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How many of you have had dropped calls on the Captivate?
I haven't had any, and I got my Captivate on the 16th. (2 days before launch from BestBuy).
I am coming from an iPhone 3G/3GS/4 and had many dropped calls.
What I am implying is that AT&T's network isn't totally crap (as most people suggest). I believe it is due to the iPhone that people think at&t's network is crap.
So the question is:
1. Does the Captivate have an exceptionally great antennea?
2. Has at&t network suddenly gotten better(since July 16th)?
3. The iphone 3G/3GS/4 have a horrible antennae?
4. Any combination of the above 3?
I've been with AT&T since before Cingular bought the old AT&T.
AT&T does not have a bad network. They suffer from terrible PR, relatively poor customer support (due to their new training with the new AT&T as I didn't have problems with Cingular), and allowing Apple to produce its phone the way they did.
The iPhone has had a poor antenna design since the beginning.
The people who have problems with AT&T, I can guarantee 70%+ have iPhones.
Thanks for confirming what I just learned. I have had iphones for a long time, and just dealt with the dropped calls thinking it was at&t sh**y network. I really like Apple products, but they don't know how to make a phone.
All my friends still think its at&t even though I tell them I haven't had a dropped call yet on this Samsung.
Yeah.. I try and tell my mother that all of the time.
She just got rid of her iPhone 2g.
Her eyes have just been opened hahaha
I have been with ATT/Cingular since .. oh.. 1998?
I've had many phones, some that would drop calls, usually from being out of ATT towers in massively rural areas, or driving past the towers too fast..
I got the eternity when it came out, killed 2 (6 months on the dot, both times) and they gave me an impression which I promptly notices it's screen starting to die at 6 months-ish. They dropped calls only when I was 1) out of decent service 2) driving too fast past a tower in close proximity as it tried to switch carriers.
This puppy? Not even a crackle.
I had a Fuze (Touch Pro) most recently (new ROM, Radio, etc) and it dropped calls quite frequently.
I think I may have had one dropped call so far but it was in my office which gets poor signal anyways. I had many more on my last phone but I'm not quite ready to say AT&T is so great. Maybe this phone has a better antenna.
Thanks for all the replies. I am trying to convert a few of my friends, but the general stigma is "Android Sux" They don't even know about the OS, all they know is their sister/cousin/friend has some crappy Backflip, so All android is crappy.
Oh well I will be plenty happy with my calls staying connected, while they complain about their dropped calls because of AT&T's network.
For me to leave the iPhone was exceptionally hard, because I have 3 Macs, and AppleTV, iPod Touch, and Airport Extreme. I have spent Thousands of dollars on apps from the app store along with Movies. I just had enough with the dropped calls.
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How many of you have had dropped calls on the Captivate?
I haven't had any, and I got my Captivate on the 16th. (2 days before launch from BestBuy).
I am coming from an iPhone 3G/3GS/4 and had many dropped calls.
What I am implying is that AT&T's network isn't totally crap (as most people suggest). I believe it is due to the iPhone that people think at&t's network is crap.
So the question is:
1. Does the Captivate have an exceptionally great antennea?
2. Has at&t network suddenly gotten better(since July 16th)?
3. The iphone 3G/3GS/4 have a horrible antennae?
4. Any combination of the above 3?
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I haven't had a single dropped call. Voice quality seems higher than on iphones. (Can't vouch for other androids)
I have had the captivate since day one, no drop calls, i would have had at least 2-3 by now with my old iphone 3g. I have been with AT&T/cingular in both New Orleans 8 years and San Diego 10 years the iphone was the worst followed by the 82** (Htc tilt). The captivate is one of the better phones.
I also haven't had any dropped call issues like I did with my old iPhones in the same places. My N1 has also been fantastic without dropping, so I'm more apt to blame poor design of the iphones
I've been with Cingular/AT&T for 18 years & moved to the Captivate from a Razr. My Razr was very good, but the Captivate is better. I'm happy to have switched to a smart phone & glad I waited for the Captivate.
Sorry, but I have to laugh at all you iPhone (iCrap) users complaining about dropped calls. Obviously, I'm not a fan of the iPhone - but, that's another story.
