Why so few physical KB's on Android? - General Topics

I am so close to getting my entire family on HTC devices.
I have a TP2, daughter has an Eris, Son getting an Imagio.
The wife wants an Android phone but she (like me) needs a physical keyboard.
Of all the Android devices HTC has put out, why are there so few with physical keyboards (both on T-Mobile at that).
UGH...
Now she is leaning towards a Moto Droid... .

Not only on young Android
for WM too
Hope last qt2010 we can see something
What about this one?
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Tmobile my touch slider

Every major carrier has an HTC WinMo device with a keyboard. That being the TouchPro2 is carrieried by the big 4 and some of the smaller carriers too, whereas TMO is the only US carrier to offer HTC Android devices with a keyboard.

brent372 said:
Every major carrier has an HTC WinMo/Android device with a touchscreen. That being the TouchPro2 is carrried by the big 4 and some of the smaller carriers too, whereas T-Mobile is the only carrier in the world to offer HTC Android devices with a keyboard.
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True, but verizon does have the droid.... If you really must have HTC then idk...

HTC Wildfire may has QWERTY keyboard...
MOTO milestone and ME600 also have QWERTY keyboard.
QWERTY keyboard is unnecessary for me.

The Wildfire doesn't have a QWERTY keyboard. It's like a baby made of Momma Nexus and Papa Desire.

kekkle said:
The Wildfire doesn't have a QWERTY keyboard. It's like a baby made of Momma Nexus and Papa Desire.
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Thank you.
PC70110=HTC Wildfire?
In China,many sites say PC70110(or Wildfire,you can visit:http://www.pdafans.com/article-6189-1.html) has QWERTY keyboard......

The PC70110 is not the Wildfire. The picture is the Wildfire. The PC70110 looks has a keyboard like a TouchPro2.
Interesting phone although.

I literally just posted this in another forum today, but I completely agree. I am dumbfounded by the lack of an HTC Android QWERTY. Then again, looking at the history, it could be on its way in 4th quarter. Granted, these were almost all WinMo phones, but still...
HTC's Verizon release schedule for example:
Keyboard
HTC Harrier - November 2004
HTC Apache - February 2006 (odd delays, believe me, I remember)
HTC Titan - December 2007
HTC Raphael - November 2008
HTC Rhodium - September 2009
No Keyboard
HTC Vogue - April 2008
HTC Diamond - April 2009
HTC Droid Incredible - April 2010
Seems like a pretty obvious pattern to me. Sometime in 4th quarter most likely, but I'd love to see some more leaked info soon. In the past, we've typically already seen the first in the wild shots, FCC info, etc... Nothing so far, which has me thinking I'll end up with the Droid 2.
I will say that I'm getting closer to being comfortable moving away from a hardware QWERTY. I am definitely switching to an Android device this fall, and with multi-touch keyboards and Swype, I'm feeling a little more confident in the transition. Big step though, had a hardware keyboard since 2004.
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XV6600 (Harrier) --> XV6700 (Apache) --> XV6800 (Titan) --> Touch Pro2 (Rhodium W) --> ???

Well it is moot now. We ended up getting my wife an LG Ally

I think most hardware companies think it's all about getting the latest chips and screens, slapping it in any old case, and getting it on the market. Keyboards take time and effort to design. This is also why just about every non-Apple phone is painful to look at.

noahgray said:
I think most hardware companies think it's all about getting the latest chips and screens, slapping it in any old case, and getting it on the market. Keyboards take time and effort to design. This is also why just about every non-Apple phone is painful to look at.
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Oh, HTC already has the design of the near-perfect keyboard (Touch Pro2). The fact that they haven't put it on an Android device is what boggles my mind.

ckeegan said:
Oh, HTC already has the design of the near-perfect keyboard (Touch Pro2). The fact that they haven't put it on an Android device is what boggles my mind.
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Agreed....

