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Big question, which one?

So what's a better buy, since I am confused and conflicted as to what to get.
Motorola Milestone or Nexus One/Desire?
I actually have no clue, its confusing to think which one and every time I think I decide I go back to the middle.
And I know that for the Nexus One, this website has one strong modding front behind it, but I have no idea where, if any, modding movement exists for the Droid, since I haven't found anything on this forum.
What are your thoughts on it?

aniteshj said:
So what's a better buy, since I am confused and conflicted as to what to get.
Motorola Milestone or Nexus One/Desire?
I actually have no clue, its confusing to think which one and every time I think I decide I go back to the middle.
And I know that for the Nexus One, this website has one strong modding front behind it, but I have no idea where, if any, modding movement exists for the Droid, since I haven't found anything on this forum.
What are your thoughts on it?
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I personally have the N1 and also have T-mobiles "droids" aka cliqs... Htc is far better when it comes to hardware. I suggest the N1!

In my experience - if I want to get google/android updates ASAP I would only go with whatever google choses to sleep with (stock i.e. without any skin)
For GSM that would be the Nexus One.

dextroz said:
In my experience - if I want to get google/android updates ASAP I would only go with whatever google choses to sleep with (stock i.e. without any skin)
For GSM that would be the Nexus One.
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Aha no Droid love? Is there a site dedicated to Droid mods like this has a section for Nexus development as well?

aniteshj said:
Aha no Droid love? Is there a site dedicated to Droid mods like this has a section for Nexus development as well?
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nope, moto is lacking in the game... plus nexus isnt a branded phone... its a HTC/GOOGLE not a T-mobile/AT&T/Sprint/V-word phone that should be enough to go by in your choice...

I'm also kind of in a boat like this one. I have a G1 and desperately want to upgrade. I'm considering the EVO since Austin has a 4G tower here. The prices and plans are attractive too. The one thing holding me back however is the hotspot feature in froyo. Sprint will almost certainly cut this feature out of the froyo update for the EVO since they want to charge 30 bucks a month to use that. I'm wondering if there will be a version of froyo from cyanogen (or the many other developers out there) for the evo to circumvent this (not to mention to get rid of the Sense UI).

This isn't any easier a decision to make now aha.

I vote for Motorola milestone
considering its hardware keyboard

I have a Milestone and the hardware keyboard is useful, but I don't like the way Motorola have locked down the bootloader.
That means that even when rooted, we are limited in what can be hacked about!
I will be getting rid of the Milestone and getting a Desire soon if that tells you anything.
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stooby said:
I have a Milestone and the hardware keyboard is useful, but I don't like the way Motorola have locked down the bootloader.
That means that even when rooted, we are limited in what can be hacked about!
I will be getting rid of the Milestone and getting a Desire soon if that tells you anything.
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I see what you mean, well I've put in a few offers to some used N1s, my local shop stopped carrying them!!!

If you do not have any need for a hardware keyboard N1 will be better beause of the faster CPU.
If you like hardware keyboards like me you will forget about N1.
There are quite a few forums with support for the Droid/ Milestone.

Depends on the kind of work you want to do. If all you want is a shiny super modded device with great screen contrast (excluding touchscreen response) and speed and early updates, get Nexus One.
If you need to do a lot of typing and/or need better screen response, get Milestone.
While milestone doesn't have a dedicated community behind it, doing lots of rom porting, most of the useful N1 mods work on it. Also, it is a very solid and well built phone. The build quality compared to nexus one is equally good, if not better. You can also get it overclocked to about 1.2GHz which makes it run superfast, if you are worried about speed.

Nexus 2 made by samsung, looks like galaxy s hardware

http://gizmodo.com/5676008/hands-on-the-nexus-two-by-samsung

I love my Galaxy S, but this is a bit disappointing.
I was hoping for something that would push the bar - like a 4" Super AMOLED with a dual-core processor or something nuts like the N1 was over it's generation.
On the bright side, it does show that the Android lineup is a lot stronger than it was before.

it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?

