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Decent Web Browser at all?

I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.

The choppy video is probably because of the driver issues (you can read more about it in the forums if you search a little)
And did you get opera 8.5 bundled with your phone? Opera 9.5 is much smoother and better looking than the 8.5 version (imo), and i'll suggest you try upgrading to it to see if there is any difference.

I watched the video regarding Opera 9.5 but its still not released, and by the looks of what I gathered from other forums, people are becoming impatient.
Im currently using Opera 8.65 and no it wasnt bundled with my phone.
So will those driver issues fix the choppy video playback?.
Normal videos saved to the device work fine its just the online ones that use a flash applet like dailymotion

Try Skyfire (you'll have to sign up for it), is really amazing, is very fast and smooth

thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
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Need to do some more research on it before you get it I guess.
Anyways, CorePlayer, TCMP player all play videos fine.
ALL browsers are FINE and work great for different things.
I myself use pocket IE for sites that are in mobile format, and opera 9.5 "beta" for sites that are not in mobile format. I would use opera mobile if it wouldn't install over my 9.5, instead of pocket IE, but all my text based sites work fine in pocket IE (ebay, paypal, howardforums, flickr, youtube, etc)
I don't really know who watches youtube videos or other internet based videos via their browser, I've always seen them being watched through TCMP, CorePlayer, WMP streaming or HTC streaming media.
There are no official driver updates coming.
I am unsure as to the technology that Dailymotion uses, but if it's youtube based then you should have no problems.
I think you are looking for a desktop in a pocketpc, which no one has quite yet. Maybe an HTC advantage, who knows.
Doesnt matter what phone you have, all software will run the same if the devices were made in the same time frame.
Oh and I assume orbit 2 is in Europe somewhere? None the less, Skyfire is available to U.S. numbers only apparently for it's beta. Maybe NetFront would work for you, try that. I hated it.

thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
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Have you tried Opera Mini? Their new beta v4.1 can be downloaded and really works great. My favorite browser so far.

try opera with limit paragraph on. that's amazing.

Opera 9 (beta) is working really well, especially for a beta. Panning in web pages is pretty smooth most of the time and as the above poster said, with limit paragraph on, reading articles on news sites, etc is doable.
The negatives are it is a beta so bugs here and there. Other issues are the touch keyboards (numbers only) don't work and neither does pocketCM (space between every character). I don't believe there is flash support in the browser either.
I use PIE for youtube/flashbundle combo.

whats flash bundle?

do a search on it. it allows you to watch videos from sites like youtube (the real youtube not the mobile version of it). those sites use flash video and the flashbundle is a plugin for PIE that enables that functionality in PIE.

I have the flash 7 plugin, is that the same thing?
Whenever i try and load the non-mobile version of u-tube on PIE,
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!

thegr8one23 said:
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
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You know there is a little round hole on the bottom of the device next to the USB called the 'Reset Hole"??? Put the stylus in it and you won't have to get the battery out....

Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.

Try NetFront 3.5 for the ultimate web experience on a phone It's a class of it's own
You can get it here.
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html

Picsel browser is fast and smooth and does a nice job of re-formatting, also reads .PDF files and a bunch of other things
Opera mini 4.1 is very good for browsing although I don't like the way you input web addresses, and lack of file save features.
And for tabbed browsing newest Opera or Pieplus

briggs81 said:
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
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Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..

I love netfront 3.5 The site rendering on the pda is perfect.
Just try it but be do it quick as the concept version will stop 31 may 2008

thegr8one23 said:
Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
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If the player on the page is based on Flash then possibly yes...

I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?

bigboyhf said:
I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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Not sure what the fascination is with playing YouTube thru the browser. I am not a real big YouTube user but I find that vTap is more than sufficient at playing whatever it is I need.

