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Do you think there will be WM5 for the Magician?

So, what do you think?
(I hope this is not considered a rant)

We're actually just waiting on the Buzz/Raptor news. We'll all kno the answer soon enough I guess.

I agree, if the news is coming from Buzz, I have no doubt whether the ROM exists or not.

well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !

well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !

tjempeng said:
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
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Me too.

What will change with wm2005? There are tons of wm2003 applications for our devices to keep us satisfied for long long time. I am not saying that I am not interested in getting a working rom for magician, but if this doesn't happen in the right way (official upgrade) we will have many problems and no support at all. So apart from satisfying our curiosity what is our gain?
I must admit that I am rather curious mind, so I'll probably be one of the first to try to put the wm2005 rom in my magician, but I am not expecting much and I am sure after some day coping with the problems I and many others would like to switch back to the good old wm2003.
Anyway I wish good luck to Buzz and all the other guys invloved in this "adventurous" project.

If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.

kta said:
If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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I am not talking about an official version but for a leaked one. The official of course should be better and have more benefits! That's undoubtable!
And if you are wondering for the difference about win98 and XP, try installing and living with XP on a Pentium 166. Simply you can't because p166 was not designed to be able to handle winXP.

I own a computer shop and people where asking for Windows 98 on a Pentium 4 - 1.4GHz with 256 or 512MB RAM!
Regarding WM5, agreed, I'm only talking about a stable version (whether it's official or not). Mind you, the WM5 we're all waiting for IS MEANT to run on the Magician as it was specifically built for it. Otherwise it wouldn't work in the first place.
And according to Microsoft, the Magician meets the WM5 minimum requirements, mainly being an Xscale compatible CPU, 64MB RAM and 64MB ROM.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=726702
Check out the O2 XDA Atom...
1. The O2 XDA Atom will have the same processor (or type) as the HTC Magician.
2. The O2 XDA Atom will have Windows Mobile 5.0 (along with other nice things like a long-awaited FM tuner)
3. HTC could have made a Windows Mobile 5.0 build for the Magician and given it some more life, but new devices is the main reason they didn't. More profit here.
4. You guys will be all over this like a free porn DVD giveaway, and get this ROM ported over to the Magician in total defiance of HTC's abandonment stance.
5. Some of you will buy it anyway.
UPDATE: The Atom is not designed by HTC, so chances of ROM portability to the Magician just got a lot slimmer.

That Atom looks very very nice. I would almost be tempted to bankrupt myself if it weren't for the fact that the price tag is, praise the Lord, far too high for me to even consider it.

'praise the Lord' :?:

Kaiser WM 5 Possible?

Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.

axeman said:
Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
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:/
but what you are not looking at is the BUGGY RAM (ram leaks)
the ram depletes like crazy even though no processes are running
this problem does not exist with WM6
eg. in my previous device O2 executive (Universal)
running WM5 initial ram 31 mb
after 3 days 12-15 mb so i have to soft reset
same device running wm6 initial ram 28-29 mb
after 3 days 23-24 mb so no soft reset required
besides the WM5 interface looks ugly as s**t

axeman said:
Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
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WM6 in fact... is not a new software comparing to WM5, it's just a very good Service Pack. What does it mean? WM6 is much better and faster than WM5!!! You must be the only person in this community that want to go back!!!

Strange question indeed... it is pointless, and would only generate regressions on your device :?

I am happy to note that the old problem on TyTNs AKU 3.x WM5 with files vanishing from the microSD card is not solved in TyTN IIs WM6. I was playing MP3 files in PocketPlayer, then paused the player and wanted to resume a few hours later, only to discover that the directory was empty... Pulling out the microSD card and putting it back solved the problem and the files came back again.
This took away some of the nostalgia I was feeling for my old PDA.

axeman said:
Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
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If you said compare Windows mobile 2003 and say WM5, I might have agreed with you.
But WM6 has *always* run faster and more reliably than WM6 on all windows mobile device I've tried

Wizard user here (looking for upgrade)
I got to disagree out of my personal experience.
I ran WM6 on my slow 200mHz processor and it was remarkably slower than the WM5 i'm now running.
Memory leaks are true though, and I have to reset once a week because the damn thing ran out or ram ... I find this is a small price to pay for the speed i gain.

