why is CyanogenMod that 'good' ? - G1 Android Development

hi all,
i just want to say something about cyanogenmod.
i think its not really good.
in my opinion, it sucks.. im really sorry but i dont know why you call CM that good because there is aprox like 19mb free of ram :S :S
so everytime i go to an app and then exit it is going to restart my home screen wich is verry annoying and there is sooooo less ram free.
so why you think its 'good'?
//Nick

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I know what you mean though, I get 30mb free on SpeedyEclair or w/e it's called so unlike CM my homescreen is always snappy. I uses Launcher Pro instead of ADW launcher though, gonna flash CM w/ Launcher Pro now and see if that fixes it.

hahah ke so im not the only 1 with the restarting home screen etc..??
//Nick

It's probably so "good" because Cyan was the first person to get a stable Eclair rom with everything working put together for Dream/Sapphire. People sometimes feel loyalty to someone who can solve a big problem like that, and ignore the faults.

nickislauw said:
hi all,
i just want to say something about cyanogenmod.
i think its not really good.
in my opinion, it sucks.. im really sorry but i dont know why you call CM that good because there is aprox like 19mb free of ram :S :S
so everytime i go to an app and then exit it is going to restart my home screen wich is verry annoying and there is sooooo less ram free.
so why you think its 'good'?
//Nick
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What you have there is called an opinion. The thing about opinion is theres always more than one
However if 99.99% of android users have the same positive opinion about cyanogenmod and ur not part of that 99.99%, then you're just ignorant.
This is not G1 Android Opinion, its G1 Android Development, please post in the right section and keep ur opinions to yourself.

it doesnt suck because of that. i think it runs really smooth, and im running with no swap/compcache or apps2sd

lol no its not an opinion.. its the truth.. my ram is 19 mb free and whenever i exit an app the home screen is restarting EVERY TIME.
i appreciate his work but i think this is not 'stable' and 'fast'

wow CM 5 has given me no issues, maybe you did something wrong......

Daneshm90 said:
However if 99.99% of android users have the same positive opinion about cyanogenmod and ur not part of that 99.99%, then you're just ignorant.
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If you don't agree with the majority you're ignorant? Doesn't that just contradict what you said about having an *opinion*?!
But yes I agree that this really shouldn't be here...

nickislauw said:
hi all,
i just want to say something about cyanogenmod.
i think its not really good.
in my opinion, it sucks.. im really sorry but i dont know why you call CM that good because there is aprox like 19mb free of ram :S :S
so everytime i go to an app and then exit it is going to restart my home screen wich is verry annoying and there is sooooo less ram free.
so why you think its 'good'?
//Nick
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Let me answer your question with incredible ease. Free RAM is wasted RAM. It doesn't do anything. When a computer has extra resources that it could use, it should use it. If its algorithm is smart enough to free up RAM without swapping, that's even better.
Even if you run Ubuntu or some other linux distro, you'd see that you won't have much free RAM, but most of that RAM goes into the "cached" category. This is not wasteful unlike Windows.

