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Cooked ROMS vs WM6.1 Announced 4/1/08

In general do WM 6.1 cooked ROMs on this site contain all of the features that the official version announced today touts (i.e. browser enhancements, threaded SMS, et al)?
I have searched and seen what the variants include, but I don't see how they stack up the official feature set.
Also, I appreciate the effort of the real experts at XDA on behalf of simple enthusiasts like myself. That contrast is why I can't stand using my company issued BBerry.

Browser enhancement are for next release (probably 7 not 6.1?)
If one reads the announce carefully, announced browser enhancements are for next release (not 6.1!), they don't have much to announce about 6.1 which seems to be a "really minor" release...and so they are trying to hide that by pre-announcing the real big thing for the beginning of 2009.

All that stuff is in the cooked Wm6.1 roms. I could've sworn that PIE was supposed to zoom in 6.1 but it doesn't.

hidavi said:
All that stuff is in the cooked Wm6.1 roms. I could've sworn that PIE was supposed to zoom in 6.1 but it doesn't.
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it does you have to hold the stylus on screen for the option

hidavi said:
All that stuff is in the cooked Wm6.1 roms. I could've sworn that PIE was supposed to zoom in 6.1 but it doesn't.
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Yes, it actually does...but is totally useless. not really zoom...just zoom out and zoom in
Start IE, goto Menu, click Zoom out...Not really to usefull

I did not see support for Silverlightin cooked rom
Some says that you find all that was announced today in cooked ROMS, which ROM does support Flash and Silverlight in PIE ?

hasta_la_vista said:
Some says that you find all that was announced today in cooked ROMS, which ROM does support Flash and Silverlight in PIE ?
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from what they said, at least third quarter or end of this year. sastified?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/6-1/default.mspx
Try here for official site, not just press release. It's a lot nicer for the smartphone users than for us.

GSLEON3 said:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/6-1/default.mspx
Try here for official site, not just press release. It's a lot nicer for the smartphone users than for us.
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Hey, if you look at the guy in the banner of the MS official site, he is using a Palm Treo ... not quite sure about 6.1 update for Treo users !

List of AT&T phones that can be updated with WM6.1;
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobiledevicemanager/devices.mspx

Strange Device running Windows Mobile 6.5

Check this out - it's called the Exeda??? (Never heard of them - apparently they specialise in embedded systems.
Also 6.5 looks very very very nice... Stunning even... and very different...
Very different to the builds I've seen floating around - (cough... blueangel... cough...)
http://www.exedamobile.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=7

sigh, I had really wanted them to put the task bar at the bottom or completely away with it and leave a 75% opaque small strip up there.
sure hope they improve email rendering.
but to heck with all the pictures I want to see it running. I want to have a good sense of what to expect.
but it looks ok so far.

I have seen these earlyer and the build they use with honeycomb interface and with the new CHome (Codename Titanium) is a lot newer than the leaked ones

"ugly device running on Windows Mobile 6.5" would've been a better title.
My question is how will 6.5 work with Touchflo 3D?

Finally, some better shots of WM 6.5. I hope they do more than just change the today screen though.

Gundem said:
"ugly device running on Windows Mobile 6.5" would've been a better title.
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LOL
Agree mate!

Gundem said:
"ugly device running on Windows Mobile 6.5" would've been a better title.
My question is how will 6.5 work with Touchflo 3D?
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YUP = that one's got me confused too...
HTC'll probably have to disable it - therefore negating all their initial efforts to aesthetically update the wm gui...
hmmmm - guess time will tell on this one...
Am looking forward to the HTC's Rhodium and Tungsten running this WM 6.5 though - although I'd love those 2 phones to run Android too...

yeh, they can dump that device!
but, I'm itching to flash a 6.5 beta anyday now!

galaxys said:
yeh, they can dump that device!
but, I'm itching to flash a 6.5 beta anyday now!
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YUP - Me too!
Anything other than base 6.1 whatever build on my TPro sounds good to me!
6.1 feels like it's been out for eons!

True & very boring, WM6.1 has been out now for almost 18 months!
Goes to show how slow MS really is!

6.5 is just a minor ugrade to 6.1 hardly worth the extra 0.4 from what I've heard.
Tomal already has it working on a Universal http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473096&page=3

Just seen the device i the original link - Ye Gods that's fugly!
One D-Pad for up and down and another for left-right? WTF?

Wm6.5 original ?

