HTC Touch Pro2 (and others with no D-PAD) - Touch Pro2 CDMA

I was wondering if there was a keyboard with just the D-PAD (lower row) This would be great for programs that use D-pad (or games) Sometimes I have to open keyboard to use a directional key, close it again so I can read the content on my screen, to have to reopen the keyboard to use the d-pad once again...

Why can't you just scroll with your finger? Also I know there are some programs that allow you to use the zoombar as a scrollbar instead, can't seem to find a link right now though.

Some programs require you use UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT and that's what I need it for. Scrolling with finger just won't do it on some programs.

You should be able to scroll left and right with touch no problem, not with the zoom bar though.
either way...if neither of those options work there is a discussion here with some links to different options for scrolling:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446015

Once again, I Am Not Trying To Scroll....! I am trying to use UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT keys of D-PAD.

m4f1050 said:
Once again, I Am Not Trying To Scroll....! I am trying to use UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT keys of D-PAD.
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the thread title is "virtual d-pad", just because we are not using the same vernacular doesn't mean the information i'm giving isn't helpful. you can read it or you can be a stubborn fool and be in the same position you are right now. next time, do you own damn searches on google (site:forum.xda-developers.com ........) i'm done with you.

I would have told you if it did help, don't feel bad just because you didn't answer what I was looking for. If you know of any virtual d-pad with just the up/down/left/right then let me know. Thanks.

m4f1050 said:
I would have told you if it did help, don't feel bad just because you didn't answer what I was looking for. If you know of any virtual d-pad with just the up/down/left/right then let me know. Thanks.
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There are programs in there where you can use the g-sensor to act as a d-pad. They are in development to work with games (and it may already work with some).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429569
in the description:
What is this ?
This is a little application that will simulate key presses (on the D-pad) or scroll while you tilt your device. It will soon be usable in many games (e.g. racing games where it isn't really great to use the D-Pad). It is actually usable with a lot of desktop-softwares, like Manila, etc...
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IF you would have read that whole thread, you would have found a link to a discussion on extracting the toshiba virtual d-pad:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533157&page=2
Although I'm not sure if it will work for the tp2, maybe we can get WM devs on it.
and lastly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658673

Now *THATS* interesting, the g-sensor one... Might be even bettern than what I was looking for. Thanks for the info.

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Dissatisfied office user - suggestions? Kaiser?

I use my PDA mainly to effectively stay organized and want to execute the most commands with the hardware keyboard. The Hermes (TyTN) was great for that purpose but I wanted something faster and had better camera and so on, so I bought Raphael.
The Raphael is great in many ways but it has slowed down my organizing and irritated me and I´m wondering if I can do something about it, see things differently, or if you have suggestions for recomending something else, like Kaiser or Xperia?
More specifically...
-The input method with auto suggestion seems crappy (see separate thread)
-The soft keys above the keyboard are gone
-It actually takes longer time to open Word-documents (than with Hermes) - it takes 15-25 seconds for a 50kB doc (!)
-The screen is not placed in the middle
Lot´s of complaints , but I am looking for a solution here, so please enlighten me
/Dan
Hardware shortcuts.
PQzII for hardware shortcuts. Have you changed from the default ROM this may speed up word.
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PQzII for hardware shortcuts. Have you changed from the default ROM this may speed up word.
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Does PQxII work even for the soft keys - menu and...?
Are the ROM:s available here language-specifik, or can I use any one of them? (I have a Swedish model.)
And thanks

TouchPad in Raphael as Mouse-Control?

