If you are wondering what the hell [LEWLSWSE] stands for, Then your should know it stands for
"Life's Easier With Linux-Swap With Some Extras"
At first this thread was a hella lot of info and my opinions but, alot of people found this thread to be corrupt,stupid,pointless,G1bricking, and a hec of alot of typos. So I'm finally re-editing it to be Better than what it was before.
(oh yeah and for those who found the typos(as in bad commands) Thank You!) I was usually editing from my phone at like 1 in the morning so please don't be angry. And sorry for the bad language I've been qute furious the past week, due to the heat here in cali.
To start,
Linux-Swap( I want a faster Hero/Cupcake!!!! Is what your Saying )
1st things first
I'm not going to tell you whats the best Linux-Swap Size is, because mainly, I don't have your G1's. And all g1's are different and respond better, to certain size swaps. So pretty much I'm going to just give my G1's results and what was perfect for me and what ran better for ME, not you because like i said YOU have to find that sweet spot on your G1
and for me that sweet spot is 96mb.
Cupcake ROM's 4 Me:
For me all cupcake ROM's were perfect(kinda), I'm not gonna mention names here but in majority for a super highly responsive cupcacke.
Use 64mb
Hero ROM's:
In majority Hero ROM's need a swap. period.. because there super resource hoggers and require alot of G1 power/stuff to be running smoothly, plus the fact that it wasn't ment to be on a G1.(but that will soon change) Thanks to all the devs.
Anyways for me any pretty much all of the Hero ROM's, i found that 96mb is perfect for pretty much any, mainly because from everytime of flashing back and fourth on my G1 i found that 96mb was in the lead no matter what i did. And even though i felt dumb trying to outsmart the ROM cookers, I was successful, and was able to run a stable Hero for about a week, but longer then that i wouldn't know because, i quit the testing figuring it was perfect
In general Use 96mb
Now everybody remember this is MY G1 not yours
My G1 may and does act differently then your does. So you would have to find the sweet spot your self to find out what best for you,
In my opinion the majority of the dream owners find that 96mb was perfect for any ROM Cupcake/Hero
Basically 96mb is perfect for Someone who switches back from cupcake to hero, so its kinda hybrid like those ugly @ss cars you see on the street
And for me I guess im using a Hybrid Swap because i find, myself switching from stable cupcake to sluggish(remember thats ISH) Rosie. TO see how shes been doing(Kinda Better)
Am so yeah Linux-Swap play around with it find your G1's sweet spot
Its not that hard its actually quite easy, So have fun!
Anyways here the extras as i meantioned in the title.
(How to)Formating your SD, Then reformating it to fat32/ext2/linux-swap
How to Format(meaning everything deleted) your card using recovery console
however this is only through Cyanogens Recovery so if you don't have it, Get at it!!! HERE!!!
Right Click to save as .img
http://n0rp.chemlab.org/android/cm-...m/sd/*
and yes that is a star don't forget it
Need more info like (Hero)
1. How many screens do you use
2. What, if any widgets do you use
3. How many app icons (if any)
4. Do you use Mail or just gMail
5. How many apps are installed
I think all this is relevant due to the fact that the more stuff you have running will cause it slow down. What I mean by running? Well do you have Mail,Tweeter, Weather and so on, set up which checks for updates at timed intervals.
Wow. Seriously wow. Thank you for your research. Your scientifc approach rivals any I've ever seen. To put this in the language you used in the OP, I like (idk) can't believe I read the entire thread? I think.
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Wow. Seriously wow. Thank you for your research. Your scientifc approach rivals any I've ever seen. To put this in the language you used in the OP, I like (idk) can't believe I read the entire thread? I think.
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Thanks for your help man, disregard people who post things like this to to try to look cool...
hgmarcia said:
Thanks for your help man, disregard people who post things like this to to try to look cool...
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I don't need to post on this thread to look cool. Please explain to me exactly how this rambling post full of anecdotal evidence helps improve the community?
I look forward to your response.
miketaylor00 said:
I don't need to post on this thread to look cool. Please explain to me exactly how this rambling post full of anecdotal evidence helps improve the community?
I look forward to your response.
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It helped me.
I have a 92mb swap and have to agree, it does help... although i still some rare loading screen(class4 sd). anyone tried over 110MB swap?
thank you for your efforts!
i have learned and will benefit from your work.
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
THis is a friendly forum and people don't mean any hard. Everyone needs to just chill out and enjoy this great thread and ignore other comments. Why should a comment on the internet bother you? Don't take offense to something written on a forum people. Come on people you guys are above this. Just read, post your opinion, and respect other's opinions. BTW after reading this all I need is bluetooth and fully functioning LEDs to run Hero now. Thanks jf4888!
as far as Swap partition is concern you should NEVER make it bigger than the actual RAM of your computer/phone.