WM5 vs WM6
athanaso77 said:
WM6 in fact... is not a new software comparing to WM5, it's just a very good Service Pack. What does it mean? WM6 is much better and faster than WM5!!! You must be the only person in this community that want to go back!!!
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Maybe not the only one.
I personally think there are some things about WM6 that are not improvements, e.g. dialpad and inability to replace dialpad with a good big button keyboard. After all, this is still a phone, and good, reliable, easy to use dialpad is important to me.

Windows Mobile 7

http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Interesting stuff, what I like the most is that it says "Most likely" WM7 can be used on older devices because all the changes like screen rotation with device will use the cam instead of hardware like accelerometers and stuff... wonder how long till my wizard is sporting WM7...

they gonna turn ppc's into sm/iphone/touch ****?
WM7 can be used on older devices
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...taking 40 of 47 mb mem free.....

does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?

WM7 on an 2-year old wizard?
Realistically, the chances of WM7 running on a standard Wizard are somewhere between slim and none. I can offer two strong reasons: memory and speed. As someone noted earlier there are only 49 MB of program memory. Right now mine has only 19 free. If Microsoft follows its normal OS expansion rate, 49 MB won't be nearly enough.
As for speed - we,, we all know how fast the Wizards's chip is and - even with overclocking - it's slow. And in a year it will seem slower still.
So.. unless someone is going to begin to sell an aftermarket Wizard chipset on a higher capacity and faster piece of silicon - which I find unlikely and uneconomical -WM7 just isn't in the cards for old Wizards.
Having said that, I would love to be wrong.

You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.

Well too bad couldn't have said the same for my MPX300 it was stuck with WM2003se............ but WM6 seem a bit cool tho.............

You have the MPX300?? Interested in selling?

it's not 100% tho ............ water got on the screen so i can't get past the screen alignment when i reset the phone

ND4SPD said:
You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
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True, pity mine sucks as it has a habit of spontaneously discharging the battery so I can't turn it on, thus I switched to the Wizard and now my iPhone.
EDIT: Looking at that Windows Mobile 7 article, I'm severely tempted back to Windows Mobile if that takes off!

I don't think wizard can handle wm7 (full OS) but i'm sure rom chef's will find tha way to adapt some programs that will be used with it... maybe some hacking will allow software to be run in an acceptable level... not the OS but the feeling of it...

I heard that wm7 will be released on 2009. Is it true? I hope they will release it in this year.

b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?

now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon

i bet they release this year cause of the iphone even though its overated people are buying it instead of windows mobile phones. Looks like it will be out next september i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise. The HTC touch should get an update to WM7 as the touchflo isnt that great tbh.

musungus77 said:
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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watting 4 your upload.
many thanks in advance!

" i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise."
sadly at times picturs dont say 1000 words
by that logic the game dukenukeem forever would
had been released 10years agoe

musungus77 said:
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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waiting also

I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze

cortez said:
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
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Me too. when ms had wizard on microsoft surface trailers, they should test wm7 on it

b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have real WM 6.1 WWE yet?

WM5 vs. WM6 - Why still WM5?

I've noticed that lots of people still use WM5 and I'm curious as to why? Out of the box my Uni has been ridiculously slow on WM5, even if I don't install all the add-in cabs. After upgrading to practically any WM6 rom here the speeds are more in line with what we can expect out of any 500mhz CE device.
So: Why still WM5? What are the benefits to keeping with WM5? Are there any examples that you guys have?

Perhaps because WM5 leaves more free RAM then WM6

For this users WM5 is more stable, but i`m not so sure, WM6 is better solution in my opinion

I personally find the opposite that you have.
WM5 for me is significantly faster than WM6.
Having cooked both WM5 and WM6 roms I will freely admit that WM6 is certainly less restrictive to work with from a developer point of view.
Also on the universal WM6 does not have fully functional videocall and WIFI WPA-PSK can be a pain.
Psi

WM6 as of now is really fast and responsive and doesn't crash anymore if you get the right ROMs. But I remember myself switching back from the early WM6 ROMs to WM5 because even as an early adopter there are limits and those clearly were reached with those releases. They would crash at least 5 times a day and would *never* survive the night. Also the speed was beyond what I would call pleasant even if it was not as bad as the first WM5 versions.
I remember installing the very first release on my x50v back then with high expectations. I was utterly disappointed by a start menu that took 5 seconds (no joke!) to unfold and an overall responsiveness worse than Vista's (which otherwise is the king of sluggishness). But I digress - let's get back to your question.
Besides the already mentioned bugs in the videocall and WiFi functions you also get a nice memory leak (less bad in some of the recent releases), sometimes cut off call notifications, problems with certain radio ROMs (which might be an issue under WM5, too), battery drain problems on some devices and many minor things that - despite our great developers efforts - make you realize that WM6 never was officially released for the Universal.

