Is my battery OK? - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
I bought an HP iPAQ 214 a few days ago and I'm concerned with the battery. I gave it a full charge (it reported 100%) and when I unplugged it, it dropped to 92% almost immediately. After draining the battery (which took about half a day with casual use) I gave it another full charge. This time it did not do the initial big drop, but it still seemed to drain faster than I felt it should.
For example, if I have a remote desktop session open for 2 1/2 minutes and browse the web for 2 1/2 minutes (example of 5 minutes use) I will loose between 3 and 5%. This battery is 2200mAh; I have an old model which has a 1100mAh and this battery seems better!
I can't find in any specifications of this model the estimated battery life. I believe I will get 3 or 4 hours at best, does that seem right? Maybe I'm just used to my netbook lasting twice, if not, three times as long as that and my phone lasts about a week with casual use. I feel I will need to charge the iPAQ once, if not two times a day; is that normal?
Are there any things I can try or does this battery seem bad?
Thanks for any advice

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How to charge an XDA battery for best results

wondered if people have an opinion on the best way to charge the XDA.
With my current mobile (samsung N500) I always used the policy of charge until full, then run until flat, then charge until full again etc.
ie, never recharging until it was flat. This is a bit of a throwback to when I used to use nicads a lot about 15 years ago.
the methodology being that if you did it this way the batteries remembered how much charge they were supposed to hold.
however, these new lithium polymer batteries in PDA's aren't supposed to have this issue are they?
On my samsung it's been fine, it's held charge well and never really gotten less, even after a years worth of charging and discharging.
A chap at work does the complete opposite, he puts his on charge whenever he can, whether it's flat or not, and usually before it falls below 80%, his reasoning being that he read somewhere that if you trickle charge it a lot it lasts longer.
as you can see, two conflicting methods of working.
what should I be doing to make my battery last as long and as well as possible
The "memory effect" issue is known for the N.MH battaries only ... and it's true that u have to drain it each time ... the XDA has L.Polymer type which doesn't have this issue ... u can charge it each night.
so I can charge it each night whether it's flat or not? sorry if this sounds dumb but I just want to make sure I understand this right,
don't fell like sending it off to have the battery replaced every few months because I abuse it.
yes ... u can actually leave it powered in the cradle the whole time
I knew the Nicads had the memory problem, but the NiMh aren't supposed to be as bad. Most new types of batteries don't have the memory problem, just increased capacities and less harmful to the environment.
discharge almost fully then recharge
I used to own a iPAQ 3630 and now I own an O2 XDA. Both the iPAQ and the XDA have a Li-Po battery, and with both devices I have the same charge/discharge experience. The battery lasts longer if you discharge it almost fully, till say 20-30% and then charge, not sooner. Constantly recharging decreases battery life considerably, as if the battery gets "lazy". My XDA's battery now lasts 5-6 hours usage with backlight on plus some 48hrs on standby. My 2 cents.
well after one days use I'm impressed by the battery life
fully charged and went off charge at 5pm
10 mins talk time
3 hours farting around with it in the evening
went to bed at 11pm
backlight off
no switch off set
phone switched off
by 7.30 am this morning, still had 30% battery left
nice.
Saving battery while listening to music
I have never had a problem keeping a battery charge until recently. I normally have my sx56 on standby and talk for about an hour a day and maybe spend half an hour checking appointments. I just recently got a 512 card and when I'm walking somewhere I listen to music. Maybe another hour out of my day. For whatever reason I used to end a 12 hour day with 40-50% battery and now I'm down to 10-20. I currently use wm player and keep the screen off when music is on. Do other softwares use less battery and is this drain in 12 hours normal. It sounds excessive to me.
doesn't sound out of the ordinary.
playing of MP3's really drains the batteries. quite a few reviews use draining the batteries by playing MP3's as some sort of yardstick.
I've seen reviews that quote the XDa as running down flat after 3 .5 hours from playing MP3's.

