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Windows Mobile 7

http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Interesting stuff, what I like the most is that it says "Most likely" WM7 can be used on older devices because all the changes like screen rotation with device will use the cam instead of hardware like accelerometers and stuff... wonder how long till my wizard is sporting WM7...

they gonna turn ppc's into sm/iphone/touch ****?
WM7 can be used on older devices
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...taking 40 of 47 mb mem free.....

does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?

WM7 on an 2-year old wizard?
Realistically, the chances of WM7 running on a standard Wizard are somewhere between slim and none. I can offer two strong reasons: memory and speed. As someone noted earlier there are only 49 MB of program memory. Right now mine has only 19 free. If Microsoft follows its normal OS expansion rate, 49 MB won't be nearly enough.
As for speed - we,, we all know how fast the Wizards's chip is and - even with overclocking - it's slow. And in a year it will seem slower still.
So.. unless someone is going to begin to sell an aftermarket Wizard chipset on a higher capacity and faster piece of silicon - which I find unlikely and uneconomical -WM7 just isn't in the cards for old Wizards.
Having said that, I would love to be wrong.

You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.

Well too bad couldn't have said the same for my MPX300 it was stuck with WM2003se............ but WM6 seem a bit cool tho.............

You have the MPX300?? Interested in selling?

it's not 100% tho ............ water got on the screen so i can't get past the screen alignment when i reset the phone

ND4SPD said:
You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
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True, pity mine sucks as it has a habit of spontaneously discharging the battery so I can't turn it on, thus I switched to the Wizard and now my iPhone.
EDIT: Looking at that Windows Mobile 7 article, I'm severely tempted back to Windows Mobile if that takes off!

I don't think wizard can handle wm7 (full OS) but i'm sure rom chef's will find tha way to adapt some programs that will be used with it... maybe some hacking will allow software to be run in an acceptable level... not the OS but the feeling of it...

I heard that wm7 will be released on 2009. Is it true? I hope they will release it in this year.

b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?

now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon

i bet they release this year cause of the iphone even though its overated people are buying it instead of windows mobile phones. Looks like it will be out next september i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise. The HTC touch should get an update to WM7 as the touchflo isnt that great tbh.

musungus77 said:
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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watting 4 your upload.
many thanks in advance!

" i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise."
sadly at times picturs dont say 1000 words
by that logic the game dukenukeem forever would
had been released 10years agoe

musungus77 said:
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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waiting also

I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze

cortez said:
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
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Me too. when ms had wizard on microsoft surface trailers, they should test wm7 on it

b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have real WM 6.1 WWE yet?

How come my Windows Moivle 6.1 does not look like this?

I dont get it. I upgraded my treo 750 to windows moible 6.1 or at least that is what it says on the screen. But it looks nothing like this. My windows mobile 6.1 looks like windows 5.0.
Where did i go wrong? It looks nothing like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cA1xTL1qu8&feature=related

That version of Windows Mobile 6.1 is the standard version for Smartphones (what Microsoft calls non-touchscreen phones). You have a touch screen phone and thus it gets the professional version of 6.1. Unfortunately the professional version of 6.1 didn't get many UI changes. 6.5 however did. Hope this helps.

Tecknikal said:
That version of Windows Mobile 6.1 is the standard version for Smartphones (what Microsoft calls non-touchscreen phones). You have a touch screen phone and thus it gets the professional version of 6.1. Unfortunately the professional version of 6.1 didn't get many UI changes. 6.5 however did. Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
That makes sense. Kind of stupid I think might as well install the non touch screen version. It looks better.
The 6.5 is not the official wm. I heard its not stable..
I'm not that advance in this installing thing. I dont want to mess it up.
Thanks again for the helpful information.

this looks good. i dont get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZF_xBdpRs&feature=related

That version of 6.1 looks great
Why isn't there a ROM cooked for TREO? Does the ROM for the Wing work on the TREO?

simunlocktreo said:
this looks good. i dont get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZF_xBdpRs&feature=related
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there are a lot of aplications that change the looks of your windows mobile 6.1, those are what most people call skins, just like the one's you use in windows xp or vista...
the windows mobile cooked roms are normaly reduced to it's basics so they run faster and stay more stable, and of course give you more available memory.
if you realy want your treo to look all "fancy" you can google for it, or look deeply in this forum, you will find a lot of cool skins and aplications for your pda.
hope that this info is usefull to you and if you need any help with anything please send a PM.