So if the HTC Dream has 192MB of RAM (but only 98MB are free/usable/recognized by the OS) that means the linux-swap CAN be set to 96MB but it SHOULD NOT go any higher dont be absurd..
i've used 96MB with no problems "although it might become unstable in a long run".
so if you wanna use 96mb go ahead.. it will run just fine!
and if you like been a little superticious 192MB + 96MB ' linux-swap ' = 288MB (same of Hero's memory capacity) your Hero ROM might think you have the actual phone
gl hf
Waiting for answers to my questions please!
I have read people say "My hero is on crack, its so fast" only to find out they only use 1 or 3 screen and no widgets.
I personally tried 32, 96 and now on 64
I found 96 to work for a few days, mind you I was overclocking it and was using task killer and auto starts to modify what's runs at start up and killing apps every time I went home just to keep it running smooth. Pain ass! (And yes I excluded TouchFlo from task killer)
So I went with 64 and by far its more reliable and I have NOT used autostarts or task killer.
I I have NOT seen a htc or loading since boot up.
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Well everybody, here I'm gonna explain to you what the best swap for you is etc
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jf4888 said:
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
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Mike has an excellent point... the fact is that everyone's phone is different, so while 30 swappiness on compcache, for example, is optimum for my phone, he may run at 25 to be as fast. I have to agree with his overall position, and I take exception to how you started off your original post. You don't know what's best for everyone else's phone.
Essentially, your results only apply to your phone. At best they're a good starting point for the rest of us... but that's it.
Aside from that, I'm surprised that many people are even running linux-swap partitions still... old tech.
Thank you this helped, I was using a larger swap then 32mb on JacxHero and was getting crazy FC errors like you said... now I know why it happened and can switch back to that rom later if I want.
How long did you run at each of these settings? What were you running? Was your setup even close to the same between the different ROMs? Which applications were your testing?
If you are using a 96Mb swap you better reboot your phone a lot or it is going to get really laggy. Ask Drizzy. He even posted on his twitter to everyone to stop whining that Hero slows down after a few days if they are going to use a 96Mb swap.
If you are using anything but Hero you should not be using swap at all. Compcache with backing swap is MUCH more efficient than regular Linux Swap. Maybe I should start a thread that says Don't Use Linux Swap with cupcake ROMs.
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Thank you this helped, I was using a larger swap then 32mb on JacxHero and was getting crazy FC errors like you said... now I know why it happened and can switch back to that rom later if I want.
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Linux Swap is worse on xROM than any other ROM I have tried it on.
Why don't people listen to the recommendations of the developers who are cooking the ROMs?
jf4888 said:
ok first things first
1 @ @ssHoles if you have nothing better to say then dont say it
2. if you guys are being smart @sses please tell me cuz on a forum its hard to tell rather or not you being sarcastic
3. Here welcome to all those that really think it helped
4.Thank you for the suggestions
5. 110mb?? esta loco!!! i havent tried
and really dont want to try, ive heard swap many times within the last 4 weeks im about to swap my hand with a gun and *BOOM*
but yeah 11omb if you wanna try it for me
then please do so
run all the widgets(if possible) and see what happens
and if you try it out for set the swappiness to 60 or 80
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I'm sure your intentions are good but your method sucks. You have provided no details to what you did, how you did it, or why. If you want to explain exactly what you did and how you benchmarked your results that would be great. If you are just going to say "I tried this setting and it 'felt' faster" you are wasting your time. Did you use any benchmarking software? Did you run any specific processes and time them?
Cupcake vs. AOSP
Cupcake ROM's:
Cyanogens Mod's: From stable to unstable etc...
I found that with his ROM's you really dont need a huge partition(Kinda Obvious) and that pretty much running his ROM on any swap size
32,48,64,96,... is good it actually just gets better(for me).
So in General: Use a 64mb partiton, its perfect.
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JacXROM: This ROM actually doesn't need a swap(Its an AOSP) thats why but i just tested it out to see what happend, i actually found that it slowed down, after surpassing 32mb partition, for some reason it lost its snap and eventually became crazy, and forced me to flash back to cyan becuase of a crazy FC error with a bigger swap :/ ??.
So in general for Jacx Use a 32mb partition
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@jf4888 - What is the difference between a cupcake build and an AOSP build? Why does one need swap and the other one doesn't? Please explain this to me.
