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Removing the HTC predictive text thing?

On my original Orbit, the predictive text was the built in WM one (even after the WM6 update), but on the Orbit 2 it's the black one which isn't the WM6 one but presumably is the HTC replacement. However, I don't like it. Partly because I type a lot of texts from my PC using Pocket Controller Pro to type directly into the message. With the HTC predictive thing, if I type at normal speed, it drops characters, but the original Microsoft WM one doesn't. So now I have to type v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y, which is a PITA.
So that's a long winded way of asking whether I can switch back to the Microsoft predictive text.. thanks!

Did you even look at the settings? Or use google before posting?

gnick666 said:
Did you even look at the settings? Or use google before posting?
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Yes, neither of which came up with a solution. Is there a specific google search I should try which will give me the right answer?

andyturner said:
Yes, neither of which came up with a solution. Is there a specific google search I should try which will give me the right answer?
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According to the little black book which has 'manual' printed on it whith nice characters and was included in the basic packadge, the predective text input is called XT9... so try again...

gnick666 said:
According to the little black book which has 'manual' printed on it whith nice characters and was included in the basic packadge, the predective text input is called XT9... so try again...
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Still nothing. "Is there a specific google search I should try which will give me the right answer?". If you've got a point to make about looking up answers then you're not making it very well. Perhaps demonstrate that the answer is out there and easily found by showing me what I should be looking for. Stuff like "remove polaris xt9" "remove touch cruise xt9", doesn't give me any site that tells me what I need to know. Presumably you know different, so let's see what you've got.

andyturner said:
Presumably you know different, so let's see what you've got.
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Please, RTFM, seriously...

gnick666 said:
Please, RTFM, seriously...
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What a twat! If you know the answer, then share it - or even better, put it in the Wiki. Don't post three times on the same topic, just to tell the OP that he should Google for it - especially when it patently isn't intuitively obvious to find.
(I too would like to get rid of this Predictive Text mode, and I too am unable to find it using search engines - and yes, there are other search engines than Google.)

Besides him being a twat in other posts, he's got a valid point here.
RTFM, it's in the user manual that came with your HTC Polaris. Read it again, it's easy to spot.
Go to your keyboard options and select the specific keyboard settings... his hint about XT9 should be all you need by now.
By the time I finished typing this post and went back to thread listings I saw this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357744 thread as the bottom listing...
search and you'll find.. Most of it is already posted (besides the various hardware bugs this type of device is suffering from )

Philip said:
What a twat!...
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Sorry but I'm tired of all the whyning people not being able to read the manual, not being able to use to use google, and starting absolutely unneeded threads... we've go enough of those already...
If you claim that I'm a twat then read my posts... I provided more than enough info to solve the problem... or at least make it less agressive...
Rroet said:
...he's got a valid point here....
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tnx

gnick666 said:
Please, RTFM, seriously...
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Nothing in the manual describes what I want to do. I've just checked a PDF of it and searched and re-read every reference to "XT9". Nothing in any of the threads I've read describes how to do what I want to do. You on the other hand seem to think differently so I've asked you a number of times now to be specific, but it seems you can't be. I wonder why...

gnick666 said:
Sorry but I'm tired of all the whyning people not being able to read the manual, not being able to use to use google, and starting absolutely unneeded threads... we've go enough of those already...
If you claim that I'm a twat then read my posts... I provided more than enough info to solve the problem... or at least make it less agressive...
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The request I ask for is not detailed in the manual. If you think differently then tell me exactly what page. Here's a download that you can reference directly:
http://www.my-xda.com/pdf/user_manual/Full_user_Manual_Xda_Orbit_2.pdf

Rroet said:
Besides him being a twat in other posts, he's got a valid point here. RTFM, it's in the user manual that came with your HTC Polaris. Read it again, it's easy to spot.
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Really, it isn't. I suggest that you and gnick666 RTFOP again.

