Hi
I'm having a problem with charging my HTC devices on my Honda Fireblade.
My motorcycle dealer added a cigaretlighter so I can charge the HTC while driving and using it as GPS.
The problem is that the Sensation (and even my Desire HD or HD2) won't charge although the indicator light on the charger is on. So I've tested the charger with other equiment and it works.
Does anyone knows what can be the problem? The battery of the Honda is 12V
thx for any advise!
What is the charger output?
It should have 5V and 1A or 2A. If voltage lower, it will not charge..
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naimmkassim said:
What is the charger output?
It should have 5V and 1A or 2A. If voltage lower, it will not charge..
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I use this charger also in the car and there it works.
I bought this charger when I was on a trip and it's original for nokia
He's right, your charger probably doesn't have enough output. I noticed that certain house chargers I already had were charging the phone extremely slow and others charged the phone quickly. That's when I noticed that the ones that charged the phone quickly were 5v and had at least 1A. The ones that were less were too low of an output to charge the phone properly. You're more than likely experiencing the same thing. I'm willing to bet if you check what the output is on the charger you're using you'll probably see it either isn't the right voltage or the amps are too low...or both.
mysterioustko said:
He's right, your charger probably doesn't have enough output. I noticed that certain house chargers I already had were charging the phone extremely slow and others charged the phone quickly. That's when I noticed that the ones that charged the phone quickly were 5v and had at least 1A. The ones that were less were too low of an output to charge the phone properly. You're more than likely experiencing the same thing. I'm willing to bet if you check what the output is on the charger you're using you'll probably see it either isn't the right voltage or the amps are too low...or both.
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All right, I'll check it first....it's in the car now
The nokia charger is
input 12 V
output 5V - 550mA
So you guys are right....it still doesn't explain to me why the charger works in car and not on motorcycle. Maybe because the battery output in car is higher A?
I'm not into electrical stuff :-(
So, if I order for example this one....it could work on my motorbike?
http://www.netimes.com/shop/usb-car...ung-galaxy-tab-p1000-p-3018.html?cPath=80_818
tsmetjen said:
The nokia charger is
input 12 V
output 5V - 550mA
So you guys are right....it still doesn't explain to me why the charger works in car and not on motorcycle. Maybe because the battery output in car is higher A?
I'm not into electrical stuff :-(
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Bear in mind I'm just speculating with this but your car's cigarette lighter may be putting out more power than your motorcycle's (especially since it wasn't original). Also though it may have been charging in your car, that doesn't mean it was charging at the rate it should have been (it might have been barely charging). Sort of like what I was saying I had experienced when I used a lower output charger (the really slow charging).
Yeah that looks ok. I'd imagine that you be sufficient.
The charger I have is a Nokia DC-4. Bought from Nokia themselves as lots of shops sell copies. The copies don't seem to have the right electronics in them to power the more expensive (read: power hungry) phones. I have to have a converter on the end to go to micro-usb (also a Nokia part) but it means we can also use it for the wife's Nokia.
I'd make sure you went genuine part, or at least one that someone else says works.
Dave
tsmetjen said:
So, if I order for example this one....it could work on my motorbike?
http://www.netimes.com/shop/usb-car...ung-galaxy-tab-p1000-p-3018.html?cPath=80_818
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It should be working. But better you try it first, borrow from a friend that have this charger and try it on your motobike. If still not working. My conclusion is that your motobike most probabily produce a low voltage or current than what it were suppose to.
tsmetjen said:
So, if I order for example this one....it could work on my motorbike?
http://www.netimes.com/shop/usb-car...ung-galaxy-tab-p1000-p-3018.html?cPath=80_818
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I've received the charger. Did a test last night and test....failed. Still not charging.
So :
could it ba the usb cable itself?
can I measure the output current on my bike?
I'm with stupid on these matters, and my mecancic is on holiday
Related
Hi!
Has anybody tried Gembird universal charger with Diamond ?
http://www.gmb-online.nl/eGMB/item_view.aspx?id=3315
Is the current of 500 mA enough for Diamond ?
i think you will find the output current too low to actually charge the Diamond.
The official HTC Car Charger has 2A output, the one you are looking at is 500mA...
mugglesquop said:
i think you will find the output current too low to actually charge the Diamond.