Honestly, I thought I'd never replace my G1 without having a new hardware keyboard. Wife had a few free upgrades so we got our new MT3GS's, and I've used the keyboard maybe 10 times in the weeks I've had it. SWYPE has made me a believer, I will probably never use the keyboard again unless SWYPE is not available.

RED ZMAN said:
Honestly, I thought I'd never replace my G1 without having a new hardware keyboard. Wife had a few free upgrades so we got our new MT3GS's, and I've used the keyboard maybe 10 times in the weeks I've had it. SWYPE has made me a believer, I will probably never use the keyboard again unless SWYPE is not available.
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I thought the same, and even gave the Imagio a whirl.
I couldn't deal with it, so to the TP2 I went.

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Phones with keyboards - Android or WM, any manufacturer

Hey guys
I won't bore you with a long story so here goes the short one: I need a new phone, I currently have an Acer M900, I could buy another M900 but why not try another?
must have KEYBOARD!
Current choices and ruled out:
Omnia 2 - b7whateveritisbuthasakeyboard - No diferent to my Acer and no chefs
Milestone/Android - serious concerns over its keyboard, market access for non-network locked. Ruled out.
TP2 - lesser model than my current Acer and its HTC which i refuse to buy having been burnt several times.
So, are there any other top of the line phones with a keyboard i haven't considered?
Thanks!!!
Have you looked at the Sony Ericsson X2?
But only the TP2 has XDA developer support
Monty Burns said:
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TP2 - lesser model than my current Acer and its HTC which i refuse to buy having been burnt several times.
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Not heard of an X2 so will take a look but I know the X1 was somewhat of a disaster and also made by HTC.
omniapro b7610. its basically an omnia2 with a keyboard. (slightly smaller screen and internal storage...)
LG Expo (IQ). 1Ghz Snapdragon and wm6.5.
and yeah the xperia x2. looks really sweet but using old processor. not made by HTC.
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Omnia 2 - b7whateveritisbuthasakeyboard - No diferent to my Acer and no chefs
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Ruled that out.
The X2 does look good but you have just said my very first glance - old slow processor.
Any idea when the X10 is out? That looks spanky...
^just read on gsmarena it will be available in the uk next month.
start or end or no idea? I'm only back in the country for the first few days...... argh!
arghhh!!!
Very pricey and April
X2 will be awesome, and it's coming soon in the States (not sure about elsewhere).
The Expo too is a good phone for sure, what with Snapdragon and a nice keyboard.
From the actual ones: Rhodium!
From the upcoming: Tera, specs: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/NyoR/2009-12-0619-24-13_0023A.jpg
From the best in the history: Universal
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From the actual ones: Rhodium!
From the upcoming: Tera, specs: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/NyoR/2009-12-0619-24-13_0023A.jpg
From the best in the history: Universal
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Orb, i don't know how many times in the past I have told YOU I will never have another HTC manufactured device. I've also mentioned it in the original post. So thanks but, no thanks!
chambo622 said:
X2 will be awesome, and it's coming soon in the States (not sure about elsewhere).
The Expo too is a good phone for sure, what with Snapdragon and a nice keyboard.
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I looked at the X2 and all I can do is hope the processor is wrong on all the data sheets i've seen. How can they design a spanky phone like that and then put a processor in it thats older than my grandmother!
I can't find anything about the LG Expo, can anyone supply me a link? Is it out or due out in the next few days/weeks?
Monty Burns said:
Orb, i don't know how many times in the past I have told YOU I will never have another HTC manufactured device. I've also mentioned it in the original post. So thanks but, no thanks!
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Sorry I forgot that...
but no need to get mad, I also pointed to a non HTC device
looks very stylish but, that snap on keyboard is not going to be handy when I need it as it will back in my draw in the office or something....
and only a 3mp camera in this day and age????
Yes but a VGA front camera!
And for the KB we should test it before having any 2nd thoughts...
Peace,
Still doesn't change the fact that the keyboard is not permanently attached - no matter how it "feels". Its not going to be with me all the time and a lot of that time will be "I wish I had my keyboard with me right now"
Monty Burns said:
Still doesn't change the fact that the keyboard is not permanently attached - no matter how it "feels". Its not going to be with me all the time and a lot of that time will be "I wish I had my keyboard with me right now"
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Also, I am not too fussed with that big blob in the middle of the keyboard.

