I do believe you can black list apps and autokill them anytime they pop up.

agree with Chief Geek. task killers on latest android versions can be more evil than good. never used autokill options, always in manual mode but full memory=increased battery drain. also on my kindle fire with 512mb ram, and spb shell 3d installed as default launcher, after i quit from any heavy application(games, browser w/many tabs etc) my launcher takes up to 30-40sec to load back. thats can be annoying. task killer can be useful in some circumstances.
i've found task killer similar to asus task manager. ics task manager. "Search" tool sometimes very helpful if use it with brains people without brains don't use search

PaulQ602 said:
There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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It should, it has another list for what's starting at boot time. But if these can't help, try disabling its connectivity in DroidWall or remove it manually as root from where it's installed, probably /system/app (but be careful and make a backup just in case).

PaulQ602 said:
Where does the advice, "don't use task managers with GB or newer because the OS is designed to handle tasks well" fit into this? I have read that advice all over the place and heard it on at least the Android Central podcast. I'm not saying it's wrong but this goes against that. Are we supposed to be killing tasks all the time in ICS?
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Ok, as one who has done a LOT of looking into this for a LONG time, heres my two cents.
If you are constantly killing a task that constantly starts itself up agian, that uses more power than just letting the task sit in the background memory. If extended battery life is your goal, you dont want to constantly be killing the same tasks over and over
If performance is your goal, and you want the most SPEED out of your device, then you want as much free memory available to the device as possible, hence the one click clean dealies. This is usually short lived because most of the tasks you kill will start themselves up again in short order.
Best case: Determine what tasks you are killing often and find a permenant solution. I have frozen maps on occasion because of this. Gotten rid of the facebook app, and also nerfed a bunch of free games because they kept popping up.
Overall task killers are not needed, just know your system and monitor it properly and it will run smooth.

pileot said:
Overall task killers are not needed, just know your system and monitor it properly and it will run smooth.
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This.
Task killers only temporarily work around the issue. Android is supposed to be handling processes and services by itself. Of course, there are applications that abuse the likes of "persistant" processes and services which can slow it down. Tweaking things like the SuperCharger script does can help, but it's usually apps that are the real culprits.
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PaulQ602 said:
There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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I believe that you can just "Disable" this app via the Settings->Apps menus. ICS has a nice feature that will let you disable apps that you don't need. That should stop it from running.
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[Q] Could someone please explain the JB multitasking?

Can anyone explain to me why the JellyBean multitasking is so damn weird? Whenever im using my phone and i open the task manager, i ALWAYS see a random app open which i never opened after rebooting. For example, rebooted my phone this morning and the only apps i opened were the phone app, messaging, mail. However, the task manager lists the following apps as open: "Android core apps, Tasks, Picasa Uploader, Social Manager, Notes".
So my questions is, Why are all these random apps open and eating up battery and memory? I guess android core apps must be system required to run in background at all times but what about the other ones? Is there a way to fix this?
I have used ICS and GB on htc inpire and sensation and both software versions would not show these "random" apps open, it would only show what ive opened and let run in the background.
Thanks for all the help.

mominn8266 said:
Can anyone explain to me why the JellyBean multitasking is so damn weird? Whenever im using my phone and i open the task manager, i ALWAYS see a random app open which i never opened after rebooting. For example, rebooted my phone this morning and the only apps i opened were the phone app, messaging, mail. However, the task manager lists the following apps as open: "Android core apps, Tasks, Picasa Uploader, Social Manager, Notes".
So my questions is, Why are all these random apps open and eating up battery and memory? I guess android core apps must be system required to run in background at all times but what about the other ones? Is there a way to fix this?
I have used ICS and GB on htc inpire and sensation and both software versions would not show these "random" apps open, it would only show what ive opened and let run in the background.
Thanks for all the help.
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Use an app called greenify in play store to keep apps from opening.
Here's the link to the apps XDA page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
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majortaylor said:
Use an app called greenify in play store to keep apps from opening.
Here's the link to the apps XDA page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
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Thanks ill try that app. This multitasking system really makes me mad. Why would anyone come up with a system like this that wastes battery and performance...

Unfortunately greenify only helps with non system apps. So notes, tasks, weather, social manager and etc will still have a mind of their own and open whenever they want.

mominn8266 said:
Thanks ill try that app. This multitasking system really makes me mad. Why would anyone come up with a system like this that wastes battery and performance...
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You obviously have no idea how the Android OS works.
Unless you have actual evidence that these apps are hurting your battery and performance, you should really stop worrying about it. I'm pretty sure the people who designed the OS have a pretty good idea of how to optimize its performance.

thebobmannh said:
You obviously have no idea how the Android OS works.
Unless you have actual evidence that these apps are hurting your battery and performance, you should really stop worrying about it. I'm pretty sure the people who designed the OS have a pretty good idea of how to optimize its performance.
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Maybe you could help me understand how it works then? My only question / concern is why are apps that have never been opened running in the background?

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Maybe you could help me understand how it works then? My only question / concern is why are apps that have never been opened running in the background?
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Sorry, didn't mean to be a douche (or, I did mean to, but shouldn't have been).
If you say you've "never opened" them, why do you even bother having them installed? You've been given a solution to this "problem," (Greenify), but honestly any benefit you see will more than likely be placebo. The OS is generally smart enough to know what to run and what not to run. Apps that are loaded into memory aren't necessarily "running" in the traditional sense, they're just in memory. It doesn't take any extra battery to have something in memory (memory is either powered on or not).

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Sorry, didn't mean to be a douche (or, I did mean to, but shouldn't have been).
If you say you've "never opened" them, why do you even bother having them installed? You've been given a solution to this "problem," (Greenify), but honestly any benefit you see will more than likely be placebo. The OS is generally smart enough to know what to run and what not to run. Apps that are loaded into memory aren't necessarily "running" in the traditional sense, they're just in memory. It doesn't take any extra battery to have something in memory (memory is either powered on or not).
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unless causing wakelocks or syncing/updating when you don't want them too, I tend to just turn my Radios on and off as I need them.

thebobmannh said:
Sorry, didn't mean to be a douche (or, I did mean to, but shouldn't have been).
If you say you've "never opened" them, why do you even bother having them installed? You've been given a solution to this "problem," (Greenify), but honestly any benefit you see will more than likely be placebo. The OS is generally smart enough to know what to run and what not to run. Apps that are loaded into memory aren't necessarily "running" in the traditional sense, they're just in memory. It doesn't take any extra battery to have something in memory (memory is either powered on or not).
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Dont be sorry, never took it offensively lol
I cant really uninstall system apps such as notes, tasks, social manager (even though i dont even have facebook or twitter installed). Trust me ive disabled all the apps in greenify and uninstalled all the apps i could that i didnt want.
I also have another question, When i open the "recent" app interface, does swiping to the right mean the app is closed or just taken off the list? is there a way to "kill" an app using the recent app menu?

mominn8266 said:
Dont be sorry, never took it offensively lol
I cant really uninstall system apps such as notes, tasks, social manager (even though i dont even have facebook or twitter installed). Trust me ive disabled all the apps in greenify and uninstalled all the apps i could that i didnt want.
I also have another question, When i open the "recent" app interface, does swiping to the right mean the app is closed or just taken off the list? is there a way to "kill" an app using the recent app menu?
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not sure but there's an easy way to find out.
swipe it away then check in settings, apps, running. If it's still there then no, if it isn't then, yes.
If that doesn't work then no there isn't a way to kill in recent, if it does, then yes there is and you discovered how.