I can see the "H" in the status bar while using Official android 1.5 sense UI in my house ,but when I switch to CM 5.0.7 , it only shows "3G" , does it mean that HSPDA is not suportted by CM ?
vincehong said:
I can see the "H" in the status bar while using Official android 1.5 sense UI in my house ,but when I switch to CM 5.0.7 , it only shows "3G" , does it mean that HSPDA is not suportted by CM ?
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its an icon
3g and hsdpa are one and the same
the H is just something that some roms have and others dont
edit, alan beat me to it, =p
And you can make those icons pretty much into anything... like my 8G connection??? LOL
zapote21 said:
And you can make those icons pretty much into anything... like my 8G connection??? LOL
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Make that a 4G and you can more realistically mess with friends.
alan090 said:
its an icon
3g and hsdpa are one and the same
the H is just something that some roms have and others dont
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Maybe it's more than an icon?
Turn to Settings => About Phone => Status =>Mobile Network Type, SenseUI shows "HSPDA" and CM shows "UMTS"...
vincehong said:
Maybe it's more than an icon?
Turn to Settings => About Phone => Status =>Mobile Network Type, SenseUI shows "HSPDA" and CM shows "UMTS"...
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yeaaa so UMTS is voice over 3g and HSDPA is the data part of 3g
maybe you should do some research on what the terms mean before you post?
Maybe it's more than an icon?
Turn to Settings => About Phone => Status =>Mobile Network Type, SenseUI shows "HSPDA" and CM shows "UMTS"...
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yeaaa so UMTS is voice over 3g and HSDPA is the data part of 3g
maybe you should do some research on what the terms mean before you post?
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Come on now you know that's asking to much...its easier to just post and get flamed and look stupid...lol...
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Hsdpa is also referred to as 3.5G because there is a significant down and up load speed difference. Its still using the 3G infrastructure but is an updated version of it!
I'm pretty sure cyan, in the 5.*, has disabled the H icon and is only using the 3G icon because he was sick of seeing the icons constantly switching.
3G and HSDPA is not the same thing ... HSDPA is 3.5G, not 3G. In the stock ROM my magic sometimes changes from 3G to H. If it's the same, why does it changes? To look pretty? yeah ...
About the icon on the rom, don't know, maybe the rom doesn't support HSDPA, or maybe it changes to it without changing the icon.
I'm using cm 5.0.x and when I'm in a Hsdpa zone it still displays a 3G icon. You still get H speeds but without the sexy icon.
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3G and HSDPA is not the same thing ... HSDPA is 3.5G, not 3G. In the stock ROM my magic sometimes changes from 3G to H. If it's the same, why does it changes? To look pretty? yeah ...
About the icon on the rom, don't know, maybe the rom doesn't support HSDPA, or maybe it changes to it without changing the icon.
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it is the same its just a damn ICON!! cyanogen him self said it.. In fact he did have the "H" icon in test 2 but took it out in test 3 because damn ignorant people didn't know what the f**k the "H" stood for and assumed they where getting no 3G support when in reality they where getting faster speeds.. and by the way just because your not seeing the "H" icon in cm 5xx builds dosent mean your not seeing the 3.5G speeds.. Cyanogen himself said the speed still there just took out the "H" icon due to the fact i have just stated..
I don't know much about these things but, in Alan's CM port the icon is 3G and on the phone Settings-About-Status mine shows mobile network as UMTS and not HSDPA.
With the old libhtc_ril.so from test2 it showed H and HSDPA in status screen.
Honestly
Can you guys read wikipedia
Then maybe you will get it?
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Just thought I should bring this up. I have noticed that most of the builds does not support HSDPA which is a faster version of UMTS data networks, (check Wikipedia for more information).
I have first noticed it after flashing KingxKxRom, which is the only Rom - that I have tested - that supports HSDPA. Maxisma, Ccyrowski, Cyanogen, and Enomther Builds do not support it for some reason!!!
Correct me if I’m wrong; Hero, Magic, and the Dream do support it by hardware. So I wonder; where the Ball was dropped , or is it just that Kingklick is using a different base for his build, or is it a kernel matter.
This was bothering me for several days and after a lot of research I could not find the reason behind it. I’m not a Rom developer by all means; just thought developers could shed some light about it.
This has been discussed previously. HSDPA is actually supported in those ROMs, however the "3G" icon doesn't change when you are connected on a network with HSDPA coverage. I guess this is because HSDPA is just another type of 3G, so its not necessary, its just an indicator of a faster "3G" connection also known as "3.5G".
Hope this helps.
edit: if you get download speeds higher than 384kbps then you are connected on a network with HSDPA support, you can actually test it using a speedtest.net app on the market.
The issue is not the icon, withier you review the settings>about or use *#*#info#*#* command it clearly state what type of network you are connected to. I have also tested the speed and it does vary.
