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Hi guys,
Any good ideas how to :
1- correct this layout in the first screenshot?
2 - reduce font size in the second screenshot?
Forward thks
SEE HERE POST 18 & 19 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4432627#post4432627
it looks like my topaz when i tried new font, so try to change yours and it should be ok
Agreed with the above. It's the font size. Either 1. Install a new font. or 2. Re-make the font a little smaller.
prdic said:
it looks like my topaz when i tried new font, so try to change yours and it should be ok
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Well ... thks for those precious information. Unfortunately, this is what I thought ... too. I should have added that I wanted to keep the fonts. I like those two
I tried to change font size with SK or tweak but with any results.
Any other suggestion ?
Have you tried setting up an alias? Its a registry tweak
Code:
HKLM → System → GDI → V1 → FontAlias
Key: [B]<fontNameToChange>[/B]: [B]<fontSizeToChange>[/B]
Value: [B]<newName>[/B]: [B]<newSize>[/B]
for example:
Code:
key: MS Sans Serif:-13
value: Arial:-14
will change all MS Sans Serif fonts in size 13 to Arial size 14
but you have to find out which size you have
keep in mind that this change is system-wide, it will affect not only today screen, but all apps with same fontname and size.
while i havent tried this, couldnt you edit the lua file (CalendarConsts.luac) and just change the line font size in there?
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Have you tried setting up an alias? Its a registry tweak
Code:
HKLM → System → GDI → V1 → FontAlias
Key: [B]<fontNameToChange>[/B]: [B]<fontSizeToChange>[/B]
Value: [B]<newName>[/B]: [B]<newSize>[/B]
for example:
Code:
key: MS Sans Serif:-13
value: Arial:-14
will change all MS Sans Serif fonts in size 13 to Arial size 14
but you have to find out which size you have
keep in mind that this change is system-wide, it will affect not only today screen, but all apps with same fontname and size.
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Hi,
I have allready alias in the registgry and how you said ... the most difficult is to find which size I have. I tried several settings out but gave nothing. Probably I used inapropriate combinations. How to find it out ?
However, something looks strange ...
This was my registry setting before I tried to change fonts size
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\V1\FontAlias]
Arial:-14="Tahoma:-12"
MS Sans Serif:-13="Tahoma:-9"
version=dword:0002000C
This is my registry setting after I changed fonts size
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\V1\FontAlias]
Arial:-14="Tahoma:-12"
MS Sans Serif:-13="Tahoma:-9"
version=dword:0002000C
And whatever fonts I install (with diffent sizes), registry settings above remains identical. That means there is no relation beetwen original installed fonts and graphic fonts, no ? The best way is certainly to change size in the original graphic font. I saw somewhere an app and a tuto explaining how to create your own graphic fonts ... Have to find it again
font size
hi bro, look like only the numbers are the problem. You can use font creator to resize them. ( but its NOT freeware ).
Can you upload that font that you are using here?
kangmas said:
hi bro, look like only the numbers are the problem. You can use font creator to resize them. ( but its NOT freeware ).
Can you upload that font that you are using here?
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Hi,
'scuze ... bro ? what does it means, bro ?
Have you ever seen something on the net which is not free ?
Well .. I can post them. Could you resize them and repost then of course ?
kangmas said:
hi bro, look like only the numbers are the problem. You can use font creator to resize them. ( but its NOT freeware ).
Can you upload that font that you are using here?
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Question regarding using Fonts Creator application ...
The installed font for TF3D uses :
cour.ttf
Helvetica Neue OTS.ttf
HelveticaNeue LT 35.ttf
HelveticaNeueOTS.ttf
Tahoma.ttf
Tohamabd.ttf
Wingding.ttf
Which one of those fonts do I need to resize with the app ?
thereisntone said:
Hi,
And whatever fonts I install (with diffent sizes), registry settings above remains identical. That means there is no relation beetwen original installed fonts and graphic fonts, no ? The best way is certainly to change size in the original graphic font. I saw somewhere an app and a tuto explaining how to create your own graphic fonts ... Have to find it again
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I think you misunderstood what alias is supposed to do
You have to create new key with font name and size, so in your case, the name of key should be something like "Comic Sans: -18" (that minus sign stands for relative height, as you know it from Word, without minus sign it will take a height in pixels). The key value then should be for example "Comic Sans: -16". That will cause that everything that was displayed in Comic Sans 18 will be shown in Comic Sans 16.
You just have to figure out the correct font name and the font size that is used on today.
