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Windows Mobile 7 Mock Ups

Today, I got pretty damn bored, so I made some images in Photoshop that I hope the next version of WinMo will look like (I consider 6.5 already released).
I believe that all future WinMo phones should have a standardized WVGA (480x800) screen to simplify things. An app will work on ALL phones, just like PC's. Besides the WVGA resolution, all screens should be capacitive.
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Today screen. Obviously very minimal.
Pressing the Windows flag brings up this menu. Obviously pressing All Programs shows all installed programs. One could edit this to skip the shortcut menu and go straight to the Start menu.
Notifications will happen like in Android, by dragging the taskbar down.
Very minimal dialer with Slide 2 Answer type action.

That´s cool mate!
Thank you.

someone has a lot of time on their hands

cool looking...hope your right!

Awful! Don't get me wrong, I actually like most of the design
Standardising on a single resolution is a bad idea, because you don't know how long you can keep this resolution ("640kb is enough for anyone"). You either support the real resolution, or you choose not to, in which case the device will revert to 320x240 scaling. It's all about how lazy the dev is, it's not all that complicated really.
Capacitive screens? No thank you. You're better off making resistive screens better, because you cannot use a stylus on a capacitive screen. And while I agree finger-friendly-ness is good, in some situations you just need a lot of info on a single screen and pretty much cram it in there. It's all fun and games when you're an iPhone, but when you need to get actual work done, you don't want to "click" through 40 screens to do anything because everything has to be finger size. It's great for the common app, but for specialized stuff it's just plain balls.
Notifications like in Android? Well this is probably just taste but I really get annoyed by the Android way of notifications (hell the HTC variant is already annoying as ****). How it is in WM by default is no good, but neither HTC's own "improvement" nor the Android way is any better. We need a new idea for this one.
Just IMHO. Looks nice enough, though.

I got your idea but MS wont be that much simple.
They got some very nice make ups for their all new WM7

Chainfire said:
Awful! Don't get me wrong, I actually like most of the design
Standardising on a single resolution is a bad idea, because you don't know how long you can keep this resolution ("640kb is enough for anyone"). You either support the real resolution, or you choose not to, in which case the device will revert to 320x240 scaling. It's all about how lazy the dev is, it's not all that complicated really.
Capacitive screens? No thank you. You're better off making resistive screens better, because you cannot use a stylus on a capacitive screen. And while I agree finger-friendly-ness is good, in some situations you just need a lot of info on a single screen and pretty much cram it in there. It's all fun and games when you're an iPhone, but when you need to get actual work done, you don't want to "click" through 40 screens to do anything because everything has to be finger size. It's great for the common app, but for specialized stuff it's just plain balls.
Notifications like in Android? Well this is probably just taste but I really get annoyed by the Android way of notifications (hell the HTC variant is already annoying as ****). How it is in WM by default is no good, but neither HTC's own "improvement" nor the Android way is any better. We need a new idea for this one.
Just IMHO. Looks nice enough, though.
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If Stantum's "TouchPark" is ever released, I'm pretty sure capacitive screens will become just a novelty.

Chainfire said:
Capacitive screens? No thank you. You're better off making resistive screens better, because you cannot use a stylus on a capacitive screen. And while I agree finger-friendly-ness is good, in some situations you just need a lot of info on a single screen and pretty much cram it in there. It's all fun and games when you're an iPhone, but when you need to get actual work done, you don't want to "click" through 40 screens to do anything because everything has to be finger size. It's great for the common app, but for specialized stuff it's just plain balls.
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Chainfire, meet capacitive stylus's. capacitive stylus's, meet Chainfire.
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/08/15/when-your-finger-just-wont-cut-it-the-iphone-touch-stylus/3
many other are available as well.
anyway, the interface you came up with looks quite nice. but i have a feeling WM7 will have a interface like this but more advanced.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/24/zune-hd-video-hands-on-quickie

Chainfire said:
Capacitive screens? No thank you. You're better off making resistive screens better, because you cannot use a stylus on a capacitive screen.
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nope.. you actually can get a stylus that works with capacitive screens.

crazy talk said:
Chainfire, meet capacitive stylus's. capacitive stylus's, meet Chainfire.
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/08/15/when-your-finger-just-wont-cut-it-the-iphone-touch-stylus/3
many other are available as well.
anyway, the interface you came up with looks quite nice. but i have a feeling WM7 will have a interface like this but more advanced.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/24/zune-hd-video-hands-on-quickie
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I stand corrected! Good to know!

That has to be Devil magic.
I wish they explained how it worked.

I got a HP HT4400 notebook that is convertible to TabletPC, and you cannot touch the screen with your fingers, it just react to the stylus... Dont know what technology is but seems to be a third type
NOTE: And in some programs if you use the stylus inverted, it react as a eraser. It must be magnetic cause it can track the stylus just when its near the screen, no need to touch it.

chad.pflughaupt said:
Today, I got pretty damn bored, so I made some images in Photoshop that I hope the next version of WinMo will look like (I consider 6.5 already released).
I believe that all future WinMo phones should have a standardized WVGA (480x800) screen to simplify things. An app will work on ALL phones, just like PC's. Besides the WVGA resolution, all screens should be capacitive.
Today screen. Obviously very minimal.
Pressing the Windows flag brings up this menu. Obviously pressing All Programs shows all installed programs. One could edit this to skip the shortcut menu and go straight to the Start menu.
Notifications will happen like in Android, by dragging the taskbar down.
Very minimal dialer with Slide 2 Answer type action.
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Those look great! Is there any way I could get those in PSD format? With your permission I'd love to make a minimal, rlToday theme based off of these.
dwizzy130

