2A Car Charger for Desire - Desire Accessories

Hi Guys,
Saw this 2A car charger for HTC Desire, thought I'll post it here and ask everyone if this will work well with HTC Desire. I dont want to damage my new Desire by buying something that kills it.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300435508442&_trksid=p2759.l1259
Let me know your comments.
Cheers!!

Amps are not pushed to the phone from the power source,
They are pulled by the phone, from the power source.
Therefore the phone will only request what it needs, IE you cant overload it.
Voltage on the other hand will!
So to answer your question,
it will be ok.
Fon22

Fon22 said:
Amps are not pushed to the phone from the power source,
They are pulled by the phone, from the power source.
Therefore the phone will only request what it needs, IE you cant overload it.
Voltage on the other hand will!
So to answer your question,
it will be ok.
Fon22
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Thanks Fon22. pardon my lack of knowledge , so what diff will a 700ma or 1000ma will have against 2A car charger ?? Any benefits ? or its better to buy a cheapo 2$ 700ma charger ?

WEll, it's best to get the charger that can deliver the most Amps. So if the phone needs it because you're using GPS and music and what have you - then the amps will be available instead of the phone consumes more battery than it gets from the charger.
So get the one with the biggest Amp spec - but still 12 volts

Thanks guys.
And If I am not wrong , It should work with HTC Desire as well (it is being advertised as being Touch HD)..
Cheers!

Smirge said:
So get the one with the biggest Amp spec - but still 12 volts
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I know you're referring to the source (input) voltage, but just incase it confuses someone, you want the OUTPUT voltage of the charger to be 5V. Output voltage of 12V would almost certainly do damage as the stock charger and USB spec are at 5V +/- nominal tolerances.
Amps though, yes. Preferable to have something which can deliver at least 1A.

That is correct - the INPUT is 12V as per the car battery, but the OUTPUT should be no more than 5V - thank's for clearing that up

1A is enough.
It's another important thing to this.
I tried to explain the issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6863243&postcount=24
I hope my english is ok.
Edit:
Same info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6443313&postcount=18

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2A carcharger possible

Hi all,
Maybe a stupid question but I simply don't no the answer
Is it possible to use a 2A car charger for the TP (with a 1340 mAh battery)?
I found one on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/2000mA-USB-Car-C...ryZ67832QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Is the TP protected for overload?
aaswouw said:
Hi all,
Maybe a stupid question but I simply don't no the answer
Is it possible to use a 2A car charger for the TP (with a 1340 mAh battery)?
I found one on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/2000mA-USB-Car-C...ryZ67832QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Is the TP protected for overload?
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Only one way to find out. Wanna be the the guinea pig ? XD
I think it doesn't care, because there is an charge electronic in the mobile which regulate the charge current.
Maybe your charger can charge by 2A but the mobile will consume just 1A.
By the way: I've got a charger with 0.5A (not original from HTC) which doesn't work with the mobile at all.
with my mp3-player there is no problem.
Lol, it does not work that way with amps, although it DOES work that way with voltage ! if you put to many volts in you will damage your device, however if it is the correct voltage but very high amps your device will be fine, all that will happen is the device will take the current it wants and just leave the rest. infact if you have enough current (as in this case) you could charge two devices simultaneously, and they will both charge as quickly as when on the supplied home charger.
basically what doc said above !
Thanks for the input! Glad that 2A won't affect my TP.
Too bad though that TP won't charge with double speed (2A instead of 1A). Full in just half an hour would have been great...