I actually like my Sensation, but I'm gonna have to return it

Kind of makes me sad though. The device feels good in my hand and I like it overall, but the battery performance is unacceptable for me. I went to bed with it having something like 93% (dropping from 100% after like 15min of play). Not even 6h later I wake up and when I look at it, the battery is already drained to 85% only from standby (Yes,always-on mobile data is deactivated, power efficiency is on). After playing with the unit in train and some browsing while commuting for 30min, its already at 70% or something. During the next few hours, while working, I was just checking mails, using whatsapp from time to time and writing a few messages. No surfing, no videos no games.
By 3PM the battery was at 15%. Even worse, the damn thing takes some 4h+ to fully charge. That's just too damn long, my iphone 3gs charges fully in about an hour. What is also very frustrating is that the Sensation discharges a good portion of its current as pure HEAT. Never saw a phone get this warm afer 15min of normal usage.
I knew battery wasn't going to be stellar but this just sucks. Most of all that a full charge takes 4h. fail :-/
EDIT: Ok guys the 2.3.4 update did the trick! The battery now chrages fully within 2h and battery life has ridiculously improved!
I took it off the cord around 8am this morning. Now it's 2pm and my battery is at 83 with some 46min screen time and slight usage. Also the heating seems to be gone.
Apart from that, everything runs smoother with the new update. Guess I'm gonna keep the little guy after all
However, I did order 2 extra Ankers + charger (25$!) as additional mobilty is never wrong.
Before you return it, I recommend that you call HTC support and request a warranty exchange for the phone and battery.
You may have a defective unit.
While my battery isn't stellar, I get a minimum of 10 hours before I drop below 20% life (always-on mobile data off, manual syncing, not too many widgets).
Your phone battery performance is not indicative of Sensation battery performance for the overall majority.
Most have said that the battery gets better after a few full charges/discharges, and the todays new update is supposed to improve battery performance. Many people say the Sensation is better than most other 4G phones.
I dont play games and such, mostly phone text and email and it lasts me a day and a half. There is also a better battery you can get.
That charging time is ridiculous, which leads me to believe that your unit and/or battery is defective.
Mine charges from 15% to 100% in 2 hours. Same for almost everybody elses phone.
You might want to reconsider and try warranty exchange mentioned earlier. Also, I would suggest the ChiChi battery. I'm running from 7:30 to about 4:00 with my WiFi hot spot turned on for my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I'm using my phone for calls, texts etc., my battery still has about 30% left when I leave work.
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Dude , custom rom and anker / chitec battery.
My first time with my new anker achieved almost 24 hours on battery and almost 4 hours screen time with quite alot of use during that time.
Totally destroyed my oem battery in every way.
Also I would do a Warranty Exchange and with the new update I have seen a big differance in 2.3.4 vs 2.3.3 in terms of battery life and speed of Sense in general. I purchased a Anker 1900mah battery for $10 and fully charged to dead I get on average about 17-20 hours and I would say I'm a good moderate to HEAVY! user. Switching back to a stock battery after calibrating with the Anker Battery has also improved battery life seeing that I get between 12-14 hours with stock now. I would charge to 100% go to bed and wake up with about 97%-98%
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Pinball_ said:
Dude , custom rom and anker / chitec battery.
My first time with my new anker achieved almost 24 hours on battery and almost 4 hours screen time with quite alot of use during that time.
Totally destroyed my oem battery in every way.
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+1 I agree 110%, Try this though Calibrate the Anker Battery then fully charge your stock battery and see what battery life you get.
