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Decent Web Browser at all?

I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.

The choppy video is probably because of the driver issues (you can read more about it in the forums if you search a little)
And did you get opera 8.5 bundled with your phone? Opera 9.5 is much smoother and better looking than the 8.5 version (imo), and i'll suggest you try upgrading to it to see if there is any difference.

I watched the video regarding Opera 9.5 but its still not released, and by the looks of what I gathered from other forums, people are becoming impatient.
Im currently using Opera 8.65 and no it wasnt bundled with my phone.
So will those driver issues fix the choppy video playback?.
Normal videos saved to the device work fine its just the online ones that use a flash applet like dailymotion

Try Skyfire (you'll have to sign up for it), is really amazing, is very fast and smooth

thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
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Need to do some more research on it before you get it I guess.
Anyways, CorePlayer, TCMP player all play videos fine.
ALL browsers are FINE and work great for different things.
I myself use pocket IE for sites that are in mobile format, and opera 9.5 "beta" for sites that are not in mobile format. I would use opera mobile if it wouldn't install over my 9.5, instead of pocket IE, but all my text based sites work fine in pocket IE (ebay, paypal, howardforums, flickr, youtube, etc)
I don't really know who watches youtube videos or other internet based videos via their browser, I've always seen them being watched through TCMP, CorePlayer, WMP streaming or HTC streaming media.
There are no official driver updates coming.
I am unsure as to the technology that Dailymotion uses, but if it's youtube based then you should have no problems.
I think you are looking for a desktop in a pocketpc, which no one has quite yet. Maybe an HTC advantage, who knows.
Doesnt matter what phone you have, all software will run the same if the devices were made in the same time frame.
Oh and I assume orbit 2 is in Europe somewhere? None the less, Skyfire is available to U.S. numbers only apparently for it's beta. Maybe NetFront would work for you, try that. I hated it.

thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
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Have you tried Opera Mini? Their new beta v4.1 can be downloaded and really works great. My favorite browser so far.

try opera with limit paragraph on. that's amazing.

Opera 9 (beta) is working really well, especially for a beta. Panning in web pages is pretty smooth most of the time and as the above poster said, with limit paragraph on, reading articles on news sites, etc is doable.
The negatives are it is a beta so bugs here and there. Other issues are the touch keyboards (numbers only) don't work and neither does pocketCM (space between every character). I don't believe there is flash support in the browser either.
I use PIE for youtube/flashbundle combo.

whats flash bundle?

do a search on it. it allows you to watch videos from sites like youtube (the real youtube not the mobile version of it). those sites use flash video and the flashbundle is a plugin for PIE that enables that functionality in PIE.

I have the flash 7 plugin, is that the same thing?
Whenever i try and load the non-mobile version of u-tube on PIE,
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!

thegr8one23 said:
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
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You know there is a little round hole on the bottom of the device next to the USB called the 'Reset Hole"??? Put the stylus in it and you won't have to get the battery out....

Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.

Try NetFront 3.5 for the ultimate web experience on a phone It's a class of it's own
You can get it here.
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html

Picsel browser is fast and smooth and does a nice job of re-formatting, also reads .PDF files and a bunch of other things
Opera mini 4.1 is very good for browsing although I don't like the way you input web addresses, and lack of file save features.
And for tabbed browsing newest Opera or Pieplus

briggs81 said:
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
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Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..

I love netfront 3.5 The site rendering on the pda is perfect.
Just try it but be do it quick as the concept version will stop 31 may 2008

thegr8one23 said:
Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
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If the player on the page is based on Flash then possibly yes...

I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?

bigboyhf said:
I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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Not sure what the fascination is with playing YouTube thru the browser. I am not a real big YouTube user but I find that vTap is more than sufficient at playing whatever it is I need.

Skyfire 1.5 supports WVGA resolution on Leo :)

I've just installed it (you can download it from http://www.skyfire.com ) and is working nicely in WVGA resolution.

Thanks, just tried it out.
Not as fast as Opera 9.7 it seems and no multi-touch support.

