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When, and what phone!? Wait for 2010?

Isn't it a dilemma to buy a phone now. Constant fear of a better version coming out within a couple of months...
So far, a lot of eyes are on the n900 and the HD2. I am not too much of a fan of the Droid - and the Xperia 10 - well that still has potential.
But then we are expecting some Nvidia Tegra 2 based mobile phones as well - not only promising very good graphics performance for gaming - but good battery life.
Then there is always, albeit quite far off - the chance apple decide to do a decent update to the 3GS (I mean, last 2 years, have only been updates to the 3G, so its about time they do something great this year right? Especially with the huge amount of new technology available).
I am stumped, I mean, I really don't know what to do. Buy the HD2, or the N900 - or wait it out for the new phones Q1 2010, or wait Q2/3 2010.
I am looking for, a laptop replacement to be honest - something I can do my browsing and so fourth on comfortably - go on websites like mini clip without hassle - maybe have good game playability. Also, would like to use it for things like BBC iplayer etc - good video recording/camera - so in a way - it seems n900 seems suitable - but then what knocks you back is that it only has a 600 mhz processor, compared to the 1GHZ processors being available - as well as a couple of other shortcomings. Every phone seems to be missing some things - but I guess no one can expect a perfect phone . Do you think, if I wait for 6 months, I could be looking at a very decent laptop replacing phone? I am, at the moment, worried about the lack of battery life on these upcoming ones - which I hope will be amended in the near future?
I guess I am quite optimistic about the Nvidia Tegra 2 based phone - in fact I am just excited at what the possibilities will be - coming early 2010 - but at the same time - frustration - as everything seems to be getting updated really quickly...
So, what about you guys?

Welcome to forums
Well you can wait forever for the "perfect" device or decide that you can't wait any longer and buy one from the existent ones.
Also will depend on how much $ you wanna spent.
From the actual ones I can recommend:
The best with hardware keyboard: Touch Pro 2
The best with no hardware kb: HD2
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

Welcome to HTC XDA! As orb said, the HD2 & TP2 are the tops now...see their forum sections for detailed info on them...

What is the opinions of xda forumers on the n900? Potentially it could be huge?
One thing that annoys me about HD2 is - that it is too much makeup on 6.5 - if you get my drift? It is like it is trying to be something its not - while other OS's - seem "proper", I know it all sounds weird - I really don't know how to put it. It is like 6.5 has just had a haircut, beard trim etc to try to compete with the other OS's in terms of UI/touch screen compatibility.

Nokia perhaps is a good device but it has EDIT: maemo on it which I don´t really like...
I´ll recommend you an HTC WM device

orb3000 said:
Nokia perhaps is a good device but it has symbian on it which I don´t really like...
I´ll recommend you an HTC WM device
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n900 has Maemo 5 OS.

lolol
@ ma2k5
You wont get any unbiased info from these chaps....
They cant see past the HTC logo......I think Obr3000 gets paid to post sometimes, just posts.
Hi - I buy HTc
Htc
Htc
lolol - I jest - they are all good guys....
Its got worse here over last few years (no I am joking)
Seriously
Touch Pro 2 is a good device for web browsing when using Opera 9.5+ but it is in NO way a next gen device.
But - Opera 10 is now out and available on S60 V5 platform - which is already running on new hardware on devices from samsung and sony... his is a better browsing experience at the moment, it runs OMAP 3 platform with THAT 600MHZ processor you were talking about.
I have a Touch pro 2 and an OMnia HD - side by side the OMnia is faster and smoother when comparing opera builds. Albeit at a lower resolution.....
My touch pro 2 is not quite as good as I expected it to be.
My last HTC device - HTC advantage - bought what, 3 years ago seems to run at a similar pace to this NEW Touch pro 2. Versatile and good to hack but such shabby build, camera sucks cattle, not enough buttons until you open it....
BUT the support from THIS site means that the device is AMAZING!!!!
If it wasnt for XDA dev - the touch pro 2 would just not be viable for me.
The thing to keep in Mind is that Mhz means nothing nowdays.
My Core2Duo on my PC is 2.4 Ghz per core - but each core will still outperform my old P4 3 ghz chip/// as all the buses that transfer the data are many times faster on newer platforms, plus extra tech makes the comparison even less relevant.
What I am saying here is that the 1ghz qualcomm chipies aint going to worry OMAP 3 chips running at 600 + Mhz, performance will be similar.....
Personally, as an owner of many HTC devices AND Nokia AND Samsung Omnia HD if I had the choice now, I would go with the N900 as its new and I think its going to be a killer mature platform
Then again - if I didnt have this touch pro 2 - that can do virtually EVERYTHING I want it to - spotify last fm web ftp full network access - VNC - remote desktop Logme in, Web video downloader, BBC iplayer - My player supporting Hulu channel 4 on demand,
ZENONIA RPG BLISS!!! + all social networking u can do. - Then more than likely I would go for the touch pro 2 again - then look on enviously at the N900.....
The main thing is that I end up carrying another phone for camera and music as this touch pro seems to destroy connectors that convert to 3.5 and its pointless taking shots with it....
I say get a cheaper old Touch pro 1 for the time being (same Hardware as Touch pro 2 just no huge screen) - second hand for what £150 or something......then get a N900 on contract with data connection when your up for upgrade probably for very little $$
Then you will be in tech bliss