Youtube App

Hello guys.
Have any of you had problems trying to view coreplayer youtube?
Apparently it is a problem so us TG01 Cannot view youtube because we are running an outdated version of coreplayer.
We will not be receiving an update therefore we cannot view youtube through coreplayer.
So i have tried downloading and installing various youtube applications, but none of them seem to support TG01 WVGA display coming out blurry.
I have tried: Google Youtube (blurry), HTC Youtube App (unable to play videos), YoutubePlay (blurry)
Can anyone suggest a good free youtube app (cab) that is fully functional and supports its screen resolution. I cannot find one!
(pleased do not suggest flash browsers i.e skyfire i have tried them and not impressed would prefer a built application.)
Thank you much apprieciated,
Oliver

KINOMA player work perfect, with seach engine very nice. is amazing!!!

sorry not the answer you're looking for, but INHO the latest version of the google app is pretty decent...
you could also try opera 10 as this now supports youtube or skyfire (which is my new best friend as far as flash based sites go)
or you could buy the latest coreplayer (no, i wouldn't either)
lemme know if you need me to post any cabs, i have all i mention above (bar the paid version of coreplayer)
cheers

adzman808 said:
sorry not the answer you're looking for, but INHO the latest version of the google app is pretty decent...
you could also try opera 10 as this now supports youtube or skyfire (which is my new best friend as far as flash based sites go)
or you could buy the latest coreplayer (no, i wouldn't either)
lemme know if you need me to post any cabs, i have all i mention above (bar the paid version of coreplayer)
cheers
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Re Core Player - I already had the paid Core Player from previous devices and can confirm taht the latest edition works fine, while the one that was included in the TG01 ROM doesn't - it was one key bug they sorted in the last update.

eekthecat said:
KINOMA player work perfect, with seach engine very nice. is amazing!!!
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thanks for your reply. i have forgot to mention, i have also tried the free version of kinoma play before. it does not allow you to view youtube videos, unless you upgrade to the full version which I am not willing to.thanks for suggestion any way.
Oliver

adzman808 said:
sorry not the answer you're looking for, but INHO the latest version of the google app is pretty decent...
you could also try opera 10 as this now supports youtube or skyfire (which is my new best friend as far as flash based sites go)
or you could buy the latest coreplayer (no, i wouldn't either)
lemme know if you need me to post any cabs, i have all i mention above (bar the paid version of coreplayer)
cheers
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thanks for your reply.
I agree with you, i am not willing to pay to upgrade my coreplayer version. i already had opera mobile 10 as my default browser, but am not to keen on watching youtube on that.
as my first post stated, i have also used skyfire aswell, but i wouldpprefer to view youtube through a built in application rather than a flash browser.
I have also just tried the latest google youtube app. still no screen resolution fix...
any other suggestions?
thanks for your help,
Oliver

olyloh6696 said:
thanks for your reply.
I agree with you, i am not willing to pay to upgrade my coreplayer version. i already had opera mobile 10 as my default browser, but am not to keen on watching youtube on that.
as my first post stated, i have also used skyfire aswell, but i wouldpprefer to view youtube through a built in application rather than a flash browser.
I have also just tried the latest google youtube app. still no screen resolution fix...
any other suggestions?
thanks for your help,
Oliver
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I use Youtubeplay with success on TG01. My version is v1.0.0.11
http://tinyurl.com/youtubeplay
You can even download videos as FLV with it.
You say that videos are blurry. In fact some few videos are blurry but most of them are OK, I think that it depends of the source, not the player...
Greetings from BCN

i agree with olly, i've got the exact same problem. Ibelieve what he is asking for is an app called WVD which no longer works, it capabilities of viewing youtube vidz in 3gp, flv and mp4, and allowed you to download all videos. it was extremely fast aswel.

anyone know of a similar app or good substitube for WVD?

