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I feel like crying !! I applied the shield and after a while i knew the bubbles will not come out, I hadnt even finished applying it fully yet. After slowly pulling it off to my horror it looks like a very thin layer of the screen has come off in some places. Im totally gutted. The screen still works but it looks terrible especially after applying the normal ms protector as it exaggerates the screen difference. Im off to cry.
i have uploaded a pic with the martin shields on there now
You can see along the left edge and a small amount on the right edge
that's because you have dirt on it or you didn't apply it properly? i had a few bubbles but cleared the dirt off the screen with magic tape and reapplied (about 5 times) and eventually i got it perfect.
When you do it the right way there will be no bubbles. Its not the Shields fault but yours.
wait so what you guys are saying once its on you cant take it off. Listen, I took the shield off so it shouldnt take some screen layer off with it. ITS THE SHIELDS FAULT !. Its not effing super glue i applied i followed it to the letter. You should be able to take the stupid shield off safely without taking the screen with it.
BTW the screen was clean
Are you sure it took something of the screen? It looks like if it just some glue from the shield.
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It's like a glue residue or something left from shield material...
Please check..
i have tried tp clean. im 99% sure its the screen. if it was glue it would have come off by now. im so gutted
Get in contact with the makers of InvicibleShield then, and see if you can make them take responsibility.
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Get in contact with the makers of InvicibleShield then, and see if you can make them take responsibility.
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Of course not, it's not their friggin' fault he ripped his screen off by removing their product while it's not actually meant to be removed. If his Diamond would've been scratched after applying the Shield, sure, he could've let them take responsibility. On top of that, it still looks like its glue residue.
People need to stop suing everyone because they put their cat in the microwave, and start taking their own friggin' responsibility.
wow....
i just bought one of these... will be careful when i put it on...
omg... i just bought one of those too and its taken AGES to come in the mail. Anyone know something to becareful of when applying?
Ps.. the mirror china rubbish screen protector sucks. makes your screen and hence all your videos look like foil mtg cards.
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After seeing ur picture, I believe it's the top layer of the screen itself coming off. It happened to me once when I tried to take it off my iphone, all the screening on the back came off with the shield.
I removed InvisibleShield from my Diamond yesterday without any problems. It is an excellent shield, but too sticky for me. Now I have Boxwave AntiGlare.
indie said:
I feel like crying !! I applied the shield and after a while i knew the bubbles will not come out, I hadnt even finished applying it fully yet. After slowly pulling it off to my horror it looks like a very thin layer of the screen has come off in some places. Im totally gutted. The screen still works but it looks terrible especially after applying the normal ms protector as it exaggerates the screen difference. Im off to cry.
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With this type of screen protector you need to warm it up a little bit to soften the adhesive before you remove it. Use a hair-dryer and warm it, don't heat it up. You don't need to do that with the regular stuff, use the sticky side of the tape to remove the protector.
I believe it's the top layer of the screen itself coming off too.. becos it happen on my diamond before but i did not apply any shield (was lucky to have 1 to 1 exchange tht time)
my was apply with martain field
Do belive that all mirror is applied with some thin layer of coat one
tha_rami said:
Of course not, it's not their friggin' fault he ripped his screen off by removing their product while it's not actually meant to be removed. If his Diamond would've been scratched after applying the Shield, sure, he could've let them take responsibility. On top of that, it still looks like its glue residue.
People need to stop suing everyone because they put their cat in the microwave, and start taking their own friggin' responsibility.
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how pathetic is your comment. rread my friggin post. i applied it per instructions. hope thiis happens to you so we can make dafts comments about cats and microwaves. where does it say one the box or instructions that its permanent and cant be removed like your post
tha_rami said:
Of course not, it's not their friggin' fault he ripped his screen off by removing their product while it's not actually meant to be removed. If his Diamond would've been scratched after applying the Shield, sure, he could've let them take responsibility. On top of that, it still looks like its glue residue.
People need to stop suing everyone because they put their cat in the microwave, and start taking their own friggin' responsibility.
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How about you read up first before you start mouthing off?
