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I want to add the unlimited Web N Walk allowance to my Flext30 account. I logged into T Mobile, then went into manage my account. I clicked my phone number then clicked add more services. Amongst other things it lists Web N Walk at £6.38 per month. Can someone please confirm that this is the UNLIMITED WNW allowance?
Hi, the price on the web is probably without VAT. I have a flext 35 contract i just got about 3 weeks ago and i have the web n walk service for £7.50
It's totally unlimited for normal web browsing, msn, and email, etc.
No peer to peer stuff is to be done on this connection, also you can't use it as a modem for a laptop, so in other words just the standard stuff.
But it works and its great, it works lovly and fast on my MDA pro and its well worth it!
Ok thanks for the reply! I have just added the option, can I start using unlimited WNW immediately?
You should ask that question to t-MObile, try cust services on 150 from your T-Mobile phone.
itwasntme187 said:
It's totally unlimited for normal web browsing, msn, and email, etc.
No peer to peer stuff is to be done on this connection, also you can't use it as a modem for a laptop, so in other words just the standard stuff.
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And I was looking forward to streaming internet radio for free.
I phoned T-mobile having just switched to their tariff with WnW and asked - "If VOIP/p2p/internet modem etc. is not part of WnW and I use it, how is it billed?"
I was told that at the moment they ARE allowed within the WnW allowance and the caveats are there to protect them against overuse, I asked the person I spoke to to double check and had it confirmed by her manager!?
Odd, looks like ATM they're not monitoring
I can't help but wonder how they could tell the difference between using data on a handset and using the handset as a modem for a laptop.
To me the usage would be identical as the modem connection would be invisib;e to their billing/usage monitors.
Is anyone else not able to send picture messages? I've been trying since I got my wizard.. lol... if you know how, please, do tell...
you need to find ArcSoft MMS.. it shouldnt be too hard.. and then go to your carrier's website and look for the MMS settings. if you have cingular or att i know that it isnt hard.. good luck
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I was hoping there was a free way to do it... lol I think you have to pay for ArcSoft...
You shouldnt have to.. I saw it in a bunch of places on the XDA FTP.. it also is here: http://rapidshare.com/users/IW25NT towards the bottom. take a look for the settings too, they shouldnt be too hard to find on the carrier's site.
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found it by itself
http://rapidshare.com/files/13371107/ArcSoft_MMS_Composer_WWE.cab
have fun!
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Only problem is I am using crossbow reloaded wm6 .. and it doesnt give me an option for MMS configuration.
it should work with it.. i had it working w/ wm6.. try it out.. see what happens...
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It's telling me it cant be installed because its not signed digitaly by a trusted certificate
that makes no sense.. i had no problem.. you have to find the setting that allows that to be installed and allow it. im not sure where it is.. but it should be there somewhere. you may want to google it or find a newer version of it on google
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Madcap180 said:
Only problem is I am using crossbow reloaded wm6 .. and it doesnt give me an option for MMS configuration.
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Crossbow Reloaded has MMS in it already. There is no reason to install it. You have to configure your providers settings. Have you done this? There are cabs on the second post of that thread you can use.
Mfrazzz, those settings will connect me to MediaNET right? I dont have MediaNET service... I was actually trying to see if it was possible to send them VIA WIFI.. so I dont get charged my money hungry cingular... <probably the last carrier to offer unlimited txt messaging.. lol>
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Crossbow Reloaded has MMS in it already. There is no reason to install it. You have to configure your providers settings. Have you done this? There are cabs on the second post of that thread you can use.
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I'm having a similar problem. There's no MMS "folder" or anything of the sort when I goto messages. There's no MMS anything anywhere that I can find. Using Crossbow reloaded 1.7. I downloaded the cabs, only one installed, the other one didn't. Then I installed the Arcsoft, and nothing. Whats worse is you can't search the forum for "MMS" so I'm stuck.
Any advice?
Madcap180 said:
Mfrazzz, those settings will connect me to MediaNET right? I dont have MediaNET service... I was actually trying to see if it was possible to send them VIA WIFI.. so I dont get charged my money hungry cingular... <probably the last carrier to offer unlimited txt messaging.. lol>
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MMS and SMS are via MediaNet. Has nothing to do with WiFi. So if you send MMS or SMS its going to go across GPRS and you will have to pay for network fees. Whats worse (unless something has changed) MMS counts against both Messaging and Network usage. So if you have a plan with Cingular for 200 messages, sending or receiving an MMS will count as one of your messages (sent or received). But then you also get charged for the network usage for uploading / downloading the picture along with that.