This is not only in the wrong section it's a useless post and could be considered flaming.
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----------THIS IS A STOCK ROM WITH ALL THE CRAP REMOVED, A BUNCH OF REG EDITS THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO WITH KAISER_TWEAK OR ADVANCED_CONFIGURATION...
----------IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE APPS I HAVE INSTALL DURING CUSTOMIZATION YOU CAN DELETE THEM USING THE WINDOWS MOBILE APPLICATION MANAGER...
Hey boys and girls,
I have been working for a few days on this ROM for you all. Well its more built for my buddy Kavi, but I thought i would share with you fun people Its based off the HTC OEM release 5.2.19212 and has MANY MANY bug fixes!
I'll start with the list of installed apps at first run, remember these apps CAN be uninstalled thats why I have them run at customization!
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(Not in Install Order)
- Pocket_RAR
- Opera Beta
- VisualGPS
- New Task Manager
- Adobe PDF 2.5 (From Diamond)
- BeeJive IM
- Random Access
- Advanced Config (shaps)
- Diamond calculator skin (Blue and Black looks really cool!)
- Google Maps (New build from Xperia)
- HTC_Album
- Start_Clean
- T-GPS (really interesting GPS app, Not sure how it works since I haven't played with it much but many have given it great reviews)
- Total Commander 2.5
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*All .EXE's have been compressed and optimized to save every last byte of space
*ClearType is fixed using the 3.10.00.00 DDI.dll
*All Diamond RingTones
*All Extra crap removed (Windows Live **** is gone, CyberTron Speed Dial, Network Configuration, SIM Manager, Sample Pictures and crap)
*New GPS drivers (Well they are the drivers from WM6.0 when the GPS worked great, I also did some work on the .dll's for better GPS performance. You won't find these drivers any place but in my roms, Well until someone rips them out and calls them there own)
*TONS or REG tweaks
*MMS 5.31
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PAGEPOOL - Dynamic (helps with memory leaks)
Screen Shots? No it looks just like every other stock ROM released from HTC But I have included lots of different .tsk files for you! Also a nice looking .tsk is installed at startup!
DOWNLOAD LINK
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Once again testing is needed as I can't recreate all the setups that you all might have. BUT it should be pretty damn bug free as all my roms are~
*** The ClearType issue is fixed at the cost of Opera Beta not working (Not Opera Mini) HOWEVER I will make a new ROM later that includes the new DDI.dll and a updated version of Schaps Advanced Configuration app that will let you change back and forth between the old DDI.dll and the new DDI.dll to get Opera Beta working if there is a demand for it. Honestly I don't like Opera Beta since its slow to load pages unless on WiFi and well its still in Beta and doesn't have flash like the new version of SkyFire does. So if you would like me to make a new ROM then post a comment and like I said if a few would like me to make a new ROM I will ***
Please Donate to my Candy Bar Charity Many Hours and Blood go into my ROMS....
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austinsnyc said:
Well its more built for my buddy Kavi, but I thought i would share with you dumb ass people
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Us dumb ass people?
SH4YD33 said:
Us dumb ass people?
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am i suppose to be offended
SH4YD33 said:
Us dumb ass people?
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Dont take offense bro, hes from New York I think and Im sure he doesnt mean it in a bad way. Im in L.A. and its pretty common to call friends by names that would usually be offensive. He makes real nice roms too, Ill prob try this one today.
Can we see some screenshots of this ROM in action from anyone that has used it at all? I have just been playing around with some roms, and re-decided to stick with Laurentius26's V9 rom for now, unless this one proves better.
I am in the UK on orange. Does this ROM inc a radio or is it OS only?
Thanks again
Sean Saunders
Is this the official dumb ass people rom?? or just a regular dumb ass person rom??........
I'll pass.
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Us dumb ass people?