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Get a anker battery and download leedroid/android revolution/insertcoin. I guarantee you won't want to return it than. When I first got my device I was thinking about doing the same thing but after I looked through the thread I saw people were getting better results with the anker or chichi. Don't be discouraged that its a third party. It actually out performs the stock battery and embarrasses it.
Also download calibrate battery from the market.
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I had terrible battery life for the first week or so. 6 to 8 hours max, and 2 hours screen time if I was lucky. After conditioning the battery by fully discharging then fully charging on the AC adapter for a few cycles, it corrected itself for the most part. Yesterday I had 15 hours with 3 hours screen time and still had 20+ percent left. I have a chichtech battery sitting in my mailbox right now waiting for me to get off work.
ProximaC said:
I had terrible battery life for the first week or so. 6 to 8 hours max, and 2 hours screen time if I was lucky. After conditioning the battery by fully discharging then fully charging on the AC adapter for a few cycles, it corrected itself for the most part. Yesterday I had 15 hours with 3 hours screen time and still had 20+ percent left. I have a chichtech battery sitting in my mailbox right now waiting for me to get off work.
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After I got my anker I sold my OEM and got two more. I also have a evo3d battery that I haven't used. I also have been hearing good things about it.
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really appreciate the good advice guys, thanks. I have done my bit of reading here and many many people here report having around 4h charge timr (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154780)
So you guys can not confirm this? If so, it might be my battery is faulty. I will upgrade to 2.3.4 and calibrate. Probably will improve battery time, I doubt however it will reduce the charge time...
Something is definitely up. I just got my Sensation 10 days ago and am still stock. It takes me ~2 hours to fully charge, and that's with me using the phone like crazy while its charging....and the phone light on the entire time.
And I get a good full days use out of it....sometimes 2 days if I dont use the screen much and just phone text email.
IT'S ALIVE!!!
Ok guys the 2.3.4 update did the trick! The battery now chrages fully within 2h and battery life has ridiculously improved!
I took it off the cord around 8am this morning. Now it's 2pm and my battery is at 83 with some 46min screen time and slight usage. Also the heating seems to be gone.
Apart from that, everything runs smoother with the new update. Guess I'm gonna keep the little guy after all
However, I did order 2 extra Anker's as additional mobilty is never wrong, and with such an offer it was a steal:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005DY4MAW/ref=oss_product
Also check if your phone is always awake because I had this and it had a huge affect.
I easily get 16-20 hours with LeeDroid's ROM.
i had the same battery issue with my first sensation. Even after several cycle of charging - discharging, battery calibration, the battery would not last for more than 7-8 hours. i exchanged it , for first couple of days, it didn't hold the charge for long,.but after i did battery calibration and update to 2.3.4, now my battery will last for 12 to 14 hours with moderate use. doesn't get hot with normal use, but over the weekend , i use map navigation and temp reached 48C. I think, i should not use it as GPS for longer than few minutes, or it may burn the phone.
Juice Defender Ultimate is definitely worth the tiny amount of money it costs. Just got just over 3 days on my Sensation, admittedly i hardly used it.
Usually i get a good 22 hours from it with medium use.
HTC sensation
Just replace the battery and you will see the difference.. my phone last ast least 10 hours.. its just amazing....
I lose almost no charge while it sits on standby.
I work 12 hour shifts, I listen to Music the entire time, browse, login to home computers for about 30 minutes using Teamviewer and keep up with RSS feeds throughout.
By the end of shift I'm down to 5%.
Sounds like you need a replacement, rather than a return, bud.