Hi everyone.
I have my new Touch Pro and i saw it have a "full" TouchPad under the Screen.
My question is, might it be possible to display a Mouse-courser and control it with this TouchPad?
I dont know if this is usefull.
Badly i never coded for Windows Mobile, so is someone thinking this would be a nice application and want to code something like this?
Maybe if i get this damn Microsoft Visual Express Edition running, i will try something myself.
//Edit: just like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpKQOP9LJRU
It's a good idea, the touchpad is even multi-touch capable...
hate it on i900...
could be more interesting on touch pro/diamond, since the surface is larger
Hi everyone Im using remote touch for this. take a look at that freeware on this site here. as it is a beta there is no further guide on how to use this tool. anyway figure it out for yourself. it works for me, not always but it does most of the time.
have fun
hm.
maybe you did not understand me or i dont know if remote touch can control a mouse on your PocketPC and not on your Desktop PC.
best look at the movie in my first post to get a impression how i was thinking for a use of this touchPad.
Yes, like Samsung-i900 (Omnia). It's possible?
i think it is possible (but i am really new in WinCE developing).
I have finaly succesfully installed an IDE on my Work-PC.
And i think i also found somethink to move the "mouse".
Now i only need to install the IDE on my Home PC, loading DLLs into the program and i need to look into the SDK for the TouchPad. (Badly i have read that it has only one event that reads the rotations? this would be bad.)
Of course it would be faster if someone that is a lot more experienced in WinCE developing would try it.
Hello, I was the first one to come up with this idea. Check it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431522
Is it possible to make the area around the Dpad as touch buttons (touching the up button = pressing the up button, etc)? Since the Dpad is hard to press, it makes some games kinda unplayable...

Worms World Party Works! :)