andyturner said:
The request I ask for is not detailed in the manual. If you think differently then tell me exactly what page. Here's a download that you can reference directly:
http://www.my-xda.com/pdf/user_manual/Full_user_Manual_Xda_Orbit_2.pdf
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Printed (official) user manual, recieved whith the polaris device (you know... little black book whith "manual" printed on the cover), page 56-57... detailed description of the XT9 settings, how to reach them, and which one does what...
Also on page 52-53 (viewed whith Foxit), the same pages can be found... So please next time use the search tool (yes, it can be used in pdf readers aswell)...
Whith my (almost) every post, I provided you whith info... but I'll make something obvious clear: You can't have the old WM word suggestion back (unless you can cook a ROM whithout the HTC XT9)... you can only make it behave like the "Classic" one, but nothing else. For that you can find a detailed description in the manuals.
Also the SIPs provided by HTC, are buggy as hell... if you haven't noticed already...
I would have been so glad if you could figure it out on your own, but noooo... I'm sorry, it's nothing personal but I'm (and not only me) getting fed up whith people not using their heads (much less the search tool), and start asking questions that have already been asked, or something similar, but very related (like in this case, the XT9).

gnick666 said:
Printed (official) user manual, recieved whith the polaris device (you know... little black book whith "manual" printed on the cover).
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Do you get off on being such a little twat? I mean, given that it turns out you're utterly *wrong*, I'd have thought you might have toned this kind of childish pontificating down a bit.
gnick666 said:
, page 56-57... detailed description of the XT9 settings, how to reach them, and which one does what....
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None of which tells me how to restore the original WM6 predictive text, which was the question I actually asked.
gnick666 said:
Also on page 52-53 (viewed whith Foxit), the same pages can be found... So please next time use the search tool (yes, it can be used in pdf readers aswell)....
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None of which tells me how to restore the original WM6 predictive text, which was the question I actually asked. It doesn't matter whether I use the search tool (which as I said, I did), or read it from cover to cover out loud to my children at bedtime. The answer to my question is not there. So WTF are you talking about?
gnick666 said:
Whith my (almost) every post, I provided you whith info....
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Nope, all you've done is be a sanctimonious little twat and just displayed that for all your RTFM protestations, you ironically hadn't read the OP properly. Explanations for changing the XT9 settings are indeed present in the manual, but that *isn't* what I asked for.
gnick666 said:
but I'll make something obvious clear: You can't have the old WM word suggestion back
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Really? But according to you, I should RTFM for my answers. Why suggest that if it actually doesn't solve the problem? Have you realised now how your RTFM suggestions were actually unmerited? Has the penny finally dropped that from day one, whilst you were pontificating from your high horse, you were actually talking utter ****e because you hadn't read the original question properly? I think so.
gnick666 said:
I would have been so glad if you could figure it out on your own, but noooo...
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Since you can't prove a negative, how can you be sure that it can't be done? There's probably loads of things that people think can't be done until someone discovers a registry setting or some other way of doing it.
gnick666 said:
I'm sorry, it's nothing personal but I'm (and not only me) getting fed up whith people not using their heads
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Yeah, well it's perhaps about time you used *your* head and read the posts properly before going off on one and acting like a spoilt little twat when you were actually *wrong*.
gnick666 said:
(much less the search tool) and start asking questions that have already been asked
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Post me a single link where this question has been asked before and which has reasonable answers that are conclusive either way (ie, which would lead me to not bother asking the question myself). Let's see what you've got for once.
gnick666 said:
or something similar, but very related (like in this case, the XT9).
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LOL! So if a "related", but actually *different* question is asked, that's not allowed is it? You don't half talk some utter crap. Oh and FFS, learn to spell "with".