[Q] Battery or phone problem?

Got my galaxy 3 for 1,5 year. Light usage, GPS rarely, 3g never, wifi only to download or update, no Internet, don't spend hours talking either. Battery lasted for about three days. About a month ago I installed the GO Launcher, looked nice, just to check it out. Removed it in a couple of days. Possibly a coincidence but right after the battery's life dropped to less than a day. Well I thought it's time was up so I ordered a new one (XDA will not allow a link from me yet) cause the genuine costs about 20 euros in Greece.
When I got the battery it was half full so I charged it fully - not for 8 hours or so- and then... it lasted for about a day. Drained it completely and recharged fully...lasted one day. Downloaded Battery Calibration and calibrated ...lasted one day. Let it charge for more than eight hours and then calibrated...lasted one day. I'm fed up! Should I consider it a lousy (chinese) battery problem and look for another battery or does anyone have another idea?
Would wiping everything out and installing the ROM again make a difference? I'm using Kyrillos' 9.6 JPU

[Q] Battery crash?

Hello,
I bought this phone a month ago. At first the battery lasted quite well, I got around 5 hours of screen time with battery life to spare. Unfortunately, about 2 weeks ago I accidentally left the phone under my pillow and fell asleep on it- causing it to overheat a tad bit (I woke up 3 hours later and it was very warm to the touch and had turned off). After charging it up, I continued to use it normally but noticed that the battery would drain a little bit quicker than normal. Before I could easily go around 10 hours with heavy use and have 40% battery left, now after 10 hours it's left with about 15-20%. I am a heavy user but I haven't properly checked how much screen time I'm getting now, however I'll update that later.
As for the main problem- last night I charged my phone before sleeping (100%) and when I woke up in the morning it was turned off. I turned it on only to see that my battery had drained to 0% while on standby all night- whereas overnight I usually only lose around 2-3% battery.
After charging my phone up for 15 minutes- the battery level again returned to 100%. I only charge my phone through my laptop via USB. What happened here? Is my battery deteriorating? Should I get the phone replaced? I would appreciate any input on the matter. Thanks.
Also I've attached the screenshots showing how my battery died and how it was quickly restored. Can someone explain this occurrence?
h4rsheys said:
Hello,
I bought this phone a month ago. At first the battery lasted quite well, I got around 5 hours of screen time with battery life to spare. Unfortunately, about 2 weeks ago I accidentally left the phone under my pillow and fell asleep on it- causing it to overheat a tad bit (I woke up 3 hours later and it was very warm to the touch and had turned off). After charging it up, I continued to use it normally but noticed that the battery would drain a little bit quicker than normal. Before I could easily go around 10 hours with heavy use and have 40% battery left, now after 10 hours it's left with about 15-20%. I am a heavy user but I haven't properly checked how much screen time I'm getting now, however I'll update that later.
As for the main problem- last night I charged my phone before sleeping (100%) and when I woke up in the morning it was turned off. I turned it on only to see that my battery had drained to 0% while on standby all night- whereas overnight I usually only lose around 2-3% battery.
After charging my phone up for 15 minutes- the battery level again returned to 100%. I only charge my phone through my laptop via USB. What happened here? Is my battery deteriorating? Should I get the phone replaced? I would appreciate any input on the matter. Thanks.
Also I've attached the screenshots showing how my battery died and how it was quickly restored. Can someone explain this occurrence?
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Your sudden battery drop has nothing to do with what happened before.
Several people already mentioned this sudden battery drop as you can read in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545553 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678909
No reason to return your device, its a know issue.
Drain your battery completly then charge your phone to 100%, turn the phone one and leave it to charge a hour more. Essentialy you have to recalibrate your battery.
So a brief update regarding SOT.
I left home with 90% charge this morning. Used the phone for 8 hours and it went down to 20% - granted, with heavy use.
Got 4.5 hours of SOT. Is this about average? imo I feel like this falls a bit below average. Ill check other threads as well and compare, but as far as I know, I feel like I should be getting a *little* more juice out of my phone. Data connection was on throughout, and some games were played and pictures taken.
Anyone else feel like they're getting sub-par use out of their battery?
*screenshots provided.
- checked the other threads, looks like ~5 hrs SOT is the most this phone puts out?
Same here.
Are there any news from Motorola?
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Average battery life.