ma2k5 said:
n900 has Maemo 5 OS.
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Thanks for that correction
Anyway my thinking is the same, I´ll stay with WM

The only WM phone I am waiting right now is clamshell type with a powerful processor. I don't care who will make it first, HTC, Sony, Samsung, etc...

[Ques] Best WinMo phone in $300-$350 range

Hey guys,
I'm currently having HTC Gene and running it on a custom WM 6.5 with Manila rom all picked up from here.... Learned a lot from here esp how to cook add packages to roms etc etc..... even using Android on my Gene... In short realised the power of "Windows Mobile".
Gene is just a OMAP850 200Mhz processor with 128 ROM and 64 RAM.... so kinda low on specs... coz when it comes to running apps like opera 10 and manila running in background..... so i'll be buying a new phone...
So i'm askin u all experts with all the experience which one should I buy?? I would have gone for HTC HD or PRO2 but they are out of my budget.. ie $300-$350 (Rs. 14,000 - 15,500). I know I can't expect a speedster there but which one will give me best value for money ???
And my Indians friends here.... May b u might know better abouy our market conditions.....
Thanks in adv....
Luv u guys...

shantanuthatte said:
Hey guys,
I'm currently having HTC Gene and running it on a custom WM 6.5 with Manila rom all picked up from here.... Learned a lot from here esp how to cook add packages to roms etc etc..... even using Android on my Gene... In short realised the power of "Windows Mobile".
Gene is just a OMAP850 200Mhz processor with 128 ROM and 64 RAM.... so kinda low on specs... coz when it comes to running apps like opera 10 and manila running in background..... so i'll be buying a new phone...
So i'm askin u all experts with all the experience which one should I buy?? I would have gone for HTC HD or PRO2 but they are out of my budget.. ie $300-$350 (Rs. 14,000 - 15,500). I know I can't expect a speedster there but which one will give me best value for money ???
And my Indians friends here.... May b u might know better abouy our market conditions.....
Thanks in adv....
Luv u guys...
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Hello
According to me right now in the market in this range the best value for money is the htc’s touch which is around 14 to 15K in Bombay but its same specifications like your Gene except doubled RAM/ROM.
If I were you I would go for HTC touch 3G, but still for this you need to extend your funds by 3 or 4thsd.
cheers!

i basicly want a higher processor & memory... so which is the cheapest available....???

Perhaps would be easier to know how much you want to spend on a device?
And after that recommendations can come.
have a look on marketplace to have an idea of the prices.
Good luck,

Take a look at Ebay for different htc devices and prices!

for the price u can't really go wrong with Diamond or Touch Pro, I've seen both on ebay for less than $200. I say save ur money for a month or two and pick up TouchPro2 or Diamond2. U get the support of this site and get a bunch of Cool ROMS. Its best to save ur money up to get something more contemporary.