Hmmm... nice argument there, nicely dissected my post, but it still doesn't explain your lazyness. RTFOP, yeah well... wasn't question about getting the original Word Completion back? Because HTC's version drops characters? (btw... Which SIP are you using?)
gnick666 said:
...the predective text input is called XT9...
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gnick666 said:
...or at least make it less agressive...
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gnick666 said:
...You can't have the old WM word suggestion back (unless you can cook a ROM whithout the HTC XT9)... you can only make it behave like the "Classic" one, but nothing else. For that you can find a detailed description in the manuals.
Also the SIPs provided by HTC, are buggy as hell... if you haven't noticed already...
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The first 2 should have been enough to get you on the road of discovery... but you hung up on complaining about me being on a high horse...
Also 2 words (xt9 polaris) in google turned up this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2082504 so you might be able to get what you want eventually... and I still belive that the manual should have been enough... not for removing it, but for making it more useful for you (or even finding what caused the problem)
Philip said:
there are other search engines than Google.
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yes, there are, but theres a reason for google... you see there are 2 search tools on this forum, one of those is the internal search engine, and the second one is Google... also Google has mapped more of the forum than any other search engine, and the results are more up-to-date...

gnick666 said:
Hmmm... nice argument there, nicely dissected my post, but it still doesn't explain your lazyness.
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There is no laziness, not from me anyway. You on the other hand didn't read my OP properly and you thought my question was a simple one where the answer lies in the manual, hence all your RTFM pontificating. You were wrong, but you've yet to acknowledge or apologise.
gnick666 said:
RTFOP, yeah well... wasn't question about getting the original Word Completion back? Because HTC's version drops characters?
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Yes indeed it was. And what in the manual tells me how to do that? Nothing. So what was with all the RTFM crap?
gnick666 said:
(btw... Which SIP are you using?)
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The full and usual WM6 keyboard.
gnick666 said:
The first 2 should have been enough to get you on the road of discovery...
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Riiiiight .. and in those messages you told me to "RTFM" and "Google", neither of which have come up with a working answer. I haven't found one and neither have you. If they were good enough, then how come you haven't come up with a working solution either, huh? Yeah, there's been a "road of discovery", alright, but it's not been the one I asked about...
gnick666 said:
but you hung up on complaining about me being on a high horse...
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LOL! I only said that in my last post, and if you hadn't botched up so badly and got on your high horse in the first place, then I'd have had nothing to comment on. Clearly you've got a bee in your bonnet about people posting FAQs (so much so as to include a whine about it in your sig), but on this occasion you got it wrong and were way too eager to jump on someone's back that you simply didn't bother to properly comprehend what was being asked.
gnick666 said:
Also 2 words (xt9 polaris) in google turned up this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2082504 so you might be able to get what you want eventually...
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Well firstly I'm amused that you would come up with this, despite telling me in your last post that "I'll make something obvious clear: You can't have the old WM word suggestion back". Sounds to me like you haven't actually got a clue what you're talking about.
But I've already tried that and it doesn't work, not on my device anyway, it makes no noticeable difference. TBH I was then a bit worried about installing a cab that turns out to make no difference that I could tell, but dissecting the CAB meant it was easy enough to ensure its changes could be undone with confidence.
gnick666 said:
and I still belive that the manual should have been enough... not for removing it, but for making it more useful for you (or even finding what caused the problem)
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Well you're wrong again. The manual doesn't tell me how to restore the WM6 prediction, which is what I asked for. I knew this before I even posted the OP. If the manual was enough, then how come, after all your bleating have you still not managed to point out a working solution?
Next time mate, learn to read the OP properly before making botched assumptions and then acting like a sanctimonious arsehole. You'll only look like a little twat in the long run when it's pointed out to you that you were wrong and have absolutely no basis for your whining.

The manual is useless to me also. I went into the Input mode and disabled everything, but it still suggests word, adds a space, etc.
I prefer to use the Block Recognizer and it continually adds spaces.
If I want it to suggest a word when entering a calendar event, it does not suggest a word even if I turn on the option to suggest words.
Basically, it does everything I do not want it to do!
I did some searches also, but I really did not get any useful results other than the basic text shown in the manual.