IMO: If you are with Cingular and you are going to do texting and MMS, its worth it to pay for like the MediaMax 200. Something like $20 a month, and you get 200 messages and unlimited internet. Yeah, we have 8125's and are supposed to be on the PDA Unlimited plan ($40 a month and thats with NO text messaging!!!) but if you flash a custom rom and only put on the cab in my link, you can do just a MediaNet plan for much cheaper and they don't know the difference (there is a whole thread on the Cingular MediaNet stuff in the Wizard forum).
nitefallz said:
I'm having a similar problem. There's no MMS "folder" or anything of the sort when I goto messages. There's no MMS anything anywhere that I can find. Using Crossbow reloaded 1.7. I downloaded the cabs, only one installed, the other one didn't. Then I installed the Arcsoft, and nothing. Whats worse is you can't search the forum for "MMS" so I'm stuck.
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EIther you have a bad flash or something else has happened, as the MMS stuff is there (arcsoft and all). If you don't have MMS setup, thats probably why its not showing up. Who is your cell provider? use their website to get your MMS stuff setup. I have the Cingular cab in the Crossbow Reloaded 1.7 thread and there are links for T-Mobile, and some other non-US services there too.
But believe me, everything is there to do MMS in that rom... If you have issues then switch to the new 1.7.1 rom that is in "public beta" right now as initial reports is its working better (no dialpad issue so far like 1.7 had).
Mfrazz, actually, Cingular offers a 40 dollars for unlimited everything now...
Madcap180 said:
Mfrazz, actually, Cingular offers a 40 dollars for unlimited everything now...
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Right, that is the MediaMax unlimited (or something like that). But if you call Cingular, they will tell you you can't have that as you have a PDA phone. Only thing we are supposed to have with these devices is the PDA Connect for $40 and thats just net access and now Messaging. The key / trick is to only use the wap.cingular.com access and then you can use MediaMax (whatever flavor you want). I don't do enough texting to justify $40 a month, so the $20 with unlimited internet and 200 messages works fantastic for me (seeing how I was paying $45 a month for PDA Connect and the $5 for 200 messages plan). You then change your data plan via their website (or if you call in tell them your 8125 isn't working and you are using a Razor or some Nokia phone right now).
Yeah thats what I did.. I changed it online.. .. Cingular is full of weasles..
I have the g1 and I'm using the apn (internet2.voicestream.com) because it comes free on my account ( I have a very old grandfathered plan) but my mms won't work. I've tried lots of settings I found on the net. Can anyone help me? Thank you.
I think I had found in this forum a thread on howto use the built in msn client of a us phone with a foreign simcard (doesnt work normally because tmobile sends this messages via sms and charges you I think).
I searched now for 30 minutes and I cant find the thread anymore, or the page where the modification was described (it works, I have done it one my phone, then it sends messages via data). Any help from you ? Perhaps someone knows the website ?
Thanks
Hate to break this to you, but the built in MSN client uses WIFI.... or the built in data plan.... there shouldn't be anything regarding SMS I think? I could be totally wrong though....
But I have it working without the SMS function....
Aism
meeker, you are right, the msn client does not use messaging.
Meeker said:
Hate to break this to you, but the built in MSN client uses WIFI.... or the built in data plan....
Aism
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It seems that when using a non-T-Mobile SIM card, the built-in MSN client wouldn't work, giving a strange message saying it cannot read the phone number from the SIM card, and refuse to sign in to the server.
I'd love to know if anyone has a solution to this as I sometimes need to use IM over EDGE/GPRS when I am on the road.
KS
Update: I think I found the link with information about a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-452364.html
@Keyser.Soze
Many many thanks for the link, that was exactly what I tried to find. Again: Thank you !
Happy new year !
I have tried to follow the instructions featured in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-452364.html
However, when I tried to use the command "cat /sdcard/IM.odex > /system/app/IM.odex"
The system will give me an error message: "write : no space left on device"]
I am using the modded RC30 firmware version 1.2 and would appreciate it if anyone can give me some advice on this. Thanks in advance!
KS
Strange, worked here.
did you remove the usb cord as told in the manual ? Dont know if that can be the reason....