PsiDOC said:
I personally find the opposite that you have.
WM5 for me is significantly faster than WM6.
Having cooked both WM5 and WM6 roms I will freely admit that WM6 is certainly less restrictive to work with from a developer point of view.
Also on the universal WM6 does not have fully functional videocall and WIFI WPA-PSK can be a pain.
Psi
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I agree with you. We all know that wm6 does not operate at 100% all components of the universal, it has many flaws. At the moment I am still with wm5.
Greetings.

WI-FI and videocall DOES NOT WORK.
Nobody here can fix.
Would-be cooks tryed.. But nobody succeeded.
So: Why sould i use an operative system that CASTRATES Universal's Hardware?
I'm not masochist.
What about you?
Problem is that ONLY PsiDOC is workin'on WM5.
I thank you, PsiDOC..
Thank you very much...

DJ Palmis said:
WI-FI and videocall DOES NOT WORK.
Nobody here can fix.
Would-be cooks tryed.. But nobody succeeded.
So: Why sould i use an operative system that CASTRATES Universal's Hardware?
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my of us can fix .. but guru or not interesting in this .... or that functionality they dont use ... like me

mo3ulla said:
my of us can fix .. but guru or not interesting in this .... or that functionality they dont use ... like me
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[For Italian readers]
Sentite qualcuno può tradurre in inglese "M'AVETE STRAFRACASSATO I COGLIONCINI CON STA RISPOSTA DEL CAZZUS???"
[/italian readers]
Well, i should suggest you and your guru to buy my first mobile phone.
http://www.gigatel.hu/phones/0033.jpg
Belive me: It has the same weight of Universal and it is ONLY A PHONE!
I'm sure you all will like it!
If you want you can write on the top of the screen:
WINDOWS MOBILE 8 (BETA).
EVERYBODY WILL ENVY YOU!!!
NO USELESS FUNCTIONALITY.
NO USELESS VIDEOCALL.
NO USELESS SMS.
NO USELESS MMS.
NO ULTRAUSELESS WI-FI.
Well.. Useless if you live on Antarctic Circle.
BUT i live in Italy.

NO USELESS VIDEOCALL. - uselss in russia and in most part of world ...
NO USELESS SMS.- its work on all wm6
NO USELESS MMS. - mms hehe .. why use mms while we have email ?
NO ULTRAUSELESS WI-FI. - i use uni to coonect with GOLDEN WIFI internet provaider .. its open wifi network without key ... i dont need .. many others will agree with me

I am for WM6. I don't use video call (USELESS for me). WiFi - WPA-PSK works perfectly. No more memory leak as far as I can see. What else can I ask?
I use WM6 on both Universal and X51v.

mo3ulla said:
NO USELESS VIDEOCALL. - uselss in russia and in most part of world ...
NO USELESS SMS.- its work on all wm6
NO USELESS MMS. - mms hehe .. why use mms while we have email ?
NO ULTRAUSELESS WI-FI. - i use uni to coonect with GOLDEN WIFI internet provaider .. its open wifi network without key ... i dont need .. many others will agree with me
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You are absolutely right, I`m from Bulgaria and here we have a 3G with video calls support, but peoples don't use it (me too)

So you bought something that you can't use!
It's like a blind buy La Gioconda???
Why don't you buy a car in Venice or a TV in a desert island?
They are SO PRETTY USELESS!
Lol..
Sorry, but i can't understand your choiches.

DJ Palmis said:
So you bought something that you can't use!
It's like a blind buy La Gioconda???
Why don't you buy a car in Venice or a TV in a desert island?
They are SO PRETTY USELESS!
Lol..
Sorry, but i can't understand your choiches.
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Ha, ha ... I am thinking of buying a motor boat to travel the sahara.
And some wonder ... Why?
But I was indifferent, then I have my motorboat.
Ha, ha ...
I have a universal and I like to use 100%.
Greetings.