It's not my fault that you can't consider the lack of information in the manual and in forums as information in itself.
No info in the maunal, can't restore it to default (whithout tweaking).
CAB's not working, can't restore it to default (whith tweaking) - also according to your last post you found that already, so there is another (older) thread dealing whith your problem (at least partialy).
You don't have the knowledge to restore it, if you had it you would have restored it already.
In conclusion, you can't restore the Original one. How am I wrong?
andyturner said:
The full and usual WM6 keyboard.
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Funny... that should work properly... have you tried any other ones (3rd party)? If you did, did the XT9 work correctly? (I'm just asking because I use Resco Keyboard, and didn't have any problems whith the XT9)
The best thing you can do about it is to wait for someone comes up whith a solution, but I don't belive there will be one, just newer versions of XT9 that (maybe) works properly. Or try other ROMs (like the upcoming Polaris Project ROM, or bepe's), and hope one of them has the XT9 working properly, or has the original.

gnick666 said:
It's not my fault that you can't consider the lack of information in the manual and in forums as information in itself.
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There's a lot of information on this site that isn't in the manual. There's information on other sites that isn't on this site nor in the manual. Sorry, but I don't consider a lack of information as a sign that something can't be done. Imagine where we'd be if everyone gave up so easily, nothing would get done.
gnick666 said:
No info in the maunal
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Manual. Remember, it's "the little black book which has 'manual' printed on it", so I was told - not "maunal". And if you know that there's no info in the manual, care to explain why you kept bleating "RTFM" at me? Wrong again weren't you.
gnick666 said:
can't restore it to default (whithout tweaking).
CAB's not working, can't restore it to default (whith tweaking) - also according to your last post you found that already, so there is another (older) thread dealing whith your problem (at least partialy).
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All of which I knew or had read before I posted my question. So your accusations of "lazyness" (sic), are utter bollocks. You were wrong.
gnick666 said:
You don't have the knowledge to restore it, if you had it you would have restored it already.
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Doh, yeah dumbnuts. Hence I asked a question about it... Sheesh mate, have you even been understanding what's been going on?
gnick666 said:
In conclusion, you can't restore the Original one. How am I wrong?
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You're wrong because you told me to RTFM when (as I already knew), the answer to my question wasn't there. You were wrong when you suggested I was being lazy. You were wrong in your original misinterpretation of what I'd asked, leading you to give wrong advice. You were in a wrong position to get on your high horse because I actually wasn't guilty of anything that you were pontificating about. You were wrong to suggest that the answer lay in a Google search because you've yet been unable to come up with it. Oh, and you are wrong each time you put "whith" instead of "with", despite me already pointing this out to you.
That enough wrongs for you?
gnick666 said:
Funny... that should work properly... have you tried any other ones (3rd party)? If you did, did the XT9 work correctly? (I'm just asking because I use Resco Keyboard, and didn't have any problems whith the XT9)
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I haven't tried any other keyboards at this stage, no. It seemed sensible to attempt to restore the original before moving onto other alternatives.
gnick666 said:
The best thing you can do about it is to wait for someone comes up whith a solution, but I don't belive there will be one, just newer versions of XT9 that (maybe) works properly. Or try other ROMs (like the upcoming Polaris Project ROM, or bepe's), and hope one of them has the XT9 working properly, or has the original.
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Thankyou, some reasonable opinion at last. I'll also investigate what I can do to restore the WM6 predictive text by comparing my Orbit WM6 image with my Orbit 2 WM6 image.

So how do I remove the predictive text thing then?

UK 3G Service Android App

3G Survey Android App, BBC is conducting a UK 3G Survey to show where 3G services are available in the UK.
bit.ly/osu1Y9

Thanks for the good information....

I just downloaded this, and came to see if anyone posted about it. A better title might be "UK 3G Survey - You can help". That may encourage more people to take part.