I have been with ATT/Cingular/ATT since 1993. My first, second, third, and fourth devices were all Nokias (3 & 4 were WM device which I customized by using XDA resources), 5th was a BB Curve (for only a few months as I didn't like it either and gave it to my wife when the G1 came out). I bought the G1 within weeks of it's release from Craigslist.
Except for device #2 I have NEVER had an issue with dropped calls - AND, I work patrol for a Sheriff's Office - so, I'm mostly in RURAL areas. I would receive/make/retain calls in areas that my co-workers had no signal at all. Many of them had iPhones and complained about dropping calls... I used to think they were somehow on T-Mobile's network (which used to be horrible in my area).
My wife never had dropped calls with her BB Curve.
My G1 and now the Captivate NEVER drop calls. As much fun was made of the G1 - it worked like a charm within the limitations of it's hardware (ram/rom/camera).
The device plays a HUGE role in the number of dropped calls. My second Nokia device was only kept for a short while b/c of that issue. The third and later devices had NO ISSUES at all with dropped calls. If there was ANY signal there was no problem.
I have had over 20 dropped calls in the two weeks I have had the phone. I don't know what the issue is. I have avoided all death grips that I have read about. I think I'll take it into the ATT store tomorrow to see what's going on since I seem to be the only one. Any other suggestions?
I haven't dropped a call yet, but I never dropped one with my iPhone either. I actually had dropped calls with my nokia phones though, which is surprising because generally I have good service with them.
I haven't had a dropped call yet, and I'm not anticipating many. I, like many others in this thread, have been with AT&T for the last 14+ years, and despite heavy phone usage, in all that time, I've probably had 30 dropped calls total, if that. I went through several incarnations of Nokias, then onto Motorolas, a Sony-Ericsson, back to Nokia, a Samsung Omnia, and now the Captivate.
There was a brief, month-long period where I had concurrent TMobile and AT&T accounts, during which I tested out the HTC HD2 (after waiting months for its release), and when I compared the signal of the TMo phone and the AT&T phone, it was no contest - AT&T won everywhere I took it. When I was on the California coast, TMobile had no signal, while AT&T had a full 5 bars. That was the clincher. I returned my beloved HD2 and dropped TMobile like a hot potato.
Maybe I've just gotten really lucky, but AT&T's network has been great for me. Yes, their customer service is ridiculously poor, but in terms of functionality, their network is as good as I could hope for. I, too, suspect that the people who complain about their calls being dropped are just on crappy devices. Either that, or I've just been uncommonly lucky the last decade and a half.
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I have had over 20 dropped calls in the two weeks I have had the phone. I don't know what the issue is. I have avoided all death grips that I have read about. I think I'll take it into the ATT store tomorrow to see what's going on since I seem to be the only one. Any other suggestions?
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I have the same problem only when the call goes over 2mins, it some how likes to auto update time and date, call get drop, time is updated.... looks like it was a radio error with switching bands between voice and data
uncheck the auto time and date updates and see if it fixes the problem
why do ATT have to molest every damn good phone
The only device I ever dropped calls on was my iPhine 3g, and I've been on AT&T since it was Cingular. Haven't dropped a single call since getting rid of it.
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Never had a dropped call.
Call quality may be decreased, but no dropped call here.
I have also been an AT&T/Cingular customer for over a decade. The service where I live has never been good, I'll say that. I got an iPhone 4 and could barely talk on it here without it dropping. My old 2.5G iPhone worked pretty well, with maybe a dropped call ever other day. My captivate is right in the middle. Better than the iPhone 4, but at least one dropped call a day.
I have had much better success with this phone than others with dropped calls but still do occasionally get them. Anyone know of a way to enable a notification sound that the call has ended?
Was on a call last week and kept talking for probably 30 seconds after it had dropped off.
They all are saying AT&T is evil, I'm crazy blah blah vampire emergency blah...
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE????
Seriously. All Cellular carriers in the US are evil. Just in different ways. Why all the AT&T hate? Where's the gotchas?
Are they paying for your phone or wireless bill?
