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Windows Mobile + 3G + Fuze = Suck it iPhone

I was at family member's house the other day, and my nephew came up and showed me his new mp3 player (iRiver). He was really excited about it, though his Dad couldn't get it to sync with the computer, dumb drivers are included in Vista. He tried to get the drivers but they are on dial-up, yes I told him it wasn't 1993 anymore.
In order to get the drivers, iRiver makes you download their music manager program which is about 9MB's. You can all do the math on this one.
So what do I do? Take the same usb cable that plugs into the mp3 player, plug it into my Fuze and pick the "Internet Sharing" option when the prompt window comes up and we're surfing the net at high speed. File downloaded in about a minute and after a quick installation he was moving his entire music folder over.
Thanks to HTC for using a great standard connection philosphy cause everyone has a mini usb cable lying around. And the connection prompt that so nicely presents itself upon connection so I don't even have to search for the app.

Here Here!
I've quite appreciated HTC's practices for using industry standards! Their phones offer exceptional quality, and performance at a reasonable price. If AT&T Had not f'd up the Touch Pro keyboard (seriously, what happened to the tab and the control key!) I could see using and hacking the hell out of this phone for YEARS

is it too much to ask for a 3.5 mm though?
but yes, fuze = AMAZING

3.5 mm? its bluetooth now man. when i had my tmo mda and i hooked it up to my car and ended up slamming on the brakes it flew but luckily the phone nor its connections broke but the part of the cable that hooked up to the stereo broke and only had to replace the cable
but yeah its nice to just whip it out and do stuff. kinda like them gphone commercials

nhshah7 said:
is it too much to ask for a 3.5 mm though?
but yes, fuze = AMAZING
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I'd love an audio jack. The one thing my mates Blackstone has over my Raphael.
What you said about industry standards it does annoy me that the mini USB connector is a little weird with the one flat side though. Bent a mini USB cable using it.

chetmichaels said:
3.5 mm? its bluetooth now man. when i had my tmo mda and i hooked it up to my car and ended up slamming on the brakes it flew but luckily the phone nor its connections broke but the part of the cable that hooked up to the stereo broke and only had to replace the cable
but yeah its nice to just whip it out and do stuff. kinda like them gphone commercials
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lol not quite yet sadly. i don't have a BT headset and i only know 3 people that do. most people still use regular corded headphones...like my awesome shure e2c's

trying to get Internet Sharing to work: I get an Edge connection on my fuze (ATT), make sure I can see teh internets (on the fuze, that is) then plug it into my XP laptop via USB (ActiveSynch starts), select Internet Sharing on the fuze, and see my laptop (XP) add a connection (LAN4- my fuze) but the Fuze (Internet Sharing screen) keeps saying "waiting for Network" and times out in ~30 second, and XP drops teh Lan4. I did change XPs Internet Sharign setting under IE-->tools-->InternetOptions-->Connections (check never dial) -->Lan Settings button check Automatically Detect Settings.
My XP Laptop is already setup for internet, I just disables the wireless onboard. I want to figure this out for a family roadtrip comign up, to browwse the internet on my laptop via my Fuze unlimmitted data plan.
ANy help? (PLEASE?)

markmensch said:
trying to get Internet Sharing to work: I get an Edge connection on my fuze (ATT), make sure I can see teh internets (on the fuze, that is) then plug it into my XP laptop via USB (ActiveSynch starts), select Internet Sharing on the fuze, and see my laptop (XP) add a connection (LAN4- my fuze) but the Fuze (Internet Sharing screen) keeps saying "waiting for Network" and times out in ~30 second, and XP drops teh Lan4. I did change XPs Internet Sharign setting under IE-->tools-->InternetOptions-->Connections (check never dial) -->Lan Settings button check Automatically Detect Settings.
My XP Laptop is already setup for internet, I just disables the wireless onboard. I want to figure this out for a family roadtrip comign up, to browwse the internet on my laptop via my Fuze unlimmitted data plan.
ANy help? (PLEASE?)
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did u search the forum for the registry tweaks to enable internet sharing? it involves deleting the contents of a key...try looking around and if not i'll be glad to help

