Hello I have an AT&T Fuze (Raph100) that I have been reflashing roms successfully for a few weeks now. Yesterday night I had some problems with the touch screen being none responsive. This morning I removed the top half portion of the screen protector and then it started responding again. After doing that I reflashed it again and tried to get my android eclair 2.1c version but I was having another problem I had encountered before (I know how to resolve this issue so you don't have to worry about that). I also wanted to try a different rom so I loaded the new energy rom onto the SDcard (energy's latest stable build 21901.Sense2.1.Apr.25.7z) and I loaded it through the boot loader which I had never done before, I always run the wrapper file through USB sync. It went through successfully, but I am wondering if this is what caused my touch screen to become unresponsive. I also hard booted right after the reflash on the Calibration screen as I read somewhere. I did that twice, I don't know if that could cause a problem. My phone is not bricked though, as I have reflashed it multiple times since then with the TPC v3.1 version, the NRG latest build again, as well as MichyPrima's winmo lite boot loader for android eclair v 2.1c version. I plan to purchase a broken fuze to replace the screen if that is the problem in question, but is this even it? Is it possible to "brick" just the touch screen drivers, even though I am capable of reflashing? Do I need to reflash the HARD SPL? Any feedback or advice would be extremely appreciated''
Edit: LCD screen is slightly bleeding on middle left of the screen
I would say it was just a bad digitizer. All screens have to fail at some point in their lives, yours just happened to fail while you were flashing several roms. Just a coincidence.
Okay so it turns out i found some other threads talking about liquid under the screen, and their method to fix it was to use duct tape on the screen and pull it up. This not only alleviated the liquid issue underneath (still a little wet but not the blob) but it also fixed my touchscreen issue. I have had to use this trick a few times due to screen becoming non responsive but hey its better than throwing it away. I looked up a guide on replacing the digitizer and lcd screen and it really doesn't look like its worth it. Ugh wish they had planned the assembly to be more user friendly. I appreciate the help though thanks.
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I wish I had known about the duct tape trick. I wonder if it would have worked for me.
I recently had the same issue you described - a non-responsive touch screen. I had it professionally repaired for (eeek!) $125!
Well don't feel bad, I eventually got tired of doing that since it kept requiring me to do the trick constantly, and the tape would lose its sticking power so I had to carry around duct tape. So lame. So now I have to get it fixed, but luckily I found a place that will do it for $75 YAY.
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I used to have encountered the same issue..
The duct tape worked for me..
But be careful if any of you who encounter the same, will try..
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I installed it and resolved the problem
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Hi all,
I am at my wits end on this problem if anyone can offer any adivice it would be greatly appreciated. So let me give a recap of what has occured thus far. The water damage tag for some reason turn pink thus i am unable to get warranty exchange. I am pretty certain that the phone has never been expose to any water of anything of that sort, but i do live in houston, tx so might be humidity or what not that cause the tag to turn. Anyways.
1. This all started after i flashed RRE 5.2 RC3. Initially after a successful flash everything seem normal and fine. Then next morning i woke up to a frozen screen with many verticial lines running up and down the screen was almost unreadable. Initially i thought it was a bad flash or just random lock up. I did a hard reset and tried to enter the bootloader. Black screen, it does seem like the backlight is coming up but nothing on the screen. I can hear the phone power on and boot successfully into windows. Activesync connects i can browse the contents of the phone.
2. After flashing to stock att rom and stock htc roms same symptoms. So at this point i am thinking crap bad LCD screen. so I ordered both the digitizer and lcd screen for good measure. I replaced them hoping that a bad LCD was all. replaced both screens and i powered on the phone. same problem. black screen. The phone still powers on and boots into windows. Activesync still connects and i cna still reflash the phone.
3. I work extensively and do both desktop pc and notebook repair. I am not new to dealing with small electronic repairs. but at this juncture i am unable to identify the cause of hte malfunction. i am hoping maybe some of the gurus here might be able to shine some light on the subject.
Thanks in advance for any help.
I would have followed the same approach; your description makes it sound like it might be some kind of backlighting issue at first read. I'm inclined to think it might be a cold connection (bad connector) on the main board.
Silly question, what happens if you power up the phone with the keyboard exposed?
