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Hero or the Backflip

Hi,
I am new to this forum.
I have joined because I have many questions to ask haha.
I'm currently looking to buy a new cellphone.
Right now I am looking at the HTC Hero or the Moto Backflip, but I am also open to suggestions.
What I'm looking for is a solid phone that would last me a good 2-3 years, with a touchscreen and wifi are musts.
I have heard that Android is probably the best OS out there, so i would highly prefer it.
A qwerty keyboard would be nice since i like to use MSN on it. However, it's not a must have.
What i usually do on the phone is just browsing some web pages, youtube, msn, and facebook using wifi.
I do not want a data plan that is why I am looking to buy the phone unlocked on ebay.
My maximum budget is 400 dollars.
Now my question is,
I heard that the hero is a great cellphone, and I am willing to pay an extra 100$ over the backflip's price to get it if it is indeed a great phone.
Would you guys suggest me get the hero? or to get the backflip that has a qwerty keyboard? I have heard that the backflip will have android 2.1 on it, is the update out already??
Or if you guys can suggest another good phone that would be great too!
The price on ebay:
$400 for hero
$300 for Backflip

Please give me some suggestions!
I have read in another thread someone said the Hero is outdated already???
Hasn't it only been out for about half a year only?
If it is outdated, what phone should I go for that is within my price range??
thanks

Hero 100%. Better design, HTC, support, not crippled, gorgeous looking, the list goes on. The backflip has no support from here, and personally I think it's basically the GSM version of the devour. Ugly, boring, no support, and you never see em'

Please get neither if you are willing to spend 400. Both phones are a bit outdated and will have a hard time holding up 2-3 years. Get a nexus one or a Droid (milestone ) for that price
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greengoldmello said:
Please get neither if you are willing to spend 400. Both phones are a bit outdated and will have a hard time holding up 2-3 years. Get a nexus one or a Droid (milestone ) for that price
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Thanks for your opinion!
I found that the milestone might be a good option since it's within my price range and has a physicial keyboard.
The $600 nexus ones on ebay are a bit beyond what I am willing to spend haha.
So will the Motorola Milestone be the best choice if I have $400?
How's the processor??

Motorola Milestone is an ok choice, but you should try it out first. I would rather stay with HTC devices.

What HTC device would you recommend me to get then ?

Hey, so I'm looking into buying a new phone and the now I'm down to the hero and the backflip. I have never had an android phone before so the phone I decide on can't be too complicated. I'm 14 and I text a lot so the phone has to be able to type easily and fast. Please give me advice if you have experience with one or both of these phones.

Is there any other advices?
I am buying my new handset soon!

+1 for the n1 as already suggested above. You can also look at the HTC Aria or Samsung Captivate.

Unfortunately the Nexus one and the other ones you suggested are somewhat beyond my price range $400 is really my maximum. Unless I can get a used one somewhere ...

As it is one of your original options, I will give my opinion on it : The hTC Hero
Had one of these for a while (by my standards) for now, and its a pretty solid device. Okay, it isn't the fastest processor, and it has likely recieved its last official rom, but i love it
Have just got Éclair running on it, and there are noticeable differences since android 1.5, although no live wallpapers (not that i see this as much of a loss, as I don't tend to just sit and stare at my home screen, i try to use the phone)
There are plenty of apps for it, plenty of custom roms, and a sizeable (albeit not the biggest) user base on xda.
The build quality is pretty decent - it has withstanded my daughter standing, jumping, chewing, and dribbling all over it, so it has passed that test for me.
In my opinion, the downside is the camera - there is no flash. But even then, it is not the worst camera I have had on a phone.
Hope that helps

If you are on ATT and you have $400 you should go with the HTC Aria you can get it off contract for $350. Even though its only a mid level phone it is a much better and newer phone then the Hero and the Backflip.

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Unfortunately the Nexus one and the other ones you suggested are somewhat beyond my price range $400 is really my maximum. Unless I can get a used one somewhere ...
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you can find a nexus one around here for around $400..and you can buy the unlocked/off-contract HTC Aria and Samsung Captivate for $350 each.