I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !

there's no WM6.5 original since 6.5 isn't released yet, plus there will neveer be 6.5 for Kaiser official.
The problems you have aren't connected to 6.5 but maybe old radio I guess.

all the rooms are beta versions of wm 6.5. offical final release will be october 2009 but we dont expect offical release for kaiser.

try flashing a different radio version

mirkomircea said:
I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !
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you should have emailed htc support instead of starting a new thread for this. please read rules about starting new threads.

Where do you live? Who is your service provider? Ah wait, it doesnt matter! Kaiser is too old for them to release an official version anyways...

I thought HTC said they will have an official 6.5 upgrade for any device 400Mhz and above. However, no providers will have an offical upgrade... But technically its the same, because you can just flash the roms found here... They are usually faster than original...

i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update

jjblaster3 said:
i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update
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HTC doesn't have to license a hot fix from M$. HTC is not about to spend their profits or R&D money licensing software for a phone they don't sell or even make anymore. No chance, no way. Besides, do you really think that Microsoft's 6.5 will be anything more than a waste of time or money ?
Will it run better than the 6.5' s we currently have in this forum ? Will it have more customization options ? Will it have more pre-installed apps ? Will it come with more support ?
No.....no....no.....and no ! So what's the point ?

In the US, AT&T does not see Tilt anymore! Not even refurbished ones...so if they dont sell it, then no updates...

denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.

OndraSter said:
denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.

OndraSter said:
denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules

denco7 said:
But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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LOL...yea exactly...
jjblaster3 said:
i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules
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Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...

ai6908 said:
Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...
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this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"

jjblaster3 said:
this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"
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Yup in theory it sounds wonderful, but I dont think it makes a difference in reality. I do have a touch pro 2, which is the same WM sluggish one!

I came back to STOCK wm 6.1 work perfect...IGO 8 and radio , but on this forum are many fancy people....Thanks them !

denco7 said:
But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
Microsoft needs to break free of allowing releases of their mobile OS to be dictated by the device OEMs. It's a terrible practice and one of the reasons their market share in the mobile device sector is shrinking.

Yogi76 said:
Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
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And if M$ only sold ONE phone " the Kaiser " in different variants I am sure they would release 6.5 for it.

WM 6.5 RTM's about two months ago and if you look at Josh koss thread he has a link in his sig that has the official 6.5 RTM release(21234) from MS. However there will be no RTM build for the Kaiser from HTC, but Josh's works fine. This 21234 build was the RTM build that is in the developer toolkit, and will be the build that all companies will use to create there 6.5 official releases.
As for the current 6.5 builds that everyone has those are the beta builds for 6.5.1 that will be released for the first capacitive screens, and be the "basic" WM6.5 that will ship on lower end phones not capable of running WM7.

how "android 2.0-friendly" are current HTC android phones?

Hello guys,
You 've made a great forum here, and i must admit you're all doing amazing work. I have a question that made me crawl out of my lurking cave.
I was thinking about buying a HTC Magic/Saphire phone. Maybe getting involved with some android development. Anyway, i was wondering how compatible the phones are with the upcoming android 2.0. I know multitouch will be support (and already is in Hero,) but does that mean that i will be able to upgrade to android 2.0 and enjoy multitouch in Magic? I know multitouch capabilities are already enabled through some roms.
Also, will i expierence slower speeds with coming versions of android? [i'm thinking the way a computer made with xp in mind, behaves when you install Vista on it].
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but i haven't found a clear answer yet

As far as MultiTouch is concerned...my understanding is that it will only work with capicitive touch screens. The Hero's screen is capacitive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I am aware the G1(Dream) and Magic have risistive screens.

Paul, thanks for your answer
That's what i thought at first, and i was gonna wait for hero to come out in Greece, but i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558344&highlight=multitouch
and this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4510792&postcount=26
so it seems it works with custom roms. Any ideas about the speed factor and/or the compatibility of the phones with future android versions?

TheBrit said:
As far as MultiTouch is concerned...my understanding is that it will only work with capicitive touch screens. The Hero's screen is capacitive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I am aware the G1(Dream) and Magic have risistive screens.
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Both the G1(Dream) and magic have capacitive screens. All Android phones on the market at this time have capacitive screens

Android 2.0 isn't being developed yet. 1.6 is though (codenamed donut.)
Cyanogen, over in the dream forum has already ported and IMPROVED 1.6 into the G1's.

ivanmmj2 said:
Android 2.0 isn't being developed yet. 1.6 is though (codenamed donut.)
Cyanogen, over in the dream forum has already ported and IMPROVED 1.6 into the G1's.
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That is not true either. 2.0 is rumored to be what is shipping on the upcoming Motorola Shules. The code name for 2.0 is eclair.

so, to get back to my original question, when Shules launches, will android 2.0 be portable to 1.6 phones like magic? i read that it won't be portable to G1 [or, to be more accurate, that they wont release an official update for it]

cynop said:
so, to get back to my original question, when Shules launches, will android 2.0 be portable to 1.6 phones like magic? i read that it won't be portable to G1 [or, to be more accurate, that they wont release an official update for it]
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well the issue for the G1 was not have enough memory to "store" the update, but one of the lead developers said that the quote was taken in the wrong way. As far as I know, if you flash it yourself it should fit and work fine in the future. It is just that having the OS on there and then trying to do an Over the Air update would cause issues due to lack of space.