Komatoes said:
I just downloaded this, and came to see if anyone posted about it. A better title might be "UK 3G Survey - You can help". That may encourage more people to take part.
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If mods are reading this please change title to
'UK 3G Survey - You can help'
If they don't we're just have to keep doing bumps until people get so annoyed that they have to open thread and read it

checkbox111 said:
If mods are reading this please change title to
'UK 3G Survey - You can help'
If they don't we're just have to keep doing bumps until people get so annoyed that they have to open thread and read it
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Or you could just change it yourself?

DirkGently1 said:
Or you could just change it yourself?
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How do i edit a title

Good to now.

Good to now.

Didn't find this too useful as I tend to turn off 3G when I'm not using it.
Plus O2's 3G seems non-existent here whereas T-Mobile have HSDPA coverage. Probably would make it inaccurate when they get survey results.

Good to now.

This is a good app, but to be honest why it can't if what I've read on the android market, is continsouly aksing for gps positioning, why it can't try and use network and wifi positioning or have that as an option to reduce battery may mnake sense, I'll give this app a go, as I do live in a rual area so if I can help I will.

best gps for sensation....

hello all i start that thread to find a good gps for that device....navigon doesnt work for me i dont know why....is installed but gets me an error when open it...i try sygic but some times takes about 50secs to locate....with dual core cpu?why is that????

Do I really have to be first to say it? Wrong section.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

FIRST!!! (Ok Second)
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Post this in Q&A Please
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You had my hopes up for an S-OFF
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Your a noob (youtube it!)
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What does a Dualcore have to do with a fast GPS fix?
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Mods please move this thread!
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(these were all the posts and replies I could think of, no-one else should need to answer now!

Nothing to do with the cpu my friend.
When the mods move this thread i'll be happy to answer any questions your have, i'm pretty knowledgeable about GPS so either make another or wait for it to be moved.
This is a development thread for people who make rom's, radios, kernels and things which change the android system etc.
This should have been asked in the Q+A thread.

Giblet-dono said:
FIRST!!! (Ok Second)
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Post this in Q&A Please
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You had my hopes up for an S-OFF
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Your a noob (youtube it!)
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What does a Dualcore have to do with a fast GPS fix?
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Mods please move this thread!
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(these were all the posts and replies I could think of, no-one else should need to answer now!
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Is there any need to talk to someone like that?
Some f**king people man.
You need help.

dladz said:
Is there any need to talk to someone like that?
Some f**king people man.
You need help.
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Wohwohwohwoh!
I didn't want to make any trouble!
But basically you need to pay me because you used 2 of my (copyrighted) answers!

dladz said:
Nothing to do with the cpu my friend.
When the mods move this thread i'll be happy to answer any questions your have, i'm pretty knowledgeable about GPS so either make another or wait for it to be moved.
This is a development thread for people who make rom's, radios, kernels and things which change the android system etc.
This should have been asked in the Q+A thread.
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looks and sound nicer... rather than harsh words

lol .... lool
yes well that starts here on thread!!

Google's free navigation!!!!! and remember:BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FOR FREE lol

The sensation's GPS works great right off the box, locks in 5-10 seconds. Wierd that you need another GPS other than the already free google navigation.
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eliexda said:
Google's free navigation!!!!! and remember:BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FOR FREE lol
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I agree, Google is great, as long as your in coverage. But if your in slow data or no data coverage area, it won't work. I know quite a few hard core hikers that buy hand held gps units because of this. Maybe the OP wants the same.
Unfortunately I'm not on the up and up of what Nav software is available for Andriod that doesn't require a data connection. Basically something that downloads the maps for you.
OP, if you are looking for a mapping program that doesn't require a data connection check out MapDroyd in the market. Seems to be pretty decent.