[Q] Best hardware keyboard of any phone that you've ever used?

They aren't fashionable these days, but for texting and emailing, they are still very practical. Out of curiosity, what do you consider to be the best hardware keyboard that you've ever used on a cell phone? Why?
Personally, I think that the HTC Touch Pro 2 was the best keyboard that I ever used because of its excellent layout. I also firmly prefer 5-row keyboards, which is one reason why I choose to import my Samsung Epic 4G and use it as a wi-fi device. The keyboard also allowed me to type at a decent WPM rate.
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I'm hoping for an Android phone with a similar layout. The G2/Desire Z is a 4-row keyboard and I think that the hinge might snap on that phone.
Note: Please back up your opinions with why if you are going to post a new keyboard.
Without question, the Touch Pro 2.
I absolutely agree, I can only hope there will be a newer model with a keyboard this awesome some day!
hTC Universal has been byfar the best kb device I ever used, of course my Rhodium was a great experience too but never compared to the magnificent kb and rotating pivoting screen of the Uni
Let´s see the Touch Pro 7, hope it will continue the great line of business/kb devices
There's also the new HTC 7 Pro, which is a Windows Phone 7 device. It appears to resemble the Touch Pro 2.
Lets phone for an Android version soon.
TP2 easily. So much space, and so comfortable.
You could have easily made the title of the thread:
Everyone reply to this by saying "Touch Pro 2"
...and gotten basically the same results.
FL5 said:
You could have easily made the title of the thread:
Everyone reply to this by saying "Touch Pro 2"
...and gotten basically the same results.
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At least one person thinks the HTC Universal is a good keyboard.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and not go with the epic 4g or any android phone in general, but rather the lg xenon. (;
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The SE Xperia X2's keyboard is amazing! It had a good feedback and wasn't too "clickey"
Too bad poor software made this phone basically unusable ...
Rhodium phone for sure.
Blackberry bold
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id have to go with the sidekick lx lol
G1 IMO
EuroSpeed said:
G1 IMO
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Why was the G1 so good as keyboard? It didn't feel as good as the TP2, unless you've never used it. Or if you're being sarcastic.
I liked the tp1, moved to tp2 and LOOOved it
I have the epic now and love it too. It's near perfect. (Only issue is when you type fairly fast it begins to mis letters and such...not that often though. Maybe 1 every 25 characters)
Overall tp2, epic and tp1 grade A keyboards
Epic Is As Epic Does
hTC Desire Z is also a good competitor, shame only Android on it...
Hope in 2011 the development of real hardware keyboard devices continues and give us a nice surprise!
Still thinking the best all times keyboard device is Universal
sauron0101 said:
Why was the G1 so good as keyboard? It didn't feel as good as the TP2, unless you've never used it. Or if you're being sarcastic.
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I've never used the TP2, I was answering the question. Best keyboard I have used. My opinion.
Yeah, I like the G1 keyboard. Haven't used the TP2 though it certainly looks decent (layout) in photos.
Waiting for a new Android phone with a keyboard at least as good as the G1. G2 loses because of no dedicated digit row.
The best that I've used is probably my Moments keyboard. I liked the soft keys and the spacing. The worst I've used is probably tied right now. Either the Palm Pre keyboard since it's so small, or the Droid keyboard.