Yeah... I'm hoping this means we'll actually get timely updates in the future.

kuherrm said:
it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?
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This. This could be the single best thing if the ROMs can be easily ported and Google is in charge of software updates like they were with the Nexus One.
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this is one of the worst ... i dont know if i should even call it an article, but just so we can reference to it properly we will.
first, googles nexus one was very innovative, it showed a real and true glimpse into the future. for the second one there is no way they will take a step back and use some current hardware that has already been out for a while.
this is my opinion of what i believe is in the best interest of google.
so to pick on the article a little bit.
they keep refering back to the galaxy s line, which according to the "article" the only thing that was similar between them was how they looked, it says specifically that they had no idea what it had inside of it lol.
it states that the "nexus 2" was far less impressive than the n1, so what are they going by to support this statement? how it looked (opinion) and what they guess is inside of it? furthermore he didnt even know what kind of screen it had on the outside, he thinks it is an oled 4"... but not really sure, but one thing is for sure, it is "flat"

kuherrm said:
it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?
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This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the article.... omnomnomnom

I agree whole-heartedly.

kuherrm said:
it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?
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that's all i can think about right now .
galaxy s with AOSP gingerbread and google rolling out updates every month? amazing.

If the Nexus 2 is a rebadged and tweaked Galaxy S, then we have just been handed a great gift. Google and a significant portion of the android developer community will move on to our platform, and will tweak the device to their hearts desire. This means we will be at the front of the line to get any updates. And almost all new software will be compatible to our phones. Won't we love to be in the news as one of the first phones to get Gingerbread, Honeycomb, and IceCream, rather that the last ones to get Froyo.

insaneturbo13 said:
it states that the "nexus 2" was far less impressive than the n1, so what are they going by to support this statement? how it looked (opinion) and what they guess is inside of it? furthermore he didnt even know what kind of screen it had on the outside, he thinks it is an oled 4"... but not really sure, but one thing is for sure, it is "flat"
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My question is how the heck can you not be sure if you're looking at an oled screen??
I obviously can't speak for anyone else but I can usually tell within the first second of looking at a screen if it's oled or not... if you don't believe me try putting an iphone and a 'real' phone like the N1 or the captivate side by side, then have them play the same video.

this should end the GPS debate as well. if the nexus two uses our chip, we'll either get a soft fix or we'll know our hardware is defective. if it uses a different chip, we know ours is broken forever.

More info/confirmation from PCMag. Too bad no confirmation on the hardware part; other than how it looks...
FTA:
yes, Samsung is working on an unlocked Android device that looks like the one in Gizmodo's pictures. But it may not be called "Nexus Two," my sources said.
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I for one dont care if the hardware was the same and the phone looked like that(most likely wont). As long as you give me stock Gingerbread Rom, no ATT crap and a working GPS, I will be picking one up.

Wish that they stuck with the Nexus 1 hardware and tweaked it. I love my phone... but why google is using Samsung is beyond me.
I wonder if Google did ANY research before signing the deal on this? Obviously they never looked on GOOGLE for issues with Samsung Galaxy S devices. Their marketing team should be drawn and quartered.
But... with all that being said - if Samsung is just pumping out the hardware and Google is the one providing the software without Sammy's thumb in the pie - it might be a halfway decent device.
Also.. was the lil tabby thing sticking out from the bottom of the phone?

nr2134 said:
I for one dont care if the hardware was the same and the phone looked like that(most likely wont). As long as you give me stock Gingerbread Rom, no ATT crap and a working GPS, I will be picking one up.
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I think that the point, at least for the majority of Captivate owners (are you not one yourself?) in this forum, is that when/if said phone is released, there won't be any need to buy it in order to get the stock rom you're referring to, as it would most likely be easily ported over to the Captivate.