Here you can download WM 6.1 for Treo: http://www.mediafire.com/?4gxsdxh1tmm

navenedrob said:
Here you can download WM 6.1 for Treo: http://www.mediafire.com/?4gxsdxh1tmm
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But what version is that?
oficial or cooked?

superhiperclim said:
But what version is that?
oficial or cooked?
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Cooked, there was never an official WM 6.1 for the Treo.

navenedrob said:
Cooked, there was never an official WM 6.1 for the Treo.
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my mistake ;p

Wm6.5 original ?

I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !

there's no WM6.5 original since 6.5 isn't released yet, plus there will neveer be 6.5 for Kaiser official.
The problems you have aren't connected to 6.5 but maybe old radio I guess.

all the rooms are beta versions of wm 6.5. offical final release will be october 2009 but we dont expect offical release for kaiser.

try flashing a different radio version

mirkomircea said:
I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !
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you should have emailed htc support instead of starting a new thread for this. please read rules about starting new threads.

Where do you live? Who is your service provider? Ah wait, it doesnt matter! Kaiser is too old for them to release an official version anyways...

I thought HTC said they will have an official 6.5 upgrade for any device 400Mhz and above. However, no providers will have an offical upgrade... But technically its the same, because you can just flash the roms found here... They are usually faster than original...

i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update

jjblaster3 said:
i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update
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HTC doesn't have to license a hot fix from M$. HTC is not about to spend their profits or R&D money licensing software for a phone they don't sell or even make anymore. No chance, no way. Besides, do you really think that Microsoft's 6.5 will be anything more than a waste of time or money ?
Will it run better than the 6.5' s we currently have in this forum ? Will it have more customization options ? Will it have more pre-installed apps ? Will it come with more support ?
No.....no....no.....and no ! So what's the point ?

In the US, AT&T does not see Tilt anymore! Not even refurbished ones...so if they dont sell it, then no updates...

denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.

OndraSter said:
denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.

OndraSter said:
denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules

denco7 said:
But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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LOL...yea exactly...
jjblaster3 said:
i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules
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Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...

ai6908 said:
Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...
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this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"

jjblaster3 said:
this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"
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Yup in theory it sounds wonderful, but I dont think it makes a difference in reality. I do have a touch pro 2, which is the same WM sluggish one!

I came back to STOCK wm 6.1 work perfect...IGO 8 and radio , but on this forum are many fancy people....Thanks them !

denco7 said:
But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
Microsoft needs to break free of allowing releases of their mobile OS to be dictated by the device OEMs. It's a terrible practice and one of the reasons their market share in the mobile device sector is shrinking.

Yogi76 said:
Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
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And if M$ only sold ONE phone " the Kaiser " in different variants I am sure they would release 6.5 for it.

WM 6.5 RTM's about two months ago and if you look at Josh koss thread he has a link in his sig that has the official 6.5 RTM release(21234) from MS. However there will be no RTM build for the Kaiser from HTC, but Josh's works fine. This 21234 build was the RTM build that is in the developer toolkit, and will be the build that all companies will use to create there 6.5 official releases.
As for the current 6.5 builds that everyone has those are the beta builds for 6.5.1 that will be released for the first capacitive screens, and be the "basic" WM6.5 that will ship on lower end phones not capable of running WM7.

Is this the "next" Sense Modification?

Hi,
i've seen this Pic at Modaco and i wonder what is to see on the Homescreen
I think it is Manila 2.5 but it shows CallHistory and Calendar like Manila 2.1
Is it possible to port it in a actual CFW with Manila 2.5?