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Dont take offense bro, hes from New York I think and Im sure he doesnt mean it in a bad way. Im in L.A. and its pretty common to call friends by names that would usually be offensive. He makes real nice roms too, Ill prob try this one today.
Well I have friends and family from NY and they don't use that type of talk unless they mean it in a bad way...I'll pass on this too.....
Austin thanks for the release. I will be testing the GPS today (whole day )like I always do.
@ People who have GPS cold lock problems with WinMo 6.1
For the last two weeks we have been testing different GPS drivers and finally found a way to get cold lock times under 1 minute consistently by using WinMo 6.0 drivers.
If you have cold lock issues give this ROM a shot. Really would like to hear whether it fixes the cold lock problem in your device.
BTW: I don't think Austin meant "dumb asses" in a bad way
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=efdafab1993d3e1595af63b7d44918aa9c3c11e0a3ea4d36
wait, if the ddi.dll version is 3.10.0000, then doesn't that mean that direct3d does not work?
For the real dumb a**
Yeah well this guy always thinks he's some sort of god or something, when in fact he's actually a nobody just trying to be important. I for one will ignore this thread and so should anyone that feels the same. Thanks for making me write prick....I thought I would never, but u actually touched a string. Ps: next time, try to post it in your "vip" forum....maybe your 2 members will get the joke and really laugh.
lighten up!!
take a joke people or is everyone to stuck up and riding there high horse to smile..... sorry if offended anyone it was not suppose to
mbarvian said:
wait, if the ddi.dll version is 3.10.0000, then doesn't that mean that direct3d does not work?
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true d3d doesnt work correctly yet, so i went with cleartype over d3d. there really are no apps or such that i use as a business user.
austinsnyc said:
true d3d doesnt work correctly yet, so i went with cleartype over d3d. there really are no apps or such that i use as a business user.
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doesn't opera mobile use direct3d?
mbarvian said:
doesn't opera mobile use direct3d?
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Yes it does, the opera mini use D3D bro,.
Garmin said:
Yes it does, the opera mini use D3D bro,.
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opera mini or opera mobile?
different things
mbarvian said:
opera mini or opera mobile?
different things
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Both of them,.
opera mini i use about every 15 minutes and it works perfect with this rom! so i would take that as d3d working as good as it gets these days i used all modules that DDI.dll called for from the rom that the .dll was taken from. rest assured there are no issues with this rom
EDIT: this was posted on Xda due to a large number of people wanting a some what stock rom. as you all know i try to keep most of the custom roms i make nightly on my forum BUT was requested to post this here. we all need to lighten up a little Xda has become a place of hate and people taking everything to heart! In my little world what is said here has no impact on my REAL life lol. SO everyone chill out a little! I'm going to be around here for a long time more and have been here for a very long time already so deal with it.
Yeah deal with it... Lol... Man Im new to the community and I think all of u chefs are great but I do tend to notice the virtual ego trip that goes on and it really takes away from what this site is all about... Hats off to u austinsync and all other chefs dedicating their time to produce excellent Roms for us flash junkies
swtaltima said:
Dont take offense bro, hes from New York I think and Im sure he doesnt mean it in a bad way. Im in L.A. and its pretty common to call friends by names that would usually be offensive. He makes real nice roms too, Ill prob try this one today.
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for the dumb ass comment , i am from compton , cali. and no we dont play with any of those words like that..im not offended ,,but this upholds a respect level for even noobs..lol so people should keep that in mind b4 they push that keyboard of theres