t-readyroc said:
I think that the point, at least for the majority of Captivate owners (are you not one yourself?) in this forum, is that when/if said phone is released, there won't be any need to buy it in order to get the stock rom you're referring to, as it would most likely be easily ported over to the Captivate.
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Aha.. but your missing something here. The keyboard. Might be easy to convert for the Epic crowd... but for those without a keyboard probably not so much.
We won't know until it is released and the custom ROM developers can get their hands on the source.

t-readyroc said:
I think that the point, at least for the majority of Captivate owners (are you not one yourself?) in this forum, is that when/if said phone is released, there won't be any need to buy it in order to get the stock rom you're referring to, as it would most likely be easily ported over to the Captivate.
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I understand and do own a cappy, but that would take time and I dont like to wait.
When I had my N1 before I played with my brothers Captivate there was no wait for a new ROM and I loved it. Unfortunately, the N1 was slow compared to the Captivate and I switched.

avgjoegeek said:
Aha.. but your missing something here. The keyboard. Might be easy to convert for the Epic crowd... but for those without a keyboard probably not so much.
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Keyboard? Nothing I've read on this rumored handset says anything about it including a hardware keyboard (if that's indeed what you're implying)... Have you read something I haven't?

Just speculation but maybe this is why samsung is taking their sweet time getting froyo out. Possibly getting gingerbread ready for this and other galaxy s devices?

Honeycomb sdk preview port for desire hd works on inspire too

I got sick of youtubing honeycomb videos and decided to try out the desire hd honeycomb sdk port - guess what? It workes on inspire too. At least it works as well as it does on desire
I found a working link to the rom http://www.r2doesinc.bitsurge.net/OMHC-port-desirehd.zip
Here is the desire hd thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958391
Be sure to have your copy of android revolution / cm7 / whatever on your sd card for reverting to it when you're done. (volume rocker down and power to get back to recovery) This rom has no data access. But it's a neat way to check out the ui for now. It runs surprisingly fast considering it's origins.
I just wanted to stick this where more inspire users might see it and confirm that it works, I am not the developer.

I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.

helushune said:
I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.
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Why not? That is the true question.

helushune said:
I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.
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Try it out the interface is wonderful maybe then you'll see

randomblame said:
Try it out the interface is wonderful maybe then you'll see
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Still, doesn't make any sense to me. Especially when they've made it fairly clear 3.x is for tablets, 2.x is for phones. A bigger number in front doesn't always mean it's better. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.

It's highly buggy. Have tried this on a few phones.
Maybe google will come out with a phone version and simply name it something else.
Honeycomb was written specifically for tablets. Not a lot of that is easily ported to any phone.
Read xoom forums. Even it has its issues.
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helushune said:
Still, doesn't make any sense to me. Especially when they've made it fairly clear 3.x is for tablets, 2.x is for phones. A bigger number in front doesn't always mean it's better. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.
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We do it to do it... to say we done it... to prove we can do it... plan simple and to the point

symonc said:
It's highly buggy. Have tried this on a few phones.
Maybe google will come out with a phone version and simply name it something else.
Honeycomb was written specifically for tablets. Not a lot of that is easily ported to any phone.
Read xoom forums. Even it has its issues.
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ummm isn't 2.4 Honeycomb for phones? thought i seen that somewhere.and 3.0 is for tablets specifically

wade7919 said:
ummm isn't 2.4 Honeycomb for phones? thought i seen that somewhere.and 3.0 is for tablets specifically
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2.4 is Gingerbread.
With
Dual core support and hopefully some bug fixes.
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im with the why not crowd.. but i would think problems would arrise from the fact that the tablet has higher pixel count and surface area. But ill prolly try this out before tomuch longer.. maybe someone will make a custom rom to runn better on the phones.. Overclock the cpu and it would help with processing what is supposed to run on 2 cores.. but then again you got the extra gpu cores that he nividia chipset uses.. Sooo.. but on tiger and newegg you can get a low priced nividia powered tablets for 300 to 349. not that much money if you can save up and skip the bar for a month.