Edit: I'm sorry if you feel like I am being an jerk. I just hate to see people post threads where they give people misleading information, which you have. You lost all credibility with your post when you started saying that Cyan and xROM are different because one uses AOSP and the other uses cupcake. Not to mention your post was poorly worded and you added "I don't know" about things that you are claiming to know about. If I'm wrong and you can prove that you have found a magic configuration that works - prove it. Back up your findings with your method. Show us your work. Give us the details that we need to reproduce your findings.
If anyone would like some help getting their ROM running faster feel free to PM me. I haven't had a chance to tune anything for Hero but my configuration works really well with xROM and Cyan.
very nice thread
im currently using 32mb and hit a loading screen if i like leave peep on and my phone goes to sleep thats prob the only time
other than that im good
ill wait till drizzy drops the new hero and try out 96mbs and will load the phone with widgets and will post results
so far really nice thread
thanks for the hard work
thanks
thanks for this thread really helped me a lot
Related
After messing around with about 5 or so different ROMs i found, what i think to be the fastest Hero ROM ever.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=918
It runs really well, and is very snappy.
For myt3g, it needs the blurry fix, which he provides also... but after that... no bugs whatsoever. I am running this on a class4 sandisk 4gb flash, with 512 ext4 and 192 swap. awesome!
32A Or 32B ??
32B, since its for the MT3G/G1
32B. i am loving it!
Did he fix the boot screen so it doesn't scream Mightmax at you? I can't have that screaming at me at a client meeting
Faster than MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5?
Yes, better without screaming MightyMax! on boot
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Did he fix the boot screen so it doesn't scream Mightmax at you? I can't have that screaming at me at a client meeting
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For my work well on a Vodafone 32b, only many app crash without apparent reason, any solution for it?
-CarMode
-FonMaps
-Buka
-SU File Manager & Terminal
And many others apps can't work on this ROM
Can you solve this feature?
And one more question, is possible base this ROM on Android 1.6? I think it can work more fast with Donut, because it is more optimized for 32b devices.
Wow!!!
I was a little skeptical about trying a ROM from a dev from another site, but man I'm glad I did. This thing is incredible! I've only been using it for about 5 hours but I think this just shut the Hero ROM game down! I made a 192MB swap partition with 80 swappiness, and clocked the CPU to 384-528. No force closes, no reboots, apps spring open, the desktop screens scroll fluidly, apps pop open immediately, very fast keyboard, so far this seems fast as vanilla Android! So far my only complaint is there is no weather on the flip clock for some reason. I have been using "Weather Widget - Donate" from the Market instead. Oh, and the Mighty Max audio clip during start up is a little annoying, but definitely not a deal breaker. Try it, trust me!
How fast? Good enough??
Personally I don't think talking about the word fast any more an issue for 32A Magic. I have been trying most of 32B Hero ROMs and there is noting significant I say about them on my 32A. Every Hero ROM looks frikin fast to me now.
I believe is that how much of battery would run along on a single charge that what we should address on Hero ROMS now. Drizzy's Blur 1.5.7 Hero ROM last long fine. After all its CyanogenMod 4.1.999 is that I can say the best.
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Personally I don't think talking about the word fast any more an issue for 32A Magic. I have been trying most of 32B Hero ROMs and there is noting significant I say about them on my 32A. Every Hero ROM looks frikin fast to me now.
I believe is that how much of battery would run along on a single charge that what we should address on Hero ROMS now. Drizzy's Blur 1.5.7 Hero ROM last long fine. After all its CyanogenMod 4.1.999 is that I can say the best.
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Well I can say that with 32B devices performance typically varies greatly with different ROMs. So far I'm loving this on my 32B sapphire. Enjoy that extra RAM, show off .
smoothest hero rom yet for me, he did a good job on this
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I was a little skeptical about trying a ROM from a dev from another site, but man I'm glad I did. This thing is incredible! I've only been using it for about 5 hours but I think this just shut the Hero ROM game down! I made a 192MB swap partition with 80 swappiness, and clocked the CPU to 384-528. No force closes, no reboots, apps spring open, the desktop screens scroll fluidly, apps pop open immediately, very fast keyboard, so far this seems fast as vanilla Android! So far my only complaint is there is no weather on the flip clock for some reason. I have been using "Weather Widget - Donate" from the Market instead. Oh, and the Mighty Max audio clip during start up is a little annoying, but definitely not a deal breaker. Try it, trust me!
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umm... i still have no idea how to set up swappiness.... any help there?
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umm... i still have no idea how to set up swappiness.... any help there?