[LEWLSWSE]Making G1 With Hero/Cupcacke----Faster/Smoother

If you are wondering what the hell [LEWLSWSE] stands for, Then your should know it stands for
"Life's Easier With Linux-Swap With Some Extras"
At first this thread was a hella lot of info and my opinions but, alot of people found this thread to be corrupt,stupid,pointless,G1bricking, and a hec of alot of typos. So I'm finally re-editing it to be Better than what it was before.
(oh yeah and for those who found the typos(as in bad commands) Thank You!) I was usually editing from my phone at like 1 in the morning so please don't be angry. And sorry for the bad language I've been qute furious the past week, due to the heat here in cali.
To start,
Linux-Swap( I want a faster Hero/Cupcake!!!! Is what your Saying )
1st things first
I'm not going to tell you whats the best Linux-Swap Size is, because mainly, I don't have your G1's. And all g1's are different and respond better, to certain size swaps. So pretty much I'm going to just give my G1's results and what was perfect for me and what ran better for ME, not you because like i said YOU have to find that sweet spot on your G1
and for me that sweet spot is 96mb.
Cupcake ROM's 4 Me:
For me all cupcake ROM's were perfect(kinda), I'm not gonna mention names here but in majority for a super highly responsive cupcacke.
Use 64mb
Hero ROM's:
In majority Hero ROM's need a swap. period.. because there super resource hoggers and require alot of G1 power/stuff to be running smoothly, plus the fact that it wasn't ment to be on a G1.(but that will soon change) Thanks to all the devs.
Anyways for me any pretty much all of the Hero ROM's, i found that 96mb is perfect for pretty much any, mainly because from everytime of flashing back and fourth on my G1 i found that 96mb was in the lead no matter what i did. And even though i felt dumb trying to outsmart the ROM cookers, I was successful, and was able to run a stable Hero for about a week, but longer then that i wouldn't know because, i quit the testing figuring it was perfect
In general Use 96mb
Now everybody remember this is MY G1 not yours
My G1 may and does act differently then your does. So you would have to find the sweet spot your self to find out what best for you,
In my opinion the majority of the dream owners find that 96mb was perfect for any ROM Cupcake/Hero
Basically 96mb is perfect for Someone who switches back from cupcake to hero, so its kinda hybrid like those ugly @ss cars you see on the street
And for me I guess im using a Hybrid Swap because i find, myself switching from stable cupcake to sluggish(remember thats ISH) Rosie. TO see how shes been doing(Kinda Better)
Am so yeah Linux-Swap play around with it find your G1's sweet spot
Its not that hard its actually quite easy, So have fun!
Anyways here the extras as i meantioned in the title.
(How to)Formating your SD, Then reformating it to fat32/ext2/linux-swap
How to Format(meaning everything deleted) your card using recovery console
however this is only through Cyanogens Recovery so if you don't have it, Get at it!!! HERE!!!
Right Click to save as .img
http://n0rp.chemlab.org/android/cm-...m/sd/*
and yes that is a star don't forget it
Need more info like (Hero)
1. How many screens do you use
2. What, if any widgets do you use
3. How many app icons (if any)
4. Do you use Mail or just gMail
5. How many apps are installed
I think all this is relevant due to the fact that the more stuff you have running will cause it slow down. What I mean by running? Well do you have Mail,Tweeter, Weather and so on, set up which checks for updates at timed intervals.
Wow. Seriously wow. Thank you for your research. Your scientifc approach rivals any I've ever seen. To put this in the language you used in the OP, I like (idk) can't believe I read the entire thread? I think.
miketaylor00 said:
Wow. Seriously wow. Thank you for your research. Your scientifc approach rivals any I've ever seen. To put this in the language you used in the OP, I like (idk) can't believe I read the entire thread? I think.
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Thanks for your help man, disregard people who post things like this to to try to look cool...
hgmarcia said:
Thanks for your help man, disregard people who post things like this to to try to look cool...
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I don't need to post on this thread to look cool. Please explain to me exactly how this rambling post full of anecdotal evidence helps improve the community?
I look forward to your response.
miketaylor00 said:
I don't need to post on this thread to look cool. Please explain to me exactly how this rambling post full of anecdotal evidence helps improve the community?
I look forward to your response.
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It helped me.
I have a 92mb swap and have to agree, it does help... although i still some rare loading screen(class4 sd). anyone tried over 110MB swap?
thank you for your efforts!
i have learned and will benefit from your work.
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
THis is a friendly forum and people don't mean any hard. Everyone needs to just chill out and enjoy this great thread and ignore other comments. Why should a comment on the internet bother you? Don't take offense to something written on a forum people. Come on people you guys are above this. Just read, post your opinion, and respect other's opinions. BTW after reading this all I need is bluetooth and fully functioning LEDs to run Hero now. Thanks jf4888!
as far as Swap partition is concern you should NEVER make it bigger than the actual RAM of your computer/phone.
So if the HTC Dream has 192MB of RAM (but only 98MB are free/usable/recognized by the OS) that means the linux-swap CAN be set to 96MB but it SHOULD NOT go any higher dont be absurd..