hello guys, i was very sad that worms world party is not working on my Topaz device. that's why i 've decided to make simple application - keyboard - to emulate hardware keyboard my keyboard is very simple and it shows in the bottom of the screen (worms are 640*480 so there is free space on the bottom). it was made in 2 hours or something so take it as very alpha build but it works fine for me and i want to share my app with all worms fans
Install notes:
1. put keypad.exe to your topaz.
2. run keypad.exe
3. run worms world party from jamdat.. google for it
4. go to options and assign buttons to fire, jump and flip (X button is used to exit keypad at the moment).
5. play and enjoy!!
there is some flickering window title when pressing buttons. i will fix it later.
awaiting your feedback guys.
2009/08/19 EDIT: changed keypad skin and some bugs fixed.
ok, the pad with the arrow keys and stuff works fine for blackstone. However, it seems that worms does not work with wm6.5. And correct my if i'm wrong, what your app does is to 'simulate' a dpad with buttons right? so could you make one which can be configured to run alongside other games? That way we'll get more vga games running on our wvga devices.
now it's sending fake keyboard messages to worms application. but it's not a problem to make it for any other application. also i'm working on better skin and bigger buttons to make it more finger friendly. if you know a game which needs virtual keypad, tell me and i can make it. and back to worms - i'm using WM6.1 so dunno if it runs on WM6.5
i've got one, erm.. skyforce.
it works for me too - thx
what program language did u use for this? and plz make a bigger screen this is hard to use
Virtual d-pad is really good idea for games. have a nice develop.
hello again. i have updated keypad a little. new design and little bugs fixed. link is in first post.
TeDeV: i'm using c++.. it's all about winapi..
info5i2002: i've tried skyforce and it's not working good. game recieves only some of messages that keypad is sending. i need to investigate why... maybe it will be better to just let user enter name of the window to keypad application and it will send messages to that window. to play any game. i'm busy these days so be patient play worms in the meantime
Hey. If it isn't too much trouble (it isn't), can you compile a Windows CE 5.0 version? You have no idea how much this would help owners of other non-Pocket PC WinCE devices like the Mio C520 or other hacked portable nav units which lack the hardware buttons for games.
As you can see in the screenshot, the exe you posted doesn't currently run on plain Windows CE 5.0 devices. I've found that this is due to a bug/"feature" of the kernel related to buffer underrun protection and some sort of incompatablity with the compiler defaults in the WM5 SDK. It's an easy fix on your end. Just set /GS- in your projects compile settings.
see here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8dbf701c(VS.80).aspx for more information.
Also, I had to manually lower the Windows CE os version to even get it far enough for this screenshot. Can you please set /subsystem:windowsce,4.20 in the linker command line options for future builds? Hell, make it 3.0. This sort of app will probably still run on Pocket PC 2002 (CE 3.0) or at least CE 4.2. More info here: http://windowsmobilepro.blogspot.com/2006/04/trap-of-copying-project-settings-in.html
It's simple to do and it has the added benefit of exposing your app to many more devices. I'm sure the owners of "other" buttonless 800x480 devices like the Ipaq 310 will thank you.
Also, can you look into supporting other, lower resolutions like 320x240, 400x240, 640x480 or 480x272(most WinCE nav units) or just alow it to scale to anything? It seems offscreen on a VGA PPC. How about landscape/side buttons and the ability to remap buttons? Thanks.
TFGBD: Hello. i agree with everything you wrote. sure, there is no problem to compile for CE and i also have C520. but application is not so smart at the moment to run in those resolutions. i'm afraid it works only for games that are not fullscreen and there is blank space on the screen for keypad. like worms on 480x800. but on device with 480*640 resolution i will have to overlap game window and that is the problem. when i was was writing this app it was only for worms because i love that game and it wasn't playable on TD2. i wasn't thinking about other games not even other devices and resolutions. but it is a good idea. i think i will have some time during weekend so maybe i will take a deeper look into the topic and find out something "portable". anyway, thank you for feedback if you know some mio C520 game that needs keyboard, tell me please. it may help
Heh, I didn't count on you already owning a WinCE PNA. Funny, that. Well, there's always Worms World Party... Granted, I never actually tried it on the Cx20 but I imagine its QVGA version has plenty of extra space on a 480x272 screen. That and like half of the other popular Pocket PC titles. Really, it sucks that so many of these games were hardcoded for 240x320(or upscaled VGA). It really makes them look crappy on higher resolution devices. But I guess it at least lets them leave space at the bottom of the screen for your d-pad. And yeah, you are probably right that it wouldn't be too useful on the more standard resolutions like QVGA/VGA. There are probably more widescreen devices without buttons than standard res ones anyway. Well, unless maybe you want to play 176x220 Smartphone games on a QVGA Pocket PC...
hehe, well, i'm working in mobile navigation software development company and i have around 30 different devices around i've just testet worms on GoClever 4390T device similar to C520 (480x272 @ winCE) and it runs great and there is really plenty of space left on side. ideal for my keypad.. and there is much more space than on my TD2 better for finger use. i'll give it a try on sathurday.
sused said:
hehe, well, i'm working in mobile navigation software development company and i have around 30 different devices around i've just testet worms on GoClever 4390T device similar to C520 (480x272 @ winCE) and it runs great and there is really plenty of space left on side. ideal for my keypad.. and there is much more space than on my TD2 better for finger use. i'll give it a try on sathurday.
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Oh, wonderful. Keep up the good work. I'm glad I could inspire you.
Hrm...you wouldn't happen to work for PDAMill/NavNgo, would you?
not iGO. well, it's agains forum law to make advertisment.. but if you are interested google for "aponia software" i hope admins won't kill me now. but it's not complete offtopic because you can get pretty good navigation for your device there
Not working for my HTC Fuze (WinMo 6.1)
i run keypad.exe.. nothing really happens. I only see keypad.exe on my title bar and and X button on the top right..
I run worms and I still can't select any button, either on teh touch screen, bottom or on the keyboard.. I do see some flickering though... pls help
hdaackda said:
Not working for my HTC Fuze (WinMo 6.1)
i run keypad.exe.. nothing really happens. I only see keypad.exe on my title bar and and X button on the top right..
I run worms and I still can't select any button, either on teh touch screen, bottom or on the keyboard.. I do see some flickering though... pls help
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Your device is VGA? This only works on WVGA screens, because there is empty space while running WWP (that is originally QVGA)
Not sure..
Btw, I dowload key config 1.0 from another thread and used that to save WWPSave.dat... Now I can Fire and Jump (i.e. use two buttons, volume up and down... no other is working)
Cute keypad but doesn t work with me... I don t know why i can see it in the game but it doesn t want to work ... but anyway nice to know that there are so much worms addicts
hdaackda said:
Not working for my HTC Fuze (WinMo 6.1)
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sure it doesn't work, your device is VGA not WVGA. and i think your device has a keyboard, i think you should play worms with no problem with your keyboard.
DJMEone said:
Cute keypad but doesn t work with me...
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do you have touch diamond 2? if yes, what version of worms do you use? keypad is looking for window with "Light" in its title. it's because my worms creates window with this title. if your worms window has different title, tell me, and i will add support for your worms window.