This is what Zag, the makers of InvisibleShield, state:
"It is so tough that we back it with a lifetime guarantee. So, if it ever does wear or scratch, we will replace it for free, for the life of your device. And if you ever need to remove the invisibleSHIELD, no problem; it comes off clean and leaves no sticky residue."
http://www.zagg.com
Indies Diamond was damaged due to the removal of InvisibleShield, so of course it is Zags responsibility, pure textbook. And lawsuit is only applicable if Zag refuse to accept responsibility.
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It seems Zagg just changed their text on the website. However, in the FAQ:
"Q: Can the invisibleSHIELD™ be removed?
A: You can remove the invisibleSHIELD™ from your device by starting at a corner and peeling it back, like a sticker – only it doesn't leave a sticky residue. We recommend being slow and precise, particularly in sensitive areas. The invisibleSHIELD™ is completely removable, but cannot be reapplied once it has been taken off. Please contact our customer service department if you need to replace your invisibleSHIELD™."
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Where would I go from here. Im so confused. I have emailed Zagg and wait for their reply
I've got mine on as it says, loving at the moment.
You just need to be careful and patient when you apply it.
Took me about an hour to apply it properly and over a few days the small bubbles will go away.
I was using my Fuze the other day, and was scrolling down a website with the stylus, when all of a sudden the god damn stylus scratched my screen. As you can imagine i was mortified and shocked. A big gash only a week into owning my beautiful new fuze. So i take it in and tell them what happened and they gladly replaced the phone. Nice people! Guess the 30 day period does cover scratches, if by stylus!
thats odd, glad they swapped it for you. was your stylus's point sharper then usual?
So....
It's a good thing to treat your new styli to a bit of emery cloth before you start playing.
Erm... The first thing I did when I got my fuze was throw on that screen protector. Would be foolish if ya didn't do that the second go round.
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Erm... The first thing I did when I got my fuze was throw on that screen protector. Would be foolish if ya didn't do that the second go round.
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When you say "that" screen protector. Are you saying they provided one with the FUZE in the box? Or did you buy one separately?
Yes one does come inside the box.
I was applying my invisible shield today and a little bit of the solution got into the earpiece duct, about 10 minutes later my touch screen was no longer functional. I've already returned my phone and getting a new one Saturday. Be careful with your phones guys, a little liquid and its all over.
I love the included screen protector. I've used alot of protectors over the past decade and the stock one holds up better than most (especially for free). I still don't have so much as a blemish on it even with alot of active use and it traveling in my pocket (but no keys). And it's such a good fit that when people check out my phone they tell me that, "You really should get a screen protector before you get any scratches on the glass."
Joke's on them.
I never even looked in the bag with the quick start guide, sure enough a screen protector and another screen protector that comes on the phone with all the warnings on it.
Included protector
Does anyone know the manufacturer of the included protector?
I didn't get mine aligned properly, some dust started peeling it from the corner so I had to ditch it and got an invisible shield, but I liked the included one because until you get use to it, the invible shield takes some getting use to.
Just peel your included screen protector off, wash it with some soapy water, and reapply it to your screen again (while still damp, but not drippy wet). Smooth it out and gently move all the bubbles of water out to the edges of the screen, and voila.
It doesn't specifically use a tacky glue so you can reapply it again and again. I do the same trick on my DS for perfectly clear and aligned protection.
Same trick people that tinted my car windows used for getting the plastic onto glass.
killer2001 said:
I was applying my invisible shield today and a little bit of the solution got into the earpiece duct, about 10 minutes later my touch screen was no longer functional. I've already returned my phone and getting a new one Saturday. Be careful with your phones guys, a little liquid and its all over.
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Did you wait 12-24hr before putting the battery back in and powering it up after installing the invisibleshield? Because you are supposed to, to prevent exactly what happened.
Dang It, I need to double check my trash. I had no idea they provided a screen protector. It was in a bag with the quick start guide?
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Dang It, I need to double check my trash. I had no idea they provided a screen protector. It was in a bag with the quick start guide?
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I just did and now I need a new phone. I don't know if it's just me or what but I did the wet install even used less water that in the videos they have on their Site and my screen is completely screwed. I assume a little water got in between the cracks and the plastic. Half of my screen is a greyish color and the other half is almost completely fine the Grey half flashes sometimes. Has anyone had this type of water damage? Will it dry out eventually or am I screwed?