*EDIT* Not sure if you have been here yet: http://www.mikechannon.net/
Cheers,
i just tried to power up the phone with keyboard exposed. Powers up the same as with the keyboard hidden. Still boots up fine but black screen. I already have the service manuel dowloaded. i have checked around with several repair places both local and on the web. Seems like no one has any parts for the att fuze/touch pro gsm except for the lcd and digitizer and a speaker.
its quite possible that it is a main board but as the same time it might be something as simple as a ribbon cable. i have contacted htc about doing a possible repair and they want wayyyy too much for just a main board repair almost $400 USD.
Anyone have a bricked/ non working touch pro they would like to sell ? =P
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its quite possible that it is a main board but as the same time it might be something as simple as a ribbon cable.
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Could be a bad ribbon cable ... and firmly pressing around the front/back of the unit shows no change?
pressing the phone front and back show no changes to display. in a very dark room I can see that there is light emitting from the display but its just the screen is not displaying anything visable. this occured both before and after i changed out the screens. I'll do another visual inspection of all the boards to see if there is any bad resistors burnt out circuits etc.. but i didn't notice anything mentionable during my first 2 inspections. Maybe 3rd time is the charm.
Thanks for all the feedback thus far Hilaireg it is quite appreciated. All this venting has at least made me feel 1000% better than after i replaced my lcd and still same problem at least i don't feel like a complete idiot!
Sorry I couldn't be of much help ... you've done all the steps a seasoned hardware person would do.
Do post back to let other folks know if you get it back up and running.
Cheers,
you have a pm fkoong.
I have possibly the same problem. Phone got wet, dried it out for 2 days (in a container of rice). Phone worked but had "water marks" on screen that disappeared after two days and everything was fine for about 2 weeks. Then one day (happened to be humid misting rain eve in Charleston) the screen is blank (hint of backlight only). A soft reset and it seems OK for about 1hr, then blank again. The hard resest screen displayed OK (readbale text etc), but didnt work. But as I write this, I retry to document it results correctly and the NATF ROM is reloading and the screen works! We will see how long!!
Well.. not that long, the end of the ROM load and it went blank again, seems like a video driver problem. The Press VoluP to boot does show some red artifact.
Trying hard reset again (No SIM no uSD)
The NATF v4.4 loads and gives me the Tap screen, Align Screen, stylus, loads customization, opera, tf3d, then loads a bunch of files under ...... and then the screen goes blank again, seem like what happened last time, so Ill try loading a fresh ROM copy... later
Hello everyone,
Today i installed my parrot bluetooth carkit. And after i connected a couple of times my phone became unstable.
So unstable that i'm not able to tap the screen.....
I don't know what happened due that i have hard resetted the phone a couple of times and even switched from m-rom to energyrom 3.0 with the same results.
Only one thing that was strange is that the touch pro start up screen with the red characters in the right bottom.
That after i flashed m-rom to energy rom that the touch pro characters in the middle were still different like the way that are made in m-rom. With the addition : powered by m-rom
So this means that the phone doesnt format his core
Help please give me any advice.
UPDATE:When backlight is dimmed, it will be bright if i touch it once. Afterwards it will maintain the same.
I have tried several roms and tried to restore my SPL aswell, without any results till now.
I'm getting desperate now. Due that i stays in the screen of ALLIGNMENT, so i'm really not able to start up anything from now.
Have you dropped your device recently?
Try flashing a stock/shipped rom and hard-reset when after flashing the rom when you get to the "Tap here to set up your device" screen.
I have a OIL spot in the screen when i keep it in bright light.
This could be occured when the phone was inside my bag during my beach visit.....
I guess the phone turned liquid by the sun....
Does somebody ever experienced the same issue?
fone_fanatic said:
Have you dropped your device recently?
Try flashing a stock/shipped rom and hard-reset when after flashing the rom when you get to the "Tap here to set up your device" screen.
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I have a oil spot, and the raster of the phone with little dots in visible in the ligt.
I have made a repair order at HTC.
Which didn't satisfy me at all!
They told me that it is not covered by warranty. I was shocked, this will cost me around 70 euro to fix, and my shop warranty is still valid. So i called the shop to explain this.
And they said if this is not caused by a user, we will change the phone, but first we what to have a diagnose from HTC.