i've used 96MB with no problems "although it might become unstable in a long run".
so if you wanna use 96mb go ahead.. it will run just fine!
and if you like been a little superticious 192MB + 96MB ' linux-swap ' = 288MB (same of Hero's memory capacity) your Hero ROM might think you have the actual phone
gl hf
Waiting for answers to my questions please!
I have read people say "My hero is on crack, its so fast" only to find out they only use 1 or 3 screen and no widgets.
I personally tried 32, 96 and now on 64
I found 96 to work for a few days, mind you I was overclocking it and was using task killer and auto starts to modify what's runs at start up and killing apps every time I went home just to keep it running smooth. Pain ass! (And yes I excluded TouchFlo from task killer)
So I went with 64 and by far its more reliable and I have NOT used autostarts or task killer.
I I have NOT seen a htc or loading since boot up.
jf4888 said:
Well everybody, here I'm gonna explain to you what the best swap for you is etc
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jf4888 said:
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
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Mike has an excellent point... the fact is that everyone's phone is different, so while 30 swappiness on compcache, for example, is optimum for my phone, he may run at 25 to be as fast. I have to agree with his overall position, and I take exception to how you started off your original post. You don't know what's best for everyone else's phone.
Essentially, your results only apply to your phone. At best they're a good starting point for the rest of us... but that's it.
Aside from that, I'm surprised that many people are even running linux-swap partitions still... old tech.
Thank you this helped, I was using a larger swap then 32mb on JacxHero and was getting crazy FC errors like you said... now I know why it happened and can switch back to that rom later if I want.
How long did you run at each of these settings? What were you running? Was your setup even close to the same between the different ROMs? Which applications were your testing?
If you are using a 96Mb swap you better reboot your phone a lot or it is going to get really laggy. Ask Drizzy. He even posted on his twitter to everyone to stop whining that Hero slows down after a few days if they are going to use a 96Mb swap.
If you are using anything but Hero you should not be using swap at all. Compcache with backing swap is MUCH more efficient than regular Linux Swap. Maybe I should start a thread that says Don't Use Linux Swap with cupcake ROMs.
clefky10 said:
Thank you this helped, I was using a larger swap then 32mb on JacxHero and was getting crazy FC errors like you said... now I know why it happened and can switch back to that rom later if I want.
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Linux Swap is worse on xROM than any other ROM I have tried it on.
Why don't people listen to the recommendations of the developers who are cooking the ROMs?
jf4888 said:
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
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I'm sure your intentions are good but your method sucks. You have provided no details to what you did, how you did it, or why. If you want to explain exactly what you did and how you benchmarked your results that would be great. If you are just going to say "I tried this setting and it 'felt' faster" you are wasting your time. Did you use any benchmarking software? Did you run any specific processes and time them?
Cupcake vs. AOSP
Cupcake ROM's:
Cyanogens Mod's: From stable to unstable etc...
I found that with his ROM's you really dont need a huge partition(Kinda Obvious) and that pretty much running his ROM on any swap size
32,48,64,96,... is good it actually just gets better(for me).
So in General: Use a 64mb partiton, its perfect.
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JacXROM: This ROM actually doesn't need a swap(Its an AOSP) thats why but i just tested it out to see what happend, i actually found that it slowed down, after surpassing 32mb partition, for some reason it lost its snap and eventually became crazy, and forced me to flash back to cyan becuase of a crazy FC error with a bigger swap :/ ??.
So in general for Jacx Use a 32mb partition
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@jf4888 - What is the difference between a cupcake build and an AOSP build? Why does one need swap and the other one doesn't? Please explain this to me.
Edit: I'm sorry if you feel like I am being an jerk. I just hate to see people post threads where they give people misleading information, which you have. You lost all credibility with your post when you started saying that Cyan and xROM are different because one uses AOSP and the other uses cupcake. Not to mention your post was poorly worded and you added "I don't know" about things that you are claiming to know about. If I'm wrong and you can prove that you have found a magic configuration that works - prove it. Back up your findings with your method. Show us your work. Give us the details that we need to reproduce your findings.
If anyone would like some help getting their ROM running faster feel free to PM me. I haven't had a chance to tune anything for Hero but my configuration works really well with xROM and Cyan.
very nice thread
im currently using 32mb and hit a loading screen if i like leave peep on and my phone goes to sleep thats prob the only time
other than that im good
ill wait till drizzy drops the new hero and try out 96mbs and will load the phone with widgets and will post results
so far really nice thread
thanks for the hard work
thanks
thanks for this thread really helped me a lot