Not sure what went wrong for you. I have a full body on my iHOX, full body on my Vizio Tablet, Front and Back on my iPhone 4, and back on my iPad 3. All of them went on smoothly, the bubbles cleared within about 48 hours and they've lasted forever. The only time they come up is if I attempt fitting a new case that has overlap on the screen and a tight grip. Sorry to hear something went wrong with yours.
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Not sure what went wrong for you. I have a full body on my iHOX, full body on my Vizio Tablet, Front and Back on my iPhone 4, and back on my iPad 3. All of them went on smoothly, the bubbles cleared within about 48 hours and they've lasted forever. The only time they come up is if I attempt fitting a new case that has overlap on the screen and a tight grip. Sorry to hear something went wrong with yours.
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I'm not sure what went wrong with it either. Yes it seems it would be a nice screen protector if my phone didn't look like two face right now. I know it's not just water left over from the screen protector because I pulled it up to see of it kept the color (at first I thought it was). I hope it drys out. Seems like it could. Theirs no major discoloration. Hopefully it stops flickering as well.
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I'm not sure what went wrong with it either. Yes it seems it would be a nice screen protector if my phone didn't look like two face right now. I know it's not just water left over from the screen protector because I pulled it up to see of it kept the color (at first I thought it was). I hope it drys out. Seems like it could. Theirs no major discoloration. Hopefully it stops flickering as well.
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Try sticking it in a ziplock with some dry white rice overnight to see if that helps pull out the moisture. I would avoid turning it on till then.
Jammin72 said:
Try sticking it in a ziplock with some dry white rice overnight to see if that helps pull out the moisture. I would avoid turning it on till then.
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It's sitting in white rice as we speak. gonna leave it for a night or two. This sucks so hard.
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It's sitting in white rice as we speak. gonna leave it for a night or two. This sucks so hard.
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let me know if this works. i would like to get a screen protector myself but the bottom part of my screen makes a loose crackly noise. after what you said i'm scared it might get water in through there also. is there any non-water based way to apply the screen protector, like an alcohol solution or something that'll evap clean?
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let me know if this works. i would like to get a screen protector myself but the bottom part of my screen makes a loose crackly noise. after what you said i'm scared it might get water in through there also. is there any non-water based way to apply the screen protector, like an alcohol solution or something that'll evap clean?
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Well after a night sitting in rice I turned it on but the back light fried out of it. I wouldn't recommend wet install anything personally, I'll never get anything that says wet install ever again. Too risky Imo.
works
I have it and installed it with soapy water just like advised, took me a while to install because some particles got under the screen but worked fine.
Be careful to pay attention to edges when putting it on so there wouldn't be any bubbles and it doesn't completely cover the edges.
(Oh and if you press the screen against glass it sticks to it, pretty cool for taking timer pics or videos; careful not to rip the screen out, it sticks really good sometimes
I just got my phone last week and did not use it a lot. It was mostly in my pocket (always alone, no keys or anything) or standing on my desk. Today, I noticed there are some scratches on the back panel on the top and bottom! Is that normal ?? I thought the ceramic panel was supposed to be super scratch resistant. I'll post pictures when I have time.
Also, looking at the scratches carefully, I also noticed that the back panel is not flush with the body, it looks like the adhesive is missing in the top corner and it moves if I push it down.. really weird I think i'm gonna return it.
Definitely return it. This is not normal. Mine is very solid and the back panel does not move when you press on the corner. You've gotten a defective unit.
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Also, looking at the scratches carefully, I also noticed that the back panel is not flush with the body, it looks like the adhesive is missing in the top corner and it moves if I push it down.. really weird I think i'm gonna return it.
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I took some photos, sorry for the quality, it's hard to focus on a mirror finish You can see the mini scratches (almost like fibers) and the gap between the metal body and the back panel.
https://imgur.com/a/FsW3l
First run had some pretty bad quality issues from what people have said on here.
I thought you were just whining, but that does look odd. I'd return it
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I have scratches on mine just like that. I pre-ordered as soon as it was available. Might warranty exchange it.
return it, mine has no gap or play when applying pressure.
Jostian said:
return it, mine has no gap or play when applying pressure.