Are you serious? I thought that was ust for Sprint customers, because Sprint blocked it... My Fuze came pre-loaded with an Internet Sharing app... and I still have to hack?

markmensch said:
Are you serious? I thought that was ust for Sprint customers, because Sprint blocked it... My Fuze came pre-loaded with an Internet Sharing app... and I still have to hack?
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No hack required. Just pay AT&T the extra 30 per month and you do not need to tweak.

ntron1 said:
No hack required. Just pay AT&T the extra 30 per month and you do not need to tweak.
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Well you can hack it if you want to http://www.fuzemobility.com/att-fuze-internet-sharing-tethering-revisited/

Thanks, Nhshah7, I found several threads on the topic. Maybe you can help tho, as they seemed unclear on:
Do I need to delete HKLM\...\forcecellconnection key and that's it? some threads seemed to suggest ATT will keep kicking me off and i have to run some script that keeps changing ..\settings\enabled back to 1. (BTW, genius points to the guy who wronte the script, if that's the real deal). got ~5 mins service today from home, didn't get kicked off, ~70kb speed from Edge home is in the sticks, no 3G an I even had to go outside to get Edge):
-ATT Fuze, default WM6.1 + various tweaks

props to davidk for the clutch fuzemobility link
and yes, you just need to delete the contents of teh key. after that choose to connect using medianet and you should be all set. i dont have any of those disconnect problems though, i can tether for a good 20-30 minutes without problems, not sure what everyone else is talking about with teh script though. i'll look aroundif i get that problem though

[Q] WM 6.5 - 'Charge Only Mode'

I am looking for a tweak\tool\registry hack (if possible) to have a Charge Only Mode for Windows Mobile 6.5 if at all it is possible. Most of the times, I am at office using my HD2 (Dual boot with 6.5 and DarkStone Android ) connected to the Laptop and it would be great if I can just connect it to my laptop without choosing either of the three options
1. ActiveSync
2. USB Storage Mode
3. Internet Sharing
P.S : I did lot of search for this option but was unable to find it and hence started this thread...but I will be more than happy if anyone can redirect me to an existing thread if any, for the same issue.

When your phone is charging off the laptop do you actually use any apps on it?
I'm like you in that I spend 2 days a week with my phone charging from the laptop, but I never use it for anything other than phone calls, so selecting disk drive does the job for me.
Any apps I'd need, I'd make sure were installed on the device.

bamit99 said:
I am looking for a tweak\tool\registry hack (if possible) to have a Charge Only Mode for Windows Mobile 6.5 if at all it is possible. Most of the times, I am at office using my HD2 (Dual boot with 6.5 and DarkStone Android ) connected to the Laptop and it would be great if I can just connect it to my laptop without choosing either of the three options
1. ActiveSync
2. USB Storage Mode
3. Internet Sharing
P.S : I did lot of search for this option but was unable to find it and hence started this thread...but I will be more than happy if anyone can redirect me to an existing thread if any, for the same issue.
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Better use the active sync or the mass storage mode..As it is you wont be needing to install apps on your memory card thanks to the massive storage of the HD2 compared to the older WM devices...This shouldn't be a problem IMHO...
Cheers.

Ive got a really easy fix for this, just use a different cable, you can get cables or adaptors that will charge only and wont sync. When you want to sync just change the cable or take off the adaptor.
btw... such an adaptor is only £2.50 from amazon for my phone

bamit99 said:
...it would be great if I can just connect it to my laptop without choosing either of the three options
1. ActiveSync
2. USB Storage Mode
3. Internet Sharing
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This doesn't stop the action as such, but when you connect your phone to PC, with the 3 options you listed, there should be a a check box at the bottom "Don't ask me again", so whatever you choose will automatically happen next time (choosing USB storage will therefore not ativate ActiveSync/Device Centre on your PC. This can also be found under Settings->Other (miscellaneous settings)->USB to PC (see attachment).
Or, just use a wall socket charger?