So i decided to let HTC pick up my phone . They will have a repair time of 5 up till 10 days.
That's fair, but i'm not really happy with this situation. Because i think that the screen is the most harmful component. And this means that if this part fails that my phone becomes obsolete.
I will post my conclusion after i got my phone repaired.
I will return to the STOCK spl and the original rom just for warranty purposes.
dont tell them that you spilt anything on it or dropped it. Although they will be able to tell if there is water damage to the device you might get lucky and they won't notice.
Now is the oil spot from leaving it in the sun or suntan lotion getting in the device?
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dont tell them that you spilt anything on it or dropped it. Although they will be able to tell if there is water damage to the device you might get lucky and they won't notice.
Now is the oil spot from leaving it in the sun or suntan lotion getting in the device?
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Nope nothing happened at all.
Thats the strange thing about this situation.
I was in the shadow of the sun and the bags were only filled with clothes. So it didn't drop or something else.
I was able to use my phone during the day.... and was getting more unresponsive during the time that went by.
So i will not accept any blame of myself, due that i have a warranty of 1 year from the factory which will not cover your display :S
But also have the store warranty... So i told the store that i will return the phone if there are any costs.
The store told me that they will wait on the diagnose of HTC which i have sent it to myself to reduce the time.
If the diagnose tells that it's not my fault, then i can return my phone probably.... He couldn't promise it due that i want to see the diagnose first.
So I will wait on HTC's conclusion.... And i'm afraid that they will try to blame me for it....
They better not I will be a pain in there arses
Hello, I have exactly the same problem. After flashing from energyrom 3.0 to Aurora, a few hours later, i couldn't get my phone out of lock. (slide a button to the right or left on your touchscreen)
I tried a soft reset, but the phone started up with the same locked screen. So, i tried a hard reset. From that moment on i got stuck at "align screen". I ve flashed several times with several ROM's but nothing. (by the way, whatever rom i install, the first screen always says: Energyrom by NTGZ28)
I used the trick to paste welcome.not on the micro card, to bypass the align screen. That works, but the touch screen doesn't work. I 've removed the protection of the screen, but that doesn't make a difference either. My device didn't fall, came into contact with water or anything that could harm the thing. Oh, when the backlight is dimmed, the screen reacts to tapping it. Please help me out ??
resolt the issue. Because of a lot scraches (spelled ok?), i removed the protective screen. When i put the new screen on, everything worked !
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I have a OIL spot
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i had does as well and then touch screen stopped working..
had to replace digitizer, unfortunately had to replace LCD screen and digitizer at the end (was not able to separate digitizer from LCD)
I need to align the screen again & again can any one help me out wer the problem lies
how did this happen? i also encounter a similar problem, when the phone gets warm... when i press on the right side, the click registers mode and more to the left... and when that happend, if i try to go to the alignment screen, it just hangs in there like.. forever... if i put the phone in standby mode, everything gets back to normal in a few minutes.. the problem repeats every time the phone gets warm...
Same
First i was also having the similar problem but now its totally unaligned i.e even after a time its same i click on extreme left it click on extreme right
nasty man... dunno why this is happening... so, my screen is dying.. damn :| what kind of mods did u do to your phone? software ones
I have the same problem! Seems this is an manufacturing issue that's affecting many Diamonds! Does the warranty cover this?
Same problem
Hi Guys,
i'm also facing the same problem,
i have hard resetted my mobile then for a week it worked fine and then again the same problem... damn i lost my all data while hard resetting.... does any one have solution.
did u guys found n e solution
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did u guys found n e solution
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YEAH! ) i sent mine to warranty today, lol 15 long days at max until it will be back in my loving arms
i dont know if this might help
i used to have flickering screen, not being able to display alpha blend, transparencies or the colour black, and also not being able to keep the screen alignment (it resets everytime i soft reset the phone) ....
this happens when i used the latest update from htc.
it seems that the upgrade is not suitable for devices bought in 2008 as it has the ols original spl.
i read in the forum and found out that the radio, and the hard spl was part of the problem. so i read on and found that by using Olipro's hard spl 1.93 will fix most of the problem. but its for only gsm devices.
i flashed 1.93 hard spl and all my problems went away...
just sharing!!
i can see some leaked fluid above my screen ........... i cannot even explain it , because it's above the screen but i cannot touch it ........ so it's in between.....
i've had the same thing happen to me and sent it in for warranty.
came back ok for awhile, now its happening again. I usually just suspend my phone (power button) and give the LCD a rub that helps it a little, buts its quite unbearable at times.