Hey brian,
In arag0ns manilla rom, he includes a working htc youtube app. If you are not looking to flash a new rom, perhaps you could contqct him and ask him if he could kindly provide us with a cab of A working HTC Youtoube.

htc manilla youtube app that can be found in aragon's roms isnt bad ... but it doesnt support Accounts !! so u have no idea if u got any new subbed videos
best thing rite now is m.youtube.com , and trust me i know it was ****ty last time u checked it , opening a stupid player app , but theyve stepped up their game and have account management , Flash player embedded , not the best quality but its lightweight and responsive .

Is Skyfire the only way to watch SouthPark episodes and Veoh on my Tilt 2?

Just wondering if Skyfire is the only way that I can watch SouthPark episodes from their website and videos from Veoh.com
Thanks

shaolin95 said:
Just wondering if Skyfire is the only way that I can watch SouthPark episodes from their website and videos from Veoh.com
Thanks
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Well, Skyfire seems to be the only Browser supporting FlashVideo. I had to make the same experience. But i gotta say Skyfire runs smoother and faster on my XDA Diamond than Opera does, so i never searched for an alternative browser.
I hope my answer helped you out a bit

i would say Skyfire would be the only way as of now..
opera is good but doesnt have full flash support
and ie only has flash lite..
the thing i dont like about skyfire is, the text isnt as sharp and smooth looking like on opera and ie also that durn checker board comes up! but the skyfire has come a long way since the very 1st time i used it

try netaccel mach5, has some nice flash video features with smooth playing compare to skyfire, its not free but has 15 day trial with full features.

Isn't Mach 5 the same thing as Skyfire?

I tried Mach5 and it works VERY nicely indeed.
It works different to Skyfire though.
For example, when I go to VEOH.com and play a video, I see the video starting to show on the browser then a pop up says that a video wants to play and asks me if I want to play it.
I say yes and it plays it from a separate applications and is a LOT smoother than on Skyfire.
Does the same with ABC
South Park is a different story though...it loads it on the browser instead of trying to open a separate app to run it but I get no audio and it looks slow although still faster than Skyfire....I contacted them about this. If they can fix this then it is worth buying for me.

Moved as not software release.

Not software related? Isn't Skyfire a piece of software?

shaolin95 said:
Not software related? Isn't Skyfire a piece of software?
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You are not releasing software, you are have a question about a piece of software hence Q&A
RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT & HACKING

oh yeah that would be the day...my last program was done on a Tandy Coco

shaolin95 said:
oh yeah that would be the day...my last program was done on a Tandy Coco
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sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, so i wont reply to this!

That wasn't sarcasm, it is actually true. I started doing basic programming on my COCO but dropped it fast and never tried it again except my brief attempts at learning C which always stop in about a month.

Skyfire is LIVE on the android market!

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/29/skyfire-2-0-for-android-launching-today/

The way they do flash is a pretty neat idea. Heh. =)

It is back up on the Market, you can download it there.

someone try hulu -- i can't do it myself at the moment and i'm curious to see how it works(if at all)

Just tested it. Gotta say.
It's bad.
The pinch to zoom is horrible and I don't care if they can play flash. I'll wait for Froyo. Lol. Stock browser seems to be the best for me so far. Haha.

chowlala said:
Just tested it. Gotta say.
It's bad.
The pinch to zoom is horrible and I don't care if they can play flash. I'll wait for Froyo. Lol. Stock browser seems to be the best for me so far. Haha.
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I agree, not running the way it does on the HD2. I will wait till the official beta release of flash 10.1 mobile!

It's nice, and playing flash is great, but it's pretty choppy.
I'll stick with Fennec for now, I can wait for an official Flash release.

Haven't tried pinch zoom, but flash playback worked flawless for me on tmo 3g. loaded up thedailyshow.com and was able to watch a full episode without an issue

Why don't they have this running like it was on my T-Mobile Dash 3G? This is garbage. No flash in the browser. Only flash videos. For example, Strong Bad Emails loads up on my Dash as it would on my PC, but with Skyfire for Android, all I get are those damn boxes with question marks in them. This is a huge let down. Not at all what I expected from Skyfire. As far as I'm concerned, this is fail. Especially with true Flash support around the corner from Adobe. Skyfire had a chance to beat them to the punch here, and they failed. Embarrassing if you ask me.