The official HTC Car Charger has 2A output, the one you are looking at is 500mA...
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Thank you!
That is what I thought, the current is too low...
charger
i have charger to my car with output 5.4v.
in the diamond book it is 5v.
both of them is 1A.
can i use it?
ami
500mA wont charge the Diamond -it wont even light it up!
Not very funny when you find that the 500mA car charger you used for years with no problem on other phones, wont charge your Diamond, and you end up lost, with no GPS and no phone - just a dead battery in the middle of the bloody countryside at night.
Take my word for it
PaulusUK said:
500mA wont charge the Diamond -it wont even light it up!
Not very funny when you find that the 500mA car charger you used for years with no problem on other phones, wont charge your Diamond, and you end up lost, with no GPS and no phone - just a dead battery in the middle of the bloody countryside at night.
Take my word for it
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500mAh will charge your phone, but under heavy use you may not get much of a charge. Your computer's usb ports will deliver up to 500mAh and will charge your phone.
I have two car chargers which output 1Ah. They work fine. I found one in the game accessories for the Nintendo DS.
ami12345 said:
i have charger to my car with output 5.4v.
in the diamond book it is 5v.
both of them is 1A.
can i use it?
ami
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Yes, you can use it. But the question is, "Should you use it?"
No, you should NOT use it. Current must be of a minimum value to work. Voltage must be a maximum to be safe.
Best not to chance burning out your phone unless you can test the charger output under load.
thank you very much.
i am going to buy new charger.
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500mAh will charge your phone
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I have a 500mA car adapter and mains plug which use a USB lead and non of these will get the phone to charge.
These work perfect with lots of other phones.
I have not tested them to check if they are actually supplying 500mA current, but I see your point about a USB PC port supplying 500mA
When using my Toch Diamond as a GPS which is connected to a car charger, the battery will run flat in a few hours. Is there a charger that will charge it with a higher current than 500mA? It is inconvenient for a long trip.
Wait ..... you are saying that your GPS app runs your battery down even while plugged in the car charger?
Mine doesn't do that...
yangys said:
Is there a charger that will charge it with a higher current than 500mA? It is inconvenient for a long trip.
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Are you using an original HTC charger?
Some of the generic after-market car chargers output a lower current than what the GPS is actually draining from the phone, so effectively, rather than just charging it, that charger is simply "extending" the time it takes to drain the phone battery.
I'm not near my HTC car charger at the moment, but if I remember correctly the HTC charger outputs 2A.. ie, 2000mA? (can someone correct me if I'm wrong?) And I have no flat battery problems while using TomTom... (The fone does get warm, but that 's another issue that's been discussed previously...........)
Most car chargers only do 500mA
When using good navigation it will pull more than 500mA off your phone, so eventually, the phone will drop dead It's true, I have this too.
With an other ROM it can be fixed! Now I don't have this problem anymore. You can also connect 2 chargers parallel but you got to have the possibility in your car. Or you buy a universal USB car charger which can handle 1A. Just like home wall charger (No 2000mA ).
Good luck!
My car chager (with a mini USB output plug) is rated at 5V 2A. My suspicion is that the charge current is determined by the phone, not by the charger. The charger is simply a (constant voltage) 5V power supply. Even if the chager is capable of supplying 2A, the charging circuit in the phone is limiting it to a maximum of 500mA. If the phone is designed clever enough, it could allow a higher charging current though signaling via the two signal wires of the USB plug. Would anyone know if this is the case or not for Touch Diamond? If yes, what would be the signals for higher charge current?
Your idea about using two chargers sounds interesting. Would you be able to give us more details about how to charge one phone with two chargers? Or are you thinking of having two phone and two chargers? That is, after one phone battery gets flat, simply uses another phone.
Riel said:
Most car chargers only do 500mA
When using good navigation it will pull more than 500mA off your phone, so eventually, the phone will drop dead It's true, I have this too.
With an other ROM it can be fixed! Now I don't have this problem anymore. You can also connect 2 chargers parallel but you got to have the possibility in your car. Or you buy a universal USB car charger which can handle 1A. Just like home wall charger (No 2000mA ).
Good luck!