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Agreed. That gap alone is worrying enough to warrant a return in my opinion. Will probably only continue to get worse.
My Flip 3 is about nine months old. Enclosed are two pictures, one from midnight on July 4, the second from 11:30 the next morning (noon-ish, July 4). The device was left open overnight because I was backing up my files to a USB stick in preparation for Samsung's fix of the screen. You can see the de-lamination of the factory-installed screen protector spread overnight from one-half the screen, across then entire fold-area, to encompass the entire screen, in less than 12 hours. There was no damage to the screen before the de-lamination started two days ago (July 2). The first indication was a tiny spontaneous de-lamination at the far right edge where the screen folds.
The phone is lovingly cared for, never dropped, no tears, no scratches on the protective film, no water exposure, battery-saver (85%) on, slow-chaage always on, etc... The phone is otherwise in "like new" condition. Samsung support recommends a local "UBreakIFix" store for the repair. I'll let you guys know how the repair goes.
So the "cost" for using this phone, so far, is $100 a month. $900 divided by 9 months, before it's now so fragile it can't be safely used. Wow.
That sucks.
Another dropped ball from Samsung.
This was predictable. Samsung exceeded the limits of the plastics and adhesive system. It is a high risk technical venture and they likely will never have the durability most would like.
As long as the screen underneath isn't cracked/loose, it should be fixable by removing the plastic screen protector and applying your own
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As long as the screen underneath isn't cracked/loose, it should be fixable by removing the plastic screen protector and applying your own
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Yeah, the phone is in perfect condition, except for the protected coming off. If it were out of warranty I'd probablly try to fix it myself.
Interestingly, the local Samsung-authorized repair sites near me are taking one look at the phone and saying (even before they look at it), "No, we don't fix those. Check one of the other repair sites.... ." They say they'd need to replace the entire screen, rather than peel/apply a new protector. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with such an involved process being done by "just anybody." This phone is just so intricate it's hard to imagine a local repair store having the experience needed to "cut open the glued bits, avoid cutting the cables, replacing the screen, and gluing everything back together so it's secure and waterproof."
If Samsung has to fix it themselves then if the phone fails again they have no one but themselves to blame.
Does anyone here have experience with Samsung replacing their phone screen?
I took off the original screen protector about 4 weeks ago. It had no damage, but curiosity beat me and I wanted to try the real, naked screen
It felt sooooooo goooood! Smooth, no fingerprints, brighter, touch nav was better, no rainbow effect ect.
Went naked for over 3 weeks and no scratches or anything. But, a couple of days ago I applied myself the whitestone film. Easy to apply and It's better then samsungs.
So, had a nice adventure
I've read in many places that Samsung will honor the warranty even after removing the plastic screen. Double check on that, but I highly recommend replacing it
Had mine for barely a month before I couldn't deal with all the fingerprints and ugly feeling of the screen
YouTube videos are your friend for gauging the difficulty and seeing the process. Helped give me the courage to do it
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Interestingly, the local Samsung-authorized repair sites near me are taking one look at the phone and saying (even before they look at it), "No, we don't fix those. Check one of the other repair sites.... ." They say they'd need to replace the entire screen, rather than peel/apply a new protector. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with such an involved process being done by "just anybody." This phone is just so intricate it's hard to imagine a local repair store having the experience needed to "cut open the glued bits, avoid cutting the cables, replacing the screen, and gluing everything back together so it's secure and waterproof."
If Samsung has to fix it themselves then if the phone fails again they have no one but themselves to blame.
Does anyone here have experience with Samsung replacing their phone screen?
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That should tell you something.
Getting it right on the first or even second shot may prove challenging. Wet apply hydrocell's are relatively easy, one sided adhesive ones like the stock ones are a true pain.
Anyone who has removed the stock protector can tell you the flaw that causes it. They are using a rigid protector with a weak adhesive.
The folding aspect has allowed Samsung to make the process sound much more complex, but it's installing a protector like any other phone. The only difference is taking more care to smooth it into the crease. Let it sit open for a day and try to take it light for the next few. Almost any third-party protector that is decent as a screen protector will work.
The stock protector is poorly designed, but it's not some magical specialty item. It is a slightly nicer version of the film Samsung wraps all their phones with so they look new out of the box.