Gonna try it soon.
Really wondering if this will actually work. It's cool now with flashfix for opera, but there are still alot of video sites I can't watch.
Watch any video
Looking for a free mobile video player? YouTube, Yahoo Video, any web video - you name it - it's playing on Skyfire. Skyfire is the only mobile browser that supports full Flash and Windows Media videos, including Flash 10 and Silverlight 2.0. You can even watch TV on your phone!
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It really works!!! Even flash games on neopets work. So does veoh, youtube, vimeo and other sites. Much smoother than IE. Only lags if you try to zoom via pinching.

Works great!
Tested quite some sites, and most of them worked.
If you pan around the page, the video goes quite slow, but if you just stay on 1 place, it goes at a nice speed too.

YES it works! but it doesn't support video streaming sites that are regional I'm in Hong Kong and want to watch some documentary dramas and it says it's not available as I think their (skyfire team) is elsewhere
Great program though!

wow, it is MUCH slower than the previous version.

This is not quite actually wvga resolution, it fits the wvga screen of the HD2 but you can see is not as clear as Opera is. The flash, quicktime, wm player etc integration is indeed something that makes this app a must-have.
EDIT: Whoops, sorry, i now see that you guys were talking about the newly 1.5 version my bad, this one supports wvga i think

Pretty slow compared to Opera 9.7, but full flash support is definitely nice to have.

trying to get nba.com videos to work and doesnt which sux

Default Browser
Very insteresting.
According that I'm interessted by Skyfire only for flash pages, I would like to keep Opera as my defaut browser.
Is it the case after installing Skyfire.

Skyfire will give you options to set if you would like to make it the default or keep what you have now. I only will use skyfire for youtube PLAYLISTS watching and listening to programs as the YOUTUBE program do not do that I as far as I know.

Does Skyfire work in landscape. At moment everything in Portrait.

Wow - it is MUCH improved. Skyfire was always such a painful experience before
As for rotation - I suspect you'll need an app such as Gyrator to make it work. It works fine on mine.

LeeMC79 said:
Wow - it is MUCH improved. Skyfire was always such a painful experience before
As for rotation - I suspect you'll need an app such as Gyrator to make it work. It works fine on mine.
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You mean the screen rotates without any software on yours?

if you install chainfire's alternative 3d driverpack for leo, skyfire works a lot smoother, especially scrolling through webpages...

glenner05 said:
if you install chainfire's alternative 3d driverpack for leo, skyfire works a lot smoother, especially scrolling through webpages...
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Have you got a link for that?
Strike that, found them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663

Pagnell said:
Have you got a link for that?
Strike that, found them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663
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Thanks Pagnell!

youtube videos are still laggy and there is no accelerometer so that you can watch youtube vids in full screen

gavinfabl said:
You mean the screen rotates without any software on yours?
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No sorry (I wasn't very clear) - I have Gyrator installed

Is Skyfire the only way to watch SouthPark episodes and Veoh on my Tilt 2?

Just wondering if Skyfire is the only way that I can watch SouthPark episodes from their website and videos from Veoh.com
Thanks

shaolin95 said:
Just wondering if Skyfire is the only way that I can watch SouthPark episodes from their website and videos from Veoh.com
Thanks
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Well, Skyfire seems to be the only Browser supporting FlashVideo. I had to make the same experience. But i gotta say Skyfire runs smoother and faster on my XDA Diamond than Opera does, so i never searched for an alternative browser.
I hope my answer helped you out a bit

i would say Skyfire would be the only way as of now..
opera is good but doesnt have full flash support
and ie only has flash lite..
the thing i dont like about skyfire is, the text isnt as sharp and smooth looking like on opera and ie also that durn checker board comes up! but the skyfire has come a long way since the very 1st time i used it

try netaccel mach5, has some nice flash video features with smooth playing compare to skyfire, its not free but has 15 day trial with full features.

Isn't Mach 5 the same thing as Skyfire?

I tried Mach5 and it works VERY nicely indeed.
It works different to Skyfire though.
For example, when I go to VEOH.com and play a video, I see the video starting to show on the browser then a pop up says that a video wants to play and asks me if I want to play it.
I say yes and it plays it from a separate applications and is a LOT smoother than on Skyfire.
Does the same with ABC
South Park is a different story though...it loads it on the browser instead of trying to open a separate app to run it but I get no audio and it looks slow although still faster than Skyfire....I contacted them about this. If they can fix this then it is worth buying for me.