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Are they paying for your phone or wireless bill?
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Ditto. Plenty of people have legitimate reasons to complain about AT&T (dropped calls, lack of coverage, etc) but plenty of people have never had a single issue with them. Personally I just switched to AT&T for the Captivate (formerly with T-Mobile) and I've been happy so far. I get at least the same if not better coverage and my bill is actually cheaper thanks to a 21% discount from my employer.
it's fashionable to hate at&t. If you listened to these people, at&t would have worse coverage than tmobile. Anyone who's ever owned both outside of a major metro area knows that's a joke.
AT&T issues are market-based and are not universal. If any of your "friends" are iPhone 4 users, their problems are universal.
i dont have any real complaints with service anymore (one perk of the iphone)
but i dont think ive had one single interaction with att that they didnt mess up (ex. adding a line and putting a messaging block on the whole account. wtf?)
I was one of those that had trouble with at&t. I had each iPhone generation, and all 3g versions would drop calls. Now I will say I worked for apple retail at the genius bar for this time period, and it was all to frequent in terms of customers complaining. I bought the hype that it was at&T's sucky network causing all the issues.
Then the iPhone 4 hit. I had one. Returned it due to lack of satisfaction with he fix for the search grip as well as the proximity sensor issue. I immediately went and got the captivate.
I haven't dropped a single call since. Not one. Even in areas that were guaranteed to drop on 3 successive generations of iPhone. I have yet to have any issue.
That tells me something.
That I will not go back. No matter what.
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id10terrordfw said:
I haven't dropped a single call since. Not one. Even in areas that were guaranteed to drop on 3 successive generations of iPhone. I have yet to have any issue.
That tells me something.
That I will not go back. No matter what.
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Same, my wife and I were disgusted with our iPhone 3Gs, both dropped calls and limited customization, and poor performance with the iOS 4 update. It was so bad we thought it was AT&T's network and were contemplating on switching carriers. I decided to try out the Captivate, and it's been awesome.
And your buddies are jealous, that's all
id10terrordfw said:
I was one of those that had trouble with at&t. I had each iPhone generation, and all 3g versions would drop calls. Now I will say I worked for apple retail at the genius bar for this time period, and it was all to frequent in terms of customers complaining. I bought the hype that it was at&T's sucky network causing all the issues.
Then the iPhone 4 hit. I had one. Returned it due to lack of satisfaction with he fix for the search grip as well as the proximity sensor issue. I immediately went and got the captivate.
I haven't dropped a single call since. Not one. Even in areas that were guaranteed to drop on 3 successive generations of iPhone. I have yet to have any issue.
That tells me something.
That I will not go back. No matter what.
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My experience is similar. I have had at&t for years.i never had a problem with them until I had an iphone. The three I had dropped calls constantly. Now I have the captivate and at&t is great again.
thanks all. You'll never get a die hard apple fanboi to admit the iphone problems are problems with the phone. Thanks for the positive stories
Yeah, when I had my first gen iPhone, I occasionally dropped calls and just generally had bad quality. I figured it was AT&T's infamous network. I almost switched carriers, but I was prepaid at that time and had built up nearly a 500 dollar balance on my account, so I didn't want to lose that. So, I gave the Blackberry Bold (9000) a try - turns out it was the iPhone all along. I got great reception and fantastic call quality on my Bold.
I haven't made many calls with my Captivate - frankly, the voice/phone portion of my cellphone is fairly low on my priorities - but while it doesn't really seem to quite be up to the level of my Bold, it's still far ahead of my iPhone.
Same story here.
Had a WinMo phone for years (HTC Hermes) then switched to iPhone, started dropping calls, and losing data. It wasn't too big, and at about the same time I moved into a basement apt. I chalked it up to all the concrete that I could not talk on the phone when home. We moved again, and on my commute to and from work there were 3 spots that would lose signal EVERY time. Calls would drop, Pandora would stop playing, etc. Then I got my HTC Aria, same commute, far fewer dropped calls, then my Captivate (day 30 of my Aria return window) and haven't dropped a call since on the commute. AT&T having network issues? I think not.
