Do you guys know if the touch pro 2 will replaced anytime soon? I've tried googling, but I only found information about touch pro being replaced by touch pro 2.
As of now there are no plans to replace the TP2. I believe we will see some stuff at the end of this year when WP7 comes out. There have been images of a HD2 sized screen on a tp2 keyboard, but as of now that is not official.
Only thing I heard that was even close to the next Touch Pro/Diamond 3 is apparently the HTC Obsession.. Which will pack in Windows Mobile 7. I dont think there will be any more of the WinMo 6.1,6.5, 6.5.x phones being released.
i think the op meant when you give the phone for replacement like how tp members got the tp2
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Touch Pro devices are finally arriving in the US, but one interesting question remains on my mind.
Will the Fuze (and other variants of the Touch Pro) have the ability to run Windows Mobile 7? It would be nice if the Touch Pro we purchase today can be upgraded to WM7 in 2009/2010 whenever it comes out. I apologize if the answer to this question is obvious, but I couldn't find the answer anywhere yet.
The closest thread that I have found on xda is this short/old one from the Diamond forum in 2006/2007:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405619
Additionally, WM7 has evolved greatly since then.
On a related note, my other newbie question question is:
Does multi-touch functionality require multi-touch hardware? I ask this because a Touch Pro running WM7 without multi-touch would be pretty gimped.
In one thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2784802), it is mentioned that "neither Xperia nor Touch Pro will ever have multi-touch capability."
Additionally, the videos of Touch Pro that we've seen online are not true multi-touch.
(e.g. http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/20/htcs-touch-diamond-pro-are-multi-touch-gods-just-not-how-you/)
At this point no one but the WM7 dev team would really know.
But, and this will probably sound stupid for someone about to buy a Raphael, I hope it's not forward compatible.
Here's why: WM7 should be a big step forward from WM6, the way WM5 was compared to wm2003. If WM7 is going to be a truly revolutionary OS build then it should require many different hardware specs (like multtouch). Sure it will suck to shell out for another phone (although this isn't happening for another 16 months...), but I think that's well worth it to have a truly upgraded OS.
I was pretty bummed when WM6 came out and was merely a bug fix over WM5. I wanted a worthy jump the way 5 was over 2003, and instead got a few visual tweaks. Hell, 6 to 6.1 was more of an upgrade. I want 7 to be a paradigmatic upgrade.
To be fair, you can even get a Blue Angel to run Wm6.1 pretty easily, so it's probably likely that WM7 will run on a Raphael. But if WM7 is as new and powerful as they claim it will be, then I'll gladly buy a new device.
I agree, zachoo. The only thing is, that yesterday, a Motorola Exec. dropped the name of WM6.5, which should *definitely* (if it actually exists) run on the TP. Honestly, the TP will probably run WM7, however to truly take advantage of its capabilities (from what we've seen so far) we're going to need a phone that is natively designed to use WM7 (multitiouch, light sensor, accelerometer, large internal memory, more than 65k color screen). Although I'll be buying a Fuze, I'm still watching and waiting for the iKiller WM7 HTC Device.
Yeah, but there might be a WinMo 6.5
Don't know what would be in it but it might be a nice half-step.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14534
i heard that wm7 isnt coming out til 2010?
Rumors says WM 6.5 first.
in any case i don't think TP will be able to run WM7 due to lack of multitouch screen. correct me if i'm wrong, but i was under the impression only the hardware key surfaces support multitouch, and not the actual screen itself. (i think multitouch requires capacitive touch screen, which TP doesn't have)
i, too, hoped that HTC would offer free upgrade if WM7 comes out by the end of 2009, but now that 6.5 is in the air...it seems likely that wm7 will be pushed back ONCE again
Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.
HTC in my experience is awefull build quality. After owning four diferent models I have vowed never to own one again. Shame really, apart from the poor camera selection they are designed really well ..... just a shame they fall to bits.
Out of your list, would have to be TG01.
Have you looked at the new Omnia II's? (not the Omnia HD) Theres a full on Iphone/HD lookie-likely and two keyboard models, one a TP2 type and one a blackberry type.
Don't forget the Acer M900 (which is what I currently use) and the more pocket friendly F900.
Touch Pro 2 definetly
Because keyboard is a must for me!
Merge threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4181275#post4181275
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Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.