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Search for "Swapper" in the market place.... Swapper for Root Users
A better way to setup your SD Card. LINK
I did 512k Ext3 and 192k for Linux-swap... purring like a kitten
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Search for "Swapper" in the market place.... Swapper for Root Users
A better way to setup your SD Card. LINK
I did 512k Ext3 and 192k for Linux-swap... purring like a kitten
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how do i set up the app?
EDIT: nvm i figured it out... it failed for me the first time... but it works great now
I have been running this rom all day. 12+ hours. I love it.
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umm... i still have no idea how to set up swappiness.... any help there?
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change user.conf, you dont need Swapper.
This ROM is posted here on xda in the dream forum -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570700
I flashed it last night - 32b - and I have to say, I'm impressed and surprised. This one is running really smooth - and very responsive. "Best" one I've tried yet.
Where is this guy, and why is he not active in XDA?!
This is BY FAR the best Hero ROM i have ever tried... WOW!
THANK YOU FOR SHARING! (I could kiss you! haha)
MightyMax, I could kiss you too!
One question: Has anyone tried straining from the default swap settings, maybe enabling CC and backing_swap? If so, please post your results.
Personally I find this ROM flying, and even Benchmark Pi is FASTER than with CyanogenMod, but I am wondering what we could get by playing around with CompCache... In the meantime, I'm going to try and tweak it, and be sure to post results back here.
CHeerz!
/SAP10000/PVT32B/
SxxxA said:
Where is this guy, and why is he not active in XDA?!
This is BY FAR the best Hero ROM i have ever tried... WOW!
THANK YOU FOR SHARING! (I could kiss you! haha)
MightyMax, I could kiss you too!
One question: Has anyone tried straining from the default swap settings, maybe enabling CC and backing_swap? If so, please post your results.
Personally I find this ROM flying, and even Benchmark Pi is FASTER than with CyanogenMod, but I am wondering what we could get by playing around with CompCache... In the meantime, I'm going to try and tweak it, and be sure to post results back here.
CHeerz!
/SAP10000/PVT32B/
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Well as pbaird mentioned in the post before yours he is active on XDA, in the Dream section. He goes by the name of mghtyred. After scanning through that thread I know he dropped Compache because it was causing problems. LS has always seemed faster to me anyway.
touchflo crashes all the time for me when i press the home button coming from an app, anyone else get this? i was thinking of extending the linux swap but i cant because im not an admin on my computer...anyone got any performance hints?
Forgive me if this was mentioned elsewhere, but any chance on a swype port for HTC Hero?
I heard it may be working on Eris.
There is a video showing a demo of a similar application running on the Eris....
looking into it, I guess it's not out yet, but yeah
First, this would be better in the apps forum. It is a cross device app so it fits better there. Regardless, check out ShapeWriter on the Android Market. It does the same thing and IMO it is amazing! Seriously thinking about buying it (which I never do). Takes some getting used to but they have a 30 day free trial. Definitely recommend.
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Regardless, check out ShapeWriter on the Android Market. It does the same thing and IMO it is amazing! Seriously thinking about buying it (which I never do). Takes some getting used to but they have a 30 day free trial. Definitely recommend.
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thanks, downloading it now!
LOVE it!!!!
Is there a way to get double-tap space for period back?
alcaron said:
LOVE it!!!!
Is there a way to get double-tap space for period back?
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I dont think so but I'm not sure. My biggest complaint with it is the fact that it has the comma button so close to space and so big. I always hit too many commas. But I would recommend we all support this developer as this app is awesome. I have nothing to gain but I think that's what Android needs. More devs like this making kick ass apps.
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I dont think so but I'm not sure. My biggest complaint with it is the fact that it has the comma button so close to space and so big. I always hit too many commas. But I would recommend we all support this developer as this app is awesome. I have nothing to gain but I think that's what Android needs. More devs like this making kick ass apps.
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agreed, well except for the comma issue, I haven't hit it very many times yet.
but yeah, we need to get this dev to build us more stuff.
I'm running the trial for now, I'll prob purchase it after the holidays.
(not too much money, just extremely busy)
I bought it flat out, and completely happy, no regret. And I will say that when I want to hit period, I hit question mark, when I want to hit question mark, I hit 123 and switch layouts, ugh...otherwise...
Also, if you have problems with a word not picking up, it probably doesn't know it, type it out manually, hit add, then it finds it just fine, was my only major complaint, but SO simple to remedy. Really love this.
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
Bielinsk said:
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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Exactly what I was going to ask, so bump to the top.