I am giddy at the chance of a Verizon iPhone, so all the people complaining about AT&T will see that the iPhone on any network sucks.
I've had at&t for years, because until recently it was all we had I'm my area that was any count at all. Recently Verizon has moved in, and I did consider switching because of hardware choices. But I waited it out, and decided to go ahead with my Captivate, and I'm loving it. My friends all have iPhones and so did I. I never had the problems that they seem to have, but I'm happier now anyway being away from the tyranny of Steve Jobs.
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i had to switch to at&t because of work. i do a lot of international travel and at&t's list of countries is about 5x bigger than any other carrier for reduced roaming rates. and GSM is more universal and i didn't want verizon's blackberry offerings.
i had minor issues with call drops, but that's because i'm usually in large metal/concrete airplane hangers.
so far though, no issues with captive. even with one bar, no call quality issues either in the states...or as of so far hong kong.
oh and my entire office but 2 others have iphones and i got nothing but flack for not getting one. glad i didn't
I have been with ATT since 1998 and the only issues I have ever had with dropped calls was with the following phones since the Cingular/ATT Merger: Nokia N-Gage QD, Motorola V551 *just close to my house*, Motorola V3 *close to my house and when the phone was at the end of its life*, Samsung Sync *bought it used of fleabay worst cell ever*, Nokia N55 *would drop in typical black hole areas*, Motorola Razr2 *POS never could get a good voice call on it no matter what area I was in*, Blackberry Curve 8300 *dropped calls in blackhole areas*, BB 8310 *same as 8300*, BB Bold 9000 Same as the previous BBs, and now the Captivate *same as the BB in terms of dropped calls which equals about 2 dropped calls in the past 5 weeks or so*...
Now funny thing when I talk to a couple of my friends who actually have the iPhone, they drop randomly and it is pretty funny where I dont have the issue with my Captivate. Even my friend who is also a snake breeder *boas, pythons and other snakes*, told me today he likes his iPhone 3G besides the dropping call issue and asked me how Android is treating me, I said I love it and not going back to BB...
HTH,
Charlie
Gunny, wtf Re you doing here in the ATT phone section? Shouldn't you be in the Hero section? >¦(
LOL
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LOL notasimpleway. Got tired of having an out of date phone and super slow EVDO.
I just got the Inspire 4G the other day at an HTC conference. (Work related)
For years I've used an iPhone for my primary device. I'm no stranger to Android. I've had a Nexus One and a Samsung Captivate. The inspire in the best android phone I have used yet.
The Captivate is an aweful phone. A GPS that works when it wants to, FoYo that never arrived....etc... I installed a custom ROM (Cognition) and it brought new life to the phone and was a better experience, but I am of the opinion that I shouldn't have to use custom ROMs to make the phone work the way it is supposed to or to have the latest software when it should have already been available. Who knows when FoYo does come out for the captivate if it will be any good or will it still be better to use a custom ROM. On the Inspire I feel as if I don't need to run a custom ROM because it is great the way it is.....so far.
Two issues I did notice with the Inspire that I have verified that others I know with the phone are having as well.
1) The call quality is horrible! It's very treblely and just sounds terrible.
2) The external speaker is definately not loud enough. That seems to be a trait of HTC phones and cheap, low quality speakers.
For example on point #2. I have my own customer ringtones and sound effects for text and emails, which are the same ones I used on my iPhone. I wear my phone in a leather pouch on my belt. I can hardly hear when I get a text or the phone is ringing. Thankfully I have it set to vibrate at the same time, and if I didn't feel it vibrate I would never know I am getting a text or a call. That is very annoying. Especially when it is worn on my belt, I should be able to hear it. I don't know if this can be fixed via a software upgrade or if it is just cheap parts.
On my iPhone, if my phone is downstairs and I am upstairs, I can clearly hear loudly when I get a text or call. The iPhone has a much better speaker.
The Inspire is a very fast phone as far as the OS goes. The internet is also faster, it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service. The battery life isn't that great though.
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
The Hot Spot feature works pretty good, although I just briefly played with it.
Well that's my brief opinion for the moment. The phone is really nice, but the external speaker volume issue might force me to go back to my iPhone for primary use and knock my Inspire back to secondary play phone.