And repeat the same for Manilla calendar. Seems like you have different font in that app.
ztracenyDen said:
I think you misunderstood what alias is supposed to do
You have to create new key with font name and size, so in your case, the name of key should be something like "Comic Sans: -18" (that minus sign stands for relative height, as you know it from Word, without minus sign it will take a height in pixels). The key value then should be for example "Comic Sans: -16". That will cause that everything that was displayed in Comic Sans 18 will be shown in Comic Sans 16.
You just have to figure out the correct font name and the font size that is used on today.
And repeat the same for Manilla calendar. Seems like you have different font in that app.
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Yep, it becomes clearer. However it seems, this works only if you have classical fonts and not graphical fonts composed by assembly of different fonts as well as you pointed it out.
That's a nightmare this manila and this TF3D
manila uses these:
Helvetica Neue OTS
HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin (that's not a typo, no space between helveticaneue)
I think aliasing will work on any font you enter. Just get the right name ;-)
I am using SKTools to figure out font names (Tune Up - Fonts - there is a list of fonts). But I am sure there is a "freeware" way to figure it out For example Total Commander and his Change Font menu in About screen
ztracenyDen said:
manila uses these:
Helvetica Neue OTS
LT 35 Thin (that's not a typo, no space between helveticaneue)
I think aliasing will work on any font you enter. Just get the right name ;-)
I am using SKTools to figure out font names (Tune Up - Fonts - there is a list of fonts). But I am sure there is a "freeware" way to figure it out For example Total Commander and his Change Font menu in About screen
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Hi,
Thks for you patience ... it will cost me 2 beers next time I go to Tchequie However, even I did harder thinks in my life, I am being probably stupid and I am unable to bring it out.
Lets have a look on enclosed files :
For test, I reduced all fonts size categories to 200 p with SK Tools but only popup menu's fonts decreassed .... and no manila fonts and no TF3D fonts ! No lucky to with MaxTTM (here I got an system error ...)
I fiddle somethig with the registry ... no luck again ! Certainly wrong, what I did. Nowhere to manage HelveticaNeue in SK Tools
Yes, for special thinks ... I am a noob especially for the time
Your future help, comments, solution (ie correct my screenshots and send them back) will be welcome
"bro" is a simple english gesture for friend.
resize
thereisntone said:
Hi,
'scuze ... bro ? what does it means, bro ?
Have you ever seen something on the net which is not free ?
Well .. I can post them. Could you resize them and repost then of course ?
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Hi bro, have check your cab file. And I see the problem. Its made up of 3 different type of fonts. So resizing them wont be simple or easy for me. Perhaps others with more skill can try. Why not you try this fonts that I pack for Topaz. Just click on the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4151058&postcount=7
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"bro" is a simple english gesture for friend.
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Yup, thanks for explaining.
Hi,
I love this Bro .. will try to remerber it
Thks any way for the ole Cambria Italic ... I will keep my ComicFonts and give up for the other exotic fonts until I find a solution (if there is one)
Hi Bro ...s
HERE WE GO !! Finally I got it !
Probably I did not chose the best way to solve my font layout problem, but I did it.
How did I make it? Simple ... (say it quick) because in fact it is not really simple. Find somewhere on the net, Fontcreator app (V5 or V6 better).
1- Open all fonts or just this one which is concerned by :
tahomabd.ttf -> WM bold font (task and bottombar and ...)
or
tahoma.ttf -> WM6.5 regular font (regular text)
or
HelveticaNeueOTS.ttf -> TF3D Regular Font (all titles text in TF3D tab.)
or
HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin.ttf -> TF3D Bold Font (all small text in TF3D tab)
2- Check and/or adjust "the left side bearing point" in "Glyphs transformer" in "tools"
3- Check and/or adjust "metrics" for the glyphs (space before and after glyphs)
4- If necessary, adjust glyphs width and/or height by using outlines scale in Glyphs Transformer
5- Save your font(s), rebuild your cab, install on your D2
Guys ... Usually fonts looking nice on website page but once installeted on your ppc, they are unreadable. Beware of using fonts coming from other forum or thread. Incredible what you can find in the cab or in the font files ! Amazing !
Enclosed two fonts cabs with correct layout for D2 and in case in ... zip file with original fonts.
*******
I remain opened to any other solution ... for futur font changing because this was the worst ! There should be a way to change some other parameters in WM6.5 or TF3D
Cheers
Hi Bros
There an other way to correct a wrong layout due to inadapted font size !!!!!