Bielinsk said:
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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I havent really noticed. I have been running it for a few weeks and it seems fine for me. I run my Gutted rom with Apps2SD and I have Advanced Task Manager set to close apps every hour so I keep a good amount of free memory around anyway. But overall, I havent noticed any decrease in memory when using this over the HTC IME.
[ROM][32B] tek's-ROM v0.0.1 pre-ALPHA, [Donut], "What's wrong with this picture?"
Hi, all,
Here is a project I have been working on for a couple days I would like to share with you. This is a pure, unmodified Android 1.6 Donut ROM.
Remember, this is a PRE-ALPHA, so don't expect stability, or anything extraordinary. Given that I am a pretty big n00b when it comes to developing (thus the broken market and sync in a 1.6 ROM ), and any help in getting these apps working is greatly appreciated.DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING HAPPENING TO YOUR PHONE, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!.
UPDATED: Okay, this thing is now usable. Ive combined AOSP code and The HTC ADP1 ROM so everything on the doesn't work list now works. The only things that dont work are the Apps2SD and Su (working on this as we speak). This ROM is also 100% stock.
Okay, so here are the lists:
What works:
Camera
Wifi
Gps
Keyboard
Phone
SMS
Essentially everything that isn't on the doesn't work list.
What doesn't work (everything on this list will be fixed in the future)
Su
Apps2SD
Also thanks to cyanogen for some of the system apps that have been pulled from his rom .
Download link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=87E09WTH
Cheers!
Wondering why all these things dont work on a donut rom lol?
Anyways good work
mainly causeI'm actually trying to learn how to build a donut rom lol, hopefully without making yself look like a total idiot.
this is pretty much useless
tekgek said:
mainly causeI'm actually trying to learn how to build a donut rom lol, hopefully without making yself look like a total idiot.
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Speed is the most important, and with all of this broken it wont help. Try making something of the new eris port.
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this is pretty much useless
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you're not being helpful by saying that, this kid (i'm assuming, could be wrong) just wants to learn how to build ROMs and is asking for help.
Is this rom built straight off of AOSP or is it another rom and you put own touches? Because it will help alot more so i can see if i can fix some of the broken apps for you
EDIT: It helps alot more to theme after you fix everything... Just my opinion
XxKOLOHExX said:
Is this rom built straight off of AOSP or is it another rom and you put own touches? Because it will help alot more so i can see if i can fix some of the broken apps for you
EDIT: It helps alot more to theme after you fix everything... Just my opinion
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It is built straight off AOSP, with the goal of being really fast, as fast as any other really good donut rom. But none of the other google apps work out of the box on AOSP, as I probably should have known. I would really appreciate it if you could help me out on this.
I agree, I should have themed it after, but I love the theme,so I just stuck it in there.
Tekgek
Why should I want to flash this? Or rather, why should I want to flash this once it's more developed? What is this going to have that Cyanogen or Super D or CSDI doesn't?
My point is, it'd be a good idea to maybe put something out there that you're planning on implementing into this that no one else is doing, or that you can do better. We have several stable, incredibly fast Donut roms out there right now, so what should set this apart from the rest of the crowd?
Just my two cents. I'd love to see this turn into something spectacular.
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Just my two cents. I'd love to see this turn into something spectacular.
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So would I. To one poster on this thread, I am just a person with computer skills who just got interested in Android two days ago. However, I do have plans for this rom, something that may or may not be possible. Any developer who is interested in the concept please pm me, and tell me if I am dreaming things up that are impossible or not.
EDIT: Okay, I guess its not that top secret, post ideas here too, if you like. My idea is to create a donut rom with the speed and stability of Android 1.6 on the G1, but with the ability to run 2.1 3d apps natively. Essentially, take what cyanogen has done with his ROMs to a whole new level. Impossible? Probably. Opinions, people who actually have experience with Android?
"whats wrong with this picture?"
The following
What doesn't work (everything on this list will be fixed in the future)
Android Market
Google Sync
Initial Setup
Google Apps in general
Apps2SD
nick8197 said:
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I guess it is, i mean donut stock is perfect, but again no need to theme it with what u like, leave it stock and give the link and option to theme it, I love stock donut ROms
From the department of stabbing in the dark, it sounds like your Google apps aren't signed with the right keys. I believe they need to be signed with the same keys as the rest of the /system/app apps you build off the source. Swim through Cyanogen's Twitter posts as I believe he's answered this there before (or just try resigning them and see if it works.)
To the Author:
Good job on your first build. Keep up the hard work. It sounds to me like you might not have added the GApps after you compiled it from kernel, but I could be wrong as I haven't flashed it. But don't lose hope, you'll get it.