If you wanna go cheap, get a HTC Touch Viva. Pretty good for it's price:
http://cgi.ebay.in/NEW-HTC-Touch-VI...ItemQQptZIN_Mobile_Phones?hash=item20ae323b28

cyanide911 said:
If you wanna go cheap, get a HTC Touch Viva. Pretty good for it's price:
http://cgi.ebay.in/NEW-HTC-Touch-VI...ItemQQptZIN_Mobile_Phones?hash=item20ae323b28
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or how about acer e101 ??? Acer-e-101-windows-6-5-mobile-phone???? it has a Qualcomm MSM 7225 528 MHz processor with 256MB RAM, 512MB ROM?????

Nexus One ROM Development Request

It would be really nice to have some devs working on a Nexus One ROM. That phone is really nice. There is already a custom ROM so i guess we can start from there and just modifying the hell out of it to make it fit on the HERO[CDMA].

Link(s)
Here is a link to the first Nexus One ROM... By: MODACO!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614186
Here is the link to the Nexus One forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=556

Great thread to start. I would like to see the nexus rom on the hero. I like those live wallpapers. Maybe one day we could have a live wallpaper based on the weather like the HD2.

david279 said:
Great thread to start. I would like to see the nexus rom on the hero. I like those live wallpapers. Maybe one day we could have a live wallpaper based on the weather like the HD2.
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You do know the Hero has a 512MHz CPU, while the Nexus One & the HD2 have a 1GHz Snapdragon. The Hero only has 256mb of RAM, while the Nexus ONe & HD2 have 512mb of RAM. also the Nexus One's GPU is leaps & bounds more powerful than the one in the Hero. So the likelihood of the Hero getting live wallpapers & actually basic functionality at the same time is slim to none.

gu1dry said:
You do know the Hero has a 512MHz CPU, while the Nexus One & the HD2 have a 1GHz Snapdragon. The Hero only has 256mb of RAM, while the Nexus ONe & HD2 have 512mb of RAM. also the Nexus One's GPU is leaps & bounds more powerful than the one in the Hero. So the likelihood of the Hero getting live wallpapers & actually basic functionality at the same time is slim to none.
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QFT: Remember the Hero had the animated widgets removed from sense because of the lag the animations created. Animated wallpaper and such, while possible doesn't seem very practical for the time being on our devices.

gu1dry said:
You do know the Hero has a 512MHz CPU, while the Nexus One & the HD2 have a 1GHz Snapdragon. The Hero only has 256mb of RAM, while the Nexus ONe & HD2 have 512mb of RAM. also the Nexus One's GPU is leaps & bounds more powerful than the one in the Hero. So the likelihood of the Hero getting live wallpapers & actually basic functionality at the same time is slim to none.
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Actually, the Hero has 288MB ram but who's counting
Seriously, before we get this we need a working .29 kernel otherwise we wouldnt be able to get the damn thing to boot. And if we did we would have the same trouble as we are having with 2.0 (camera issues, sync issues, etc). We will get to the fun stuff guys. Trust me. But before we focus on this stuff let's let the devs do the hard work and however we can help, let's help. Once we get the kernel then we get to the fun stuff.
Also, as for the CPU, it is *theoretically* possible to overclock this processor. The Dream was underclocked to 384Mhz and it ran a lot faster when overclocked to the standard 528Mhz. If we could actually push this thing to 768Mhz it could be really nice but like I said. That's theoretical. And we still have the GPU issue as well.

And the HD2 doesn't have 512 megs of RAM if I remember correctly. I think it only has about half that, but same processor is right.

deadonarivalry said:
And the HD2 doesn't have 512 megs of RAM if I remember correctly. I think it only has about half that, but same processor is right.
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It has 488mb of RAM to be precise.

Not that I know half as much as you guys do, but when I had my touch pro 2 I had a custom windows 6.5 rom that was ported from the HD2 with the same live wallpapers based on the weather. For example when the weather widget displayed cloudy weather clouds would move across the screen. I remember reading that the touchpro 2 has a qualcomm 528 mhz processor like that in our heros. The tp2 had no lag at all and the animations were quick and detailed so I am just having a hard time seeing why the hero cant handle this, is it a difference with the way android and win mobile handle this type of stuff?

Phone to choose?