Swype...

Forgive me if this was mentioned elsewhere, but any chance on a swype port for HTC Hero?
I heard it may be working on Eris.
There is a video showing a demo of a similar application running on the Eris....
looking into it, I guess it's not out yet, but yeah
First, this would be better in the apps forum. It is a cross device app so it fits better there. Regardless, check out ShapeWriter on the Android Market. It does the same thing and IMO it is amazing! Seriously thinking about buying it (which I never do). Takes some getting used to but they have a 30 day free trial. Definitely recommend.
chuckhriczko said:
Regardless, check out ShapeWriter on the Android Market. It does the same thing and IMO it is amazing! Seriously thinking about buying it (which I never do). Takes some getting used to but they have a 30 day free trial. Definitely recommend.
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thanks, downloading it now!
LOVE it!!!!
Is there a way to get double-tap space for period back?
alcaron said:
LOVE it!!!!
Is there a way to get double-tap space for period back?
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I dont think so but I'm not sure. My biggest complaint with it is the fact that it has the comma button so close to space and so big. I always hit too many commas. But I would recommend we all support this developer as this app is awesome. I have nothing to gain but I think that's what Android needs. More devs like this making kick ass apps.
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I dont think so but I'm not sure. My biggest complaint with it is the fact that it has the comma button so close to space and so big. I always hit too many commas. But I would recommend we all support this developer as this app is awesome. I have nothing to gain but I think that's what Android needs. More devs like this making kick ass apps.
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agreed, well except for the comma issue, I haven't hit it very many times yet.
but yeah, we need to get this dev to build us more stuff.
I'm running the trial for now, I'll prob purchase it after the holidays.
(not too much money, just extremely busy)
I bought it flat out, and completely happy, no regret. And I will say that when I want to hit period, I hit question mark, when I want to hit question mark, I hit 123 and switch layouts, ugh...otherwise...
Also, if you have problems with a word not picking up, it probably doesn't know it, type it out manually, hit add, then it finds it just fine, was my only major complaint, but SO simple to remedy. Really love this.
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
Bielinsk said:
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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Exactly what I was going to ask, so bump to the top.
Bielinsk said:
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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I havent really noticed. I have been running it for a few weeks and it seems fine for me. I run my Gutted rom with Apps2SD and I have Advanced Task Manager set to close apps every hour so I keep a good amount of free memory around anyway. But overall, I havent noticed any decrease in memory when using this over the HTC IME.

Any Roms w/ Full Scaling Overclock, EXT4, Camera, and Camcorder?