Moved as not software release.

Not software related? Isn't Skyfire a piece of software?

shaolin95 said:
Not software related? Isn't Skyfire a piece of software?
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You are not releasing software, you are have a question about a piece of software hence Q&A
RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT & HACKING

oh yeah that would be the day...my last program was done on a Tandy Coco

shaolin95 said:
oh yeah that would be the day...my last program was done on a Tandy Coco
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sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, so i wont reply to this!

That wasn't sarcasm, it is actually true. I started doing basic programming on my COCO but dropped it fast and never tried it again except my brief attempts at learning C which always stop in about a month.

New：Full-featured browser（ Uzard ）Support flash

Full-featured browser (Uzard) support flash
Similar speed and Opera 10
Please forgive my poor English
wvga version
Individual Test experience: play video,support WIFI hotspot; can upload / download files; most important thing is can quickly . . . . . . . BUG: prone to dropped calls, I do not know whether use the connection (network) related？
All in all; is a powerful browser
download experience will know..

This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us

I have to say, although I have barely used this new browser, I am very impressed with what I have experienced so far.
Excellent job.

It's similar to Mach5 Web, is there anything to do with it?

I like the browser. It will play Hulu videos. The only thing I don't like is that it detects videos and plays them in its own player. In its own player the videos are playing normal. If for example a site has a video ad then the clip you want to watch, the ad opens in the player then the clip stays in the browser and is very slow. If you try a video with Hulu, you will see what I mean.
Just to compare: Skyfire is blocked with Hulu, Opera seems to work but needs Flash 10

Brill
Fantastic - must be a catch somewhere. If i had to pay for this I would. Only issue so far is TVcatchup.com - won't play vids because it says i'm non UK - but i am. Any woraround for this?

Good browser only thing is that if video is detected it work like a charm
But if not you can't even watch the video it is very slow and you got now sound ...
So the only thing that should be improved is the video detecting mode.

Here is the website: uzard.com/en/main/main.asp

does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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the download is the P version... the H version should be a better choice? am i right? like opera mini vs. mobile.

shu8i said:
does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.

I can't find anything but their homepage
I tried it, but the only thing I get is their homepage,tried xda,google opera,all I get is page not found on my hd2,I'm in australia,but surely that should'nt matter,pity it looks promising

jan-willem3 said:
Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.
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sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...

shu8i said:
sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...
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Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.

Pretty fast and most of the sites I tried worked without issues. Much better than skyfire, but still not in the vicinity of opera mobile 10. Got a lot of connection errors, but that is to be expected considering it's still in beta. Scrolling is pretty bad, but at least I always got the desktop version of the webpage(especially irritating with opera). Gonna keep an eye on this one for sure!

I tried it just now..
Flash ,Browsing works for me without issues
Good Work
Best Regards

REALLY NICE ! Videos are working very well and speedly ! ANd not only on Youtube : all flash in working great !
Simply very fast !
Already love it !
Ps : skin editable by open the exe file on pc, but it's about 1000 files to change ...

also works with megavideo. although beta, is certainly one of the best around.

Tx a lot for this tip ! Wouldn´t have found it on my own.
It´s the first browser that fully works with my online aviation weather planning program "Skyview". Also shows iGoogle-page fully and clickable. Videos work nicely (with sound)
Although beta, seems to have good potential to beat skyfire, maybe once even opera.
The only pain ita is that it doesn´t save pwds and that rotation has to be done manually. Will try now to add it to rotation in BsB .........
Will have a close look on further devs of this nice browser.
Once again: Tx for hinting

Finezt said:
This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us
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How can I watch video in opera 10 . It doesn't show

jan-willem3 said:
Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.
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I didn't get that on hulu
the flash played natively in the browser but no sound =/
I'll try another video site

[Q] HD2 needs browser with full flash

hey guys..
okay so this is really pissing me off.. there is not ONE browser out there that supports all kinds of flash.. ive tried opera default, 10, internet explorer, skyfire( which doesnt work in my country!) and iris, which is great but still doesnt support all kinds of flash e.g. stream videos..
can someone help me out?