Help to get back D-pad to HTC PDAs

I wrote a quetion to HTC, why they are producing PDAs without D-pad. On internet there are forums full of complains at missing D-pad. Here is the answer from HTC:
"Dear Diamant
Thank you for your enquiry about Windows Mobile.
I've not seen any requests for a d-pad on the HTC devices, but I will forward your feedback to our main office for them to keep in mind with future products.
Best regards
"
Please, write to HTC (click here http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx ), when you are missing a D-pad. The more messages they get, the bigger is the chance to get D-pad back to new HTC PDAs.
I doubt they will bring the dpad back
They may bring the little blackberry-wheel to winmo, though
I would love to see a trackball on the future HTC devices.
If they dont have requests, I hope, they will get them. Please tell to your friends to write to HTC a request.
Not having a d-pad is what have kept me from buying newer htc phones.
I dont want a fullsize keyboard to add thickness to the device but the d-pad is a perfect complement. The newer devices have space for them too. Just remove that stupid zoombar.
I agree trackballs are the way to go, there small and easier to use than a dpad but still offer all the functionality
mancsoulja said:
I agree trackballs are the way to go, there small and easier to use than a dpad but still offer all the functionality
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Except when it comes to games
....and changing track's,fast forwarding, volume control,screen on/screen off when listening to music, it pisses me off having to pull the later model's out of my pocket....turn the screen on and do it there instead.
IMO you also can't beat a d-pad for selection of contact's etc while your walking/moving around....a click is just such a positive thing and no amount of fondling the screen can replace it for me
kareem, you were faster! You are right.
gerryjoson - by HTC Touch HD I remapped volume keys on side of device to arrows Up and Down. And they were usable f.e. to changing tracks by listening music without turning the screen on. But now on Touch HD2 the keys are not working without working screen.
I think, that D-pad really does not need too much space. Just look to Nokia (f.e. N82), where is the middle button (Enter) surrounded by a smaller frame, that is used to go to 4 directions. I think, this is the best solution, that is really small. Trackball or joystick is smaller, but the functionality is worse.
Please write to HTC, that you want have D-pad on new HTC models.

HElP on morphgear and FpseCE

First, i will have to say, i love these emulators. however, for some reason, i really can't get them to work properly, these emulators work just fine on my leo, is the virtual keypads on these emulators bug the hell out of me.
in morphgear, i got most of the virtual keypad buttons working...however, X,B doesn't really work, i am not sure if it is caused my multi-touching, Ie: pressing forward key and other action button at the same time.
in FpseCE, i just couldn't find any of the virtual keypad button anywhere on the screen, tried to reallocate them but it doesn't let me to.
would anyone please please help? coz these two emulators are just brilliant, and i really want to use them, however it just not possible when i can't find any keys when using them. many thanks.
fpsec you have to configure yourself (search fpsce how to videos)
the morphgear one you can download a skin and the pad shows up at the bottom of the screen.
hope this helps, sure someone will give a better answer soon tho lol
Go here for excellent working gamepad for morphgear:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602276&highlight=morphgear+gamepad
Instructions are there too...
And for fpsece the forum at the fpsece site i find very helpful aswell as XDA. Fpsece can be tricky, but once the button overlays are set its a great emulator. I'd suggest donating for the supporter version if you haven't already. Searching YouTube for frenchaddicts help vids would be a good idea too.
thank you very much for your help~ i will try to figure it out via youtube....these emulators are great...just have to find a way to figure out how they work
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thank you very much for your help~ i will try to figure it out via youtube....these emulators are great...just have to find a way to figure out how they work
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Here is the link for frenchaddicts vids on youtube. Hopefully you find them helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/user/i900frenchaddict#p/u/4/nOcvM8bHiZM
If there's anything you get stuck with, i'll try to help more if i can.

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