[Q] Which phone should I buy?

Well I have used phones like HTC G1 & G2, they were good phones but a little less performing. Which is a good Android phone right now that has pretty high specs.
I am looking to spend upto £250/$500 (for a used phones). And I am looking for a smooth running phone like good graphic ability and stuff, so hit away...

HTC Desire HD!

Desire HD or the upcoming motorola atrix? But you'll have to rise your limits a bit.
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Thanks guys, looked up the Desire HD, looks kinda expensive =/. Motorola Atrix, how much are we looking at?

Well off contract it might be cheaper since its moto. Id say around 550<600. Not bad nowadays.
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A few questions you should make your self:
What operating system you prefer?
WP7-WM-Android-Rest
Keyboard or not?
Size?
Said that and based on your 1st post I would consider the HTD Desire Z

orb3000 said:
A few questions you should make your self:
What operating system you prefer?
WP7-WM-Android-Rest
Keyboard or not?
Size?
Said that and based on your 1st post I would consider the HTD Desire Z
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Wise man speaking. Or G2! Amazing piece of phones
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I'm kind of disappointed about HTC. They making 10 new android phones per quarter.
Mytouch 4G looks cheap to me. G2 nothing new, except the keyboard. I bet there would be G3 soon, or some other kind of phone better than G2.
I think HTC should slow down a bit and create a Master phone that would kick ass of all phones around.
Samsung - I don't feel confident with them. Had a lot of troubles in the past with their cell phones. A friend owns Galaxy S, which glitchis like hell (could be just a bad phone though).
Motorola - Maybe, but issue with Cliq update and Motoblur make me reconsider the choice.
There are new LGs comming soon. With Tegra 2 processor. I had no experience with LGs at all. Lets wait and see how it will go.
PS: Just personal point of view. I too want to buy a phone, but I keep telling myself to wait a bit longer to see what it will be like in a month.

Yeah true, I personally only like HTC.
Well lets see, checklist:
Android
Keyboard if possible then better but not needed
Minimum display size 3"
I just hate windows mobile, just never liked it.
Need to check out the desire Z now.

[Q] which phone shall I buy ?

I need an unlocked phone
Thing iss my budget is 350
Maximum
I was thinking of getting a x10 used
or just get a samsung s.
Whats your opinion?
Thanks. Andriod only though. can you give me other choices ?
Thank you.

If you like messing around with your phone (Flashing, tweaking, modding, etc.) and the T-MOUS HD2 works in your area for 3G, go with that.
Otherwise, a used Nexus One or HTC Desire I'd say... The X10 isn't what it's cracked up to be.

Who is your carrier and in what country?

i don't like samsung ,because my sister have one , voice of it very low

Well I can start by saying there is a huge difference between a nexus s and a x10. They both suck. The nexus s is a Samsung and it's already falling behind many android phones about to be released, nexus s is much better than the Sony tho. I olwould wait a month or so and you can get a dual core. They are on the way.
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Optimus T X2

Shop around. Keep your options open. Plenty of phones out there that are better than the x10 Sam S. Check Craigslist, ask your friends, etc. You can get a good deal for 350.

Desire Z/G2 is another option you might want to consider.

I bought my new desire hd a week ago and its amazing...highly recomended!

i think samsung galaxy s is the best at the moment

[Q] Best Android Smart Phone

Hi all, I just wanted to post a quick question. I'm looking to upgrade from my sad Kyocera Zio M6000 to a top of the line, best in the market, Android smart phone. I thought I was going to get the HTC Thunderbolt until I spoke with my sister who works for Verizon and she said to hold off because it's having issues right now with switching from 3G to 4G. So I wanted to check here and see what you all think right now is the best, top of the line android smart phone out there. The most powerful, can handle -ANY- games out on the market, can record HD video, has 2 way camera, all the bells and whistles and is going to last me liekly years before I even think about getting a new one. I made a mistake getting my Zio and I've been regretting it for 10 months now and I don't want to make that mistake again. I plan to play game son it, watch movies,.. everything on it .. I appreciate all your responses and thank you for your time! ")
-Seabhac

Samsung Galaxy S 2.

there are loads of good phone out there, but it depends on what you want to do with it, as lot of people root there phone and put custom roms on there.
if i was you i would wait for something like the HTC Pyramid or if you really want a android handset then go for the Samsung Galaxy S 2, but it is upto you mate.