I don't care about 2.1 anymore, I just want a fast phone now. I'm starting to regret my Hero purchase and probably won't go to the EVO(*gasp*) and will instead go for a black berry or palm something. Its plain stupid to have your own phone mess up what your typing or doing because it can't process it fast enough. I can't use my phone for web browsing(too laggy) and anything that requires typing(too laggy, mistypes abc as acb, etc)
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thanks for helping.
You have to wait till the official 2.1 is released from HTC for all those features.
nope not yet
Not released, but it is possible to cook one yourself, but you would be stuck using 1.5 since the source for the kernel is required and that has only been released for the .27 kernel and the camera is only supported under 1.5 with that kernel.
wcgbmd said:
I don't care about 2.1 anymore, I just want a fast phone now. I'm starting to regret my Hero purchase and probably won't go to the EVO(*gasp*) and will instead go for a black berry or palm something. Its plain stupid to have your own phone mess up what your typing or doing because it can't process it fast enough. I can't use my phone for web browsing(too laggy) and anything that requires typing(too laggy, mistypes abc as acb, etc)
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If you're upset about lag, why would you ever choose a palm or blackberry over the 1GHZ Evo??
when the the nexus 1 launch for sprint, and isnt the evo better than the N1
wcgbmd said:
I don't care about 2.1 anymore, I just want a fast phone now. I'm starting to regret my Hero purchase and probably won't go to the EVO(*gasp*) and will instead go for a black berry or palm something. Its plain stupid to have your own phone mess up what your typing or doing because it can't process it fast enough. I can't use my phone for web browsing(too laggy) and anything that requires typing(too laggy, mistypes abc as acb, etc)
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I do agree that it is irritating to have slow features, But if you are running a custom 2.1 rom such as fresh or DC, I reccomend uninstalling the HTC Mms.apk, and just install the standard android 2.1 Mms.apk
Its alot smoother, in fact no lag at all.
Also the web browser on this phone absolutely sucks, it is worse than opera mobile on wm, it is unbearably slow.
Use opera mini, it loads up everything in 2-3 seconds, its very fast.
I agree totally with mjz147 about the Vanilla MMS.apk being MUCH faster then the HTC one..
Also using one of the replacement keyboards will work very well IMO. I'm currently using Swype, and loving it.
Dolphin Browser is also a great alternative to the stock one..
There are plenty of options and configurations available to make the phone much faster then stock even WITHOUT overclock.. My phone feels twice as fast as it did at stock running whatever custom rom I've run....
With all these options here.. I cant see why you'd go to a Palm or BB.. Its Android all day in this *****.
jUgGsY said:
Its Android all day in this *****.
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LOL! Please let me quote this for my sig?!
Leukay said:
LOL! Please let me quote this for my sig?!
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Ok.
10chars.
jUgGsY said:
Ok.
10chars.
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Haha, it just pretty much sums up my life. Well maybe not all of it, but a pretty big majority of it lol
wcgbmd said:
I don't care about 2.1 anymore, I just want a fast phone now. I'm starting to regret my Hero purchase and probably won't go to the EVO(*gasp*) and will instead go for a black berry or palm something. Its plain stupid to have your own phone mess up what your typing or doing because it can't process it fast enough. I can't use my phone for web browsing(too laggy) and anything that requires typing(too laggy, mistypes abc as acb, etc)
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1. You need a 1.5 Rom. Those Roms come with the 2.6.27 kernel (which the source was released). Toast fixed the EXT4 and did the overclock. If you wish, I can build you a kernel with the Rom that you choose for these functions.
2. The HTC keyboard does suck in its lag. I personally like the stock Android keyboard. There's a few developers that incorporate those into their Roms and I know some have them as themes. I'll look for you.
kyouko said:
You have to wait till the official 2.1 is released from HTC for all those features.
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If he stays with 2.1. But from the first message, it sounds like he's fed up with 2.1.
He can get all those features with 1.5...the kernel will have to be compiled (I have the EXT4 code, I need to add Toast's overclock patch, which is no big deal).
As for the keyboard, anything is better than the HTC one. I used to think that was the greatest keyboard until I played with stock Android. The stock Android is fast. I heard the Skype keyboard is good...haven't used it yet.
There's a gumbo 1.5c rom and an overclock here: http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-roms-hacks/10138-gumbo-1-5c-overclock.html
I'm using it, it's fast as hell and camera works great.
Not sure that you can use ext4 though, but I figure that's the least of my sacrifices.
Lets be serious, if your phone has lag at all you obviously havent done enough reading on this forum. With all the options available on this site alone you either dont know how to mod your phone correctly, or are NEVER going to be satisfied with it.
With that said, i could use a spare, i'll give $25 for it...
EDIT: Not trying to hurt anyones feelings or be big an bad over the keyboard, just stating the obvious.
wcgbmd said:
thanks for helping.
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lol dude u asked "is there a rom with blahh blahh blahh" no is the answer, u want me to lie or make something up?
wcgbmd said:
I don't care about 2.1 anymore, I just want a fast phone now. I'm starting to regret my Hero purchase and probably won't go to the EVO(*gasp*) and will instead go for a black berry or palm something. Its plain stupid to have your own phone mess up what your typing or doing because it can't process it fast enough. I can't use my phone for web browsing(too laggy) and anything that requires typing(too laggy, mistypes abc as acb, etc)
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From your response I gather that you must have never used a BlackBerry before. Any android with a physical keyboard > BlackBerry (for the things you are complaining about). That said I hate physical keyboards and Swype > All.
Negrito said:
With that said, i could use a spare, i'll give $25 for it...
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I will give you $26 for that worthless pile of phone.
I've never met anything as stupid as this post! You are crazy! Go get a blackberry or better yet an IPhone, these phones are not for you!