Awesome, I can't wait.
hmmm i have read a few reviews that said call quality is awesome, Mobiletech review and infosync come to mind, maybe its just some handsets
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hmmm i have read a few reviews that said call quality is awesome, Mobiletech review and infosync come to mind, maybe its just some handsets
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I dunno, maybe they have hearing issues. But many people I've talked to that went to the same conference that I did that also got phones made the same comments I did. Bad call quality and dretful speaker volume.
Also on a a differnet note, I used to date a girl from Manapalan years ago. I would have done anything for her back in the day. Something about Jersey girls.
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I dunno, maybe they have hearing issues. But many people I've talked to that went to the same conference that I did that also got phones made the same comments I did. Bad call quality and dretful speaker volume.
Also on a a differnet note, I used to date a girl from Manapalan years ago. I would have done anything for her back in the day. Something about Jersey girls.
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really how old are you?? LOL small world!
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I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
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This model (Desire HD) never had a front camera... wasn't AT&T's doing.
I just cant decide if I wanna give up my i4 for this. I wanna buy outright but sometimes I just cant justify that price when I think of other things I could buy for that amount of money. The front facing camera doesnt bother me because I have had an i4 since launch and used it maybe 4 times. I just worry about size and the speaker volume. I know that overtime with roms that can be fixed so not so worried about that. My options now are to sell wait for someone to sell and the get a new itouch for the ios fix. Sorry but imo itunes just works for me, the only phone I've used as an audio device would be my iphone. I just really like android and flashing and always having the latest on it and have been back and forth since the g1. I just sometimes dont like all the time it takes away from life having to read up all the time or keep up with the latest. Anyways enough rambling just my thoughts.
cmstlist said:
This model (Desire HD) never had a front camera... wasn't AT&T's doing.
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The only time I've used my front camera is to see if there is food in my teeth, so I don't think I'll miss not having a front camera.
Great input. I have a Captivate running a custom ROM. It was trash til I did so. Now call quality, gps, speaker and camera are great. And bigger battery. It all works bit I miss Sense.
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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No worries on the low volume problem, TEST THIS ON YOUR DEVICES AND COMMENT PLEASE
An easy fix for the low external speaker volume is this app, created by the infamous Meltus from xda.
Its a must if indeed the speaker is low:
---->> http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-automod-jmiC.aspx
or
DSP Manager
---->>> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-apps-games/134633-dsp-manager-equalizer-android-2-2-a.html
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Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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Yes I definately think it's a better device. Sure the Captivate is a good device when using a custom rom, but I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't need to run a custom rom to make the device work the way it is ment to. Plus when you run a customer rom is just has the feel of being pieced together from various parts and not really a complete experience.
HTC sense does make a world of difference. It is more than just an overlay like Touchwiz or Launcher Pro...etc... I used to be a diehard pure stock android experience, but Sense won me over. It adds so much to the device.
But the two issues I originally mentioned are a problem though. The tinny call quality and the low external speaker volume are things to take into consideration. It's terrible when you can't even hear the phone ring when it's on your hip. So far I've missed calls and SMS if my phone is in one room of my house and I am in another, whereas I could hear my iPhone even if I am upstairs and my phone is downstairs.
Today I emailed our area HTC rep and told her the problems that I and others are having and she is passing the info up the ladder. I said to her that I find it odd that HTC's quality control didn't notice the crappy speaker on the device and that I couldn't recommend the phone to my customers at this time until I hear of a resolution to the problems.
So although I love the Inspire and think it's a very good phone, I would hold off buying it until there is a bug fix or something to the speaker problems. I might have to go back to my iPhone 4 for the time being until HTC fixes the phone.
Before anyone makes a decisions on buying it, you might want to wait until the Motorola Atrix comes and compare the two.
After spending a day with the Inspire I promptly ditched my iP4. I also have a Captivate running Cognition and it just gets destroyed by the Inspire. I haven't been able to test battery life, but I know what I'm in for in that department.