I've sent it in to warranty for a second time today, warranty is expiring on the 8th of next month so they better fix it by then .
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i used to have flickering screen, not being able to display alpha blend, transparencies or the colour black, and also not being able to keep the screen alignment (it resets everytime i soft reset the phone) ....
this happens when i used the latest update from htc.
it seems that the upgrade is not suitable for devices bought in 2008 as it has the ols original spl.
i read in the forum and found out that the radio, and the hard spl was part of the problem. so i read on and found that by using Olipro's hard spl 1.93 will fix most of the problem. but its for only gsm devices.
i flashed 1.93 hard spl and all my problems went away...
just sharing!!
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HardSPL didnt fix my problems have flickering (blurry/vibrating screen) but it disapears after setting the phone in standby and waking it up again.
bevoc said:
i used to have flickering screen, not being able to display alpha blend, transparencies or the colour black, and also not being able to keep the screen alignment (it resets everytime i soft reset the phone) ....
this happens when i used the latest update from htc.
it seems that the upgrade is not suitable for devices bought in 2008 as it has the ols original spl.
i read in the forum and found out that the radio, and the hard spl was part of the problem. so i read on and found that by using Olipro's hard spl 1.93 will fix most of the problem. but its for only gsm devices.
i flashed 1.93 hard spl and all my problems went away...
just sharing!!
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HardSPL didnt fix my problems have flickering (blurry/vibrating screen) but it disapears after setting the phone in standby and waking it up again. (Only gets blurry flickery at boot)
My diamond only get flickery at the boot and by going to standby and back it disapears.
Guess im lucky
I have the same screen align problem. When the phone gets hot, the screen alignment screw up, similar to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-IUzerAT0s&feature=related
I was told this is a hw problem as I've tried flashing different ROMs, update radios etc. but still doesn't help.
Right now I'm trying to avoid using the phone when charging or when it becomes warm. That seems to help a bit. Not sure if replacing the screen will help but a few folks here have suggested that.
ye iv had enough of this problem shall embark on replacing the lcd in a few weeks
JexL said:
ye iv had enough of this problem shall embark on replacing the lcd in a few weeks
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Please do update if replacing the LCD does in fact get rid of the problem
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ye iv had enough of this problem shall embark on replacing the lcd in a few weeks
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dont think that actually helps - you'll prob need to replace the digitizer .
hello2004 said:
I have the same screen align problem. When the phone gets hot, the screen alignment screw up, similar to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-IUzerAT0s&feature=related
I was told this is a hw problem as I've tried flashing different ROMs, update radios etc. but still doesn't help.
Right now I'm trying to avoid using the phone when charging or when it becomes warm. That seems to help a bit. Not sure if replacing the screen will help but a few folks here have suggested that.
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Long story short: it is a hardware problem! nothing you can do to fix it via software... and it gets worse, so get it fixed
I have just received mine from service a few days ago... Of course i lost my warranty and I paid almost 200$ to get it fixed... The front case gets replaced entirely (that includes both digitizer and LCD), because it comes in one piece... all components are stuck together that is, even if you have a perfectly working LCD, it will be replaced anyway... Fortunately this helped and I am not experiencing any problems... Also I've been told that this problem may occur again, after some time (1-2 years), if the phone is heavily used (gps, connected on 3G + screen awake for a long period of time), and that the simptoms may vary: some get the digitizer / misalignment problem, others get weird spots on their lcd, etc...
Hope i didn't make to many mistakes and that my reply will help you understand and get your problem solved...
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Long story short: it is a hardware problem! nothing you can do to fix it via software... and it gets worse, so get it fixed
I have just received mine from service a few days ago... Of course i lost my warranty and I paid almost 200$ to get it fixed... The front case gets replaced entirely (that includes both digitizer and LCD), because it comes in one piece... all components are stuck together that is, even if you have a perfectly working LCD, it will be replaced anyway... Fortunately this helped and I am not experiencing any problems... Also I've been told that this problem may occur again, after some time (1-2 years), if the phone is heavily used (gps, connected on 3G + screen awake for a long period of time), and that the simptoms may vary: some get the digitizer / misalignment problem, others get weird spots on their lcd, etc...