New HTC devices plus a tablet at MWC

http://www.facebook.com/htcuk?v=app_7146470109
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
tablet looks very good
Well.. I'm really disappointed. I mean REALLY. When you compare the hardware it's almost nothing new.
HTC Desire S vs HTC Desire
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3077
I'm a HTC fan since many years and it's hard for me to say this, but HTC is really behind now and is only trying to make money and sell us BULL****!!!
Just see the comparison and you will know what I'm talking about... minor changes. NOT EVEN THE PROCESSOR HAS CHANGED!!!
The Incredible S is also nothing new under the sun. Not even a dual-core processor... No 1GB of ram.
Seriously, HTC, WHAT THE ****?
The hardware specs of Galaxy S II can eat HTC's newest devices for breakfast.
And HTC really made a big mistake because right now it's no more about the software, it's the hardware that matters. Android is almost the same on all devices and with a community like XDA everything (costumization) is possible.
RIP HTC, I will never buy a device from you anymore.
I feel pretty let down by HTC's showing at MWC.
I was expecting an Atrix/Galaxy 2 rival (aka the Pyramid) and they show us unibodied versions of phones that have been out since last year with slightly bigger batteries running Gingerbread.
I don't know whether to jump ship to the Atrix or to wait and see if they produce the Pyramid at a later date.
I'm not particularly interested in the Tablet, and if I was to get one i'd get the Moto Xoom or Samsung Galaxy 10.1 as they are pretty much the same as each other anyway with stock Honeycomb, rather than a massively skinned and shelled Gingerbread device.
HTC needs to stop trying to insist upon making Sense the core product they are selling and start making some big leaps in hardware, and soon..
Fail
I was expecting a dual core android 2.4 phone with physical keyboard and a android 3.0 tablet. None arrived...
Very dissapointed.
Was hoping for the Pyramid - something to rival the Galaxy S2 in terms of hardware specs.
I really want a HTC and was waiting for this news to determine how to proceed.
If you want the technology the Galaxy S2 seems to be the handset to get, but Samsungs TouchWiz just doesn't even compare to HTC's sense.
For me its the Desire S for now.....I need Sense in my life.
WHERE IS THE PYRAMID!!!!!!
remind me again why i should get rid of my N1?
oh yeah nothing... HELLO!!!! HTC!!! are you even trying anymore?
the only thing turing me off of the Atrix was the possible locked boot loader, and wanting to see what HTC was about to push out....
now that we have one thing off the list.... i feel that i may be leaving HTC for a while until they get their act together... maybe thats what they need... sales not to climb like they have, an actual slap to their bottom line that says consumers are done buying the same thing over and over... but sadly, even with the numbers we have, until the masses relize this, HTC sale numbers will continue to rise and no real reason for them to change...
in their eyes, if it aint broke, why fix it?
for me, its a total dissapointment.
i mean WTF ARE THEY THINKING
its the same ****.. AGAIN
there is still no phone that would be a REAL upgrade to my HD2..
i hoped for a new flagship.. i hoped it so bad..
i hoped for something that would frag all others away.. but they stay at the same level.. just to get even more money out from the same old **** >.>
only good thing of htc this time was the tablet. but thats it, and i guess they will overprice it, so i won't get it