Doesn't seem to work with all flash videos but its still pretty quick. Anyone know of a good way to test this cloud speed compared to any other browser?

After trying it out for a few minutes i figured out that it does load most videos. I cant check hulu since im a canuck thought. sometimes you simply need to refresh the page and it will find the video. i also found that if you load up the video and it just shows a white box it will always freeze at 25%. This is easily fixed by backing out and reloading the video. Whenever i saw a screenshot of the video while it loaded, it always loaded full.
sites tried and all worked.
crackberry.com
ign.com
xvideos.com ( hey... its strickly educational!)

I cannot actually tell whether this is using the cloud as claimed or not.
For example, using opera mini and visiting what's my ip will show an Opera ip confirming that your days is traveling via opera and is bring compressed etc.
Skyfire doesn't - it shows my ip and renders almost identical to the stock browser. Pages do seem to load a but quicker but that could just be because I'm expecting them to.
maybe I'll run netstat and see whether skyfire actually connects to a skyfire server when rendering a normal page..

apacheo said:
I cannot actually tell whether this is using the cloud as claimed or not.
For example, using opera mini and visiting what's my ip will show an Opera ip confirming that your days is traveling via opera and is bring compressed etc.
Skyfire doesn't - it shows my ip and renders almost identical to the stock browser. Pages do seem to load a but quicker but that could just be because I'm expecting them to.
maybe I'll run netstat and see whether skyfire actually connects to a skyfire server when rendering a normal page..
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No need, I can tell you the answer:
All web pages/normal browsing is done on the device, and is rendered using webkit, and not through a proxy, a la Opera. This is the same reason videos can't be displayed inline. The only time the cloud is used is for transcoding video. If you were to watch a netstat while watching a flash video, you'd see your device connecting to Skyfire's servers.

No need, I can tell you the answer:
All web pages/normal browsing is done on the device, and is rendered using webkit, and not through a proxy, a la Opera. This is the same reason videos can't be displayed inline. The only time the cloud is used is for transcoding video. If you were to watch a netstat while watching a flash video, you'd see your device connecting to Skyfire's servers.
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That's pretty crap. One of Skyfire's attractions was that it worked like Opera Mini but rendered pages better. If its just the stock browser essentially with the ability to watch flash videos then it's of little value.
Lame D:

Keep in mind its still beta, it will get better.

apacheo said:
That's pretty crap. One of Skyfire's attractions was that it worked like Opera Mini but rendered pages better. If its just the stock browser essentially with the ability to watch flash videos then it's of little value.
Lame D:
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In my opinion, it doesn't work any worse than the stock browser, so it's still worth using. You're still getting the ability to watch flash videos(which has worked well in my experience), plus you get sleeker tabbed browsing and easy user agent switching right in the toolbar.

The only Flash Video I have been able to get to play are the ones on the sites pre-bookmarked on the Stock Skyfire Homepage. When it doesn't work, I get the Video popup, click on it. The video loads, looks like it starts to buffer and then, instead of playing it reads something to the effect of, Content not available for your device. We're sorry for the Inconvenience.
I haven't tested a lot of sites but no Hulu, no YouPorn, and worst of all, no Sirius Satellite Radio, like i could do on WinMo a year ago.
On the plus side, its nice to have the full Google Voice site available on the phone and Google Wave seems to be rendering nicely.