sprhr0 said:
im with the why not crowd.. but i would think problems would arrise from the fact that the tablet has higher pixel count and surface area. But ill prolly try this out before tomuch longer.. maybe someone will make a custom rom to runn better on the phones.. Overclock the cpu and it would help with processing what is supposed to run on 2 cores.. but then again you got the extra gpu cores that he nividia chipset uses.. Sooo.. but on tiger and newegg you can get a low priced nividia powered tablets for 300 to 349. not that much money if you can save up and skip the bar for a month.
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Honestly, I'd just grab a ViewSonic G-Tablet and wait for a port. Woot's tempted me a few times now with dropping them down to $260.

helushune said:
Honestly, I'd just grab a ViewSonic G-Tablet and wait for a port. Woot's tempted me a few times now with dropping them down to $260.
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That's what I did.
Sent from my Vegan G Tablet

I'll give it a shot...THanks!!!

Ice Cream Sandwich (still not used to the new name) will be the honeycomb+gingerbread mash up for phones. But seriously this is XDA we can do anything. If we had source code there would be honeycomb phone roms popping up left and right with phone apps pulled from gingerbread. The size of the interface can be scaled for lower resolution phones. It can work. For those of us with wives that cant go out and spend money on a tablet without first spending more money on jewelry to bribe with - this rom is a neat way to peek at the latest hotness.

Its getting busy in here :-)

Wow this area of the forum is getting busy, last week there was just a few of us, now the numbers are increasing fast. I knew this phone was going to be popular, just wait till the USA gets it too
Welcome new O3D owners.
Pete

i was just thinking the same i'm a member since yesterday but i followed this forum a few days before that and it's getting real busy awesome

mmm, when is supposed to be out in USA?

I guess we all just know a good phone when we see it.
Can't believe I was considering a Galaxy S2 or an HTC Sensation over my O3D. What was I thinking?!

Lagamorph said:
I guess we all just know a good phone when we see it.
Can't believe I was considering a Galaxy S2 or an HTC Sensation over my O3D. What was I thinking?!
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Really dude, what were you thinking. Forget about the 3d, Optimus is still better than them. Tri-Dual and the Omap4 is the key

I noticed so excited when I purchased my LG because I'm not so sure whether it is true the right smartphone for me and if it gets the community it deserves. But what amazes me it goes fast because it is not yet available everywhere. I think there are still some great things to come

I'm very close to buying one.
My main concern is that the standard 2D 5MP camera is going to be rubbish up against the Galaxy S II. However, my software support fears have been alleviated by the fact CM7 has been confirmed.
I hear the 3D really is quite excellent.
See this thread if you have a decent pictures to share - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174827

well i started in this forum with my HTC Elfin, then Xperia X1, then Motorola Milestone, then Galaxy S, then Galaxy S2 (for two weeks) and now my journey ended with this masterpiece of a smartphone!
looking forward to flash and test and flash and so on

Robboftw said:
I'm very close to buying one.
My main concern is that the standard 2D 5MP camera is going to be rubbish up against the Galaxy S II. However, my software support fears have been alleviated by the fact CM7 has been confirmed.
I hear the 3D really is quite excellent.
See this thread if you have a decent pictures to share - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174827
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Someone tell me why cm7 is so much talked about...whats so special about it? A video? I looked at the about page, and it seems its just a malware protector, themer ect. Nothing special? We already have themes?

borgqueenx said:
Someone tell me why cm7 is so much talked about...whats so special about it? A video? I looked at the about page, and it seems its just a malware protector, themer ect. Nothing special? We already have themes?
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its so much more than just themes. there is deffo no malware protection. most manufacturers would probably describe it as malware!
cyanogenmod is a completely from the ground up customised version of android operating system designed for the power user with the intent of maximising the control over and performance of the raw hardware. it allows you to fully manage the settings and behaviours of your device to suit the way YOU like it.
i will honestly never buy another phone that does not have cyanogen available for it, its that good.