i'll stick to my HD2. **** you HTC, u idiots
Sent from my HD2
like all of you, I'm very disappointed... where is my Pyramid!!?
Meh, totally under-whelming.
Build quality of the Desire S sounds nice, and i wouldn't mind having one, but it's not specced any higher than my N1 and of course is full of 'Sense' crap which i'd have to nuke from orbit before using the thing.
im really thinking of totaly switching to moto now
the atrix and the xoom tab are just too cool...
and more sexy.
Whats up Guys @ HTC
Every Smartphone producer shows their flagships at MWC this week, and HTC???
Not even one word about the Pyramid is in planning?
Sure we have to wait...
(it was the same with the Snapdragon 1GHz Processor, the TG01 was 4 months before the HD2 out)
And im pretty sure the wait was worth it!
So now we can buy soon (non HTC ):
- Many Dual core (even different Processors) Phones
- 3D Display Phones
- Ultra bright Display ( 700 Nit - Daylight usable) Phones
- Ultra thin and light (Dual Core) Phones (~8,5mm)
And whats coming from HTC? - only a "Sense" with streaming, and an "new" Facebook Button
Where is the Successor of the HD2
Come on HTC, you have to be the carriers of technology, dont get lost in Software ...
Phones are still made out of Hardware!!!
Give the people a Dream - a Dream we want to wait for :
Oh, and this will be such an Dream:
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The Galaxy S II has some fantastic hardware, but I decided because of the complaints people have about software updates etc that I would wait and see what HTC had on offer before making up my mind. Having seen it I have to wonder what exactly are they thinking? Sure they're well built phones, but why do they feel satisfied in pushing out fairly old hardware.
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
OldBloke said:
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
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Of course. It may well be that they thought a more reasonably priced (if indeed they are reasonably priced) phone would be just what the market needs. It just seemed remarkably out of place for them to wax lyrical about phones that are remarkably similar to their current generation except with new software.
HTC should really make Sense downloadable through market as a launcher instead. I just hate it. It's ugly and doesn't really make a difference for me.
Regarding the new phones there is nothing really impressive. The new Tegra2 dual core phones that are coming out (LG and Motorola) will most likely blow any of those HTC phones away. I believe they also have integrated geforce graphics so nothing should really be an issue on those phones.
My Wildfire have been a disappointment so I wouldn't even consider a HTC phone again unless I was 100% certain I could make it good.
One devices than can beat the Desire HD?
I stopped paying attention to smartphones a long time ago.
But the HTC Flyer actually catches my attention as a useful Android tablet for once. No Honeycomb is a bummer (Android is already too fragmented!), but it does have an N-trig DuoSense digitizer and apps to use it with. More than I can say for a certain other US$800 Android tablet.
Maybe I won't have to keep looking specifically at Windows Tablet PCs for a viable pen and paper alternative.
Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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yeah i really want my pyramid lol...said it on another thread and i will say it again...htc's releases have not been that great at least i didnt think so