Forget those all previous posts from every one above ... to much work and to wasted time. However, I have learned how to manage FontCreator
Go to windows directory and copy and paste to your desktop (or some where else), the files "Titanium_800x480.cpr" and "Titanium_480x800.cpr" Open them with notepad or any other txt editor. Go to <!-- Title text --> find the concerned "ID Text" and change the values, you want or, that need to be changed (color, size, layout ....)
You just need to stay clear headed about what do you want.
Have fun
I want to customize the slider and icons of the home screen tabs by myself (in Photoshop)?
Where are the images of these stored and what registry keys do I need to change (if any)?
Thanks
PS: I use JWMD for the start menu icons, is there a similar app for the home screen tab? - probably not
please guys, somebody help me with this.
i reformulated my request, i've been probably misunderstood - that would explain why nobody bothered to answer by now...
this is my last attempt to get your attention into this. I can't believe none of the people who know answered, is this such a big secret?
antaed said:
this is my last attempt to get your attention into this. I can't believe none of the people who know answered, is this such a big secret?
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Hi Antaed.
I'm surprised too that no one has replied to your question.
I think the problem is not so much that it is a big secret, but that it is very complicated and therefore difficult to reply to.
I've done a bit of work on changing icons myself, so I can probably explain to you what is involved and what you have to do. But you will need to decide for yourself whether you want to put in the effort...
The slider icons (and the slider itself) are .png images stored in manila files. So the first thing you will need to do is find out, for your version of Manila, which files contain the slider icons for your version.
The best way to find out which files you need to change is to 'unzip' an existing cab which changes the slider icons on your version of manila and read the setup.xml file to extract the names of the manila files in the cab.
Please note that there are 3 files for each slider icon!
Then you will need to extract the .png files from the manila files. I use CFC GUI (available on this forum) to extract the .png files.
Once you have the original .png files, you will see that the slider icons do not take up the whole 128x128 pixels of the file but are placed approximately in the top left corner of the .png file. This will be your guide as to how big to make your new icons and where to place the new icon within the 128x128 matrix.
Please note that there are two different positions depending on whether the image you are replacing is the standard position in the row of icons or the icon visible 'within' the slider (seen as you move the slider along the row of icons), which is slightly higher and to the left.
Once you have created your new .png files in the same format as the originals, you should then use CFC GUI again to replace the original image with your new ones in the appropriate manila file.
You can then either manually move your new manila files across to your device (not recommended) or create a cab file to install them (and uninstall them) in one go (highly recommended!).
I would advise (from experience) only doing a couple of icons first until you have the exact position for the icon with the file. The position should then be the same for every icon.
The slider itself is fortunately only one file and therefore a lot easier to change. Again the best way to find out which manila file you need to change for your version is to unzip a cab file that changes the slider on your version and read the setup.xml file.
Hope this helps... (Well, at least you got an answer!)
And "No", I do not know of an easier way of doing this!
Johnkst, thanks for your kind reply, I started to have doubts I'll get an answer to this .
About the procedure - yes, it's pretty challenging but I'll try .
First because it's kind of a new adventure for me and then because I feel I owe it to you now, as I don't want to leave your effort in vain .
If I'll succeed (and I don't see why not) you'll be the first to receive my work.
Thanks again and best regards,
Antaed
Changing slider icons and the slider...
antaed said:
Johnkst, thanks for your kind reply, I started to have doubts I'll get an answer to this .
About the procedure - yes, it's pretty challenging but I'll try .
First because it's kind of a new adventure for me and then because I feel I owe it to you now, as I don't want to leave your effort in vain .
If I'll succeed (and I don't see why not) you'll be the first to receive my work.
Thanks again and best regards,
Antaed
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That's the right attitude, Antaed...!
I don't know if it will help you, but I am attaching two cabs to this post. They are ones I made myself for my HD2, which uses Manila 2.5.1920. I THINK the same files are used for 1921, but I don't know for sure...
There might be some stuff in there that you do not need, but they might also be useful to help you identify the files you need to change.
One is for the clear slider on the main tabs (it also slightly changes the black '2nd level' slider), the other for the slider icons.
The slider icons it installs are those from Jaguaralani. Let me know once you have downloaded as I will remove them again. I know Jaguaralani does not want his/her theme split up and my posting a cab which installs only the slider icons probably goes against those wishes... - Done!
Good luck!
done, thanks.
Hi all,
I have spent this afternoon searching for a way to edit and create a theme.