I have no idea how any ROMs would not 'support' HSDPA, as it would depend on what hardware you're using and your carrier's network.
If it makes you feel better CyanogenMod most definitely does as I'm using it right now and I'm on a UMTS network. I think you're confusing the network type with the protocols used to get you your data.
I am using CyanogenMod's latest rom and im getting some great speeds on the web 3mb- 5mb download speeds!
As I understand HSPDA is an upgrade to UMTS, if your hardware and network supports HSPDA you will be connected to it, otherwise you will use UMTS only. That’s why I think it has to do with the kernel used rather than the build itself. It did actually show that HSDPA is used in Kingxkx Rom.
and I did try CyanogenMod's but it does not switch to HSPDA.
rex05 said:
I am using CyanogenMod's latest rom and im getting some great speeds on the web 3mb- 5mb download speeds!
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what phone are you using; im using the Dream.
If you see the H symbol then you are getting 3g also some states dont get 3g yet or have some crappy service.
I can tell you for sure that they all support HSPA. My Touch Pro 2 has a "H" icon and clearly states HSPA (aka HSDPA/HSUPA) network. Right next to it is my G1... which says connected to UMTS w/ the 3G icon. Both test at around 700-1100 kbps download and 200-500kbps upload. Those are clearly HSPA speeds and not UMTS which tops around 400kbps download.
I have used a few ROMs that have the H icon and it makes no difference in speed. It's just for looks.
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I can tell you for sure that they all support HSPA. My Touch Pro 2 has a "H" icon and clearly states HSPA (aka HSDPA/HSUPA) network. Right next to it is my G1... which says connected to UMTS w/ the 3G icon. Both test at around 700-1100 kbps download and 200-500kbps upload. Those are clearly HSPA speeds and not UMTS which tops around 400kbps download.
I have used a few ROMs that have the H icon and it makes no difference in speed. It's just for looks.
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Some people prefer the 3g icon thouch i think the H looks better on hero roms
Maybe I took the wrong approach in discussing this, although the main use of HSPDA is Data, Telephony could use the protocols as well. I did a small test of not connecting to Data, by deleting the APN for it, or by un-checking the “connect to network” option. It still shows the phone is connected to HSPDA vs UMTS or GSM network!! That is in Kings Rom vs. Other Rom’s. Any Ideas?
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As I understand HSPDA is an upgrade to UMTS, if your hardware and network supports HSPDA you will be connected to it, otherwise you will use UMTS only. That’s why I think it has to do with the kernel used rather than the build itself. It did actually show that HSDPA is used in Kingxkx Rom.
and I did try CyanogenMod's but it does not switch to HSPDA.
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Well I'd better sue Vodafone then for selling me a phone that supports HSDPA when it doesn't!
On a more serious note, HSPA is a packet access protocol used over a UMTS network for data, not a network type. Just because you're getting the '3G' icon doesn't mean you're not getting HSPA throughput.
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Well I'd better sue Vodafone then for selling me a phone that supports HSDPA when it doesn't!
On a more serious note, HSPA is a packet access protocol used over a UMTS network for data, not a network type. Just because you're getting the '3G' icon doesn't mean you're not getting HSPA throughput.
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Thanks for your effort so far. Forget the icons "3G" or "H" that’s not my issue. Without connecting to data either; why when I use kings Rom in the setting/about section it shows network type as HSPDA, but when I use any other Rom it shows UMTS. Giving that I didn’t move and in the same place.
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Thanks for your effort so far. Forget the icons "3G" or "H" that’s not my issue. Without connecting to data either; why when I use kings Rom in the setting/about section it shows network type as HSPDA, but when I use any other Rom it shows UMTS. Giving that I didn’t move and in the same place.
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Ahh, now I get you. That is interesting though. I've only ever got UMTS as my network type but I definitely get HSPA rates so I took it as a given. Was there any correlation between using a certain type of ROM (like Hero vs. AOSP) where the difference appeared? . I remember trying a Hero ROM once and getting the 'H' icon instead of '3G' so maybe it's specific to those. Wish I'd checked Phone Status now...
It's possible kingklick made some form of modification to get the point across in his ROM, or possibly different APN settings he specifically uses. Kind of doubt it though.
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Ahh, now I get you. That is interesting though. I've only ever got UMTS as my network type but I definitely get HSPA rates so I took it as a given. Was there any correlation between using a certain type of ROM (like Hero vs. AOSP) where the difference appeared? . I remember trying a Hero ROM once and getting the 'H' icon instead of '3G' so maybe it's specific to those. Wish I'd checked Phone Status now...
It's possible kingklick made some form of modification to get the point across in his ROM, or possibly different APN settings he specifically uses. Kind of doubt it though.