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I had windows mobile and even though preference is a matter of perspective.... windows might be a step in the wrong direction. Back when I had it windows was ahead of its time... but now it seems like its standing still ... like its been stagnant for the last 3 yrs I haven't seen any major differences...from android to winmo is going Back to resistive touch screens... with not so finger friendly gestures because the screens tend to not pick up on the motion... I would really love to see MS step it up and release a new os or 7.0 which I hope makes a major difference. Dont get me wrong for business i would only use winmo or BB... but at this point Android just seems like a wiser choice... its not an ancient OS that will probably bore you quickly. All the phones sound great ... if you want break down and comparisons then go to infosyncworld.com ... they rate the phones for you.
As somebody who's an advocate of Windows Mobile, my honest opinion is that now isn't a good time to buy a WinMo phone at all, especially not for the first time. The only people I would recommend the current batch of WM phones to are people who already use WM, don't want to learn a different system, and REALLY need a new device.
Here's why: Windows Mobile 6 has a real learning curve, and coming from Android you're probably going to find yourself frustrated at a lot of the inconsistencies and complications. Further, WM7 is already on the horizon and I think we'll be getting our first real peeks at it before the year is out. It should be a massive, fundamental overhaul to the way WM works. There's a lot of unanswered questions right now, ESPECIALLY whether WM7 apps will work on WM6 devices and whether it will be possible to upgrade any current WM6 or 6.5 devices to 7. If not, it's possible that application support for WM6 devices might grind to a halt within a year.
If I were in your boots, I'd try to hold on to that G1 as long as you can. By October or November, I think we'll have a better view of the future of WM and it'll be easier to see whether WM will serve your needs going forward.
Now, all this is completely moot if you're rolling in enough dough to just buy a new phone whenever you feel like it. If so, feel free to buy whatever you like.
Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. I really dont care about having to learn how to use windows mobile. Im more interested in the devices themself. My main concern is switching to a device with out a keyboard.
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Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. \\
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Well, that's the problem: we just don't know yet. A lot of people here seem to take it for granted that WM7 will be as "open" as WM6 in terms of porting and the like, but comments from MS make me a lot less confident -- it sounds like WM7 might have much more specific hardware requirements that will keep it from being run on older models. It's POSSIBLE WM7 will be able to be put on, say, a Touch Pro 2, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
All signs point to WM7 being a major upgrade (keep in mind that WM7 has been in development since 6.1 dropped if not longer), and I think it's going to be really disappointing to be stuck with 6.5 once 7 hits.
But if you're looking to roll the dice, the Touch Pro 2 looks like a great phone UNLESS you want to use it as a media player. Lack of a 3.5mm jack is a serious weakness there.
yea the 3.5mm jack is a necessity b/c i planned on getting the Motorola S9s or something along that line to use because all of those except the hero are huge or heavy
I personally don’t believe that WM7 will be ready early 2010. It might take until 2011 that we see any WM7device.
TP2 seams currently best HTC choice if you need keyboard. However frankly speaking after having 2 HTC devices (Hermes and Kaiser) with slide keyboards I am not very confident about the durability (quality) of HTC hardware. Both of the devices had after short time issues with the rails and tilt mechanism.
Just recently I went to a shop to have look on the TP2 and the keyboard rails and the tilt seams same crap as previous devices. You can also read many complain in the TP2 section about screen wobbling. Touch HD has a very nice large screen (love large screens) but it is 1 year old technology and performance wise it did not satisfied many people. Furthermore as you are from USA you would need Australian version to able to use in American 3G. But the Device cost still after 1 year some 800-900$
My personal favoured are currently the Samsung Omnia II/i800 and Samsung Omnia II pro (b7610) Specs on the paper and the current reviews are indicating that those are under best devices on the market. Furthermore Samsung has almost entirely covered with additional software the aged WinMo operation platform. Further positive point is the Price. Both Samsung devices are about 100-200 USD cheaper then HTC devices even though they have better CPU; Camera etc.
I agree with Bulldog -- the Omnia II devices look really excellent. I like the design of the TP2 better, but I trust Samsung's build quality more and, feature-wise, it's fantastic.
Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
That for me is an added value to consider before buying
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Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
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Yes you do. This site offers Winmob o/s and Winmob App support to all. If you want cooked roms, look no further than omnia.modaco.com where there are plenty! My Omnia (original one) is currently running a great cooked rom of WM 6.5
Lets also not forget the AMOLED screen either on the new Omnias. I really regret buying my Acer M900, not because its crap - its not - but the new Samsungs look simply stunning. And if you factor in the success of the Omnia, widely regarded as the best Winmob all-rounder, the new Omnias should be spanking!
I've been looking for a pocket PC for a few weeks now and my attention has been drawn to the HTC models.
I would be needing it firstly for the internet and storing PDF files on that i need and can access at work and lastly as a phone.
As of yesterday i had narrowed it down to HTC HD and the diamond2 and was ready to order it but then seen that the HTC HD2/Leo/firestone (whatever it's called) is due to be released on October the 12th.
How likely do you think that release date will be?
If it is going to be December than i may as well go for the HD1 or the HTC diamond 2 but still haven't decided which one?
wait to see if the hd2/leo gets released when they say, and then decide what to go for because im sure there will be some cheap hd's around then.
Also being an owner of a touch hd I would say that the screen is excellent but i do miss having buttons so i would say go try out some models before you buy to make sure your happy with typing with no buttons
Wait for the LEO release in October. But, if you want a keyboard then look at the TP2.
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I agree with badasschris. It is a good idea to wait a few days to see whether HD2/LED is released on October 12th.
If not, you could have a look at HTC Diamond 2. I am using it and it is really great.
If you wanna choose one from Diamond 2 and HD1, I would say Diamond 2 cuz I myself is using this one and it's a nice device. HD is a little bit large for pocket. But you can have a look at Touch Pro 2. It's a great device. Or you can wait for LEO which will be announced soon.
One more for TP2!!
YEa if i was going for a current device tp2 would be top of the list because of the keyboard. but you would be silly to get anything before there is more news on the HD2 (leo)
TP2 or Xperia if you are in a hurry. X2 or Leo if you are willing to wait.
would windowsmobile7 becoming to nontouch phones like samsung jack or its just going to be for touchscreens.Who thinks that windowsmobile touch screen phones get the better apps than non touch users.Why is that
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i totally agree. i love my htc ozone. i dont want to have to get rid of it just to keep up with software. with the way developing and support are going though, we are being left behind.
touchscreen is taking over
non touch screen phones need to come back strong again
From my understanding nothing is going to be non-touch anymore. Which is good news because really touch is awesome, expecialy done right.
I think non-touch will just use "Windows Phone Classic" which is what they are calling 6.5, heck maybe they will release the original Windows Phone 7 concept and call it a day for non touch devices.
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would windowsmobile7 becoming to nontouch phones like samsung jack or its just going to be for touchscreens.Who thinks that windowsmobile touch screen phones get the better apps than non touch users.Why is that
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Windows 7 is all about capacitive screen and touch!!
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Hey you all what's up? So... For about a week, I have broken up my O2 XDA Diamond Pro because i was angry and i want to buy a WinMo device again. It should have a hardware keyboard and should be up-to-date, now the question: The best winmo device with a hardware keyboard is the HTC Touch Pro 1 but it's hardware is old, so should i wait for a new winmo device or do you think that no winmo devices with a keyboard will come out in the future? Maybe you think i'm a noob because much people do have those questions but i don't care what you think about me
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HTC-Touch-Pro-Junkie
HTC-Touch-Pro-Junkie said:
Hey you all what's up? So... For about a week, I have broken up my O2 XDA Diamond Pro because i was angry and i want to buy a WinMo device again. It should have a hardware keyboard and should be up-to-date, now the question: The best winmo device with a hardware keyboard is the HTC Touch Pro 1 but it's hardware is old, so should i wait for a new winmo device or do you think that no winmo devices with a keyboard will come out in the future? Maybe you think i'm a noob because much people do have those questions but i don't care what you think about me
Best regards
HTC-Touch-Pro-Junkie
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Umm not sure what a Diamond Pro is but if you like the touch pro, why not the touch pro 2? I have one and it rocks. You'll have to decide if you want to stick with winmo 6.5/6.5.x or move on to WP7. The TP2 runs 6.5 out of the box I think, can't remember as the first thing I did was flash a new rom. I'm sticking with winmo 6.5/6.5.x for now, I'm still not convinced with WP7.
Good luck on your choice!