This could also be manila 2.1 .. The newest versions of manila 2.1 have the same slider icons as 2.5 and aslo weather on the hometab ... having seen the latest 2.5 version that have come out lately, I am almost sure the sense shown in the pictures is sense 2.1

Try CookyMonster's mod with new Sense 2.5. Then you can change some reg. settings to have Call history and so on with sense 2.5

this is actually the new HTC HD mini, revealed at MWC in Barcelona. Sense interface looks like 2.1 but with a twist, like footprints and twitter, just like 2.5 has. Also, interestingly, it has officially 6.5.3 on it. maybe our beloved chefs will get something good out of this baby.
L.E. according to slashgear.com, the new Sense on HD mini is specially tailored by consumers requests, so it might be the best of 2.1 and 2.5 together. the hardware is lower specced then HD2 and closer to Topaz, but it has a capacitive touchscreen. therefore it might get a WP7 update

Ahh...OK.
It's a Symbiose of 2.1 and 2.5...
We will see when its released in some Months

Kreuzfelder said:
Hi,
i've seen this Pic at Modaco and i wonder what is to see on the Homescreen
I think it is Manila 2.5 but it shows CallHistory and Calendar like Manila 2.1
Is it possible to port it in a actual CFW with Manila 2.5?
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That's the HD mini (Proton)

crisagatie said:
this is actually the new HTC HD mini, revealed at MWC in Barcelona. Sense interface looks like 2.1 but with a twist, like footprints and twitter, just like 2.5 has. Also, interestingly, it has officially 6.5.3 on it. maybe our beloved chefs will get something good out of this baby.
L.E. according to slashgear.com, the new Sense on HD mini is specially tailored by consumers requests, so it might be the best of 2.1 and 2.5 together. the hardware is lower specced then HD2 and closer to Topaz, but it has a capacitive touchscreen. therefore it might get a WP7 update
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I am 100% sure it won't get WM7 update, for one good reason it requires 1ghz and it has only 600mhz...

Dking7 said:
I am 100% sure it won't get WM7 update, for one good reason it requires 1ghz and it has only 600mhz...
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minimum cpu specs for WM7 is 800mhz not 1ghz

AGAIN! There will be NO upgrade of WM7 for the current devices. Maybe only for the HD2 but even that's still a rumor. Back to reality!

hendrixus said:
AGAIN! There will be NO upgrade of WM7 for the current devices. Maybe only for the HD2 but even that's still a rumor. Back to reality!
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From what I've seen, they can keep it.
I have never cared for any WM UI and it looks like they made it worse than Titanium.
Problem is, you can't unselect it to run anything else.
It would be running in conjunction with any other interface which could be an issue for system resources.

Bruce Inman said:
Problem is, you can't unselect it to run anything else.
It would be running in conjunction with any other interface which could be an issue for system resources.
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Well. I don't want it. I'll stay on WM 6.5.x

hendrixus said:
Well. I don't want it. I'll stay on WM 6.5.x
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Likewise!

Bruce Inman said:
From what I've seen, they can keep it.
I have never cared for any WM UI and it looks like they made it worse than Titanium.
Problem is, you can't unselect it to run anything else.
It would be running in conjunction with any other interface which could be an issue for system resources.
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I have an hTC Pure, how can I install manila ( sense ) 2.5 ? to do the upgrade cause im having problems to do it ,thx

Batisax1 said:
I have an hTC Pure, how can I install manila ( sense ) 2.5 ? to do the upgrade cause im having problems to do it ,thx
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You will first need HSPL to unlock your device then you have to find a 2.5 manila ROM to flash.
Flashing instructions are in the ROM threads

Which future for HTC Universal?