Hi,
Thanks for your replies ! The reason I asked this question is because I do not have a Data Plan on Phone. I only use Wifi at home and office and Active Sync kills it. Data storage mode won't let me use the Storage which I kinda need (Don't ask me why? ) and ofcourse Internet sharing Mode just sends the phone into a crazy 'Connecting 3G Network'...loop.
Anyways, I think using the Charge Only Cable should do the trick for now..But I still feel that this mode will be helpful for few rares like me...Love tis mode in Android.

bamit99 said:
Hi,
Thanks for your replies ! The reason I asked this question is because I do not have a Data Plan on Phone. I only use Wifi at home and office and Active Sync kills it. Data storage mode won't let me use the Storage which I kinda need (Don't ask me why? ) and ofcourse Internet sharing Mode just sends the phone into a crazy 'Connecting 3G Network'...loop.
Anyways, I think using the Charge Only Cable should do the trick for now..But I still feel that this mode will be helpful for few rares like me...Love tis mode in Android.
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ActiveSync does not kill my Wifi - make sure the 'Allow wireless connections on device...' is checked under File->Connections Settings. Also ActiveSync should allow your phone to use your PC's internet connection (pass through) anyway.
The other thing to try is to delete the mobile device from within ActiveSsync as if you've never synced it before and when you next connect it it will ask you to set up a relationship but click cancel and - viola - should now just charge.

agrickard said:
ActiveSync does not kill my Wifi - make sure the 'Allow wireless connections on device...' is checked under File->Connections Settings. Also ActiveSync should allow your phone to use your PC's internet connection (pass through) anyway.
The other thing to try is to delete the mobile device from within ActiveSsync as if you've never synced it before and when you next connect it it will ask you to set up a relationship but click cancel and - viola - should now just charge.
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No "Allow Wireless Connection on Device" option. I am using Windows 7.. Not sure if it is present in WMDC.
ActiveSync Passthrough does not work..I am on a encrypted network with authentication based Proxies..whole bunch of them.....
I do not want to kill the ActiveSync relationship since it syncs everything with my PC.
I think I am bothering a lot over this stupid requirement.. so I will just close this thread (If I can) but if I find anything I will post it here, for someone else who might be in similar situation.
Thanks anyways...XDA rocks !!!
Similar issue like mine
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http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...ync-connection-blocking-wireless-connections/

IPod` or Android WiFi Adapteer for PC - no thether

What I neeed is is an iphone or an android device to acts a wifi adapter/dongle so I can view a list of available access points on my computer and connect to them.
Does this make sense?
I'm sure this is possible.
Does anyone have any idea?
Ay help help? Thanks!!

houseonfire said:
What I neeed is is an iphone or an android device to acts a wifi adapter/dongle so I can view a list of available access points on my computer and connect to them.
Does this make sense?
I'm sure this is possible.
Does anyone have any idea?
Ay help help? Thanks!!
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What exactly are you trying to do?
Are you trying to tether your computer through your phone (i.e. connect the computer to the phone via USB cable, and then use the phone's WiFi / 3G connection on your computer)?
Or just use the phone as a wifi finder (which seems odd because if your computer has WiFi then it should be able to see the access points on its own..)?
I'll assume you're going for the first one because the second one doesn't make any sense. You should search the forum for "USB tether" .. although since you're asking for iPhone or android, it seems like you don't have a device yet...

mdizzlew said:
What exactly are you trying to do?
Are you trying to tether your computer through your phone (i.e. connect the computer to the phone via USB cable, and then use the phone's WiFi / 3G connection on your computer)?
Or just use the phone as a wifi finder (which seems odd because if your computer has WiFi then it should be able to see the access points on its own..)?
I'll assume you're going for the first one because the second one doesn't make any sense. You should search the forum for "USB tether" .. although since you're asking for iPhone or android, it seems like you don't have a device yet...
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I have no WiFi adapter. I want to use an android/iPod as a wifi adapter so I can see possible connections listed on the PC (providided by the ipod or android device)..
I build a WiFi antenna that i want to put the device in, i hook the phone/ipod to the computer, then on the computer i find the best wifi point to connect to and connect to it.
I dont want to see the listings for the access points on the device, i want to see and connect to the listings on my computer.

Shameless bump.
I basically want my old android phone or old iPod touch to act as a wifi adapter. That's it.