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Confused
I have got an O2 Ignito (diamond) I have done an 8 hour round trip using GPS and my battery has not drained... And i do have the original I am using the charger that came with my polaris. my batt always stays full when plugged in and gps is running maybe your charger is what is causing it to drain
Regards
/KSPVs
Needs a 1 amp charger.
sorry for English not perfect. I am translating with google.
I have a car charger that marks OUTPUT 5V --- 650mA (max)
if i use this charger with the nexus one I run the risk of ruining the battery?
Or can I use it safely?
I think you will be alright in terms of damage, but you may want to look at a 1a charger or like a 900ma charger so that when you are using the GPS and all of that it can continue to charge instead of not being able to keep up with the draw from the device(what I am thinking will happen with the power output from the charger you mentioned.
I can try and better explain if I was too confusing, hope this helps
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Where have you guys been able to find an adequate charger for GPS and normal phone use? Ive had trouble with this.
manual, in specification, is written:
Charges at 480mA from USB, at 980mA from supplied charger
What does this mean?
So my 680mA working? or not?
It will charge. Just slowly. And if you are using gps or streaming audio it may not keep up.
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Where have you guys been able to find an adequate charger for GPS and normal phone use? Ive had trouble with this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666482
try nokia dc-10 1200 mah - can't beat that. Little on the expensive side but is retractable and looks great
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Dual-Charger-iPod-Black/dp/B001FB578I
the "quickcharge" port on it is 1a, the regular is 500mA.
--Daniel
thepawn said:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Dual-Charger-iPod-Black/dp/B001FB578I
the "quickcharge" port on it is 1a, the regular is 500mA.
--Daniel
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Hope it works better than the Belkin "Quick Charge" USB car charger my wife has for her iPhone, I don't get a quick charge on it on my Nexus One. Middle pins aren't shorted I presume.
I am going to buy a car charger for my new HOX, but it only has one 2.1A usb output. I know the charging current of the HOX wall charger is 1A, but I think 2.1A should work fine or even charge faster. But my concern is if the larger current would hurt my battery or shorten its lifetime.
Some ppl said the phone itself would take 1A current anyway due to some kind of threshold control inside, but I am not sure about it. So pls let me know if you know the truth. Appreciate it!
ps. I sent an email about this problem to HTC customer care 2 days ago but still no response yet. I will post the official answer when I get their answer.
UPDATE: Here is the official response from HTC about charging current, it seems that HOX does not intelligently control its charging current:
Dear yydnl,
Thanks for getting back to me, yydnl. The One X was designed with the intention of only using 5V 1A chargers. Anything more will cause damage to the phone over time. The phone was not designed to alter the current coming into the phone through the charger. I recommend that you only use the supplied HTC charger with your device.
Yeah I'd like to know. I never opened the oem charger and am currently using my bb playbook charger which shoots out 1.8A. I'm hoping the answer is no damage with a faster charge.
Yep, it'll work fine. Chargers don't "push" the charge, the phone pulls it. If the phone is only designed to charge at 1000ma, then it will only pull that current. So you could use a 10 amp charger and it will be fine, only difference is that with that high a capacity, you'll be able to charge 10 phones at the full charging rate. Changing the voltage, that's a different story.
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There is no problem of the voltage of the car charger because that is 5V as the oem charger, but do you know if HOX is designed to intelligently pull the proper amount of current? or will it take any current fed to it?
yydnl said:
There is no problem of the voltage of the car charger because that is 5V as the oem charger, but do you know if HOX is designed to intelligently pull the proper amount of current? or will it take any current fed to it?
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All Li-ion batteries have intelligent charging circuits. Otherwise, it will simply explode.
I won't worry about 2.1A at all. The problem is other way around, i.e. whether or not the phone will take more than 500ma from your 2.1A charger. It depends on how your charger is wired. If the phone only detects a generic USB connection, it will only charge max 500ma. It requires special wiring from the USB port to allow phone to switch to AC charging mode to draw more current. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell until you have the charger and try it out. One thing for sure, those chargers designed for iPhone/iPad typically won't be recorgnzied by other phones as AC chargers.
foxbat121 said:
All Li-ion batteries have intelligent charging circuits. Otherwise, it will simply explode.