Alittle off the topic but, here's a spec chart of all the android phones on the market. http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/10/android-battle-cliq-edition/

Is this the "next" Sense Modification?

Hi,
i've seen this Pic at Modaco and i wonder what is to see on the Homescreen
I think it is Manila 2.5 but it shows CallHistory and Calendar like Manila 2.1
Is it possible to port it in a actual CFW with Manila 2.5?

This could also be manila 2.1 .. The newest versions of manila 2.1 have the same slider icons as 2.5 and aslo weather on the hometab ... having seen the latest 2.5 version that have come out lately, I am almost sure the sense shown in the pictures is sense 2.1

Try CookyMonster's mod with new Sense 2.5. Then you can change some reg. settings to have Call history and so on with sense 2.5

this is actually the new HTC HD mini, revealed at MWC in Barcelona. Sense interface looks like 2.1 but with a twist, like footprints and twitter, just like 2.5 has. Also, interestingly, it has officially 6.5.3 on it. maybe our beloved chefs will get something good out of this baby.
L.E. according to slashgear.com, the new Sense on HD mini is specially tailored by consumers requests, so it might be the best of 2.1 and 2.5 together. the hardware is lower specced then HD2 and closer to Topaz, but it has a capacitive touchscreen. therefore it might get a WP7 update

Ahh...OK.
It's a Symbiose of 2.1 and 2.5...
We will see when its released in some Months

Kreuzfelder said:
Hi,
i've seen this Pic at Modaco and i wonder what is to see on the Homescreen
I think it is Manila 2.5 but it shows CallHistory and Calendar like Manila 2.1
Is it possible to port it in a actual CFW with Manila 2.5?
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That's the HD mini (Proton)

crisagatie said:
this is actually the new HTC HD mini, revealed at MWC in Barcelona. Sense interface looks like 2.1 but with a twist, like footprints and twitter, just like 2.5 has. Also, interestingly, it has officially 6.5.3 on it. maybe our beloved chefs will get something good out of this baby.
L.E. according to slashgear.com, the new Sense on HD mini is specially tailored by consumers requests, so it might be the best of 2.1 and 2.5 together. the hardware is lower specced then HD2 and closer to Topaz, but it has a capacitive touchscreen. therefore it might get a WP7 update
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I am 100% sure it won't get WM7 update, for one good reason it requires 1ghz and it has only 600mhz...

Dking7 said:
I am 100% sure it won't get WM7 update, for one good reason it requires 1ghz and it has only 600mhz...
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minimum cpu specs for WM7 is 800mhz not 1ghz

AGAIN! There will be NO upgrade of WM7 for the current devices. Maybe only for the HD2 but even that's still a rumor. Back to reality!

hendrixus said:
AGAIN! There will be NO upgrade of WM7 for the current devices. Maybe only for the HD2 but even that's still a rumor. Back to reality!
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From what I've seen, they can keep it.
I have never cared for any WM UI and it looks like they made it worse than Titanium.
Problem is, you can't unselect it to run anything else.
It would be running in conjunction with any other interface which could be an issue for system resources.

Bruce Inman said:
Problem is, you can't unselect it to run anything else.
It would be running in conjunction with any other interface which could be an issue for system resources.
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Well. I don't want it. I'll stay on WM 6.5.x

hendrixus said:
Well. I don't want it. I'll stay on WM 6.5.x
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Likewise!

Bruce Inman said:
From what I've seen, they can keep it.
I have never cared for any WM UI and it looks like they made it worse than Titanium.
Problem is, you can't unselect it to run anything else.
It would be running in conjunction with any other interface which could be an issue for system resources.
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I have an hTC Pure, how can I install manila ( sense ) 2.5 ? to do the upgrade cause im having problems to do it ,thx

Batisax1 said:
I have an hTC Pure, how can I install manila ( sense ) 2.5 ? to do the upgrade cause im having problems to do it ,thx
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You will first need HSPL to unlock your device then you have to find a 2.5 manila ROM to flash.
Flashing instructions are in the ROM threads