DJ Palmis said:
So you bought something that you can't use!
It's like a blind buy La Gioconda???
Why don't you buy a car in Venice or a TV in a desert island?
They are SO PRETTY USELESS!
Lol..
Sorry, but i can't understand your choiches.
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I bought my Universal (new + storage card) for 290$, are You kiddin me
And my choice is:
- big vga screen
- big qwerty keyboard
- fast processor
- laptop like construction
- WM6

My Uni right now has:
02 XDA Exec (G4)
WM6PRO Business AKU 0.7
16gb A-Data SDHC
Crystal Clear Case ;-)
Motorola H375 Bluetooth headset
I tried the other WM6 roms but as everyone just mentioned, memory/feature problems. I was really disappointed by thingonaspring's new wm6 rom but ultimately had issues with battery drainage and odd quirks!
I don't use videocall and all the other features work like a charm (particularly SDHC). I also never reboot with Laurentius' WM6Pro Business Rom! (THANK YOU!) Funny mentioning wifi problems but I haven't had an issue with them once going into my router and making sure the settings match.
Anyway, I'd like to try a WM5 rom, especially if there's speed improvements. Are there any you guys recommend? I'm mostly concerned with stability and speed. Oh, and SDHC is a must so I can use my 16gb SDHC card. ;-)

axebox said:
My Uni right now has:
02 XDA Exec (G4)
WM6PRO Business AKU 0.7
16gb A-Data SDHC
Crystal Clear Case ;-)
Motorola H375 Bluetooth headset
I tried the other WM6 roms but as everyone just mentioned, memory/feature problems. I was really disappointed by thingonaspring's new wm6 rom but ultimately had issues with battery drainage and odd quirks!
I don't use videocall and all the other features work like a charm (particularly SDHC). I also never reboot with Laurentius' WM6Pro Business Rom! (THANK YOU!) Funny mentioning wifi problems but I haven't had an issue with them once going into my router and making sure the settings match.
Anyway, I'd like to try a WM5 rom, especially if there's speed improvements. Are there any you guys recommend? I'm mostly concerned with stability and speed. Oh, and SDHC is a must so I can use my 16gb SDHC card. ;-)
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Which version of Laurentius' WM6Pro do you use, i am new to all this & have tried 2.08.01 which was good apart from contacts & 2.09.01 which works ok but didn't seem to be as stable, with some programs not working as expected. I would like to stick with WM6 if possible. Is there a vanilla Laurentius 2.08.01 around somewhere.

fed up of wm6
hi i had flashed almost all the WM6 roms, was not fully satisfied.. i found only JW's ROM stable, others had issues.. now im back to WM5, and trying to flash some of the cooked WM5 like Psidoc's .. so far im happy with WM5.. i changed the look a bit, using WM6 theme..

Im using Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM 2.12.08 WWE and love the speed and its very stable. WPA TSK works fine and I have never wanted to make a video call anyway. yes its got a little less ram. on average about 4-5mb less but I can live with that aslo

Pros & Cons
WM6 Advantages (most of the ROMs here)
- better interface, icons
- improved speed
- stable (some of the ROMs are, especially Jwrights & Ranjus latest)
- powerful search function
WM6 Disadvantages
- no videocall
- WiFI unstable for certain configurations
- certain ROMs have SYNC issues especially notes (Ranju's works perfectly)
- camera response is quite slow and some have memory buffer issues
WM5 Advantages (T-Mobile Official AKU3.3, get the latest release on January 2008)
- stable
- all the functions are working and utilized 100%
- good speed (similar to WM6)
- supports SDHC (I tested with 4GB SDHC card)
WM5 Disadvantages
- lacking on the GUI
My verdict
If you want better GUI, go for my favourite Ranju's v5.1 (I have not tested v6 yet), its a very well designed ROM.
If you want full functionality, go for T-Mobile Official AKU3.3 WM5 ROM (January 2008 released), i am using it currently as to support for Video Calling.
Otherwise, TRIAL & ERROR, find the one that suits you. Or you may help the developers by flashing their ROM and provide FEEDBACK to them, to let the grow and improve.
Thats it.
The keyword, spend some time in the Forums here, flashing, and patience, you may love your UNI even more...

End of an Era

Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
Most of our legendary developers (JWright, Midget, Leo, Beasty, Helmi) now have different devices, or looking at a new one anyway.
Hopefully our other developers and cookers can continue their work, but it is unlikely that we will see new ROMs and completely new builds of WM6 as we have seen in the past.
I would ask you that you always read the wiki first, and that you don't clog the threads asking developers to release new versions

funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni

mo3ulla said:
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
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I stand corrected
Nevertheless, we're running out of developers for the Universal...
Just got to wait for the Omni

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wait for the Omni
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omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards

mo3ulla said:
omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
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Un-standard Screen:
There are a couple of other devices with this (so Microsoft must have a solution). But your right, there are a lot of poorly written applications out there.
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
Screen Rotation:
Haven't actually heard anything about the screen rotation (do you have a link?). But yes, if its more complex then its more likely to fail
SD Card:
Unfortunately I do have to agree with you on this. Micro-SD is available upto 12Gb (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/sandisk-crams-12gb-onto-a-microsdhc-card/) it is *a lot* more expensive than standard SD
So, if the Omni is not a good replacement, and the Universal is growing old - (I can't believe I'm about to ask this question, I love my Uni!) what can we switch to??