hd2 texas hold'em game

hello is there a texas hold'em game for online for the hd2 so i can play vs other people. like the app live holdem poker on the android os. i now boot the android os desire but it dont work very smooth so thats the reason why i want it on the wm 6.5
Greatz, Iefen
iefen said:
hello is there a texas hold'em game for online for the hd2 so i can play vs other people. like the app live holdem poker on the android os. i now boot the android os desire but it dont work very smooth so thats the reason why i want it on the wm 6.5
Greatz, Iefen
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I use live hold'em poker with android in my hd2 without any lag or issues.
Iam very surprise you have an HD2 and want to revert back to wm6.5, which by the way is the worst OS for the hd2.
Android has come a long way in development with HD2.
PENKO956 said:
Iam very surprise you have an HD2 and want to revert back to wm6.5, which by the way is the worst OS for the hd2.
Android has come a long way in development with HD2.
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Thats realy the unqualified statement I ever read. They are two different OS whereby everyone has its advantages and also disadvantages. For games and apps clearly Android is the better one. But for modding and in business the advantage is clear at WM.
yeah which one do u use? i mean wich android os.
and yeah i like the basic wm 6.5 and i seriously HATE the energy rom
Bonito77 said:
Thats realy the unqualified statement I ever read. They are two different OS whereby everyone has its advantages and also disadvantages. For games and apps clearly Android is the better one. But for modding and in business the advantage is clear at WM.
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any business you want to do with winrom you can do better with Android.
yes they do have advantages and disadvantages but theirs a reason why mostly all of hd2 owners are switching to android. windows is way behind android in apps and development. Numbers don't lie. but hey by all means go ahead and stay with your win6.5...
"unqualified statement" lol you should read more....
yeah i have the desire rom on my phone but it crashes A LOT i dont like it anymore so i dont use android much.
but if u could say how i can use my phone always with android i really like that
iefen said:
yeah i have the desire rom on my phone but it crashes A LOT i dont like it anymore so i dont use android much.
but if u could say how i can use my phone always with android i really like that
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the question is do you still want winrom?
if yes then you need to go the SD route. <- keeps windows
If no then you need to go NAND route. <- no more windows
im using HD2one NAND with no issues at all
just download the build package and follow directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898067
what sd and nand?
and i only want no wm if i getting much better **** for back
and is it possible to set it back to winmo if i dont like it?
thnx
okay i m over i m gnna use nand.
what do i need 2 do only use that link u gave me else nothing?
sry for 3trd post but i m almost sure i m gonna use nand but i got 3 questions
1. can i do EVERYTHING that i can do now with my winmo phone. so calling making pictures and that ****
2. can i switch back to winmo 6.5 if i dont like it?
3. and what is the best option to install nand? with formated sd card. without sd card. with formated phone?
thnx
PENKO956 said:
any business you want to do with winrom you can do better with Android.
yes they do have advantages and disadvantages but theirs a reason why mostly all of hd2 owners are switching to android. windows is way behind android in apps and development. Numbers don't lie. but hey by all means go ahead and stay with your win6.5...
"unqualified statement" lol you should read more....
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Be cool bro, was no attack to you only my opinion and be sure I've read enough about android. So I think e.g. my clients are not realy pleased to hear that I give google all my contact data only why I install any app.
I'll never say it didn't run smooth or anything else.
And hey, we can be glad that all of us have different flavors, or not?
Nice evening,
Grtz B.
iefen said:
sry for 3trd post but i m almost sure i m gonna use nand but i got 3 questions
1. can i do EVERYTHING that i can do now with my winmo phone. so calling making pictures and that ****
2. can i switch back to winmo 6.5 if i dont like it?
3. and what is the best option to install nand? with formated sd card. without sd card. with formated phone?
thnx
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Sorry but can't give you the answer for all of your question (didn't use android)but searched a lit bit by here and found for installation things two good threads. I don't know you found them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Hope I can help a lit.
Bonito77 said:
And hey, we can be glad that all of us have different flavors, or not?
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true that
actually I think (in my opinion) wm is better than android
I almost tried all android builds (nand & sd),android is really smooth,eye candy,easy to use os ,but it has some disadvantages that made me downgrade to wm:
1.battery life sucks,android and especially froyo can dry the battery juice in less than 12 hours and somtimes less,and battery life is one of the most important thing
in any phone,android power management still needs so many improvements
2.I don't know if I'm the only one who noticed that, but android doesn't really
have a good task manager,e.g:if I open the internet browser it won't exit until I do a soft reset,and there's several apps that don't exit,so by this way we use more ram which leads us to more battery draining
but I really like android and it's an amazing OS and I think every hd2 owner should try android,it's really cool and may keep it
we have different tastes

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