To The Other Users:
I'm a bit disappointed in some of the replies I've been reading. It seems like a lot of you only really care about how this rom effects you, rather than how it effects the author in general. You don't build giant empire over night, but it does show that he put a lot of effort into the build. If you don't like it, don't use it, but don't make remarks that bring the developer down.
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To the Author:
Good job on your first build. Keep up the hard work. It sounds to me like you might not have added the GApps after you compiled it from kernel, but I could be wrong as I haven't flashed it. But don't lose hope, you'll get it.
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First off, thanks for the support. I really appreciate it . Second, where would I out said GApps when compiling the source?
apreichner said:
To the Author:
Good job on your first build. Keep up the hard work. It sounds to me like you might not have added the GApps after you compiled it from kernel, but I could be wrong as I haven't flashed it. But don't lose hope, you'll get it.
To The Other Users:
I'm a bit disappointed in some of the replies I've been reading. It seems like a lot of you only really care about how this rom effects you, rather than how it effects the author in general. You don't build giant empire over night, but it does show that he put a lot of effort into the build. If you don't like it, don't use it, but don't make remarks that bring the developer down.
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I agree, the maturity of some posts is quite unfortunate, no? We live in quite the selfish era =). I would like to see what you pull off in the future.
Hey dude I hope you become better at making the roms and you become an even better dev
with ALL the other BETTER donut roms, why do we even need this?
for a nice stable donut. cyanogen
anything other variation can be found.
plus all the other broken crap...gimme one good reason to flash this haha
rizocreations said:
with ALL the other BETTER donut roms, why do we even need this?
for a nice stable donut. cyanogen
anything other variation can be found.
plus all the other broken crap...gimme one good reason to flash this haha
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what a stupid comment..
Tek,
Thanks for taking time to develop ROM for our device. Goodluck!
This is a mostly unchanged ROM based on King's DroiseEris2G1, with the fixes made by Sunny and Vega on the original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642643. However, it includes WG's kernels, which improve performance to an extent that you genuinely wouldn't believe from either a Cyan based kernel, and especially over the BFS-based kernel King was originally using.
I deserve no plaudits for this. All I did was plug in a couple of kernels that WG gave me, shove them into King/Sunny's ZIP file, and resign the lump. It's by no means curing cancer or anything complicated. But as the result turned out to be (IMHO) the quickest Sense ROM I've ever seen I thought I'd share.
Developers, ROM cookers, whoever - feel free to take the ROM, tear it apart, re-pack it, add your own edits. I honestly don't really know much about this ROM cooking lark so it could definitely do with some TLC - but I think it's a worthwhile effort because when it works the WG kernels FLY on this.
What doesn't work:
* Camcorder
* Camera is a bit dodgy. It's the old 2.1 issue. When you take a picture you'll see screen corruption instead of the pic. In the gallery the pic will look a bit dodgy. However when you view the pic it'll be fine. Install and use Camera Magic from the market instead if this bothers you unduly.
* BT I suspect will still not work, even given WG's efforts to address this, simply because BT has never worked in Sense ROMs. I can't test as I have no BT devices.
* 3D will not work in the ramhack version (but you all knew that, right?)
* Keyboard backlights. As a) I have a Magic and b) I wouldn't have a clue how to fix this anyway even if I had a G1, please don't ask about this.
Everything else should work.
Why did I do this? Well, King's original ROM, especially with the tweaks made by Sunny and Vega is a beautiful bit of work. It's the first Sense ROM that's actually been usable on my phone. However, it has a BFS kernel and I absolutely *hate* BFS with a passion. I personally don't think it helps performance that much, and the way it makes the device miss half of your finger swipes so it's like having a resistive screen again. So I decided to see how the WG kernel worked out, being (IMO) the best kernel around at the moment. You simply wouldn't believe the performance increase - skim the thread, see what people are saying.
Enough yakking, give it a try, give some feedback. And most importantly, enjoy and have fun.
Requirements:
* FAT-EXT4-SWAP partitions on your SD. That's EXT4. Not EXT3 or EXT2. You'll get gapps FCs left, right and center if you ignore this little infonugget.
* A nice big SWAP. I've got 106Mb. But at least 96Mb.
New WG kernel, 3D, no ramhack (seems to work on SOME G1s, most if not all MT3Gs)
http://www.4shared.com/file/241108353/30fe6d34/KWG-noRH-try.html
Vega's fix patch for the SMD port error message in logcat, and potentially battery life. In fact if you flash this over the original King ROM you will essentially have what this thread is setting out to achieve, i.e. King's ROM+WG Kernel = epic Sense.
http://www.4shared.com/file/241419118/15d57ab0/droideris-vega-v3-WGkernel.html
This ROM comes with the social networking apps.