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I agree I think it’s something that King did, or it relates to Rom’s based off a phone other than dream, I just flashed back a rooted stock 1.6 ADP DRC83 and it showed me UMTS, so it’s not the fault of the Rom developers I guess. I will try to test this further and I wish if king or other developers could further explain it.
Edit: found no correlation to what the Rom is based off; tried a magic, a hero, a dream based Rom’s and they all show UMTS, only Kings Rom show HSPDA, I will try to PM him tomorrow and find out if it’s only a naming thing or if he did something else.
I've had several diff roms show hsxpa in the status screen, it just matches the icon (eg replace the build.prop to get h versus 3g icons and you'll see the network type change in status too)
All the first hero builds did it as well as all Haykuro's orig Magic to Dream port
Also a stock Rogers Dream shows HSDPA. Here in the US they dumb things down for us by just calling it 3G or if you're real technical UMTS. However in Europe, Canada, and most of the rest of the developed world it is called what it truly is, HSDPA. When you see UMTS in there that is because it is a broader category. The same way EDGE is just an extension on 2G GSM (EDGE is 2.5G), HSDPA is an extension on the original UMTS 3G system (HSUPA & HSDPA are 3.5G)
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Maybe I took the wrong approach in discussing this, although the main use of HSPDA is Data, Telephony could use the protocols as well. I did a small test of not connecting to Data, by deleting the APN for it, or by un-checking the “connect to network” option. It still shows the phone is connected to HSPDA vs UMTS or GSM network!! That is in Kings Rom vs. Other Rom’s. Any Ideas?
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Plain and simple it does not matter what the phone shows 3g or H if you are in an area with the HSDPA you will have the higher speed data. All HTC androids at least, do have the hardware for it. As far as voice over HSDPA that is not currently enabled yet until the HSDPA is fully up and functional. If you are not getting High speed 3g then you are most likely in an area that does not support it or the connections are maxed out and you are defaulting to the standard 3g network.
aad4321 said:
i would like to see a different logo, ex "3G' or "H" when i connect to tmobiles new HSDPA+ which has much faster speeds...is this possible?
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very, someone just has to program it
The difference is the Radio Interface Library. As far as I know the htc source libraries distinguish HSDPA.
http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/development/pdk/docs/telephony.html
system/lib:
libhtc_ril.so
libreference-ril.so
libril.so
You could try pushing HTC sourced RIL libraries to these other builds but the source code isn't available as far as I know.
I was wondering if anyone has a morph or theme to change the "H" symbol back to "3G" in cyanogenmod 5.0.6.
Thanks in advance.
but why? H is faster than 3G. The icon for 3G still exists and will be shown when you are on 3G.
...unless you want H and 3G to BOTH have the same icon...
G < 2G < 3G < H
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639115
topic should probably be moved to q&a
I didn't know there was anything faster then regular 3G. No wonder why I'm getting great speed tests. Learn something new everyday. Thanks a lot man I appreciate it. Sorry if I posted in the wrong forum.
HSPA is H, basically 3.5G
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HSPA is H, basically 3.5G
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I just got 3Mbps. This is beyond nuts.
Does anybody have a 3G icon for a blackbar theme?
H icon to 3G icon
ROMs Compatible With
Any AOSP/Non-Desire 2.1 ROM
What is this?
It changes the H icons to the 3G icons for people that don't care for the H icons.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654858
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H icon to 3G icon
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Any AOSP/Non-Desire 2.1 ROM
What is this?
It changes the H icons to the 3G icons for people that don't care for the H icons.
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http://android-theme-minus.googlecod...es/H_to_3G.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654858
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Link doesn't work.
Go to the sticky for the metamorph, of the theme and apps section, and the link there under the H to 3g icon.
S_Dot said:
HSPA is H, basically 3.5G
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HSDPA is up to 7.2 Mb/s for Norway
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Go to the sticky for the metamorph, of the theme and apps section, and the link there under the H to 3g icon.
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Thank you for pointing it out.
http://android-theme-minus.googlecode.com/files/H_to_3G.zip
There is the correct link. It's been floating around since 3/29, so it's not really anything new. I still don't understand the reasoning behind it except for people don't like change.
Ever since I been having my Inspire I never seen 3G show up on my status bar. I always see H+ available, H+ connected and E. Never seen 3G yet, what's up with that.
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Ever since I been having my Inspire I never seen 3G show up on my status bar. I always see H+ available, H+ connected and E. Never seen 3G yet, what's up with that.
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H+ is AT&T's work toward 4G and its faster than your 3G, they have provided this service to all their customers. This is something that happened a few weeks ago...
swatcop1 said:
Ever since I been having my Inspire I never seen 3G show up on my status bar. I always see H+ available, H+ connected and E. Never seen 3G yet, what's up with that.