The Inspire is quite simply very fast. Ran Quadrant to compare to other phones I've had this year as well. My Captivate running Cognition gets about 1500, while the Inspire was around 1900 each time. I've never used a phone that blew through that benchmark so fast. Neocore got around 57fps so that's very solid as well. GPS connected quickly, but I only tested it outdoors as that's where I would generally use it. Speaker is a bit weak, but sound is pretty fantastic through headphones. YouTube video played smooth and looked amazing. It's a much better YouTube experience than the iP4 imo.
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it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service.
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Seriously? No carrier is using true 4g. HSPA+ is considered 4g now; Just look at T-Mobile.
Can anyone compare the speakers to a nexus one? Same question for battery life, granted it may be a little early for that.
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Can anyone compare the speakers to a nexus one? Same question for battery life, granted it may be a little early for that.
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I used to have a Nexus One last year, and always thought the external speaker was horrible on that also, but it was a bit louder than the Inspire.
Although I didn't think the call quality of the N1 was bad. The call quality is horrible on the Inspire, whether through the earpiece or the speaker phone.
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I just got the Inspire 4G the other day at an HTC conference. (Work related)
For years I've used an iPhone for my primary device. I'm no stranger to Android. I've had a Nexus One and a Samsung Captivate. The inspire in the best android phone I have used yet.
The Captivate is an aweful phone. A GPS that works when it wants to, FoYo that never arrived....etc... I installed a custom ROM (Cognition) and it brought new life to the phone and was a better experience, but I am of the opinion that I shouldn't have to use custom ROMs to make the phone work the way it is supposed to or to have the latest software when it should have already been available. Who knows when FoYo does come out for the captivate if it will be any good or will it still be better to use a custom ROM. On the Inspire I feel as if I don't need to run a custom ROM because it is great the way it is.....so far.
Two issues I did notice with the Inspire that I have verified that others I know with the phone are having as well.
1) The call quality is horrible! It's very treblely and just sounds terrible.
2) The external speaker is definately not loud enough. That seems to be a trait of HTC phones and cheap, low quality speakers.
For example on point #2. I have my own customer ringtones and sound effects for text and emails, which are the same ones I used on my iPhone. I wear my phone in a leather pouch on my belt. I can hardly hear when I get a text or the phone is ringing. Thankfully I have it set to vibrate at the same time, and if I didn't feel it vibrate I would never know I am getting a text or a call. That is very annoying. Especially when it is worn on my belt, I should be able to hear it. I don't know if this can be fixed via a software upgrade or if it is just cheap parts.
On my iPhone, if my phone is downstairs and I am upstairs, I can clearly hear loudly when I get a text or call. The iPhone has a much better speaker.
The Inspire is a very fast phone as far as the OS goes. The internet is also faster, it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service. The battery life isn't that great though.
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
The Hot Spot feature works pretty good, although I just briefly played with it.
Well that's my brief opinion for the moment. The phone is really nice, but the external speaker volume issue might force me to go back to my iPhone for primary use and knock my Inspire back to secondary play phone.
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Based on your experiences so far, how would you rank the Inspire 4G to the Motorola Atrix? I'm waiting to make up my mind on my next upgrade. The battery life and front facing camera are really hard for me to get past, but I'm not a major fan of Motoblur either (although I know the Tegra 2 processors should handle that ok).
Great write-ups guys, that's good information to hear. Concerning the speeds compared to other phones, remember that you're using a new phone and comparing it to other phones that are bogged down by applications and data files.
Back a few weeks ago I thought my captivate was fast Oced at 1.2. I rooted to install a newer version of the ROM, master cleaned it, and it was even faster stock than it was OCed before.
Exactly my worry. We've put all the work into the Captivate only to buy an inferior phone out of the box...
ekerbuddyeker said:
Great input. I have a Captivate running a custom ROM. It was trash til I did so. Now call quality, gps, speaker and camera are great. And bigger battery. It all works bit I miss Sense.
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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Depressing. Unlike many people, I value excellent call quality above being able to get a 5m gps fix in 10 seconds. The captivate does have the former going for it...
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I used to have a Nexus One last year, and always thought the external speaker was horrible on that also, but it was a bit louder than the Inspire.