Hi everyone, I'd just like to ask what's the average battery life of the G Pro 2? I somehow feel my device drains really fast for what it's worth.
I had around 3 hours of run time and it went from 100% down to 85% with only 53mins of screen time. 2 of those 3 hours were used on 2g, text messaging only, when I got home i used facebook and wifi for about 30mins (but wifi connects as soon as i get home).
so I'd say around 15% after 3 hours of moderate usage. is this acceptable? though I'd like it to drain a little slower.
I'm currently on V20a Lollipop, rooted but stock everything. also the brightness was set to 20% the whole time.
Could anyone also help me out (like literally hold my hand) in choosing a lightweight, resource saving ROM? Kernels are a bonus but right now, it's a bit unsettling to see lollipop eat away 6gb of my already small 16gb internal storage.
My device is still 2 days old, so I'm still a bit jumpy with it xD thanks in advance!
no, thats not normal. what does the battery option say uses most battery in settings?
UPDATE:
just did another 3-hour monitor, right now I'm looking at 3h10min on battery and it dropped from 100 to 91%.
WIFI was on but I didn't use it, 50min screen on time with 15min of voice calls.
Is it just me or is Lollipop a bigger battery drain than kitkat?
BUMP
here's what i've got:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwszk4ShCM21YUtMOWFHVkxESjA/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwszk4ShCM21VXY3MWFYWjVNZVU
You're pretty lucky, on an average I get 3 hours of usage from my phone. Legitimately from 100%-0%. On WiFi using only WhatsApp, playing a few rounds of a game and some music. Don't get me started on when I use it for navigation.
UPDATE:
I forgot to mention in my OP that i already had Amplify and Greenify and still had those kinds of stats.
Now I installed DS battery saver to drain the least amount of battery when I'm not using the phone, and so far it is GREAT.
Before I left for school (around 12:30pm local time) I was able to charge it to around 85% and as of writing (1:27am) it's sitting at 33% with 2hrs of screen on time. Note that those 2 hours I used for gaming, youtube, app downloading, and web browsing on wifi; I guess it's also important to note that I play really heavy 3D games (Maersk's quest for oil for instance).
Considering the load i placed on it for those 2 hours, I'd say battery life improved quite a bit, though not amazing, still a lot better than before.
When screen is off, it drains less than 1% an hour. I went to sleep 3:30am with 100% charge, woke up 10:30am with 96%, in 7 hrs i lost only 4% while the screen was off (compared to around 10% for the same amount of time before DS Battery Saver)
I encourage other LG GP2 users to try it out. Root your device to be able to use the "tune cpu" option.
vangeodee said:
UPDATE:
I forgot to mention in my OP that i already had Amplify and Greenify and still had those kinds of stats.
Now I installed DS battery saver to drain the least amount of battery when I'm not using the phone, and so far it is GREAT.
Before I left for school (around 12:30pm local time) I was able to charge it to around 85% and as of writing (1:27am) it's sitting at 33% with 2hrs of screen on time. Note that those 2 hours I used for gaming, youtube, app downloading, and web browsing on wifi; I guess it's also important to note that I play really heavy 3D games (Maersk's quest for oil for instance).
Considering the load i placed on it for those 2 hours, I'd say battery life improved quite a bit, though not amazing, still a lot better than before.
When screen is off, it drains less than 1% an hour. I went to sleep 3:30am with 100% charge, woke up 10:30am with 96%, in 7 hrs i lost only 4% while the screen was off (compared to around 10% for the same amount of time before DS Battery Saver)
I encourage other LG GP2 users to try it out. Root your device to be able to use the "tune cpu" option.
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What rom are you using? i had a problem charging my Gpro2, it takes 4-6hours to fully charge.
i don't know if its a hardware problem or kernel/rom..
I'm using LP rom and rooted, i also use amplify, greenify and DS battery saver. i'll get back after after a few test this week, i'll check my cable, adapter then replace my battery if necessary
aftermath85 said:
What rom are you using? i had a problem charging my Gpro2, it takes 4-6hours to fully charge.
i don't know if its a hardware problem or kernel/rom..
I'm using LP rom and rooted, i also use amplify, greenify and DS battery saver. i'll get back after after a few test this week, i'll check my cable, adapter then replace my battery if necessary
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Using stock LP rom V20a but rooted. Are you using the charger and cable that came with the device? I believe it was rated 1.8A. I tried 3 setups since it was weird because it originally took me 3hrs to fully charge:
1.) New charger + cable (the ones that came with the phone)
2.) My old LG Optimus G's charger + new cable
3.) Optimus G's cable + new charger
I tried these setups out on the same outlet and the new charger+cable charged faster, but it was still around 2hrs or so. So I tried it on another outlet, one that we (my dad and I) attached, and voila, around 1hr 30mins to charge while on and even less that when the device is off; note those numbers are for 0~100%
We're just living in a rented house and some of the outlets are pretty old, and I bet delivers low current (possibly due to small wires) while the new outlets we attached used high-gauge wiring.
If you're charging slow with the charger and cable that came with the phone, try to charge at another outlet that uses high gauge wiring.

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