[POLL] What Is Your Favourite Phone Brand? Vote!

WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE PHONE BRAND?
And if you want tell why , post a comment
My:
HTC , cause I like 99% of their phones. I'm not a fanboy , i like the sense & android phones and too much the HTC's appearance.
I also like to have 180gr phone , with good quality costruction , LED notifications , and all. I will never buy one another phone brand since i have used HTC's phone , the prices are always high but the quality not changes. Also i think Samsung it's more popular as phone cause they make TV's MP3 and another things. I hate iPhone , their stupid publicity's on the television that shows one stupid feature to grab more iPhone fanboys to spend their cash. For the end i like HTC because:
1. For me are the best since i have tryed 4-5 phones.
2.Semi-alluminium cases and build quality
3.Their UI's on winmo , and also android are the more beatiful , and easy to use.
4. They make only phone's and not washing machines like samsung.
5. They are always the first: Android phone was the htc first to use it , 4G (?) 3D (?)
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SEEMS THAT HTC & SAMSUNG PHONES ARE THE MOST VOTED , I WOULD LIKE IF SOME ADMIN/MODS TO KEEP THIS THREAD AS STICKY AND NEVER CLOSE IT , ON THIS WAY WE CAN SEE WHAT BRAND'S ARE THE MOST PREFERED BY XDA-DEVOLPERS USERS!
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I am a fan of samsung devices, thin, light and SAMOLED. And this is coming from someone with an iPhone 4
Nokia, they don't use the most powerful hardware, but no one else comes close to their build quality.
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Nokia, they don't use the most powerful hardware, but no one else comes close to their build quality.
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+1 for Nokia...
Edit: ****, I had a flashback and thought it was 1997 again...HTC for me!
I chose Apple, Samsung and HTC. If LG continues its winning streak of late, I will add them to my favorites list.
I choose Samsung, their phone are amazing, their screens... hmm!
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Sammy because they actually optimized their software.
It used to be HTC till they let themselves be held back by the crappy Qualcomm CPU's when everybody just outperforms them easily, also their screens are behind the Super AMOLED and IPS tech now being used thus more washed out than the rest, and lack of software optimization
Sammy gets my vote since they combine best cameras, best screens, best horsepower, and actually optimzes their software to work well too. Wish their build quality was better though
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Sony Ericsson, not the best hardware but i love there style, and the xperia line has the coolest looking droids
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Samsung w/out a doubt. <3
HTC,
Sense is a very attractive peace of software they've came up with. First android phone was made by HTC and had Sense. Became so used to it, I now won't buy a phone that isn't made by them...
The Nexus one is my only exception to a phone without HTC Sense, but funny that it is made by them.
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It used to be HTC till they let themselves be held back by the crappy Qualcomm CPU's when everybody just outperforms them easily
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I totally agree with you...
After a Magician, the brilliant Universal, the ok Trinity P3600, and the hobbled HTC Tytn II (which only matched previous phone video capabilities after the hardwork of Chainfire and others), that was it for me and HTC.
The Tytn II was powerful and well built (I dropped it off my GSXR 1000 when using it for sat nav and it only got a scratched....ok it was only 40 MPH), but limited drivers...How can you ship a phone that has slower video than an older model as stock?
Anyway, I believe Samsung (with the Galaxy S) was the first Android phone manufacturer that put the fight to Apple and the iPhone, with superior hardware and a slick UI running Android. I believe it also helped create more publicity for Android and turned potential iPhone purchasers away.
The iPhone was a collection of amazing cutting edge hardware (especially in GPU accelerated 3D graphics) and it had a brilliant user interface operating system that made good use of all of it.
I don't like Apple and the way they restrict what can be put on their device, but it's hard to ignore that without the iPhone, we wouldn't have Android as brilliant and superior as it is in it's flexibility, ease of use and multitasking.
We would have another Blackberry style device...urgh
Motorola hands down.
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sammy b/c we get most for our money
HTC will always be my favourite phone brand, not only because they are one of the biggest sponsors of the tour de france their phones have the nicest UI's and features in my opinion and now with the buy out of beats audio their phones will now rock the house
HTC
I like how their phones look... They all look alike so that's the good part! and they feel durable unlike the plastic like Samsung which feels like its either going to brake easily or its going to float away.
Sense it good and hopefully it gets better cuz HTC is like that
Used to be HTC when their designs are actually cool and unique, now its Samsung, since I realise every single manufacturers are going iPhone-clone looks anyway, might as well woot for the one with the constantly evolving specs.
HTC
Why?...
1-Good Battery
2-Easy to root and unlock.
My htc history:
Tmobile G1
My touch 3g slide
Htc Desire (G2)
Htc sensation (current)
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voted, samsung galaxy
I voted HTC for current smart phone brand since that is what I'm using now and have been very happy with it.
love the design, build quality, and the beautiful UI.
I really want to like Samsung but they really need to do something about all the plastic.
plus they need to get away from the Iclone look. Galaxy Nexus is a good start though. hopefully they embrace that design and move on from the current look of the Galaxy S line.
but having said all this, my legacy brand is Motorola. hey, grew up in the era of MicroTac, what can I tell you...

CES 2013: Any Android QWERTY devices?