You mean a hotspot?

lock and unlock Windows via Bluetooth

Hi there,
there are tools out there to lock your Windows when bluetooth connection to a device is lost and unlock when its established again.
That would be a nice feature for the Smartwatch (better than mobilephone) because its always with me.
I cant connect the watch via Bluetooth to the pc.
Any ideas how to do this.
Maybe we have a good app-developer here
Thanks alot!!
Daniel

I am quite lost with your approach.
Anyways, if you are looking for a tool that keeps your phone unlocked when it is connected to the watch. Try PhoneLocator
Sent via Phone.

I think he wants to lock a PC with windows...
you can't do this because it doesn't exist an app to conect both etc...

sowed said:
I think he wants to lock a PC with windows...
you can't do this because it doesn't exist an app to conect both etc...
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Yes thats what i mean. If the bluetooth connecton to the pc is lost (out of reach) it locks itself. Back to the pc it unlocks. There are tools for windows you can realize that with a mobile phone. But i often leave it at the desk. The watch is always with me.
The problem is i cant connect the watch to the pc.
Sorry if the first post was misleading.
Is there any possibility to get the watch connected to a pc. More is not needed to realize this.
Thx.

painkillerde said:
Yes thats what i mean. If the bluetooth connecton to the pc is lost (out of reach) it locks itself. Back to the pc it unlocks. There are tools for windows you can realize that with a mobile phone. But i often leave it at the desk. The watch is always with me.
The problem is i cant connect the watch to the pc.
Sorry if the first post was misleading.
Is there any possibility to get the watch connected to a pc. More is not needed to realize this.
Thx.
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If you can't connect the watch to the PC, how a tool (if there is one) will know that the watch is connected and perform an action. Logically and programmatically, is impossible.
Secondly, why such watch should be connectable to a PC? it wasn't made for this purpose.

iT iS Me said:
If you can't connect the watch to the PC, how a tool (if there is one) will know that the watch is connected and perform an action. Logically and programmatically, is impossible.
Secondly, why such watch should be connectable to a PC? it wasn't made for this purpose.
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I see what you mean. But isnt xda a developer Forum too? Maybe MAYBE its possible to make an app that could make the watch connectable to a PC via bluetooth or the watch os itself.
Its just an idea - im not a developer and i dont know about what is possible and what is not. But its an android running on the watch and we are in a developer forum so why not!!
I would like this feature...

Technically it should be possible but it may not be worth the effort. I think the Windows program would have to try to connect every minute or every 30 seconds and lock the screen if it cannot. Then keep scanning to unlock when it can connect.

That would be so cool! If only the watch worked with a computer.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000).

badplanet said:
Technically it should be possible but it may not be worth the effort. I think the Windows program would have to try to connect every minute or every 30 seconds and lock the screen if it cannot. Then keep scanning to unlock when it can connect.
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The software is ready to go - the problem is to connect the watch. Sadly...
http://www.howtogeek.com/67556/how-to-unlock-your-pc-by-being-nearby-with-a-bluetooth-phone/

badplanet said:
Technically it should be possible but it may not be worth the effort. I think the Windows program would have to try to connect every minute or every 30 seconds and lock the screen if it cannot. Then keep scanning to unlock when it can connect.
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There is a Windows tool 'BtProx', which can lock the PC when the bluetooth device is disconnected. I used this with hands free headset.
However, as mentioned earlier if Windows cannot see the watch, how the application will act??!
BtProx
http://btprox.sourceforge.net/
Sent via Phone.

painkillerde said:
The software is ready to go - the problem is to connect the watch. Sadly...
http://www.howtogeek.com/67556/how-to-unlock-your-pc-by-being-nearby-with-a-bluetooth-phone/
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I love this idea, totally useful. Isn't the problem really on the watch side though? It will only pair with one device at a time (the phone) and then is no longer visible. On the PC side just being able to see the watch would trigger the unlock, no need to actually pair. I am probably missing something as I am not a developer.
Fred

ffarber said:
I love this idea, totally useful. Isn't the problem really on the watch side though? It will only pair with one device at a time (the phone) and then is no longer visible. On the PC side just being able to see the watch would trigger the unlock, no need to actually pair. I am probably missing something as I am not a developer.
Fred
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Yes I also think something like a ping would be enough - but it seems the Lock/Unlock Software wants a paired device and the watch isn´t visible after pairing with the phone.
So it seems we have no option to get it work.