Great start, flash works good for me on tmo 3g. Videos look great. Rendering is good and quick. Like others said pinch to zoom needs work, but this is now my second favorite browser behind HTC sense browser.
I tested
IGN - Works
Gametrailers - Doesnt
Espn - Works
Facebook - Doesnt
thedailyshow - works
Abc.com - Works! (watching full episode of better off ted !)
Worldstarhiphop - Works

MvP77 said:
Great start, flash works good for me on tmo 3g. Videos look great. Rendering is good and quick. Like others said pinch to zoom needs work, but this is now my second favorite browser behind HTC sense browser.
I tested
IGN - Works
Gametrailers - Doesnt
Espn - Works
Facebook - Doesnt
thedailyshow - works
Abc.com - Works!
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Yeah, I tried it on the daily show as well, and it worked great. Due to the way this is set up, it'd be impossible for them to cover every site. I noticed they do have a 'report non-working video' option in the menu, so people may want to try using that to help improve the service.

I noticed that you can pinch to zoom and with two fingers still on the screen you can scoll around the page.

New：Full-featured browser（ Uzard ）Support flash

Full-featured browser (Uzard) support flash
Similar speed and Opera 10
Please forgive my poor English
wvga version
Individual Test experience: play video,support WIFI hotspot; can upload / download files; most important thing is can quickly . . . . . . . BUG: prone to dropped calls, I do not know whether use the connection (network) related？
All in all; is a powerful browser
download experience will know..

This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us

I have to say, although I have barely used this new browser, I am very impressed with what I have experienced so far.
Excellent job.

It's similar to Mach5 Web, is there anything to do with it?

I like the browser. It will play Hulu videos. The only thing I don't like is that it detects videos and plays them in its own player. In its own player the videos are playing normal. If for example a site has a video ad then the clip you want to watch, the ad opens in the player then the clip stays in the browser and is very slow. If you try a video with Hulu, you will see what I mean.
Just to compare: Skyfire is blocked with Hulu, Opera seems to work but needs Flash 10

Brill
Fantastic - must be a catch somewhere. If i had to pay for this I would. Only issue so far is TVcatchup.com - won't play vids because it says i'm non UK - but i am. Any woraround for this?

Good browser only thing is that if video is detected it work like a charm
But if not you can't even watch the video it is very slow and you got now sound ...
So the only thing that should be improved is the video detecting mode.

Here is the website: uzard.com/en/main/main.asp

does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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the download is the P version... the H version should be a better choice? am i right? like opera mini vs. mobile.

shu8i said:
does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.

I can't find anything but their homepage
I tried it, but the only thing I get is their homepage,tried xda,google opera,all I get is page not found on my hd2,I'm in australia,but surely that should'nt matter,pity it looks promising

jan-willem3 said:
Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.
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sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...

shu8i said:
sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...
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Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.

Pretty fast and most of the sites I tried worked without issues. Much better than skyfire, but still not in the vicinity of opera mobile 10. Got a lot of connection errors, but that is to be expected considering it's still in beta. Scrolling is pretty bad, but at least I always got the desktop version of the webpage(especially irritating with opera). Gonna keep an eye on this one for sure!

I tried it just now..
Flash ,Browsing works for me without issues
Good Work
Best Regards

REALLY NICE ! Videos are working very well and speedly ! ANd not only on Youtube : all flash in working great !
Simply very fast !
Already love it !
Ps : skin editable by open the exe file on pc, but it's about 1000 files to change ...

also works with megavideo. although beta, is certainly one of the best around.

Tx a lot for this tip ! Wouldn´t have found it on my own.
It´s the first browser that fully works with my online aviation weather planning program "Skyview". Also shows iGoogle-page fully and clickable. Videos work nicely (with sound)
Although beta, seems to have good potential to beat skyfire, maybe once even opera.
The only pain ita is that it doesn´t save pwds and that rotation has to be done manually. Will try now to add it to rotation in BsB .........
Will have a close look on further devs of this nice browser.
Once again: Tx for hinting

Finezt said:
This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us
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How can I watch video in opera 10 . It doesn't show

jan-willem3 said:
Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.
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I didn't get that on hulu
the flash played natively in the browser but no sound =/
I'll try another video site