Screen is fine, right?
Just like peeling off a bandaid IMO. ;-)
I have decided to send the phone back to Samsung for the replacement of the screen protector. They did not require a phone factory reset for this work. I'll report the quality of the repair work when the phone is returned. I'm hoping it will look "factory fresh". But I've also ordered an aftermarket protector in case I need to fix the fix.
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They did not require a phone factory reset for this work.
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They may not have required you to do one, but I hope you did a backup. It doesn't always mean they won't end up doing one, planned or not.
Does anyone have a source to buy a new screen protector that isn't too rigid or thick? There are tons of options online but I'm not finding an OEM option to buy. But it sounds like some of you may have found a better option anyway. Any links would be appreciated!
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Does anyone have a source to buy a new screen protector that isn't too rigid or thick? There are tons of options online but I'm not finding an OEM option to buy. But it sounds like some of you may have found a better option anyway. Any links would be appreciated!
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I've used Skinomi since my Pixel 2 XL days. The wet application process makes sense and the self repair screen makes it always look new. It's what I'm currently using on the Zflip
When I had mine before I got rid of it, I replaced the screen protector with a liquid one. Worked very well up until the actual screen started cracking on the crease. Keep in mind no drops and everyday use. For the 3rd generation it's definitely sad to see
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When I had mine before I got rid of it, I replaced the screen protector with a liquid one. Worked very well up until the actual screen started cracking on the crease. Keep in mind no drops and everyday use. For the 3rd generation it's definitely sad to see
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The radius of curve is too extreme.
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... but it's installing a protector like any other phone. The only difference is taking more care to smooth it into the crease. Let it sit open for a day and try to take it light for the next few...
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Thank you so much for this helpful hint. I previously purchased a Whitestone Dome screen protector with install jig. It went on perfectly, but when I folded the phone 30 minutes later it delaminated in the crease. I threw that $20 piece in the trash. Nowhere in the instructions or installation video did it say to wait a full day. Based on your input I installed the same kit again, waited a day before carefully folding the phone and, bam, works like a champ!
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Thank you so much for this helpful hint. I previously purchased a Whitestone Dome screen protector with install jig. It went on perfectly, but when I folded the phone 30 minutes later it delaminated in the crease. I threw that $20 piece in the trash. Nowhere in the instructions or installation video did it say to wait a full day. Based on your input I installed the same kit again, waited a day before carefully folding the phone and, bam, works like a champ!
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UV cured adhesive once fully cured is at its full strength. No additional time is needed.
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Failure: incomplete cleaning; contaminated bonding surfaces, incorrect application (a thinner layer is better), or incomplete curing.
I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LV43G8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not the Seesaw UV curing machine whatever thingy. But my second attempt worked fine. Thanks for your feedback.
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I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LV43G8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not the Seesaw UV curing machine whatever thingy. But my second attempt worked fine. Thanks for your feedback.
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Yeah I have never had an easy time with either of those types of adhesive systems*. Hydrocell wet apply works best on non-folding screens for me but may not be ideal for a foldable.
*Whitestone sent the wrong screen in the right box so I never did install it. They were a complete offshore nightmare to deal with. The "new" one I received had been incorrectly reboxed. They caused me quit a bit of trouble... and never even apologized for the inconvenience. So free advertising for them.
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I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LV43G8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not the Seesaw UV curing machine whatever thingy. But my second attempt worked fine. Thanks for your feedback.
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Glad to hear it worked out in the end. There is somewhat of a curing period with any adhesive, but rigid protectors will still separate over time. Given how flimsy those are, it will be a lot longer than the stock one anyway.
If you use a UV one, longer is not always better. The catch to UV activated adhesive is the same as UV resin. It is on a parabola where it will hit peak adhesion and then actually begin to break down. It's best to follow the exact times provided and then let it get some sunlight to finish off curing.
P.S. Whatever you do, do NOT use a liquid adhesive protector on this phone. It's not an S series or Note where the panel is flush with the case. It's an aluminum body wrapped OVER the screen. While they do claim it's water resistant, getting adhesive under that edge can eventually lead to pressure on the edges that will damage the screen and cause it to fracture.