Best Android phone in the market: The one YOU can wait for.
Right now, Galaxy II.
Soon, stay tuned.

If playing games is important to you, though not the best, you should be getting the "Playstation Certified" Xperia Play that opens you up to those Playstation titles on top of the normal Android ones, and you get a near PSP controller that you don't get anywhere else.

Google Nexus S i think

if you can, wait for the Nexus 3

ok maybe I should have qualified this with 1 other thing, a phone I can order service for and setup this week or next. I like the idea of the Galaxy S2, but last I looked it's not out till the fall and I need to replace mine right now lol.

LG p990 i think :O

for me there is no better idea than my desire at the moment

seabhac said:
ok maybe I should have qualified this with 1 other thing, a phone I can order service for and setup this week or next. I like the idea of the Galaxy S2, but last I looked it's not out till the fall and I need to replace mine right now lol.
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I've got one here on my desk, its out in the UK and has been for a couple of weeks..... you might also want to qualify with your country? Guessing your American/Canadian?

SGS II or LG Optimus 2X Speed
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I rather enjoy my Samsung Fascinate; although I did have to manually hack in Android 2.2...

My Desire HD, I think!

why dont u go for honeycomb tabs

HTC Desire HD !!
Is he best smartphone this time !

What are everyone's opinions of the HTC Thunderbolt? I keep considering that one as well due to the fact it seems to be the top of the line right now from Verizon. And yes Monty, I am in the US.

Heard lots of good things about the thunderbolt and it has some pretty great dev support. If I could pick any Verizon phone right now the thunderbolt would be it.
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Thunderbolt FTW!!!!! The dev Support on this beast is amazing
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Galaxy Gio
Well I have this one, more because of size and weight than anything else. Of course all those 4 inch 800x480 + displays and dual cores are better but are also bigger, and tend to drain battery faster.
Anyway I would love to have something in the same size as the Gio but with the "power" of Galaxy SII

[Q] What would you recomend?

What smart phone would you guys recomend to use with straight talks new byod program using one of their att sims? I'm leaning towards the HTC aria but i'm open to suggestions as I have a budget of around 150. I would prefer an android based device, but am open in that area also.
Thanks in advance!
Gamma

I'd get something with a bigger screen, I used the inspire for a while on straight talk before I upgraded to the vivid.

I've had an HTC Incredible before with a 3.7 inch screen and that was about perfect for me i do have rather large hands but i dont know if there are very many within my price range that big. I have found a huawei Impulse 4G for 130 with a 3.8" screen but there are practically no updates for it and well i would like to install a custom rom maybe CN7.

what about iPhone 4s

ahmedmila17 said:
what about iPhone 4s
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not with a budget of $150

gahhhhh apple it burns nooooooo lol

Android will always eat apples
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yup haha i settled this and ordered a huawei impulse 4g on ebay brand new for $130 i think i got a decent deal

Sounds like a good deal to me! Congrats
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well thankie will let ya'll know how it works out for me

Ha, I was going to post a topic asking about the exact same question as OP. I'm looking for a phone under about $150 (although I'd prefer a bit lower, like $120-130) to use with the StraightTalk BYOD thing. I almost bought an Impulse 4G, but they don't have a keyboard, and that's a deal breaker for me. Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't mind eBaying for it.
Also, as a sidenote, I need to use this phone with ATT towers, not T-Mobile towers. I think that's just something you select when you buy the SIM card for BYOD, but I'm not sure if the phone I pick would have any effect on that.
EDIT: Think I may get an XPeria Play on eBay. They looked awesome when they dropped last year. It doesn't have a keyboard, but... Well, I might be willing to trade a keyboard for a gamepad.