Old WG kernel, no 3D, ramhack (known good on G1)
http://www.4shared.com/file/240315699/5ee0521f/KingSunnyWGRamHackSigned.html
This one has no social networking apps. This is included as a bit of a historical artefact, and also as a just in case for those who can't get the latest ROM running on their G1s. This is a known good ROM on the G1. It flies quite nicely but has no 3D.
Thanks to King, Sunny, Vega, WG - and please note I'm just the bloke who thought "wouldn't it be great if we could have this fast kernel on this really nice full-featured ROM". Think of me as a cocktail mixer. Those other guys are the master distillers. (And ignore the donate thread in my sig, that's for BetterBrowser, I don't expect people to donate for me doing no more than shoving a kernel into someone else's work.)
Downloading now, then flashing it to test.
Sounds like it'll be nice thanks for this!
EDIT: Flash went ok, booting now
Took a bit to download from your site, so I threw up a mirror for you:
http://chillbeast.com/KingSunnyWGKernelSigned.zip
Gonna test it now! Thnx!
Don't forget to put some disclaimers about how it MAY hurt people G1s
like " I am not responsible to whatever happens to your phone " you never know.
One thing I should mention for those not familiar with the original ROM:
You must, repeat MUST, have an EXT4 partition. Not an EXT2 or EXT3 partition, but EXT4 - otherwise you'll get force closes on all of the gapps.
And you should have a nice big swap. 96Mb is about the going rate.
thanks Loccy! gonna try this out...
you think you'll have a new version when King updates his rom?
Flashing it now, did full wipe, 96mb and ext 4.
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thanks Loccy! gonna try this out...
you think you'll have a new version when King updates his rom?
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ill try to help with the new version without a mytouch or a testing device but hey.. W.e i can do right =]
Finished setup, contacts are syncing, seems a bit snappier so far, but it was sluggish through setup (that's always the case, I know)
Seems overall a bit faster than the original, the true test comes in a bit after it's been running for a bit and I give her a reboot or two.
FYI, 96 MB swap, 640 mb ext 4
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Don't forget to put some disclaimers about how it MAY hurt people G1s
like " I am not responsible to whatever happens to your phone " you never know.
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Done
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you think you'll have a new version when King updates his rom?
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No reason why not (although if King drops BFS there'll be no reason to!)
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Finished setup, contacts are syncing, seems a bit snappier so far, but it was sluggish through setup (that's always the case, I know)
Seems overall a bit faster than the original, the true test comes in a bit after it's been running for a bit and I give her a reboot or two.
FYI, 96 MB swap, 640 mb ext 4
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The sluggish setup can be not be sluggish if u wait a bit longer like after the initial 5-10 minute wait when u see the lock screen drag the screen down nd give it another 10 minutes nd boom ull fly through the set up i did it and it works flawlessly but that was on the other rom nd yeah .. =[
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The sluggish setup can be not be sluggish if u wait a bit longer like after the initial 5-10 minute wait when u see the lock screen drag the screen down nd give it another 10 minutes nd boom ull fly through the set up i did it and it works flawlessly but that was on the other rom nd yeah .. =[
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Ya this i know, I am just impatient lol
Now that it's been running for a bit, it's fast as ****!
Great stuff here guys, might actually run this as my daily use rom depending on how it works out over the course of the night
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Ya this i know, I am just impatient lol
Now that it's been running for a bit, it's fast as ****!
Great stuff here guys, might actually run this as my daily use rom depending on how it works out over the course of the night
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Yeah man this rom is great idk how the WG kernel affects it but it was amazing before too =]
Can I no-wipe update this over the original? It's just a pain in the ass to redo the EXT4 **** all over again.
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Can I no-wipe update this over the original? It's just a pain in the ass to redo the EXT4 **** all over again.
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if ur already on EXT-4 just wipe 1-5 and flash =]
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Can I no-wipe update this over the original? It's just a pain in the ass to redo the EXT4 **** all over again.
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Honestly? Ain't got a clue I should think it'd be OK, you'd just end up effectively replacing the kernel. You might want to wipe Dalvik as well. No promises, though!
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if ur already on EXT-4 just wipe 1-5 and flash =]
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Alright, I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
deuse said:
Don't forget to put some disclaimers about how it MAY hurt people G1s
like " I am not responsible to whatever happens to your phone " you never know.