[Q] HTC sensation charging with cigaretlighter on motorcycle

Hi
I'm having a problem with charging my HTC devices on my Honda Fireblade.
My motorcycle dealer added a cigaretlighter so I can charge the HTC while driving and using it as GPS.
The problem is that the Sensation (and even my Desire HD or HD2) won't charge although the indicator light on the charger is on. So I've tested the charger with other equiment and it works.
Does anyone knows what can be the problem? The battery of the Honda is 12V
thx for any advise!
What is the charger output?
It should have 5V and 1A or 2A. If voltage lower, it will not charge..
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naimmkassim said:
What is the charger output?
It should have 5V and 1A or 2A. If voltage lower, it will not charge..
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I use this charger also in the car and there it works.
I bought this charger when I was on a trip and it's original for nokia
He's right, your charger probably doesn't have enough output. I noticed that certain house chargers I already had were charging the phone extremely slow and others charged the phone quickly. That's when I noticed that the ones that charged the phone quickly were 5v and had at least 1A. The ones that were less were too low of an output to charge the phone properly. You're more than likely experiencing the same thing. I'm willing to bet if you check what the output is on the charger you're using you'll probably see it either isn't the right voltage or the amps are too low...or both.
mysterioustko said:
He's right, your charger probably doesn't have enough output. I noticed that certain house chargers I already had were charging the phone extremely slow and others charged the phone quickly. That's when I noticed that the ones that charged the phone quickly were 5v and had at least 1A. The ones that were less were too low of an output to charge the phone properly. You're more than likely experiencing the same thing. I'm willing to bet if you check what the output is on the charger you're using you'll probably see it either isn't the right voltage or the amps are too low...or both.
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All right, I'll check it first....it's in the car now
The nokia charger is
input 12 V
output 5V - 550mA
So you guys are right....it still doesn't explain to me why the charger works in car and not on motorcycle. Maybe because the battery output in car is higher A?
I'm not into electrical stuff :-(
So, if I order for example this one....it could work on my motorbike?
http://www.netimes.com/shop/usb-car...ung-galaxy-tab-p1000-p-3018.html?cPath=80_818
tsmetjen said:
The nokia charger is
input 12 V
output 5V - 550mA
So you guys are right....it still doesn't explain to me why the charger works in car and not on motorcycle. Maybe because the battery output in car is higher A?
I'm not into electrical stuff :-(
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Bear in mind I'm just speculating with this but your car's cigarette lighter may be putting out more power than your motorcycle's (especially since it wasn't original). Also though it may have been charging in your car, that doesn't mean it was charging at the rate it should have been (it might have been barely charging). Sort of like what I was saying I had experienced when I used a lower output charger (the really slow charging).
Yeah that looks ok. I'd imagine that you be sufficient.
The charger I have is a Nokia DC-4. Bought from Nokia themselves as lots of shops sell copies. The copies don't seem to have the right electronics in them to power the more expensive (read: power hungry) phones. I have to have a converter on the end to go to micro-usb (also a Nokia part) but it means we can also use it for the wife's Nokia.
I'd make sure you went genuine part, or at least one that someone else says works.
Dave
tsmetjen said:
So, if I order for example this one....it could work on my motorbike?
http://www.netimes.com/shop/usb-car...ung-galaxy-tab-p1000-p-3018.html?cPath=80_818
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It should be working. But better you try it first, borrow from a friend that have this charger and try it on your motobike. If still not working. My conclusion is that your motobike most probabily produce a low voltage or current than what it were suppose to.
tsmetjen said:
So, if I order for example this one....it could work on my motorbike?
http://www.netimes.com/shop/usb-car...ung-galaxy-tab-p1000-p-3018.html?cPath=80_818
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I've received the charger. Did a test last night and test....failed. Still not charging.
So :
could it ba the usb cable itself?
can I measure the output current on my bike?
I'm with stupid on these matters, and my mecancic is on holiday

How to mod charging cable for fast charge?