Guys. I want to have a new used phone..
What to choose?
Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire HD..
Or any phone used to about 300€

go for galaxy s i9000 ... but then galaxy s feels slower too these days! i recommend galaxy s II or motorola atrix

to save repeating myself, see this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17487969&postcount=9

So what to choose?.. I don´t want HD2 as far as Adreno 200 is too slow

BlackRainX said:
So what to choose?.. I don´t want HD2 as far as Adreno 200 is too slow
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??[in bold] and the hd2 is certainly not too slow, it runs mango as fast as a native device and bliss sense 3.5 works sweetly on there.
Its a cheap device too running it at £150 max for a good second hand device.
Up to you

I want Desire HD. I want Android on it not WP7. Also Sense 3.0.
Adreno 200 = Graphics Chip

help me out to buy a good phone?

hey all i am planning to buy a new android phone, and my history is a wildfire(cm7.1) which i sold, and i am currently owning an htc hd7( with xboxmod rom). and i am not that much happy with windows 7 phone( and cant find any android rom for it).
so.......
well i am planning to sell hd7 and buy an android phone.
i am confused with a lot of android phones around, so i decided to ask you people.
my specifations are..
1) hdpi screen 800*480
2) 1 or 1.2 ghz chipset( qualacom or tegra??) with a min 512 mb ram
3)good gpu,( i dont play that much, but like to make apps and graphics faster)
4) blue tooth 2 or 2.1 with a2dp.
5)some internal memory( 512mb - 2gb range) and mor than 8gb external micro sd support.
6) wifi b/g/(if i can get then n too)
7) good hsdpa speed( i mean 3g)
8)and all sensors needed for android device( we can omit gyro)
9) 5mp cam with 720p video rec( i have sonyericsson c905 for photo, lol 8mp cybershot phone).
10) a good battery life( like 4-5 hours calling/browsing in 2g or 3g, 5-8 hrs video/audio playback, and i really care about audio quality through headphones, it needs to be good)
these are my hardware spec, now my software spec are..
1) i should be able to load honeycomb( if a rom is available for the device), and may be upto icecream sandwich( little overkill??)
2) easily bootloader unlockable and rootable( i dont want to pay for it)
3) i need the best roms to be loaded into it( like cm, miui, etc and i never care for stock roms, as we can flash anything to it.)
4) multi bootable( if i get some thing like hd2 or so??, ) well its not a need, but if i can have it, then i am ok.
i like to have a htc( top priority), sonyericsson, or samsung device. well probably a phone with top spec in a middle class budget ( some thing that cost like htc desire S.). nop i am not going after latest workstations with tegra 2 cpu 1.2 or 1.4 ghz. which costs a lot money
what are your options?? does it worth to by the "old legend" HTC HD2? or you have better options?

Which problem is with HD7 ??

I'd recommend the Galaxy S II, it meets the majority of your requirements and should get an ICS official update soon

Galaxy S II my man. Everything you need. It will be with T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T.
1. 2.3 Gingerbread OS, up-gradable to ISC
2. 4.3 Super AMOLED screen with 1080p recording
3. 1.2GHz dual-core
4. 18 hr talk time battery
5. 1Gb Ram, 32Gb Internal memory with up to 32Gb memory slot
and more...
Click the thank you button and show me some love and that I helped.
Good luck

all about s2.. but dudes i am personaly an htc fan, though i also accept sonyericsson. but not thatmuch used with samsung.. coz, in the hardware respect, i have seen that htc have much more classy finish and are quite problem free.. also samsung is a newer in android / smartphone market, where as htc has proven their lagency in smatphone market. so pls pick an htc device. what about dezire hd?

I would suggest the HTC EVO 3D or the HTC sensation XL all the way....
If you want to save some money, then I would go for the Desire S.

showlyshah said:
all about s2.. but dudes i am personaly an htc fan, though i also accept sonyericsson. but not thatmuch used with samsung.. coz, in the hardware respect, i have seen that htc have much more classy finish and are quite problem free.. also samsung is a newer in android / smartphone market, where as htc has proven their lagency in smatphone market. so pls pick an htc device. what about dezire hd?
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Oh! Ok, I also I like the HTC's android devices. The latest and fastest HTC are.
1. HTC Rezound (Verizon)
2. HTC Vivid (AT&T)
3. HTC Amaze (T-mobile)
4. HTC Evo Design (Sprint)
These are the latest and fastest with alot of memory HTC phones.

Take the Galaxy S 2 or the Galaxy Nexus. For a cheap and good for modding take the galaxy si9000
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