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he doesn't need to a g1 rom wont hurt the phone at all.
trying it out
May be too soon to ask but hell Ill ask anyway.......Does the battery still only last less than 4 hours?... I know u have not had it flashed for long.... But hey some idiot has to ask it right?
I don't know if this as already been requested or not (and before you start flamming me, I did search).
I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).
My reasoning for making this request is the following.
If it's possible to include the Sense in several roms, them it should be possible to create an .apk to install it, like when you install htc home screen on windows mobile pocket pc.
thanks for reading.
p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
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I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).
p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
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How is saying "it can't be done" not useful? That's like me asking someone to make my magic faster than a computer! Is that possible? Probably not and I think it'd be nice (if I actually thought it could happen) if someone informed me that it's not possible.
I'm not a dev, but I think I can come up with reasonable answers for your question.
Since you aren't even able to flash a new rom (which requires pressing about 5 buttons after root, I don't know how you're not able to do that?), I'm assuming you know almost nothing and I thought it'd be a good idea to inform you, that something like this would be a waste of time and almost impossible. so, it can't really be done. Installing an APK file goes into your system/app or data/app. The sense ui has a freak ton of APK files along with it so installing just 1 apk file well (in my opinion) would not work out well at all. I believe there are also these odex files or whatever (I don't know much about them) but if I'm correct, those will also cause more problems. I belive that the original sense ui has a bunch of apk files in the system/app/ folder and people here even have issues porting out stuff from it, so good luck getting the whole thing out into an APK file on an unrooted phone.
It makes no sense to do this when we could just flash a rom.
Maybe someone could do something like the dxtop or GDE or w/e but that stuff lags like crazy and would probably be missing a lot of things from sense ui. Sense UI is nice and smooth, but already has some lag. It would be horrible and totally a bad idea imo.
Oh and one last thing, it's being done on the 2.1 right now. Why go back to 1.6
I find it ironic that you complain not to waste time and to not post something like "it can't be done." I could've just said that instead of explaining it to you but whatever, I could be wrong. I doubt you understood anything anyways and I think you sort of wasted the time of whoever read this because you didn't do enough research. But if someone can actually do this! Then I'm sorry for wasting your time. But I doubt it.
Whoevers going to do this, good luck lol.
I almost forgot to mention, There's like 1 sense ui rom for 32b. If it was easy, there would be more. Sooo since you're requesting this for 32B, I'm pretty sure.. it's not possible
My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
I'm surprised you found it useful lol, I thought you'd find it more confusing.
The only way you'll really understand and learn it is to do it. For starters, do not touch your Hboot/SPL and Radio. That's the main reason people brick. For example, some people think it's a good idea to erase their Hboot and then reboot the phone. I don't know why, but as long as you don't touch the things which have high risk, you'll be fine. Just follow instructions and play with it (It will consume a lot of time though). Another advice is to get a recovery image on your phone first. Otherwise, you'll encounter a soft brick which may be a pain in the ass
sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
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sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
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Rooting a rom is a big step but an easy step. Let me tell you the best place to begin sort of a precursor before you come to XDA and thats TheUnlockr.com...They have all the tutorials for rooting, etc with video links to make it a "nice transition". thats where i started...then come back here and get ya feet dirty
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..
heres some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
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My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
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I can see your apprehension on rooting your phone, but you yourself said you did a lot of research on getting a sense APK for your unrooted phone. why not use some of the research time looking on this crazy website called google.com where you can search things like "how to root a MT3G 32B" upon doing so you will discover a WIDE selection of how to's, you also might find that they link you directly to videos on this other website called youtube.com that show you STEP by STEP how to root your phone. one might say its so easy a caveman could do it.
IMHO if you're too lazy to do any of these things, you probably shouldnt root your phone at all. people wouldnt flame you if didnt come off like an asshole in your first post.
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i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..
hears some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
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i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?
go play in traffic....
and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
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i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?
go play in traffic....
and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
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well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
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Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
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yea thats true.. but the rom that i was refering too had some framework edits still not perfect but its atleast good enough to try it out..
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well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
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damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,
"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"
Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?
You contradicted ya damn self
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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no eugene made a tattoo 1.6 sense rom, but there was a MAJOR ISSUE WITH SCREEN SIZE. its fully functional, just everything is half as big...
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damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,
"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"
Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?
You contradicted ya damn self
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ur an idiot.. the op wants to know if its possible to build a 1.6 rom and add sense to it... its not possible if not it would had already been done!... but htc did do it on the tattoo..and only works on the tattoo... there is a tattoo port out there for the mt3g/g1 but thats it.... yea my first post wasnt very clear.. but i was just letting the op know about the tattoo port incase he wanted to try it out...