Hi!
Have 3A charger for car (like this) and i want to get maximum power and charging speed. As i know, if i use simple usb cable, phone will get only 500mA.
How to force it to use more power? Or it use it by default, without any mods?
Found this mod for HTC, and this for Nexus 7, does it will work?
pokatusher said:
Hi!
Have 3A charger for car (like this) and i want to get maximum power and charging speed. As i know, if i use simple usb cable, phone will get only 500mA.
How to force it to use more power? Or it use it by default, without any mods?
Found this mod for HTC, and this for Nexus 7, does it will work?
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I think the mod (shorting the data lines) should work, but just make sure that the charger is actually capable of delivering the right amperage.
whoa, u really wanna do that, coz the wont hold for a long time, 3A really a big current
syahazu said:
whoa, u really wanna do that, coz the wont hold for a long time, 3A really a big current
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As of my understanding you are trying to say that charging the battery at 3A would give shorter batterylife.
Would you kindly post in a way readable for humans to make your meaning clear, as your post as quoted here was a struggle to understand.
And for complying to USB standards the device is probably able to output 2A on one of the ports and 1A on the other, totalling in a amperage of 3A. Now as I took a look at the adapter and it's specifications, it seems to me that it is just a 7805 voltage regulator in an enclosure, which I honestly wouldn't trust even a little bit.
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velihukka said:
it seems to me that it is just a 7805 voltage regulator in an enclosure, which I honestly wouldn't trust even a little bit.
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I'm not enough of a techie to confirm or deny if this would work, but I do agree with Velihukka... I got a bad feeling about this...
You do realise to get thing working properly you'd need to wire a new 12V circuit into your car's switchbox right? You don't want to be pulling an extra 3A out of a random 12V line in your car, a lot of your internal electrics are only running 10A fuses.
If you don't smoke, you could use the line powering your cigarette lighter... but then that would beg the question, why not just use a 12V USB adaptor that can output 3A and short the data terminals?
sorry 4 my english mate, im still improving it.. yup, i think that can do, but depends on you... i would rather use 2a current output charger... i hope my batttery would last longer lifetime when i used it
You should simply go for this
http://www.belkin.com/in/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=735847
It will cost you around 400 bucks for 2.1 Amp socket in your local car accessories market
And then use your data cable to charge your phone...
Sent from Sony Xperia ZL 4.3 Rooted
pokatusher said:
Hi!
Have 3A charger for car (like this) and i want to get maximum power and charging speed. As i know, if i use simple usb cable, phone will get only 500mA.
How to force it to use more power? Or it use it by default, without any mods?
Found this mod for HTC, and this for Nexus 7, does it will work?
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It wont work at all for xperia z. i am an hardware tester and i am sure any mods to hack battery life or charging it fast will destroy your battery.
You cannot force more power into the battery. The phone has circuitry that regulates the charging current, which will have upper and lower limits. If that upper limit is say 2A, it doesn't matter if you plug into a 2A power supply or a 50A supply, it will still only draw 2A.
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The phones circuitry charges the phone by 500mAh by unnamed or unknown usb cable. when you plug it to a sony cable it will give you "fast charge" so it charges with 900-1000mAh. So yeah, there is something in the cable that makes it different from the other ones.
Try it with your sony cable and you get max amperage, and yeah no point forcing a million amps to it when the phone just takes what it needs.
pokatusher said:
Hi!
Have 3A charger for car (like this) and i want to get maximum power and charging speed. As i know, if i use simple usb cable, phone will get only 500mA.
How to force it to use more power? Or it use it by default, without any mods?
Found this mod for HTC, and this for Nexus 7, does it will work?
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Xz has battery monitor and its the thing that none can bypass. Also everytime the device heats up the amperage going in the battery gets more limited or even depleting...
Defects or flaw I'm not sure, but thats just it with Xz

Need specific Car charger if anyone can help

I'm looking for a Car charger that can fast charge the V10 and also had a 1 amp output. Has anyone seen anything like this? All the dual car chargers I have seen that offer QC 2.0 have a second port that is 2 amps. I want to charge my phone and power my electronic cigarette that gets hot when using a 2 amp output.
Thanks
Get this one. Very good. Quick charge 2.0 on one then the other slot provides 2.4amp output for universal any device and even tablet could charge off it as well.
wadamean said:
Get this one. Very good. Quick charge 2.0 on one then the other slot provides 2.4amp output for universal any device and even tablet could charge off it as well.
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Did you read what I wrote? I specifically need one with a low amp second output as my electronic cigarette will not tolerate two amps.
robl45 said:
Did you read what I wrote? I specifically need one with a low amp second output as my electronic cigarette will not tolerate two amps.
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Reason why I posted it, having read very well the op, I was having same issue and got this one which surprisingly works in my car.
I have the same one and it works without any problems. Perhaps you (OP) could reply in a better way instead of being snippy, he really did give you a good suggestion of what to get.
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wadamean said:
Get this one. Very good. Quick charge 2.0 on one then the other slot provides 2.4amp output for universal any device and even tablet could charge off it as well.
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howdyace said:
I have the same one and it works without any problems. Perhaps you (OP) could reply in a better way instead of being snippy, he really did give you a good suggestion of what to get.
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I'm sure it does work great, but i posted because I have a specific need and was hoping someone might know of a charger that could fill that need.
You won't find one. If it has QC , it will output more then 1a.
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Look at Anker products, I have their "smart" charger. It adjusts to what is needed and supports quick change.
Regardless of smart or not, the device requiring the power will dictate how much amperage it draws unless charger or device is faulty up to the maximum available via the charger. Perhaps your ecig is very basic and is really meant to be used with a pc usb that doesn't supply more than 500mA and doesn't have the ic circuitry to cut and control it's own intake..
Like it has been mentioned for a charger to supply qc 2.0 it has to be rated at 1.8mA minimum, so most will be 2mA~
I spend a lot of time looking at chargers and havent seen any single that meets your requirements. I'd suggest getting a socket splitter and using two small chargers. One older 500-900mA and another qc 2.0.
get this one... 2.1 and 1A ports..
I wouldn't recommend anything but the cars port for the cig lighter.
Reason is, anything else that you plug that lighter into will be made partially out of plastic and will more than likely melt as the lighter heats up.
OP needs a lower output ( 1 Amp-500mA) to charge an electronic cigarette/vape mod and is not using the actual cigarette lighter. Honestly I would just advise that you remove the battery from your mod to charge because typically when mods fail it is either because a battery is being over-discharged (user error or mechanical short) or the IC circuitry fails causing the battery to vent. Charging your IMR batts in a dedicated charger tends to promote better daily use and overall extended life cycle. If you are still limited to keeping the battery installed in your mod while charging, is QC absolutely necessary? I personally have not ran into an issue topping off using a standard charger while driving.
EDIT: I thought the flux capacitor was a joke but looked it up and it actually fits your needs..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Help needed with AC Adapters - Any Electricians here?