Double post. Sorry.

setzer715 said:
I agree, Google is great, as long as your in coverage. But if your in slow data or no data coverage area, it won't work. I know quite a few hard core hikers that buy hand held gps units because of this. Maybe the OP wants the same.
Unfortunately I'm not on the up and up of what Nav software is available for Andriod that doesn't require a data connection. Basically something that downloads the maps for you.
OP, if you are looking for a mapping program that doesn't require a data connection check out MapDroyd in the market. Seems to be pretty decent.
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Latest version of Maps allows downloading a 10mi radius of map segments stored locally on the phone. I believe you can download up to 6 such 10mi sections. That should cover a pretty good hiking area. You can do this for any area, so download ahead of time if you'll be out of cell/wifi range.
In the past I've used RMAPS with downloaded maps. Problem is it takes a bit of effort to get it set up for the area you want. A plus is it lets you download from a wide variety of mapping sources.
http://balamaci.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/android-offline-maps/#comment-42
RMAPS is for walking navigation since it doesn't include a routing or driving option. But you said hiking, which is why I mentioned it.

navigator
works perfectly for me straight away. signal locks within 10 seconds, even when I am indoors, and places the arrow right on top of my location. according to HTC tech support (yes I know, just passing along the info), a factory reset will 90% of the time resolve the issue you're having.

Navigon you are using is pirated. You need a 3g or WiFi connection to launch it. Or to freeze market.
Its the best navigation for android and you should buy it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation

Giblet-dono said:
FIRST!!! (Ok Second)
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Post this in Q&A Please
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You had my hopes up for an S-OFF
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Your a noob (youtube it!)
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What does a Dualcore have to do with a fast GPS fix?
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Mods please move this thread!
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(these were all the posts and replies I could think of, no-one else should need to answer now!
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prime example of a total duche.

[Q] program for ir blaster

I am in Greece and peel is not working with full specs. Can you suggest any other program for using my tablet as a remote with multiple tv's. i have 2 different tv's. (Samsung & LG)

this isn't any help to you, but i am also wondering this. Ha ha don't look at other country's with envy because that app is pretty terrible which is why I wonder if there are any alternatives.

If either of you had searched you would have found plenty of info in this very forum about the IR blaster on the tab2.
Shame on both of you.

scottx . said:
If either of you had searched you would have found plenty of info in this very forum about the IR blaster on the tab2.
Shame on both of you.
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Thanks for posting such a rude comment that didn't help either of us find an alternative application.
Shame on you for being so unhelpful.

tcb4 said:
Thanks for posting such a rude comment that didn't help either of us find an alternative application.
Shame on you for being so unhelpful.
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shame on you for not bothering to spend a little effort and search for your answer. Asking others to do the simple leg work you could have done. THIS is why you get a snippy reply because in the time it took you to post and also reply back to a user you could have googled and xda searched.
i spent 10seconds and searched "ir remote app"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647605&highlight=ir+remote+app&page=2
there's your answer, now learn from this moment and understand not everyone in the world will go and get things for you, sometimes you have to do things for yourself.

We were all new at one point in time and XDA is huge and sometimes very difficult to navigate. A little guidance can go a long way in terms of respect and gratitude, especially from Senior Members.

guys, why so sensitive... let's be honest, it was an easy find. I'm a newbie too, and the first thing I found when I got my Tab 2, was Touchsquid. The Search feature is REALLY easy to access. And you can even search per-forum right away... now, nevermind the argument, click on that thread they gave you, it has lots of information about Touchsquid. Which is, by the way, a really cool app. A little unpolished in terms of interface and layout, but has a LOT of functions, compatibility, etc.

it's listing as $49 bucks here...seriously...$49 for a andriod app to use a ir sensor on our device.....hey, I'm not knocking them selling it for that, they did the work obviously...but why aren;t more developers doing it, if they can get that for it? People work their butts off making apps for like $1-$3/buy

RS-232D said:
it's listing as $49 bucks here...seriously...$49 for a andriod app to use a ir sensor on our device.....hey, I'm not knocking them selling it for that, they did the work obviously...but why aren;t more developers doing it, if they can get that for it? People work their butts off making apps for like $1-$3/buy
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Probably because the customer base isn't that large. I guess.

hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything

hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this

pleaseeeeeeeeee

phonebroken said:
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
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Since you mentioned your eager to understand what goes on here at XDA I would highly recommend taking a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073370. It contains links to approximately 108 guides that explains everything from what is logcat and compiling Android from source to explaining about MODs and Tweaks, to how to compile and modify your own Android ROMs. Also if you still have any questions feel free to ask me I'll be happy to help you out .
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great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there

phonebroken said:
great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
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To answer your questions:
like what is a rom?
A ROM as defined on the XDA wiki and the Android terms glossary thread is:
The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL. Carriers such as T-mobile or Vodaphone taylor the ROM to their specifications and version numbers do not carry the same meaning across different carriers. IF the carrier you use supports the device well they will usually release regular ROM updates.
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Rom/Firmware:Read-Only Memory and technically speaking, it refers to the internal storage of a device, which is supposed to contain the operating system instructions that needn’t be modified at all during the device’s normal operation.
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why would you want to port or create roms?
Developers create and port ROM's for a variety of reasons. One reason is because they want the latest version of Android on a device that doesn't officially support the latest version of Android. For example the last officially supported version of Android on the Nexus S was 4.1.2 but developers compiled Android 4.3 for it so Nexus S users can enjoy all the latest features and benefits of Android 4.3. A second reason is because developers add features and performance enhancements that the original device manufacturer never could have envisioned or left out. Cyanogenmod, AOKP, and Paranoid Android are all perfect examples of custom ROM's that were developed to increase performance and add many new features. A third reason, is that if you like a ROM but it isn't available for your device, developer's will port it over do the device they want it on (Note: This process can range from very simple to extremely complex) so they have that ROM's features on there device. A fourth reason is theming, some times user's will create custom ROM's that include a heavily modified or changed user interface and then distribute the changes. However ROM's that are just themed and no other changes made are becoming less prevalent due to additions of universal theme engines such as the XPOSED Framework .
why do you want to log?
Logging allows developers to see where the problems are and what is causing certain functionality such as Wifi, graphics, touchscreen, app problems, etc. to not work correctly. The log gives a detailed report of what is not working and a starting point troubleshooting where the error occurs. Developers then look at the logs and fix the error messages they are receiving. Without logs it would be close to impossible to fix any problems you ran into when developing a ROM.
Another set of guides that is an excellent source of information is -NickHalden-'s Guide Ride-From a Newbie to a Dev, Get all you need here. It takes you like you wanted from just understanding the basics, all the way up to developing ROM's and other cool stuff yourself. It also includes a very helpful numerical order that you can follow along so you don't miss any important information along the way. Also I am curious as to what you mean by "but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there"? Can you give an example? Additionally you can rate threads and see the threads ratting if they have one at the top of the thread for what users have rated it, this is usually (Though not always) a good indication of how helpful people have found the information in that thread. And if you have any other questions let me know I'm always happy to answer them .

thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us

phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Regarding a central place to find information the easiest way to find it to often search either using XDA's "Search All Forums" button in the upper right hand corner, or to use Google and search something such as "xda {your search term here}" or "{your search term here} xda" (For example "xda root nexus 10" etc.). Another way to find things is simply browse through the massive amount of helpful information that can be found on XDA simply by browsing around, I have learned countless, countless things this way. If there is a specific subject or topic your interested in let me know and I'll be happy to help you look for it or point you in the right direction. To answer your keyboard question, this is a interesting dilemma as an incoming computer engineering student problems like the one your described are very fascinating to me. I suspect what will happen in the future (2-3 years or sooner) is that we will see fold-able screens that we can roll up and put in our pockets or much more flexible keyboards that you can roll up into your pocket will be developed. But overall the keyboard and real typing experience you mentioned is a very real dilemma.

phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Something like this maybe?