I know you will ask, and yes I have searched and still not sure what is needed to create and make themes for windows mobile 6.5.
Does it matter what rom you are using?
where can i find a default theme to start with?
are the themes in a dll file like windows, as this is what i have been searching for, this is what i'm use to and really feel lost.
Thanks for any help or even better is there a link for a guide?
Hi,
Just download a theme from this forum and modify the graphics inside it.
That's the way I learned it too.
While modifying you will start to learn how everything works.
Good luck!
Cheers,
EC
BTW: next time post in the Q&A section, this thread will be moved to it soon.
Mostly the Themes are .tsk format so the tsk can be installed if is made in CAB or the .tsk file can be copyed in windows the both ways will work.
Also to help you and to understannd how to make Themes.. depends on the Theme you want is not so Hard.. of course im talking about a basic Theme not to create a WP7 like theme lol
You will need only one TOOL but its not free the good news is that he have a 30 days free period and you have enought time to read and also to create many themes..
Download WinCeCABManager on your desktop pc then by your choice download ANY Theme you like.. the Wince can OPEN cab files also can open tsk files also can do alot more things.. so
For example if you downloat a TSK theme file you can open it with WinCe and see whats going on there..then you can edit it and do some theme by yourself is the Theme is cab file.. its the same you can Open the CAB with WinCe and extract all the components..
Normaly even if you download a CAB file theme.. in the CAB will be the tsk. file
The Themes can be the same for many devices and on the same time to be diferent this ALL depends from the Theme.. for example if you want to create a Theme that only will change the Softkey Bar Task Bar and Wallpaper.. this is just example and you make this theme with WVGA resolution the theme will work in every WVGA device... because the Bars and the wallpaper are just simple PNG images.. but if your theme will include some MANILA files for example ..... sliders...Clocks... everything in the UI is made with MANILA FILES so will not work for all device.. because 1st have diferent versions for example the Manila files in Sense 2.1 are diferent than sense 2.5 Mostly they are the same size but with diferent names.. so if you make full theme for WVGA device and the theme include some Manila tweaks for 2.1 Sense your theme will work in ALL WVGA devices who are with manila 2.1 Sense.. im just explaining you to understand how this work.
Its not dificult and you can start simple by editing the bars images wallpapers etc when you see how it work.. you can begin make other things..
If you know how to work well with Photoshop you will be able to make awesome Themes.. because the WHOLE visual Look on our devices is based on IMAGES also the Manila Files are Images... but not all ofcourse..
If you want to edit MANILA files.. you can download CFC GUI from XDA with this powerfull tool you can Extract the image from the Manila file.. you can edit the image how you like it.. and again with this tool you can make it again to be MANILA file from png..
REMEMBER one of the most importmantly things in all graphic files are the SIZE and location.. so if you have the default images will be easy for you to know what you are doing...
Thats all i try to explain you short ... hope to understand me a bit
Moved as not theme release.
tsalta said:
Mostly the Themes are .tsk format so the tsk can be installed if is made in CAB or the .tsk file can be copyed in windows the both ways will work.
Also to help you and to understannd how to make Themes.. depends on the Theme you want is not so Hard.. of course im talking about a basic Theme not to create a WP7 like theme lol
You will need only one TOOL but its not free the good news is that he have a 30 days free period and you have enought time to read and also to create many themes..
Download WinCeCABManager on your desktop pc then by your choice download ANY Theme you like.. the Wince can OPEN cab files also can open tsk files also can do alot more things.. so
For example if you downloat a TSK theme file you can open it with WinCe and see whats going on there..then you can edit it and do some theme by yourself is the Theme is cab file.. its the same you can Open the CAB with WinCe and extract all the components..
Normaly even if you download a CAB file theme.. in the CAB will be the tsk. file
The Themes can be the same for many devices and on the same time to be diferent this ALL depends from the Theme.. for example if you want to create a Theme that only will change the Softkey Bar Task Bar and Wallpaper.. this is just example and you make this theme with WVGA resolution the theme will work in every WVGA device... because the Bars and the wallpaper are just simple PNG images.. but if your theme will include some MANILA files for example ..... sliders...Clocks... everything in the UI is made with MANILA FILES so will not work for all device.. because 1st have diferent versions for example the Manila files in Sense 2.1 are diferent than sense 2.5 Mostly they are the same size but with diferent names.. so if you make full theme for WVGA device and the theme include some Manila tweaks for 2.1 Sense your theme will work in ALL WVGA devices who are with manila 2.1 Sense.. im just explaining you to understand how this work.