I have a tmobile sim card but without the specific g1 data plan..and I have the same issue. Also I don't have a g1 with root permissions but only factory R30 firmware.
So no solutions for me?lol
Thanks Christian
hi
are you guys sure that t-mobile dont use messaging when sending messages in msn messenger?
because i had the unlimited data plan and 400 txt messages before and everytime i use msn messenger i checked online for the txt messages used and i had the exact amount left that i used on msn messenger
but only in msn messenger, yahoo and aol, not on the gtalk app.
so i had to switch to unlimited txt messages .
alfmetal said:
hi
are you guys sure that t-mobile dont use messaging when sending messages in msn messenger?
because i had the unlimited data plan and 400 txt messages before and everytime i use msn messenger i checked online for the txt messages used and i had the exact amount left that i used on msn messenger
but only in msn messenger, yahoo and aol, not on the gtalk app.
so i had to switch to unlimited txt messages .
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if you have a g1 plan then it should not be using text messaging, the text messaging MSN messenger program itself hasnt been installed on devices for quite some time.
PAO1908 said:
Strange, worked here.
did you remove the usb cord as told in the manual ? Dont know if that can be the reason....
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I found out what the problem was and it was that /system ran out of free space. After re-flashing to the modded RC8 firmware, I had some free space and was able to copy IM.odex to /system/app. However, after rebooting when I tried to launch IM, it will just go back to the desktop after a couple of seconds. I will try to download the modified IM.odex again and see if I had a corrupted one by accident...
KS
@Keyser.Soze:
Any luck installing it? Did you tried with RC8 Jesusfreke v1.3?
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@Keyser.Soze:
Any luck installing it? Did you tried with RC8 Jesusfreke v1.3?
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I updated to v1.3 today and I noticed that there's more free space in /system. I was able to copy IM.odex to /system/app but after reboot I still get the same result: the IM program won't launch now and will throw me back to the desktop in a second. Don't know what's wrong...
Hmm, i wonder if we can get in contact with the original poster... he didnt really describe how he made/patched IM.odex to make it work. Perhaps its a version problem atm?
MSN does use txt messages just got my bill for 160$ i had the g1 unlimited data plan with 400 txt msgs
should i call t-mobile?
Just tried this myself and its not working for me either.
Currently using JF's RC8 and it just starts to open the IM app then closes and goes back to the home straight away... would really like to get this working.
Phil
Keyser.Soze said:
It seems that when using a non-T-Mobile SIM card, the built-in MSN client wouldn't work, giving a strange message saying it cannot read the phone number from the SIM card, and refuse to sign in to the server.
I'd love to know if anyone has a solution to this as I sometimes need to use IM over EDGE/GPRS when I am on the road.
KS
Update: I think I found the link with information about a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-452364.html
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I'm in Canada, and my Phone has never touched T-mobile's networks.... (SP1 here, Activated by forcing Wifi) That said, I haven't had any problems with it, nor have I had SMS messages being used? That said, I don't have a data plan so I only connect by Wifi..... soooo your experiences may vary?
Meeker
I was having the same issue before and I just tried this fix and it worked perfectly. I have JF mod30 v1.3 installed and now I can log into msn fine.
But there is a reason that people are using rc8 instead of rc30... (because they dont want myfaves $$$)
Did anyone tried this hack on the ADP1?
I am pretty certain that the built in MSN client will work over WiFi, but not over a cellular IP data connection (GPRS, 3G etc).
I'm in the UK and I have an unlocked US device. When connected via WiFi, the MSN client will log in and work correctly, but if I disconnect from the WiFi network it will complain that it cannot read the phone number from my UK sim card.
Therefore, I believe that it designed to use SMS messages when it cannot connect via WiFi so that the operators can derive some revenue from it.
Regards,
Dave
Greetings,
When I purchased my ADP1 for here in Australia I was disappointed at first that the IM client did not come with MSN/Windows Live Messenger like it's T-Mobile G1 bretheren. But I was less upset when I read that the MSN client actually sends SMS's instead of using the internet. Unfortunately I can't find any post confirming/denying this!?
Can someone please confirm this if it is true? Because the JFv1.41 with RC33 installed on my ADP1 has it available under IM, and although somewhat slow to load up (I do have many contacts) it looks/feels as though its on the internet... I am still paranoid I will end up with a bill for thousands of dollars due to SMS's overseas to T-Mobile.