Things do seem to be picking up now in these forums which is nice to see.

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its so much more than just themes. there is deffo no malware protection. most manufacturers would probably describe it as malware!
cyanogenmod is a completely from the ground up customised version of android operating system designed for the power user with the intent of maximising the control over and performance of the raw hardware. it allows you to fully manage the settings and behaviours of your device to suit the way YOU like it.
i will honestly never buy another phone that does not have cyanogen available for it, its that good.
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So it will give us full root, and contain alot optimalisations to make the phone even faster?

borgqueenx said:
So it will give us full root, and contain alot optimalisations to make the phone even faster?
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well it's not that easy...
cyanogenmod is a opensource version of android.
normal customroms are basing on firmwares of the company.
cm7 not. its based on the officual code from google.
on the one side the programmers are able to change the code more easyer and deeper than the firmwares, on the other hand its harder to port cm7 to a new device with all the hardwaresupport.
and yes cm7 is always rooted
pros of cm7:
faster (not from the beginning on)
more funktions
cooler
cons of cm7:
at the beginning there are always bugs (due the different hardware)
some functions never work (for example tv-output of the galaxy s)
at the beginning batterydrain
so at the beginning the cm7-ports to a new device are buggy, slow, batterydraining and don't support the full hardware.
but after a lot of new releases it's really great! blazing fast, cooler, batterysaving and and and

Just got my P920 hope the amount of users will grow everyday

Still worth buying as a budget device?

Hi Blaze friends,
I'm looking for a budget device for some family members and am curious if the Blaze still fits the bill. I'll be able to buy them new at $130 off contract and am looking to upgrade from a Galaxy S 4g, mostly because they're having some hardware issues.
My goal is something less than $150 and I think this is the best Android option I'm able to find. I'm mostly considering this or a Lumia 521 (no need to warm me about WP8 ).
Also, if you guys still suggest buying a Blaze, could you also recommend a rock solid ROM (stock is a valid option if y'all say it's good) that won't require regular tech support?
Many thanks from a Nexus/AOKP guy!
-Jax

Jaxidian said:
Hi Blaze friends,
I'm looking for a budget device for some family members and am curious if the Blaze still fits the bill. I'll be able to buy them new at $130 off contract and am looking to upgrade from a Galaxy S 4g, mostly because they're having some hardware issues.
My goal is something less than $150 and I think this is the best Android option I'm able to find. I'm mostly considering this or a Lumia 521 (no need to warm me about WP8 ).
Also, if you guys still suggest buying a Blaze, could you also recommend a rock solid ROM (stock is a valid option if y'all say it's good) that won't require regular tech support?
Many thanks from a Nexus/AOKP guy!
-Jax
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I recommend getting this phone! It's amazing. Especially with all the new ROMs we are receiving from the amazing developers on here! A good solid ROM is Dirty Unicorns (my opinion) but it would vary among other users. Always read the bug list though. Its fairly stable now and I'm sure most of the bugs are squashed. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask this spectacular community!

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I recommend getting this phone! It's amazing. Especially with all the new ROMs we are receiving from the amazing developers on here! A good solid ROM is Dirty Unicorns (my opinion) but it would vary among other users. Always read the bug list though. Its fairly stable now and I'm sure most of the bugs are squashed. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask this spectacular community!
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Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback!

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Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback!
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this phone is good and bad.
figure out if you need the size. If you don't want to go larger, this is about the best phone you can find.
There are some restrictions though. This isn't one of the mainstream CyanogenMod phones so doesn't get updates as fast as some others, even older ones. Also since it's been orphaned by Samsung, we probably will have a kernel problem within the next few generations of OS.
Also. The tiny internal storage has been a problem. Mostly this means you have to use a SD card and then install a 3rd party Camera app to allow for storage to the SD card, which can't be done automatically. I'd suggest Snap Camera or Camera JB+ for this (both $).
I have one with a cracked screen that I'm selling for $50. It's on T-Mobile right now though.
I wouldn't pay $130 for it since they are going on Craigslist for about $90 in good or near new shape. But I'm okay buying and selling used and do it regularly so that's a factor.
Overall. I'd go with a SGS II instead of the Blaze if size and the small price difference isn't a big deal for you. The SGSII has similar specs and a larger screen but with better XDA support as well as a lot more people out there with them, so the community is a bit stronger.
Just my not so humble opinion.