Its not dificult and you can start simple by editing the bars images wallpapers etc when you see how it work.. you can begin make other things..
If you know how to work well with Photoshop you will be able to make awesome Themes.. because the WHOLE visual Look on our devices is based on IMAGES also the Manila Files are Images... but not all ofcourse..
If you want to edit MANILA files.. you can download CFC GUI from XDA with this powerfull tool you can Extract the image from the Manila file.. you can edit the image how you like it.. and again with this tool you can make it again to be MANILA file from png..
REMEMBER one of the most importmantly things in all graphic files are the SIZE and location.. so if you have the default images will be easy for you to know what you are doing...
Thats all i try to explain you short ... hope to understand me a bit
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Thanks so much your answer was perfect for me to get started, I will be back with my theme later, ok in while. LOL.
So I plan on doing a whole theme for Gtrabs 6.5 pure rom for the Xperia.
Where can I get the manila file for this rom?
sorry for the silly question.
tsalta said:
REMEMBER one of the most importmantly things in all graphic files are the SIZE and location.. so if you have the default images will be easy for you to know what you are doing...
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Is there just one file with all the images in it? like a deafult windows 6.5 theme?
Is there a place here to get the file/files?
Nope i will give you example what the size mean.. so some parts like i told you are only PNG image files for example the task bar and softkey bar in WM 6.5 are the same size in my case im using Blackstone WVGA device so 480x52 are the size of this PNGs for WVGA devices this mean i can put there whatever image i want i just need to make it this size of course.
Now you wonder OK but how the theme will know witch Images to use...
The TSK file when you open it with WinCe you will see is like a regs... and there you can associate for example you wrote in the TSK that for topbar to be used hackitstopbar.png then the image you do for the top bar must to be named with the same name ofcourse hackit and all is done.. when you copy this PNG to your windows and you choice the theme you want.. the theme will use this image that you want.
the TSK theme appear in Settings/Today in the theme list so you can create a TSK file named XDATheme.tsk this mean when you go to Settings/today there you will have a XDAtheme
Also is the same for everything in the TSK file you wrote everything you want.. to change and what kind of Wallpaper to be used i mean the names of this files.. they can have whatever name you want just need to be in png and the corect size.
About the Xperia i don`t know where you can get the files.. in the Xpira subforum you can ask someone to extract from the ROM the files you need and later you can see them with CFC GUI and edit them.
Also you can use Resco Explorer and to Extract the File from your ROM right now... the only one problem is that right now you don`t know witch fils you need.. then you need to read for example the file 21323c2.manila is responsible for the home screen CLOCK.. and etc etc when you know this info with files you need.. just find them with resco and copy to your SD card and later to your desktop now you will have files from where to start.
Its not importmantly do the Files are from Stock ROM or Cooked most importmantly is the Manila to be the same.
the Easy way to find them out is... download some theme that you like and that work on your device... for example the theme to include the clocks.. the bars whatever you need.. then when you sure this Theme work for you this mean your files are the same.. just download some costum theme Extract the Files and when you open them with CFC GUI you will see all images..you also can extract from this images a PNGs.. and this is the way you can mod them .. open the PNGs and make whatever changes you need and like... and when you are ready just replace them they to be manila again like i say you can do all that with CFC GUI
If i use Xperia i will tell you witch files you need but i use Blackstone... now in my case i use 2.1 Sense and i know almost every file i need to know so when i want to chnage something i just know witsh file simple to edit and all is done...
Its not One file.. with all images in it they are many files.. one for the clock itself another one for the backround of the clock another one for the clock numbers and etc etc etc
Simple example like i say if now i make a Theme WVGA with Sense 2.1 the theme will work in Touch HD, Rhodium, Topaz and etc etc all devices with the same UI if the theme is with 2.5 sense will work also in Leo.
The other trick i can tell you is this: go to Settings/Today there in the Themes you will have some with sure maybe the default one.. for example lets call it DefaultExpiria ok then in this case with sure you will have a file called DefaultXperia.tsk in your windows directory.. just go with Resco there and search for DefaultXperia.tsk file then copy and paste to your SD after this download to your desktop PC and when you open this TSK file with WinCe you will see almost everything all details this theme what kind of files use.. and how they are named...for example if the top bars are named Xdatopbar.png now you know the name just go again with Resco find that file and extract it.. when you open the png file on your desktop you will see exactly the size of this Image and now you know what file you need to do.. lol also if you don`t want to create a brand new TSK file..you can use the default one that is already in the ROM.. just make one png with the same size and rename it to have the same name like the default one Xdatopbar in this example ater you copy this file to windows.. your Top Bar will be with the image you want..