Although I didn't think the call quality of the N1 was bad. The call quality is horrible on the Inspire, whether through the earpiece or the speaker phone.
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I've only made a couple of calls on mine, but they sounded just fine. Certainly not horrible.
It looks like every aspect on G2x is far superior than MT4, but one thing I still worry about is the calling quality.
Optimus T and Virgin don't have good call quality and the earpiece has some strange behavior, so this raises my concern. In addition, I'd like to know how is the speakerphone. It's poor on MT4, but speakerphone is exceptional on NS (this is a reason why I use NS more than MT4).
Now I'd like to know should I shell out $500 and get G2x and sell the "no defect" MT4?
I have both and the call quality is identical. The G2x beats the MT4G in all aspects.
djunio said:
I have both and the call quality is identical. The G2x beats the MT4G in all aspects.
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Agree! but i prefer built quality on MT4G, but G2X is beast on speed and we all know that!
The G2x has either equal or better build quality. Its just as solid as anything on the market.
I also have both and the build quality is great on the G2X. I never liked the buttons on the MyTouch 4G. I own the G1, BB9700, MyTouch 4G, NEXUS ONE and now the LG G2X, this is without a doubt the best device I every owned. I have always been a big fan of the Nexus One and use it every day. I tried Verizon and the Thunderbolt and after using it for about 5 days I found the LTE speeds were just fantastic but when it comes right down to practical use the web pages didn't download any faster then they did on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network. I was getting around 13,000 DL on Verizon and about 5200 DL on T-Mobile and as I said the speeds don't make the user experience much different besides the lousy battery life on the Thunderbolt. I gave the Thunderbolt back and went back to the Nexus One. I like the ability to change sim cards on a daily basis and change my phones, can't do that on Verizon. Sorry for the ranting on but I just think if you are in a T-Mobile area there is no better Carrier to be with. Best plans, prices and the speeds are pretty darn fast.
I agree Thunderbolt is nice but even compared to my Nexus S, running on 3G, website pages were almost identical. The question for me is whether to get the G2X coming from a Nexus S. This is a good problem to have, either way its a win win
mingkee said:
It looks like every aspect on G2x is far superior than MT4, but one thing I still worry about is the calling quality.
Optimus T and Virgin don't have good call quality and the earpiece has some strange behavior, so this raises my concern. In addition, I'd like to know how is the speakerphone. It's poor on MT4, but speakerphone is exceptional on NS (this is a reason why I use NS more than MT4).
Now I'd like to know should I shell out $500 and get G2x and sell the "no defect" MT4?
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I have a 3 week old MyTouch that I just wiped clean (minus gfree root) that I plan on selling since I got my G2x. I was skeptical at first because I love my MyTouch 4g. I really thought that I'd end up selling the G2x, and staying with my MyTouch, but within two hours of getting the G2x, I had changed my mind.
The speaker phone is crystal clear. The speakers sound good when playing games, or video. If you have anymore questions, let me know.
WorldWide60 said:
I have a 3 week old MyTouch that I just wiped clean (minus gfree root) that I plan on selling since I got my G2x. I was skeptical at first because I love my MyTouch 4g. I really thought that I'd end up selling the G2x, and staying with my MyTouch, but within two hours of getting the G2x, I had changed my mind.
The speaker phone is crystal clear. The speakers sound good when playing games, or video. If you have anymore questions, let me know.
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How's the call quality? Do you use BT, if so, any connections problems with it.
jlevy73 said:
How's the call quality? Do you use BT, if so, any connections problems with it.
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No I don't use BT, and the call quality is fine. Haven't had a dropped call.
oh yea, mine will be here today when I get off work.
How is the microphone quality. I've noticed the noise cancellation features of the Nexus One were not as well incorporated into the MT4G and it struggles with using Voice compared to my N1. How is the G2x? I'll find out myself soon enough.
I am so psyched to get this phone. Today I sold my G1 on Craigslist and bought an Optimus T for my new "backup" device. Boy that thing is faster than the droid. Anyway, my only problem will be that I was able to treat my G1 and now this Optimus like **** and not care. I'm going to baby this G2x so much, I prob wont even take it to work with me for the first week! lol
I may be getting rid of my g2 for the g2x. Radio Shack will give me $160 for my g2 to put towards the g2x at $499 retail price. Wonder when they will get some in stock?