Just bought this phone for $130 new from HSN for my mom (her very first smartphone). What's the latest official update for this phone, I know it at least has ICS correct? Is it still stuck on that or has it been officially updated to JB? Thanks guys!

mackster248 said:
Just bought this phone for $130 new from HSN for my mom (her very first smartphone). What's the latest official update for this phone, I know it at least has ICS correct? Is it still stuck on that or has it been officially updated to JB? Thanks guys!
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You're stuck on ICS unless you go aftermarket. They've stopped releasing updates for this phone. That said, ICS isn't too shabby.

Jaxidian said:
You're stuck on ICS unless you go aftermarket. They've stopped releasing updates for this phone. That said, ICS isn't too shabby.
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Thanks man! Tempted to root it... But I suppose ICS will suffice.

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Thanks man! Tempted to root it... But I suppose ICS will suffice.
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If it were for me, I'd root it. If for somebody I don't want to provide tech support for, I'd leave it.

Jaxidian said:
If it were for me, I'd root it. If for somebody I don't want to provide tech support for, I'd leave it.
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Lol yeah my thoughts exactly. Does it require a micro SIM or regular one?

mackster248 said:
Lol yeah my thoughts exactly. Does it require a micro SIM or regular one?
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Regular

I'm in the same boat as mackster in that I bought it on HSN and am now waiting for the shipment... on the bright side it's not for my mom.
I'm not one to spend as mush as I might on a laptop for a phone so this will be a step up from my Exhibit II 4g from two years ago. Faster processor and larger screen... I'm happy with that for $129.00
I've rooted and tried various roms on my Exhibit so I'm scannig the roms availalbe here now. If anyone has already done the heavy lifting I'm open to suggestions for your opinions on the best rom. My needs in order of importance are:
1. STABILITY
2. Battery life
3. Photos (and ability to save to external DS)
4. Bloat removal (in rom if possible)
4. Wi-Fi calling still functioning
5. Root would be nice (i have many apks)
6. Mapping (aka driving directions) works
I see many roms listing problems with the compass and the camera. I guess I would like a newer version of droid but if ICS meets all of my above needs then I'd be perfectly happy with that too.
Anyone have suggestions?

I have a feeling that you should be looking at mature ICS ROMs. I don't have the phone so I can't say for sure, but that's my gut feeling based on your requirements.

If I remember right, you might want to stay on stock ics. Wifi calling is a no-go on jb. Not sure if it's up and running on jb 4.3, but know for sure it's not on 4.1.2.
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njstein said:
If I remember right, you might want to stay on stock ics. Wifi calling is a no-go on jb. Not sure if it's up and running on jb 4.3, but know for sure it's not on 4.1.2.
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I don't think WiFi Calling has been ported to any non-stock-based JB ROMs for any devices. Definitely not available for general use.

Thanks for the replies... I don't suppose there's a bloatfree stock ROM like I had found for my Exhibit? Otherwise I guess it's time to dust off Titanium and start freezing/uninstalling bloat

gmolds said:
Thanks for the replies... I don't suppose there's a bloatfree stock ROM like I had found for my Exhibit? Otherwise I guess it's time to dust off Titanium and start freezing/uninstalling bloat
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There are several AOSP-based options. I can't vouch for the quality of them so you'll have to play with them to find out. But I'd stick with what seems like mature ICS offerings though.

Where is this thank button... I don't seem to see it.

Found it