This is the easyest way to understand about your files.. the bad news are that the default themes are very simple i mean they can change some bars.. some wallpaper some other litle stuff but now Clock etc and this mean that when you open the default tsk you will be not able to see the clock files or all other you need.
But this is good begining to know how big must to be your bars.. and etc
Hi Tsalta. I have been following your examples above to try to create a new slider for my phone. I have all the file names correctly and resized everything to 128x128 and 256x256. I make it a system file and cab it up but when i install it it never show up. You can see the slider but not with the new icons that I placed in it. Any idea off the top of your head?
Yes the reasons can be two 1st what device you are using? there already have a slider creator so you can do whatever icons you want whit this creator no need to make all hand made also when you create the cab.. all fills must to be installed on %Windows% how to do that? just when the cab is open in WinCE double click and choice "Windows" then apply... do this for all files.. after you done then save the cab and install it in main memory if the filles are with corect names and they are installed on the WINDOWS directory will work for sure... at least if you do something wrong like diferent size icons or etc you will see this after the installation.. the reason WHY you can`t see the icons is 1st Diferent File Names.. not the filles you need or the Second can be if they are not installed in WINDOWS, give me the cab you did and i will tell you more
Hey Tsalta, i did point the file locations to the windows directory. I think that I made the right image size but could be wrong. I am using TP2 with Medium Hills rom flashed on it. I have attached two files for you. One has the cab file and the other is the images that I used. Thanks for your help on this.
Rizer said:
Hey Tsalta, i did point the file locations to the windows directory. I think that I made the right image size but could be wrong. I am using TP2 with Medium Hills rom flashed on it. I have attached two files for you. One has the cab file and the other is the images that I used. Thanks for your help on this.
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Men give me the LINK for that ROM because like i say im Blackstone user and i dont have from where to know what is this Medium Hills ROM when i ask about the ROM i ask about the BUILD and the MANILA version of the ROM u are using i don`t care about the Name of the ROM i want to see the ROM details to know what im doing.
Thanks.
I need to KNOW Witch BUILD of the ROM exactly because there have diferent Builds...
NOW I no wonder why Nothing Heppand.. Your Images are totaly Diferent the Size and Location like i say is the Most importmantly In Manila when you want to create a Theme your image files are totaly DIferent you never will have this Icons if you do them like that here i made just example to understand clear what mean Exactly the same SIZE and LOCATION
The Original file is the 1st One so the Whole file is 128x128 But see that the Calendar image is not on the Whole Image and is Smaller than 128 x128 the Second is the Example i did.. now you can see that the Whole PNG image is again 128x128 but the Custum Icon is on the same Place where was the Original Calendar Icon.. This is how must to be for everything not only for the Slider for the Clock for everything this is MOST Importmantly because if the Image is not on the same POSITION this just will not work. The Last file is your Image file that you send me.. so do u see any diference betwen them? your File is just a PNG image 128x128 and the Icon is in the full image is not Located on this specific Place that need to be also your Icon is 2 times bigger than the default one. If you do all the Icons like im telling you the Slider will work.
Hi there ... my question is for the people who have a clue in editing images .... tried searching here, also in google, but can`t find the answer I`m looking for.
Everyone that has tried to edit a manila file with a .png or .bmp inside has seen that some pictures have PINK background (boarders) that look transparent when installed on the phone. I will attach a picture as example of course ...
So when I try to edit such image using a photo software (for example Photoshop) and save the image after a change or two, I get that PINK to show in my image on the phone .... when it`s not edited the background is still PINK but it never shows up .... so this PINK color is some kind of transparent background that works in a different way than the normal transparent layer that I add to pictures in order to be transparent ....
The perfect example ... I install a SKIN for Resco Explorer ... the skin has a .skn file and 3 png files that are the icons that are used inside the software. All 3 files are with PINK boarders, so when I install them they show completely transparent on the phone ... when I edit them and remove the PINK at all from the image and make that same PINK transparent, the icons are not transparent any more but with WHITE background .... That happens ONLY ON these pictures that have that PINK background by default. If I take a normal image that has no PINK boarders and make it transparent it shows also transparent in my phone. The second try with the png files with the icons for Resco is by editing the file without removing the PINK background ... let`s say I change an icon and then when I save the image and put it in my phone ... I can see the pink behind the edited icon .... when I try to copy just the pink and make it a layer it shows PINK on my phone ....