painkillerde said:
Yes I also think something like a ping would be enough - but it seems the Lock/Unlock Software wants a paired device and the watch isn´t visible after pairing with the phone.
So it seems we have no option to get it work.
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Don't give up so fast. I think there might be a way...
How about if the unlock software would unlock the PC when the phone was connected but only if the watch was connected to the phone? That would probably take a small amount of coding on the Android side to inform the PC whether the watch were connected or not. This way both the phone and watch would have to be connected to their respective pairings. I think it still solves your problem of walking away from your desk and the phone which would lock the PC and when you brought the watch back the PC would unlock.
Do you think the PC lock software folks would be interested in such a scheme? Have you been in contact with them? This would work for all types of smartwatches with only coding done on the phone and PC.
Cheers,
Fred

Yeeeeehaaaaa
ffarber said:
Don't give up so fast. I think there might be a way...
How about if the unlock software would unlock the PC when the phone was connected but only if the watch was connected to the phone? That would probably take a small amount of coding on the Android side to inform the PC whether the watch were connected or not. This way both the phone and watch would have to be connected to their respective pairings. I think it still solves your problem of walking away from your desk and the phone which would lock the PC and when you brought the watch back the PC would unlock.
Do you think the PC lock software folks would be interested in such a scheme? Have you been in contact with them? This would work for all types of smartwatches with only coding done on the phone and PC.
Cheers,
Fred
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GOT IT
I give me the needed idea.
You need
Tasker + Secure Settings + your Mobile.
Mobile is connected via bluetooth to PC. Software locks on connection lost to mobile.
Now i made a task which disconnects the bluetooth connection to PC when connection to the watch is lost. -> PC locked
You may also use the notification message of the Smartwatch - try it later.
An other task reconnects the mobile to PC when watch reconnects to mobile. -> PC unlocks but it takes a little time (but for me the lock was the important thing).
If you take away your mobile it also locks the PC. What more do you want!!!!
I would say - Mission accomplished...good:
Now its time to play arround with tasker a little bit more :fingers-crossed:

Damn it was tricking me. the Phone reconnects after a few seconds so the lock timer has to be extrem short ... working on it
Any ideas how to prevent autoconnect to the Computer but stay paired?

painkillerde said:
Damn it was tricking me. the Phone reconnects after a few seconds so the lock timer has to be extrem short ... working on it
Any ideas how to prevent autoconnect to the Computer but stay paired?
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I am not sure what you mean. When does the phone reconnect when you don;t want it to? Seems like your idea should work. I am not a tasker user but are there any timer tasks built into it that would stop the unintended activity for a period of time?
Fred

ffarber said:
I am not sure what you mean. When does the phone reconnect when you don;t want it to? Seems like your idea should work. I am not a tasker user but are there any timer tasks built into it that would stop the unintended activity for a period of time?
Fred
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When the watch disconnects it triggers the disconnect (via tasker) between mobile and computer but the mobile connects again after a few seconds. So btprox or btproximity (software im using to lock the pc when bluetooth disconnects) has not enough time to lock. I have to set the interval btprox looks for the connection to under 10 sec. Thats to short and i think it will give bigger battery drain on the mobile.
So i need a way preventing the mobile from reconnecting again to the pc unless the watch is reconnected. but this seems harder than i thought.
Played a lot arround with tasker - even tried t find a way to send a cmd to the pc and lock it over command line when watch is out of reach from mobile. so i could use this way if watch is away from pc and the "bluetooth out of reach" way when mobile is away. but i didnt found an app to use with tasker which is able to do so.
But after getting so far i wont give up