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oh yea, mine will be here today when I get off work.
How is the microphone quality. I've noticed the noise cancellation features of the Nexus One were not as well incorporated into the MT4G and it struggles with using Voice compared to my N1. How is the G2x? I'll find out myself soon enough.
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it doesnt have noise cancellation but the call quality is great
I ordered 4 galaxy S3's for my family plan from amazonwireless for the $99 deal 2 weeks ago. Right away we noticed all of them have extremely poor call quality compared to our previous phones. I live in a major city with good reception so it doesn't make sense. It literally sounds like we are standing next to a jet engine while driving and people that we are calling are constantly complaining. I turned off the noise cancellation and made sure the microphones weren't covered by the cases but no improvments. Anyone else experiencing louder than usual background noise and raspy/choppy voice quality? Any suggestions on fixes? I'm beginning to suspect that amazon/samsung dumped a bunch of defective units for the $99 deal they had.
"Poor" may be relative, but what kind of phones did you have previously?
Call quality on our two Galaxy S III phones have been very good, I feel. At least, it sounds better than comparable iPhone 4s and other Androids we've owned, but we've had a few minor incidents of borked signal (or something) with Verizon or the phone(s) that required a redial to correct since receiving them from pre-order.
Perhaps consider use of a Voice Recorder or memo function on the new and old phones, generating sound files you can compare on a single piece of equipment to sort of test the microphone. This assumes each voice recording app use similar specifications for sampling, etc. but might help pinpoint the mic vs other causes of what you hear.
- ooofest
We all had the epic 4g touch (galaxy II) on sprint before. The problem is so bad that practically everyone I've called is reporting it to me and my family members are having the same experience. I can hear it first hand when we call each other. My wife sounds like a raspy 90 year old grandmother. If we are in any location other than a completely silent room the call is unbearable. It's like the microphone sensitivity is way to high. Definitely not an isolated incident. It's every call.
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We all had the epic 4g touch (galaxy II) on sprint before. The problem is so bad that practically everyone I've called is reporting it to me and my family members are having the same experience. I can hear it first hand when we call each other. My wife sounds like a raspy 90 year old grandmother. If we are in any location other than a completely silent room the call is unbearable. It's like the microphone sensitivity is way to high. Definitely not an isolated incident. It's every call.
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I don't have this issue at all either. My friend has a S3 and we talk all the time when we are driving with the windows part down and not 1 complaint.
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I don't have this issue at all either. My friend has a S3 and we talk all the time when we are driving with the windows part down and not 1 complaint.
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Yep looks like were going to have to return the phones for new ones. Ours are obviously defective units. Problem is amazonwireless makes you go 4-6 days without a phone to exchange and I have no phone to temporarily switch to. Never buying from them again.
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Yep looks like were going to have to return the phones for new ones. Ours are obviously defective units. Problem is amazonwireless makes you go 4-6 days without a phone to exchange and I have no phone to temporarily switch to. Never buying from them again.
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Sorry to hear, though it seems so odd that all four phones would have this same problem if it was a phone hardware defect. One might expect that one or two phones have a serious issue, but all four having the exact same defect seems very strange.
Something must be common to them all, I guess: each was categorized as having the same problems for reconditioning and sat in a "fixed" pile to send out, they were all made during the same (bad) run in original manufacturing, they are all roaming due to a common activation issue, the local network is not healthy for them for some reason or perhaps some unique software is running that interferes with the voice.
I attached two screenshots from my Settings -> About submenu for Verizon . . . do yours look similar?
If you made a local voice recording, playback sounds just as bad as over the phone?
Are you now on Verizon? I guess that's why you're posting here, but just checking my assumption. If so, do you have a local Verizon store in which you can test yours vs one of their store models to ensure this isn't something inherent to the way this model phone works with their local network? It sounds like you came from Sprint, so I wonder if there's a fundamental problem with that Verizon location, for some strange reason.
- ooofest