All is on the title...
No more ROM in the future

I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?

thingonaspring said:
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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Yep, the Uni is unbeatable about the life, any vanilla ROM with one of the latest builds will be nice WM6.1/6.5

My way of keeping my Uni fun was SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it is just like getting a new user interface, so doesn't matter so much what ROM it is running, even WM5. The only thing I needed was 128Mb RAM. However, I have to say that having 128/256 on my LG KS20 felt amazingly roomy, wish my Uni had that much space.

enigma1nz said:
My way of keeping my Uni fun was SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it is just like getting a new user interface, so doesn't matter so much what ROM it is running, even WM5. The only thing I needed was 128Mb RAM. However, I have to say that having 128/256 on my LG KS20 felt amazingly roomy, wish my Uni had that much space.
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I agree completely. spb ms3.5 plus any lightweight stable rom will do the trick for 64MB uni pls take note however that spb ms is not for free (yu need a little resourcefulness though ).
of course, blessed are those with upgraded ram
thingonaspring said:
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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solution??? i guess we need to start cooking unless you will continue and start releasing new rom again
btw yur 21040 is one of the roms ive tested and found to be more responsive and compatible with spb ms 3 & 3.5. many thanks for sharing.. regards
phezthie

There are still a few Chefs alive in Uni section!
So Uni will never die, even if there is no mre new ROM´s we reached WM6.5 on a device with WM5, so we are actual.
And I´m sure someone will find the way to port the new look of WP7 in the future!
I have tested several HTC devices and have to agree, none of them can be compared, even if they are faster...not even my Rhodium (which is a great device)
UNIVERSAL will never die!!

OK, so a bit of a rom refresh would cheer people up. I'll package up a 21068/21051 rom in the next few days. This build has been running on my Uni for a few months now so I know it's stable, there's just some loose ends to tidy up. It'll also finally ditch tcpmp 0.81 in favour of the latest 0.72recomp3 which now matches 0.81 for playback speed and doesn't have the annoying screen rotation bug.
If you still love your uni, and you've not had it upgraded to 128mb yet - go and find a way to get it upgraded! It gives the phone a new lease of life - snappier, more versatile and it seems to improve battery usage. (I suspect the battery improvement is due to reduced CPU-load and Flash-reads when pagepooling is disabled)
Note that you can run a 64mb device without pagepooling, but RAM tends to fill up quite quickly, resulting in apps refusing to load or acting all crashy. That said, there are ways to improve memory management (auto-hibernate for one) that might make it more of an option.
@Enigma - 256MB would rock - particularly for those who like to dabble with linux/android. It's just a shame nobody makes 128mb chips in the right packaging. :-(

Great to know something new will come!!, hope for 64Mb too
Shame for me upgrade to 128mb it´s very hard to accomplish

Great news!
thingonaspring ,
greart news to hear!
I have been using Cotull Q3 WM 6.1 for ages.......nothing beats it. (IMHO)
And with 128 MB RAM it's "snappy".
A new ROM is always welcome.Waiting with appreciation.
Thanks.
Mods/Orb
Can we change the title of the thread?...it is rather depressing and misguiding.
And do you expect us to suggest any apps to include in the ROM or would it be a Vanilla one?

uni dead nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
mine has tomal V8.9, windows 6.1 and spb mobile shell (yes i was resourceful and got it.) and mine now runs like a charm and give my 64mb xda exec a new ui and fresh look.
we still need roms for our 64mb unis for all those like me that dont have ours upgraded.
carry on the good work cheff's we all really appreciate you keeping our unis alive.
long live the uni
btw i have the new nokia 5530, but my uni beats it hands done in everyway.

The rom is now uploaded here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643243

cheers thing will try it later. see wot its like with spb ms 3.5.3.
cheers mate

kalya said:
thingonaspring ,
Mods/Orb
Can we change the title of the thread?...it is rather depressing and misguiding.
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I´m completly agree about this, I think we should ask OP first
@teddybear3k, do you think you can consider this request please?
Also today Sun Dream released a new ROM, so Uni will be still alive!!!

OK title changed.

Here I can tell my IMATEJASJAR not dead, he is the top, the only disadvantage is the ram, but I already have a donor hand and will follow the operation and 128mb ram will be happy if you still make good ROMs for our UNI, maybe one day I learn to cook roms for my faithful friend