try m.opera.com on the device and install correct version or download freeware uzard web browser ..hope this helps

intelintelintel said:
hey guys..
okay so this is really pissing me off.. there is not ONE browser out there that supports all kinds of flash.. ive tried opera default, 10, internet explorer, skyfire( which doesnt work in my country!) and iris, which is great but still doesnt support all kinds of flash e.g. stream videos..
can someone help me out?
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the is a patch for opera 9.5 and 9.7 allows to to get a flash addon. its here some place on xda. i have it. u can search for operafix

Moschino02 said:
try m.opera.com on the device and install correct version or download freeware uzard web browser ..hope this helps
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bdaboy338 said:
the is a patch for opera 9.5 and 9.7 allows to to get a flash addon. its here some place on xda. i have it. u can search for operafix
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He is asking for a browser supporting ALL versions of flash - AFAIK there is no plugin for Opera that supports Flash 10. I've been using Uzard alot and have to say that it gets the closest to full flash support I've seen.

MAMeingast said:
He is asking for a browser supporting ALL versions of flash - AFAIK there is no plugin for Opera that supports Flash 10. I've been using Uzard alot and have to say that it gets the closest to full flash support I've seen.
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Agreed, Uzard isnt bad but not the perfect solution. I havent yet but mate flashed his HD2 to android and said the flash on this system works great, fast etc. Much better than Uzard :-(

rexboy said:
Agreed, Uzard isnt bad but not the perfect solution. I havent yet but mate flashed his HD2 to android and said the flash on this system works great, fast etc. Much better than Uzard :-(
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And he is right! Tried it myself and I was very impressed!

I have opera 10 and on advanced settings, the is an option for
(plug-ings) on/off. flash works great on mine now, hope this helps

anag7771 said:
I have opera 10 and on advanced settings, the is an option for
(plug-ings) on/off. flash works great on mine now, hope this helps
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Does it work on every site? I doubt it! It shouldn't be able to play Flash 10!

Skyfire plays ALL flash on any website (tried it on myself with misc sites) WORKS 100 %
You can get it from OMarket!!

q9650 said:
Skyfire plays ALL flash on any website (tried it on myself with misc sites) WORKS 100 %
You can get it from OMarket!!
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skyfire isn´t supported in every country and it can´t really handle flash on all sites. if your watching a video it isn´t very fluid. no comparison to the android version of skyfire or the froyo browser.
i think uzard is the best you can get on winmo at the moment.

rauschkugl said:
skyfire isn´t supported in every country and it can´t really handle flash on all sites. if your watching a video it isn´t very fluid. no comparison to the android version of skyfire or the froyo browser.
i think uzard is the best you can get on winmo at the moment.
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+1 exactly!

Haven't tried Uzard, but will. I hear it's good. Skyfire is hit & miss for me. I can watch some videos, with a lag. But it won't play YouTube! So it is only a temporary solution until something better comes along, like Uzard from what I am hearing.

I tried everything for Wm and skyfire and uzard are the closest you'll get to full flash but its not perfect.
I just boot into android (froyo builds) to get proper flash 10.1 sites.
Would highly recommend it. BBC iplayer works brilliant through the froyo browser.
All the flash sites I tried (like miniclip.com) were much better on android than on uzard/skyfire/wm
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alrite thanks! ill try uzard right now

according to the uzard website, it supports VGA and QVGA and as far as i know hd2 is WVGA.

how to set all the page fit into the screen? I dont want to move arround.

I don't like uzard because when I try to rewind a video it starts all over.

skilty said:
I tried everything for Wm and skyfire and uzard are the closest you'll get to full flash but its not perfect.
I just boot into android (froyo builds) to get proper flash 10.1 sites.
Would highly recommend it. BBC iplayer works brilliant through the froyo browser.
All the flash sites I tried (like miniclip.com) were much better on android than on uzard/skyfire/wm
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I have to say that i agree here, while booting into android is a pain just to watch a flash video, the performance is impressive... video sizes to screen very nice and is quick.
If you are just missing youtube though have you tried the you tube app? I have had great success with that...

It will be good if we have true full flash support browser on windows mobile but personally i prefer to go on android... and the fact that hd2 soon will have android flashable rom makes me excited a lot!!

Is there a chance that the upcoming Adobe Flash 10.1 for Windows mobile 7 can be ripped for using with WM 6.5(.X)?