painkillerde said:
When the watch disconnects it triggers the disconnect (via tasker) between mobile and computer but the mobile connects again after a few seconds. So btprox or btproximity (software im using to lock the pc when bluetooth disconnects) has not enough time to lock. I have to set the interval btprox looks for the connection to under 10 sec. Thats to short and i think it will give bigger battery drain on the mobile.
So i need a way preventing the mobile from reconnecting again to the pc unless the watch is reconnected. but this seems harder than i thought.
Played a lot arround with tasker - even tried t find a way to send a cmd to the pc and lock it over command line when watch is out of reach from mobile. so i could use this way if watch is away from pc and the "bluetooth out of reach" way when mobile is away. but i didnt found an app to use with tasker which is able to do so.
But after getting so far i wont give up
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Well, I am not a tasker user but I do use an old app I started using years ago named Settings Profile (I have no idea if you can still download it). SP has variable time delays between actions so you could turn off bluetooth on the phone for a minute (or as long as you think you need to wait) after the watch disconnected and then turn bluetooth back on so that the phone would reconnect to the PC while you were gone and then when you got back the watch would reconnect to the phone and all would be good. Tasker seems like it has way more capability than my old app (that I am too lazy to change). I am sure buried somewhere in Tasker is a delay you could use like that.
Let me know if you get it to work and maybe I will make the leap, though I am sure I have better things to do with my time than get lost in Tasker
Fred

ffarber said:
Well, I am not a tasker user but I do use an old app I started using years ago named Settings Profile (I have no idea if you can still download it). SP has variable time delays between actions so you could turn off bluetooth on the phone for a minute (or as long as you think you need to wait) after the watch disconnected and then turn bluetooth back on so that the phone would reconnect to the PC while you were gone and then when you got back the watch would reconnect to the phone and all would be good. Tasker seems like it has way more capability than my old app (that I am too lazy to change). I am sure buried somewhere in Tasker is a delay you could use like that.
Let me know if you get it to work and maybe I will make the leap, though I am sure I have better things to do with my time than get lost in Tasker
Fred
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Disable bluetooth would work but i dont like this option - i did it an other way.
I got it Working now with "Remote Launcher"+"Tasker".
Made a task locking the PC via Remote Launcher if watch disconnects from Mobile after 30 seconds.
If Mobile disconnects bt from PC the btprox software locks the PC.
Not exactly what i want but works...
Unlocking seems to be not possible...

ffarber said:
I love this idea, totally useful. Isn't the problem really on the watch side though? It will only pair with one device at a time (the phone) and then is no longer visible. On the PC side just being able to see the watch would trigger the unlock, no need to actually pair. I am probably missing something as I am not a developer.
Fred
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While this is an old thread here a small hint:
There is a Win Software "BTProximity" that will lock / unlock the PC when discovering a BT device with a given BT address - without the need for actually ever pairing the bt device with the PC.
This approach should work just fine with every BT enabled smartwatch. Unfortunately I am not yet allowed to post links here. Google for "guidingtech auto lock win 8 bluetooth" ... the first result will link you to the tool.
Comments appreciated.

How to set up the wired USB LAN adaptor?

Now I want to use a wired USB LAN adaptor on my S4 to access the wired network. However, after I insert the USB LAN adaptor, it powers up but cannot connect to the LAN. There is no connection. How should I set up? Thanks.

love to help.
I would love to help.. but I need a little more information first... like what android version ie. 4.4.2. (Found in Settings.apk under 'about phone'.)
Second which type of Computer are you trying to utilize? Like Windows 7 Home Premium or Mac OSX leopard/snow leopard. Or even Linux like redhat or Gnome.. this will allow me to rule out software/hardware issues and focus on the exact circumstances your in.. thx bud.

Daisflaque said:
I would love to help.. but I need a little more information first... like what android version ie. 4.4.2. (Found in Settings.apk under 'about phone'.)
Second which type of Computer are you trying to utilize? Like Windows 7 Home Premium or Mac OSX leopard/snow leopard. Or even Linux like redhat or Gnome.. this will allow me to rule out software/hardware issues and focus on the exact circumstances your in.. thx bud.
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He's trying to connect his phone to the network with a USB ethernet adapter.... I think you completely missed the point of the post.

Well if so thanks for the info.. I was simply trying to narrow down the source. In which way did it seem as though I missed the point? The point was he/she had trouble with their phone connecting to a network.. right? Well in my experience.. most home networks are routed through a PC.. so my obvious conclusion was the other end like not the phone... idk I'm kinda new here and am doing my best.. lol anyway thx.