So in less words ... is there a way to make my own PINK background to look transparent, like in the original files, and is there some kind of tutorial on how to do that .... cause it`s really different when you try to edit an image with that kind of background and a normal transparent background ... it just shows up differently in phone !
Hope people that have worked with photoshop know what I`m talking about.
Thanks for your time reading this whole thing and really hope that someone could help me ... thanks in advanced !
P.S. Uploading 2 images ... 1 is from the phcanImages.dll that has all Images from the Dialer screen , and the other is a png file with icons for resco explorer. Both have that PINK background and both show up differently when that pink is replaced with a normal transparent layer !
Well, a bmp picture won´t give you transparency options.
Attached, see your example as a png picture.
Don´t know about your settings in Photoshop...
And how did u manage to make it look like that .... and if I save that file as .png will I get the PINK background again ?
Ok ... so I tried to save the bmp as png ... the pink background was still there when I saved it as png .... I tried to make it transparent but I don`t know how , cause that is neither Raster or Layer ... it`s background and I cant get it transparent .... I tried another thing ... I made a transparent background ... added a layer and draw custom lines.. then saved the image as .bmp .... I got an image with white background instead of transparent .... how can I get that PINK background that the phone recognizes as transparent and save it as BMP file ???
Ok ... let me put it that way ... someone can really help if he can .... how to make a transparent background in a BMP file ?
c0rp1 said:
Ok ... let me put it that way ... someone can really help if he can .... how to make a transparent background in a BMP file ?
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This is not possible so far i know!
If you download the attached file ... you`ll see that there is a PINK background that doesn`t show in the phone ... so phone recognizes it as transparent .... I`m asking how can I do such background on a BMP file ......
Anybody
I actually noticed this while messing around with a dialer, it seemed that the pink areas were indeed transparant on the phone. I was able to copy the pink colour to make The answer/ignore slider transparent if i wanted to. No idea if you can create a new image and have tranceparency tho.
try to save it as gif on the PhotoShop and then try to change its extension to bmp, it may work that way. cheers
I`m sure that here are people that have edited tons of bmp files .... it`s absolutely impossible no one to know how can I make transparent parts on a bmp file .... renaming gif to bmp didn`t work !!!!!!
rawrscary said:
I actually noticed this while messing around with a dialer, it seemed that the pink areas were indeed transparant on the phone. I was able to copy the pink colour to make The answer/ignore slider transparent if i wanted to. No idea if you can create a new image and have tranceparency tho.
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When I copy and paste the pink area I get pink also at the image in my phone .... that is the question ... how can I make such pink area in order the pink area to be shown as transparent on my phone .....
gjizaqin said:
try to save it as gif on the PhotoShop and then try to change its extension to bmp, it may work that way. cheers
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OMG, you can never do this!, contents on file is the same, you are ONLY changing the file extension. If you, for example, create a .wav file and then change it to .mp3 it doesn't convert to an MP3 file, it's only a WAV file with a xxxx.mp3 name, so, as content isn't mp3, you can't read it in a mp3-only player.
Now, with that in mind, an BMP file format (And JPG's by the way) don't have any way to establish transparency or semi-transparency (like alpha in PNG's format.). So many programs needing transparent pixels on BMP files have used along many years a especific RGB color (also called Mask color) that isn't used often in pictures, like a bright pink or a bright green, (pink being the most used). This way, a program reading this file detect pixels with this EXACT color and do their magic ignoring those pixels making them transparents.
This pink color is R:255, G:0, B:255 or #ff00ff in hex.
Green in turn is R:0, G:255, B:0 or #00ff00 in hex.
NOTE: NEVER use JPG format when working with this type of masking, as JPG compression adds artifacts and modifies colors slightly. You must use EXACTLY this color code for masking BMP files (you can't use for example R:254, G:0, B:255).
also dont know, sorry
+1 on post 12.
I did not know the exact color of pink (hex code) but when I worked with xdashutdown skins, the PNG's have pink background so I simply used the color picker and I have perfect transparencies every time. At least now I know the hex code for this pink. Thanks!
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OMG, you can never do this!, contents on file is the same, you are ONLY changing the file extension. If you, for example, create a .wav file and then change it to .mp3 it doesn't convert to an MP3 file, it's only a WAV file with a xxxx.mp3 name, so, as content isn't mp3, you can't read it in a mp3-only player.