I really hope Mo3ulla & Ranju will come up something good and stable and hopefully final (bugs free, welll almost...) ...

TehPenguin said:
Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
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It is a sad day for all of us.

TehPenguin said:
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
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hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh

mo3ulla said:
hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
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You are absolutely right, we are really not benifited from the v5...v6 ARM commands. Eventually I'm sure that the shared xscale graphics is more than enough (unless you're using your uni as a playstation).

Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty

Ditto Beasty - I'm not jumping ship anytime soon.
The only weakness I can see with the Uni is the 64mb ram, and that can always be fixed.

beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Your words were a beam of light through the clouds. In fact, uni is the best PDA till now any one could obtain it. I have had uni since its firts release at the end of 2005, but due to an accident i converted to many other PDAs, wizard, profit and Tytn. In a lucky day i found a person who repaired my Uni, I was too happy to return back to Uni enjoying all what i have lost with other PDAs, the big and high resolution screen, the full keyboard with dedicated 0-9 numbers keys, a tab and big buttons. with the angeled screen i can use the keyboard to dial numbers easly (in wm6 of course) i seldom use the touch screen now to dial, beleive me i have the sensation the I got freed again after a long time of constriction with other PDAs.
But unfortnately there is some cons with uni without them i"ll never think to convert away from uni for more couples of years:
- The problems in radio:
1- the hanging that may occur when dialling, where the screen is stuck on dialing but not actually dialing and u cannot end call. You can go away from phone and use PDA but u must soft reset to use phone again.
2- this occured only once with me, where many persons called me but the phone didn'r ring nor notify the call by any means, every thing is ok with the PDA, i can use it normally but the GSM module is not working at all.
3- The uni may hang with incoming calls, it will hang with the incoming call screen popup without notifyin me, and i discover it when come to use Uni.
- The deficient vedio call in wm6 (it is not so important, i don't use it for routine calls)
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
I don't know much about Omni, but from ur opinions about it, i think it is not a huge jump from Uni, and there is no need to convert to it from lovely Uni.
Regards

beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
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Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Well said Beasty! Thanks for uplifting 'downed' spirits!
Not only Mamaich, we also have The Darkforces Team just in case people had forgotten that most of the new ROM builds floating around came from them, remember the leaked ROM a few months back?
I think our Uni has some juice left even for WM6.1 & the latest enhancements available for her younger VGA sister Athena! The 128Mb RAM hack by Mamaich will prove it's worth in the long run.
As always, a new Uni era will arrive to replace the last one!

I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent

Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
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WOW!! An Universal with 6.1.1 and 128Mb...

beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Guess I was being a bit gloomy because I haven't updated my ROM in a few months, and I heard a few of the developers were getting new devices.
So, I'm downloading ranju's new ROM, and I'll see how that goes...
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
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Thats a good point.
If a lot of HTC's software doesn't work well with VGA devices, why would HTC release a WVGA device?? Guess that kinda makes the Omni look *very* doubtful...

Midget_1990 said:
running WM 6.1.1
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how many trial period remain ????? ( who in theme will understand what i mean)

Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
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Forgive me if I unintentionally overlooked you Sir as one of the ROM builders!
There it goes fellow Uni owners, our own mod itself has WM6.1.1 ROM confirmed running in Uni. I'm curious when it's going to be made "public"

My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.

DaVince said:
My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
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Hey Davince,
Long time since we've seen you around my friend......
I have to disagree with you my friend, as far as Business productivity tool, nothing on the market has come close to the Universal......... it is the only device with a decent sized screen for writing emails and working with documents and no other device has a keyboard as comprehensive or useable as the Uni's.
The Universal era has not ended, with the introduction of Mamaich's great patch to support 128 mb memory and SDHC cards, you will find it impossible to find another PDA on the market that matches for speed, functionality and storage capacity. The Kaiser and other devices that use mini SD's can only support 16GB cards........the Uni beats that too.
The Uni has been reborn, and is far from dead my friend!!
Cheers,
Beasty