Hope i didn't make to many mistakes and that my reply will help you understand and get your problem solved...
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I'm not too sure about that actually - how you stated the LCD / Digitizer and case comes all in one.
I've actually experienced the same issue, sent it back the first time. Fonebiz did not replace anything but a flex cable. Ironically, issue came back after a months time.
Sent it in a second time for warranty, i specifically included a note stating the issue - they replaced the LCD, but did not replace the digitizer; so guess what ? issue came back within the month.
Phone was finally out of warranty, i decided to send HTC a ***** email and they were very helpful and they've promised me a replacement. Waiting for Fonebiz to check for hardware faults if its all clear then i get a new phone
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I'm not too sure about that actually - how you stated the LCD / Digitizer and case comes all in one.
I've actually experienced the same issue, sent it back the first time. Fonebiz did not replace anything but a flex cable. Ironically, issue came back after a months time.
Sent it in a second time for warranty, i specifically included a note stating the issue - they replaced the LCD, but did not replace the digitizer; so guess what ? issue came back within the month.
Phone was finally out of warranty, i decided to send HTC a ***** email and they were very helpful and they've promised me a replacement. Waiting for Fonebiz to check for hardware faults if its all clear then i get a new phone
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i assure you cannot replace just the lcd, not without a hammer! I got my old part back, I can take some pictures of it, just in case And the digitizer is one and the same with the front case... the diamond is a very small phone, that's why there are no screws or other stuff to hold together the lcd and the rest of the case.
So unfortunately for you, they may have told you they replaced the lcd, but i think they did nothing :|
It is very clear that we had the same problem... the digitizer itself got broken... not some cable or lcd
anyway, if your phone has warranty, you are a happy man
My phone freaked out today and the right side of the screen is non-responsive. It played havoc with the lock screen and once I got in, it was opening apps and switching from one thing to another as if someone was touching the right side of the screen. I was running the SteelEpicBlue V4 ROM, so I had to reflash back to Cincy Bell ROM before taking it to the store.
For those with the Otterbox, has anyone experienced touch screen sensitivity issues? I took the screen protector portion of the Otterbox off to see if that was an issue, but it didn't fix anything.
I have the insurance, so I hope the replacement XT720 doesn't have the same issues.
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My phone freaked out today and the right side of the screen is non-responsive. It played havoc with the lock screen and once I got in, it was opening apps and switching from one thing to another as if someone was touching the right side of the screen. I was running the SteelEpicBlue V4 ROM, so I had to reflash back to Cincy Bell ROM before taking it to the store.
For those with the Otterbox, has anyone experienced touch screen sensitivity issues? I took the screen protector portion of the Otterbox off to see if that was an issue, but it didn't fix anything.
I have the insurance, so I hope the replacement XT720 doesn't have the same issues.
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I assume the problem persisted after flashing back to the stock ROM? To me it sounds like a hardware issue. I think you'll be fine with the replacement.
The phone wasn't acting like it was experiencing random screen touches, but the keyboard still wouldn't recognize touches to the "p" or the "b" keys (in portrait mode, anyway).
I know this is bringing up an old thread, but relative to the problem stated above, I got a replacement XT720 several months ago, yet the replacement is now doing the same thing. Using the stock keyboard, I cannot use the p/0 key and expect it to freak out like before in the next few weeks. No one else has seen this issue?
So I went ahead and dropped my phone smashing the screen in which also caused the digitizer to go too. Happen before so I thought no problem. I bought a replacement but noticed that it didnt have the sony branding on it, didnt care. But after installing it, ive encountered a massive problem(check video)
It makes me think the screen is incompatable or something as all it does is boot, flash a red led a few times and then reboots. All this without actually displaying an image, only backlight.
I thought it maybe that the screen firmware is different. So I reflashed firmware, it booted still no image though. Then after rebooting it, the same problem reoccurs. I've also taken it apart and reseated all connections but no luck.
So I'd appreciate any help you can provide as I dont want to have to spend a lot more money on an OEM screen but I feel that may be the only fix.