I won't worry about 2.1A at all. The problem is other way around, i.e. whether or not the phone will take more than 500ma from your 2.1A charger. It depends on how your charger is wired. If the phone only detects a generic USB connection, it will only charge max 500ma. It requires special wiring from the USB port to allow phone to switch to AC charging mode to draw more current. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell until you have the charger and try it out. One thing for sure, those chargers designed for iPhone/iPad typically won't be recorgnzied by other phones as AC chargers.
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Gotcha, the car charger I am going to buy is for iphone, but it also claims to be able to charge phones of htc, sony etc. So I guess it is possible to have the ac charging detection.
yydnl said:
Gotcha, the car charger I am going to buy is for iphone, but it also claims to be able to charge phones of htc, sony etc. So I guess it is possible to have the ac charging detection.
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My money is on that it won't be recognized as AC charger. iPhone has special requirement on data PIN wiring that is not compatible with other phone. Yes, you can charge other phones but probably not at anything over 500ma.
Pls see my updates, it seems that 2.1A charger is not safe.
Gday All,
I realise that this topic has been mentioned in a few threads, but from what I could find, there is no definiteve fix.
Is there a way to disable this so that a non-genuine charger will work once the screen turns off, or if I was to root the device, is there then a way to do it.
Please dont flame me, I'm a total newb to android, and I dont mind admitting that.
Bit dissapointed that Samsung has sunk to this.
TIA!
Not sure what issues you are having but I have been using a few different chargers without issue. Which exact charging method are you trying to use (cable type, charger type, charger rated output voltage and amperage)?
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The problem isn't that the charger is 3rd party.
The problem is that the device requires a 5.1V 2A charger or higher.
Anything lower than that is simply not powerful enough. You can find these specs in small lettering on the charger. Most cheap 3rd party launchers are 5V 1A.
CrazyManR32 said:
Gday All,
I realise that this topic has been mentioned in a few threads, but from what I could find, there is no definiteve fix.
Is there a way to disable this so that a non-genuine charger will work once the screen turns off, or if I was to root the device, is there then a way to do it.
Please dont flame me, I'm a total newb to android, and I dont mind admitting that.
Bit dissapointed that Samsung has sunk to this.
TIA!
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I was one of the ones having problems with it needing to have the screen on to charge. It was a problem with the charger (yes, it was marked as a high amperage charger), changed to a different one (Anker 40W 5 port) and it's working fine.
ericbergan said:
I was one of the ones having problems with it needing to have the screen on to charge. It was a problem with the charger (yes, it was marked as a high amperage charger), changed to a different one (Anker 40W 5 port) and it's working fine.
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Huge second on the Anker. I love that charger by the way. With various devices I would get irritated with some refusing to charge on certain chargers (my BlackBerry Bold in particular). I've since switched to the Anker 5 port 40 Watt and no longer worry about which cable I'm reaching for. Every device gets the power it needs with no fuss.
muzzy996 said:
Not sure what issues you are having but I have been using a few different chargers without issue. Which exact charging method are you trying to use (cable type, charger type, charger rated output voltage and amperage)?
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Initially i was using a belkin 2 port, 2.1amp per port charger, which would start charging but stop once the screen was off.
ShadowLea said:
The problem isn't that the charger is 3rd party.
The problem is that the device requires a 5.1V 2A charger or higher.
Anything lower than that is simply not powerful enough. You can find these specs in small lettering on the charger. Most cheap 3rd party launchers are 5V 1A.
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This seems logical, but it does work when i use the genuine charger from my sgs3 which is a 5vdc 1a charger. Takes all night to charge, but charges non the less.
ericbergan said:
I was one of the ones having problems with it needing to have the screen on to charge. It was a problem with the charger (yes, it was marked as a high amperage charger), changed to a different one (Anker 40W 5 port) and it's working fine.
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Thanks for the info mate, ill see if i can get hold of one of these in australia, that being said, it appears that these are also 5v rather then the 5.3?
CrazyManR32 said:
This seems logical, but it does work when i use the genuine charger from my sgs3 which is a 5vdc 1a charger. Takes all night to charge, but charges non the less.
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That's because the retention rate of the S3's charger is higher than that of a generic cheap 3rd party one. Where the S3 charger actually delivers 0.8-1A, the cheaper ones usually average around 0.5A.
This is why charging over a usb 2.0 port without any power boosts also (usually, there have been some exceptions) doesn't work.
I usually charge mine with my Note 3 or S5 charger, as the three are all the same charger.