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ATTs stock ROM uses an H+ icon to indicate connectivity to 3G (UMTS), 3.5G (HSDPA), and "4G" (HSPA+). They do this to make customers think that they're ocnnected to "4G" HSPA+ all the time, even when it's not available in your area. Stock ROM also has an E icon for EDGE. Most of the ported DHD ROMs have an E icon for EDGE, a 3G icon for UMTS, and an H icon for HSDPA and HSPA+. The only way you can tell for sure what network you're connected to is by going to Settings - About Phone - Network and looking at your Mobile network type. This will tell you which network you are actually connected to
H is the 3G icon. that is just the way att is displaying it. you wont see 3G as they are calling it H. H stands for HSDPA which is 3g, so no worries you are fine.
hello,
Kind of a noob here... I have an att inspire 4g, rooted and android revolution rom. At home I have what I was told is 3g service (and have an H symbol). When I got to work (out in the country) I have edge service (E). When I came back into town the other night, my data symbol went from E to 3G, not H like it usually did... Now this morning it was back to it's usual H. Can someone explain the difference between these, and is this normal or a glitch in the rom?
Thanks!
Search please...this topic has been discussed so many times around here...
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod
I did search on the Q&A portion, seems like I'm not alone on this, but I never found a definitive answer/solution. I did see that the 3g symbol will result in slower speeds than H. (personally I thought the 3g symbol looked cooler than the H though).
It hasn't really affected me at all, and only happened once, so it's not really a big deal, was just curious.
apbling said:
I did search on the Q&A portion, seems like I'm not alone on this, but I never found a definitive answer/solution. I did see that the 3g symbol will result in slower speeds than H. (personally I thought the 3g symbol looked cooler than the H though).
It hasn't really affected me at all, and only happened once, so it's not really a big deal, was just curious.
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The symbols mean absolutely nothing. You can make the symbols whatever you want them to be. If you want to know what network your phone is connected to, go to Settings-About Phone-Network. The Inspire connects to these networks (on ATT) and corresponds with the following icons:
GSM shows a "G" icon
EDGE shows an "E" icon
UMTS shows a "3G" icon
HSDPA shows a "H+" icon on ATT ROMs and "H" icon on other ROMs
Supposedly the Inspire connects to HSPA+ too, but no one's ever seen this as a network type. Again, you can change these icons to anything you want. See my tutorial in Themes/Apps (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300389)
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If you want to know what network your phone is connected to, go to Settings-About Phone-Network.[/url])
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On my Inspire it's settings-about phone-status-mobile network type (maybe this depends on the ROM?)
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Yup. Depends on the build
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Its like "3.5G" not the same because sometimes it'll fluctuate between H and 3G
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Its like "3.5G" not the same because sometimes it'll fluctuate between H and 3G
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Hsdpa is commonly referred to as 3.5g. Umts is 3g. Hspa+ is technically 4g but doesnt touch LTE speeds. Hsdpa and hspa+ are designated with either a H or H+ icon...depending on the ROM
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homeslice976 said:
Hsdpa is commonly referred to as 3.5g. Umts is 3g. Hspa+ is technically 4g but doesnt touch LTE speeds. Hsdpa and hspa+ are designated with either a H or H+ icon...depending on the ROM
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Yes. That's a fancier version of what I said lol
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Sorry for reviving an old thread but is it normal to keep switching between 3G and H? How come it doesn't make it's mind?
[Q] For a stock Nexus S I9020T on ICS , "H" symble on signal bars when on HSDPA?
Hello
My Nexus S on T mobile I9020T only shows "E" for edge or "3G" for UMTS and HSDPA (when I check my phone info in the about phone menu..BUt I saw some people screen shots and the H letter is there on the signal bars .. I am on ICS 4.0.3 stock ROM and stock XXKI1 radio by the way...
Do I miss something ? is it a mod or related to something else ?
Thanks
mahanddeem said:
Hello
My Nexus S on T mobile I9020T only shows "E" for edge or "3G" for UMTS and HSDPA (when I check my phone info in the about phone menu..BUt I saw some people screen shots and the H letter is there on the signal bars .. I am on ICS 4.0.3 stock ROM and stock XXKI1 radio by the way...
Do I miss something ? is it a mod or related to something else ?
Thanks
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the H is enabled in many custom roms, you wont see it on stock. but, even though you dont see the H, its still connects to it when it should. the H is cosmetic(unless you dont have hspa in your area).
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the H is enabled in many custom roms, you wont see it on stock. but, even though you dont see the H, its still connects to it when it should. the H is cosmetic(unless you dont have hspa in your area).
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Thanks..I do get HSDPA in my area.but wanted to make sure about the H ... And by the way the data tweak got me nothing in build.prop..