Cheers
Leon
PS. And for that matter can someone also confirm AIM and Yahoo! is not sending via SMS but rather internet? It may seem silly, but peace of mind for many I'm sure.
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here is the answer...
from how I get charged, i honestly can see that it is BOTH text message and data because u need data/internet to access those messenger services and each message u enter in msn live or aim counts as a text message.
thankfully for me, i have family unlimited texting and internet/data plan for my phone... but those messenger usually lags unless u are on 3G or some better connection.
Is that for RC30 and RC8 or just RC30? I thought it just used data.
TommyPickles said:
Greetings,
When I purchased my ADP1 for here in Australia I was disappointed at first that the IM client did not come with MSN/Windows Live Messenger like it's T-Mobile G1 bretheren. But I was less upset when I read that the MSN client actually sends SMS's instead of using the internet. Unfortunately I can't find any post confirming/denying this!?
Can someone please confirm this if it is true? Because the JFv1.41 with RC33 installed on my ADP1 has it available under IM, and although somewhat slow to load up (I do have many contacts) it looks/feels as though its on the internet... I am still paranoid I will end up with a bill for thousands of dollars due to SMS's overseas to T-Mobile.
Cheers
Leon
PS. And for that matter can someone also confirm AIM and Yahoo! is not sending via SMS but rather internet? It may seem silly, but peace of mind for many I'm sure.
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The Y! and AIM apps have always been through SMS on TMo builds for all of their phones. I've heard conflicting reports about MSN though but I would put money on the bulk of it being through SMS. Honestly though, IM through SMS is terrible and has been for years. It's laggy, never up to date and loves to double and triple sends messages. It's the price you pay for not having a data plan.
I know palringo is working on a android app. it is in beta now, they use data only.
http://forum.palringo.com/en/gb/forum/discussion-rooms/enhancement-requests/android-t1350
TimSykes said:
I know palringo is working on a android app. it is in beta now, they use data only.
http://forum.palringo.com/en/gb/forum/discussion-rooms/enhancement-requests/android-t1350
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I've been quietly waiting for these guys as well but at this rate they are turning into another Cerulean Studios. Soon™.
HAHA good point.
TimSykes said:
HAHA good point.
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Joking aside they do have a solid product but at this point I'm just tired of waiting indefinitely. Although, as a G1 owner I should be used to this by now.
Who cares, you should have unlimited data and messaging when using the G1 anyways.
vr24 said:
Who cares, you should have unlimited data and messaging when using the G1 anyways.
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Do you know anything about Australian cellular providers or the OP? No? I didn't think so. If you have nothing to add then move on without brain vomiting on the Post button.
Do I get that right: Every IM messenger from market sends out sms instead of data messages as it normally should? So Hello AIM, Membo IM etc. too?
no the g1 built in IM program uses SMS. Hello AIM uses the internet connection.
Oh, thank god. I was confused by this "The Y! and AIM apps have always been through SMS on TMo builds for all of their phones"....
Thx!
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Who cares, you should have unlimited data and messaging when using the G1 anyways.
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with the g1 plan you get unlimited data, and I think 400 messaging. Or people like myself who dont use the g1 plan have unlimited data, and no messaging but still use t-mobile.
I'm on JF 1.41 RC8 and I just used my prepaid sim in my G1 and chatted on msn for a bit then sent 1 text messages afterwards.
It only deducted the credit for my 1 sms afterwards so I'm fairly confident the IM app (at least Live Messenger) just uses data.
You can use all messengers (aol, icq, msn etc) through standard gtalk application. Just configure jabber transport from other network to gtalk server. Instructions can be googled easily (here an example: http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/general-other-im-news/33739-connect-google-talk-aim-msn-yahoo.html)
Live Messenger Problem
Running the latest JesusFreke RC8 update, with the extra IM clients built into it, and I am receiving the following error when I try to sign into Live Messenger:
Unable to sign into the MSN service. Please try again later.
(Detail: Sorry, the phone number cannot be read from your sim card. Please contact your operator for help).
I have the phone on a T-Mobile contract, and I ported my number over from another network when I got the phone.
Any ideas on what could cause this problem?
Someone on another forum said they could only get live messenger to work while on wifi. Dont know if that helps.
Are you using the stock im apps? They use sms texts to send not data. This might be the problem you are having.
Yes, I am using the stock IM apps. Are there better alternatives?