Any QWERTY devices planned for CES 2013?
Nope, but i know someone who has a "samsung pro" its like a bb but uses android
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There haven't been any great or awesome Global QWERTY Androids for the entire 2012! We are edging closer to the end of slide-out QWERTYs overall, however horrific that might sound. HTC has stated at the start of 2012, that it will not focus on QWERTY phones as it consists of only a small group of buyers. Samsung launches only mid-range QWERTY phones and that too only in the US, whereas Motorola who launches high-end QWERTY phones does so only in the US as well. Sony has launched only one proper QWERTY phone and that was way back in 2011 and I have absolutely never heard of a properly LG QWERTY phone. So I would be really surprised if we do see a high-end QWERTY phone that launches globally.
Sad...........just ****ing sad.
The last Motorola QWERTY was the Photon Q on Sprint released last August. It has decent specs 4.3" screen and 1.5ghz S4 processor, but its only on Sprint. The best spec'd GSM slider appears to be the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G on T-mobile but it has At&t 3G bands, no LTE though. It has a 4" screen and a 1.5ghz S4, but only a 5MP camera.
I've not used Android before, having started with Win 6.5 on an XDA, through an Xperia X1, and onto a HTC Win phone 7, all with qwerty keyboard... Win 7 was a let-down in terms of what I could do with Word and Excel, so I am looking at an Android phone, but the over-riding requirement is a landscape sliding qwerty keyboard - so should I wait for something new which may be on the horizon, or buy whatever is currently available (not that I know what that is even) whilst I still can?
Oh, I'm in the UK... which appears to limit me still further in choice!
Many thanks,
Tref.
Tref67 said:
I've not used Android before, having started with Win 6.5 on an XDA, through an Xperia X1, and onto a HTC Win phone 7, all with qwerty keyboard... Win 7 was a let-down in terms of what I could do with Word and Excel, so I am looking at an Android phone, but the over-riding requirement is a landscape sliding qwerty keyboard - so should I wait for something new which may be on the horizon, or buy whatever is currently available (not that I know what that is even) whilst I still can?
Oh, I'm in the UK... which appears to limit me still further in choice!
Many thanks,
Tref.
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Motorola used to sell their Droid qwerty series overseas except they called them Milestone and they were GSM. But the Milestone 3 was the last and is the same as my Droid 3 which is stuck on Android 2.3 GB officially. If there was a Milestone 4 I'd recommend that but there never was, unless you want to import a Droid 4 and get a SIM unlock code. Or theres the Galaxy S Relay 4G from T-mobile that you could import, its newer and should be easier to get working on GSM since T-mobile is GSM.
spunker88 said:
If there was a Milestone 4 I'd recommend that but there never was, unless you want to import a Droid 4 and get a SIM unlock code.
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Actually, Droid 4 is not SIM locked on Verizon, and it works on overseas GSM carriers with local SIM cards without any hacking as long as it has been updated to ICS (I'm writing this on one in Europe).
dsfdfsdfs said:
Actually, Droid 4 is not SIM locked on Verizon, and it works on overseas GSM carriers with local SIM cards without any hacking as long as it has been updated to ICS (I'm writing this on one in Europe).
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I was interested a while ago in buying a Droid 4 and use it in Europe. I decided to wait for the CES and obviously i waited for nothing.
I'd be totally glad and thankful if you can share a bit of your feelings about yours. Site reviews are nice things, but user's feelings are always better.
Thanks.
monsieur_max said:
I was interested a while ago in buying a Droid 4 and use it in Europe. I decided to wait for the CES and obviously i waited for nothing.
I'd be totally glad and thankful if you can share a bit of your feelings about yours. Site reviews are nice things, but user's feelings are always better.
Thanks.
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I'd be suprised not to see a Droid 5 this year, I always thought it was a popular brand for Motorola?
Never bothered with importing a Droid 4, the LTE band (700Mhz only) is worthless here in the UK. Perhaps we will see a rise in keyboard-cases for those of us who would like a keyboard. There are some decent ones for the iPhone and some chinese ones for the Note.
saiyanora said:
I'd be suprised not to see a Droid 5 this year, I always thought it was a popular brand for Motorola?
Never bothered with importing a Droid 4, the LTE band (700Mhz only) is worthless here in the UK. Perhaps we will see a rise in keyboard-cases for those of us who would like a keyboard. There are some decent ones for the iPhone and some chinese ones for the Note.