Hello everyone,
I was hoping there might be a smart electrician on here that can help me out.
I need to verify if an AC Adapter will work for my device. The device does not have any specs on it.
The only thing I have to go by is what the old adapter says on its label.
Take a look at the two pics - old and new and let me know if the new one will work for my device.
From what I've been reading, I need to match the output of the adapter to the input of the device.
So with the outputs of both adapters being somewhat close, I wasnt sure if it would fry my device or will it work.
The plug does fit into the device. If this new one wont work, I will have to order a new one.
I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks
Old Adapter
Input: AC 100-240V, 120mA 50-60Hz
Output: DC 5.3V, 500mA - ---- +
New Adapter
Input: AC 100-240V, 120mA 50-60Hz
Output: DC 5.0V, 1.0A - ---- +
If it fits you can try it. Never heard of somethinf being fried that fitted. But from looks of it it should charge twice as fast. 500 differnce to old
djhulk2 said:
If it fits you can try it. Never heard of somethinf being fried that fitted. But from looks of it it should charge twice as fast. 500 differnce to old
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Thanks for the reply. It adapter does fit the device.
I was worried about what you said... the Amps. Because its double what the original was.
There is no charging on this device though. it only powers it to run.
My colleague just got in and said it should work. But he's 90% sure. There is only two of these devices in the world... so I dont want to blow it!
Thanks appreciate it much!
deviouskind said:
Thanks for the reply. It adapter does fit the device.
I was worried about what you said... the Amps. Because its double what the original was.
There is no charging on this device though. it only powers it to run.
My colleague just got in and said it should work. But he's 90% sure. There is only two of these devices in the world... so I dont want to blow it!
Thanks appreciate it much!
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To keep things safe, I went ahead and ordered a new charger.
I'm still curious to know if it would work or not. Or if it's a 50.50 chance.
Thanks a bunch!
I would be more concerned about the voltage difference than the amperage rating. A lot of electronics would probably be able to tolerate a 0.3V variance without ill effects, but that will not always be the case.
The amperage rating is not a problem, as it's just a measure of the adapter's output current capacity. The actual current it supplies is a matter of the device's demand. If the device only draws 500mA, the adapter will only supply 500mA. The fact that it could supply up to 1A won't be a problem.
As theophile2 stated, there is no need to worry about the higher current rating. The adapter is a constant voltage source and the device being charged draws the current it's been designed for. The polarity looks to the same so as long as it makes contact properly it's good.
For the voltage being 5.3V vs the standard 5V you see mostly now, I don't think there's an issue there to use 5V. I think companies would use 5.3V to account for voltage drop due to the resistance of the cable. There will always be some tolerance built in the design of a minimum 5%-10% voltage swing for normal operation. That being said, if you're not comfortable using it, I'd recommend not to and save yourself the worry especially since you already bought another.
Now that we have USB charging standards of 5V it makes sense to have the wall adapter designed the same and account for this in the circuit design. Smaller IC's nowadays are more frequently being run off 3.3V LDO regulators anyway.
Lastly what sort of device is this?? Is the Nokia charger the original charger?

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