Now, with that in mind, an BMP file format (And JPG's by the way) don't have any way to establish transparency or semi-transparency (like alpha in PNG's format.). So many programs needing transparent pixels on BMP files have used along many years a especific RGB color (also called Mask color) that isn't used often in pictures, like a bright pink or a bright green, (pink being the most used). This way, a program reading this file detect pixels with this EXACT color and do their magic ignoring those pixels making them transparents.
This pink color is R:255, G:0, B:255 or #ff00ff in hex.
Green in turn is R:0, G:255, B:0 or #00ff00 in hex.
NOTE: NEVER use JPG format when working with this type of masking, as JPG compression adds artifacts and modifies colors slightly. You must use EXACTLY this color code for masking BMP files (you can't use for example R:254, G:0, B:255).
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Thanks for your responce .... Tried everything I could , but it didn`t work out as I expected ... it still does show PINK on my phone ... don`t know why .... I use photoshop and the BMP I put in the .dll I`m trying to modify has the same hex color : 255 ; 0 ; 255 ... but still shows as pink.
Can you please try to modify the following and see if there is not a problem with the BMP itself. I`m puting the original image from the .dll and the way I would like to look (the Pink that I add must be transparent) as another image.
P.S.
Tried also to save the bmp as 16bit , 24bit and 32 bit BMP in Photoshop ... cause I read somewhere that the BMP must not be in 24bit format .... when I saved it as 16bit the PINK was saved as 248 ; 0 ; 248 .... then I dofied it again .
So I tried everything in every tutorial without luck
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Thanks for your responce .... Tried everything I could , but it didn`t work out as I expected ... it still does show PINK on my phone ... don`t know why .... I use photoshop and the BMP I put in the .dll I`m trying to modify has the same hex color : 255 ; 0 ; 255 ... but still shows as pink.
Can you please try to modify the following and see if there is not a problem with the BMP itself. I`m puting the original image from the .dll and the way I would like to look (the Pink that I add must be transparent) as another image.
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Ok I'll look
Update: Your pink color is ok, I think it must be the program (manila?) is not programmed to search transparency in that part of the image. If so, there is nothing you can do as far as I know, as you don't have the source code.
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Ok I'll look
Update: Your pink color is ok, I think it must be the program (manila?) is not programmed to search transparency in that part of the image. If so, there is nothing you can do as far as I know, as you don't have the source code.
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Cant be manila .... I`m editing phcanImages.dll ... it`s the file that has all images from the Dialer ... as I saw there were people that modified some images from the same .dll, I don`t think it`s possible some program to recognize just part of the .dll`s images color, not all the images.
So maybe I`m doing something wrong.
I really tried everything possible with the "magic color"... I know about it for a week now, it`s not new information ... so I tried really everything, read many tutorials, but it didn`t help.
Btw ... are you good at editing dll files with images ?
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Cant be manila .... I`m editing phcanImages.dll ... it`s the file that has all images from the Dialer ... as I saw there were people that modified some images from the same .dll, I don`t think it`s possible some program to recognize just part of the .dll`s images color, not all the images.
So maybe I`m doing something wrong.
I really tried everything possible with the "magic color"... I know about it for a week now, it`s not new information ... so I tried really everything, read many tutorials, but it didn`t help.
Btw ... are you good at editing dll files with images ?
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The only dll's i've edited was in Windows, with Resource Hacker. If you are using this, maybe I can help. I think you where editing manila, but my past response (post 16) remains the same. What program are you using to edit the dll?
Same .... resource hacker ... and yes ... phcanImages.dll is in /Windows folder .... I don`t think this has something to do with signing or unsigning also , cause I tried with both signed and manulay copied unsigned file and the result was same !!!
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Same .... resource hacker ... and yes ... phcanImages.dll is in /Windows folder .... I don`t think this has something to do with signing or unsigning also , cause I tried with both signed and manulay copied unsigned file and the result was same !!!
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I'm viewing phcanImages.dll, what is the resource number you are editing, cause it seems my phone has a different dll and I can't find a similar image to the one you posted. Can you post the original/unmodified dll you have?
ok I have made my own selection icon but dont know how to get it in there, whats the name of the manila file I need to replace ?
Its a .png now do I leave it that way or does it have to become a .cab file ?
How do I open up other cabs to see how they are structured ?
I have qikcab but that just makes them, how do I analyse others ?
D.
Maybe you should have a look into this thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689230