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Any news? The situation in Europe is quite sad.. I can't understand why Motorola canceled its XT898, which could have been some sort of hope.
On the other side, Droid 4 has locked bootloader (after the Milestone I said to myself, never again), and to get to work a Photon Q is not that easy.
I don't get why no producer cares releasing a single damn QWERTY phone in Europe. Maybe they're not so popular, but given it would be the only one, I think it should have some sort of success!
I love my qwerty devices, but they're becoming rarer and rarer. After buying a Nexus 7, I think I could live without a physical keyboard and might jump on the GS4 boat.
T-Mobile G2 (Desire Z) user here and ashamed there isn't any modern, new QWERTY phones available. Can we live without them? Yes, but we can also live without SD card, 250ppi screen and quad core chips ffs.Where's my QWERTY! Also, I am still waiting for this phone that has not been released yet...
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I believe there is a poll on here somewhere for those that want a decent qwerty slide phone (my requirement is one which also has an extra row for numbers)... Unfortunately I haven't made enough posts on here yet to be able to add my name to it!
R: CES 2013: Any Android QWERTY devices?
Tref67 said:
I believe there is a poll on here somewhere for those that want a decent qwerty slide phone (my requirement is one which also has an extra row for numbers)... Unfortunately I haven't made enough posts on here yet to be able to add my name to it!
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Would you post the link please?
You can use photon q:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143
I looked into the Photon Q, but with problems of finding one to important, and getting it modified (my soldering skills are not that good) was too much for me. My HTC phone 7 is at deaths door, so I finally settled on an Xperia Z. Sure enough, my fears over the keyboard are realised (can't find my way around the phone yet either, but sure I will with time).... I bought a cheap Bluetooth qwerty keyboard the next day, and it connected and worked no problem at all, but the feel is awful... have seen nicer slide cases for the iphone 5 (with a numbers row and back lit), but will it pair up ok with that? I think for the sake of £20 I will try it... planning then to butcher a case or two to make a phone I can use the way I want to! Unless... anyone has any better ideas??!
Oh, and I can't find the poll I mentioned now!
I just bogged down and bought a galaxy s4. The bigger the screen the easier it is to type. Still, I miss buttons for emulators.
This isn't the poll I meant, but is another (old) one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437646
monsieur_max said:
I was interested a while ago in buying a Droid 4 and use it in Europe. I decided to wait for the CES and obviously i waited for nothing.
I'd be totally glad and thankful if you can share a bit of your feelings about yours. Site reviews are nice things, but user's feelings are always better.
Thanks.
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a solid buy is all i can say. funtions without disappointment at all times required and even tho it came out last year it still can sit next to an s4 without being embarassed. in fact it seems the droid 4 works smoother than the s4, but just short of smoothness of an iphone. not a big deal at all. it's the first phone that has completely met my needs and i planned on sticking with it for a while anyway. if you want a qwerty slider, then this droid 4 is the best pick in the whole planet right now. photon q is like a lower spec droid 4.
unfortunate that usa customers arent able to benefit unless theyre with verizon. hopefully motorola will be smart in realizing that locking them to verizon has harmed their sales of the device. it's 2013 and ppl are still asking if it will work in their country and holding out for a droid 5 which should be due sometime at the end of the year into the beginning of the new year. for motorola to completely drop qwerty slider would be the worst about turn for a company to make who claims to be reinventing itself. there's enough of those tablet phones.. theyre all starting to look the same.. thin and lame! i like the solid feel of my droid4. the new s4s etc dont even interest me in the least even with their higher specs theyre pointless. there's only so much u can do on a powerful device with a touchscreen keyboard before it becomes a hinderance.. symbols, arrow keys and numbers all accessible as on a hardware keyboard is an advantage over software keyboards taking up 30% of the viewable screen.. like i said.. lame.
as it is motorola NEEDS a droid 5 because there will be nothing to set them apart from the competition. all fones are now flat, all have larger battery capacity, theyre even coming waterproof too and with higher specs, infrared ports and other sensors.
if motorola does the same thing with a qwerty slider it will destroy the competition. otherwise, theyll just be filing themselves with all the weeds in the field.
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