Chainfire said:
Awful! Don't get me wrong, I actually like most of the design
Standardising on a single resolution is a bad idea, because you don't know how long you can keep this resolution ("640kb is enough for anyone"). You either support the real resolution, or you choose not to, in which case the device will revert to 320x240 scaling. It's all about how lazy the dev is, it's not all that complicated really.
Capacitive screens? No thank you. You're better off making resistive screens better, because you cannot use a stylus on a capacitive screen. And while I agree finger-friendly-ness is good, in some situations you just need a lot of info on a single screen and pretty much cram it in there. It's all fun and games when you're an iPhone, but when you need to get actual work done, you don't want to "click" through 40 screens to do anything because everything has to be finger size. It's great for the common app, but for specialized stuff it's just plain balls.
Notifications like in Android? Well this is probably just taste but I really get annoyed by the Android way of notifications (hell the HTC variant is already annoying as ****). How it is in WM by default is no good, but neither HTC's own "improvement" nor the Android way is any better. We need a new idea for this one.
Just IMHO. Looks nice enough, though.
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Really, who wants to use a stylus? If MS wants WinMo to succeed in the mass market, they need to eliminate the stylus. It's simply not "cool", and I find it annoying to have to pull out to use. What WM7 needs (and is getting, from what we can see) is an interface that works well with our fingers (like the iPhone or Android). I don't know why anyone wants to keep using a stylus when, with a properly designed interface, theres no reason to use one.
Also, whats wrong with a standard resolution? I agree, perhaps in time it will get dated, but theres a time when the DPI of a screen is high enough that you just don't need a higher resolution, and IMO WVGA is fine for pretty much any mobile phone these days. Theres plenty of 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 PC monitors, but you don't see anyone cramming that many pixels into a 15" or 16" desktop monitor (laptops are different, but still, no one is and no one will be using a 1920x1200 netbook, at least not for a few years). So I would say, that at least until WM8 in a few years, theres no problem with using a single resolution.

Throttle Launcher
You could use this concept with Throttlelauncher!
It's a very nice and simple design... you should try to make this happen.
TL is a good start...
Just a suggestion...
Craig

The stylus is outdated.
I have an ELF, and the only reason my stylus comes out is:
1. Soft reset
I'm hoping Microsoft will optimize the Zune HD interface, provide all the compatibility and freedom of WinMo and release it as WinPho 7. The Zune HD interface blows away the iPod Touch, and therefore the iPhone. The Zune HD won't win though - because of the App Store, and that the HD isn't a global product yet. Windows Phones will be universal and have the Marketplace.
Capacitive? Almost definitely. WinPho 7 will be multitouch - there's no way a 2010 release will not be - and resistive has shown no true promises that it can multitouch.

dwizzy130 said:
Those look great! Is there any way I could get those in PSD format? With your permission I'd love to make a minimal, rlToday theme based off of these.
dwizzy130
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pm me if you get it done please. I might even donate you

Sorry guys. I made these a long time ago and no one ever really paid any attention, so I was quite surprised when I see my design show up on Pocketnow.
As long as you credit me, feel free to use my designs for anything. I may have the .PSDs, but I'll have to check. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

UK Keyboard now WM6.5.5 friendly

I've tweaked the qwerty keyboard a little bit so I don't have to hunt for the £ and € sign and \ on secondary pages. In landscape the arrow buttons have been moved to the left-hand side, which centres the letter keys better which think is easier for 2 thumb typing; the side-effect is that xT9 doesn't work correctly.
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I've added the cab file below. It should uninstall correctly but it will need a soft reset afterwards.
21/01/2010 - New cab with some fixes to the layout, mainly affecting the xT9 toggle in portrait and landscape.
14/02/2010 - I've added an additional cab that works with WM6.5.5, it's almost identical to the other version but the button placement is correct.

Oooh, that's quite good. Must come in fairly useful. Now if someone could add ".co.uk" to the long press of the ".com" button, it would be perfect!

bennyhillslovechild said:
Now if someone could add ".co.uk" to the long press of the ".com" button, it would be perfect!
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I've poked and prodded but the TLDs are not stored in the layout files, I think they are in the binary , I've not given up looking though!

sulphuricaciduk said:
I've tweaked the qwerty keyboard a little bit so I don't have to hunt for the £ and € sign and \ on secondary pages. If anyone is interested in using it I could package it as a cab.
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Nope. Sorry. I don't get it...
I can see what you've done with the £ sign (nice!). But I cannot see any change to the location of the € and \ signs on the screenshots provided. Or have I misunderstood what you meant...?

UK keyboard
Duplicate post!

johnkst said:
Nope. Sorry. I don't get it...
I can see what you've done with the £ sign (nice!). But I cannot see any change to the location of the € and \ signs on the screenshots provided. Or have I misunderstood what you meant...?
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I can't take a screen shot of it, but holding down the "f" key pops up "£ € $", likewise with the "/" key I've added "\".
The only problem I've got with the landscape keyboard is xT9 doesn't work properly as the keys are offset, that said I find in landscape xT9 isn't useful; in portrait I find it a necessity.

I dont suppose you know if its possible to disable or remove the xt9 button do you? It bugs me as I'm constantly catching it without noticing owing to its stupid placement and I find it pretty pointless - I always have t9 on and it automatically switches off in password input sections anyway

leoni1980 said:
I dont suppose you know if its possible to disable or remove the xt9 button do you? It bugs me as I'm constantly catching it without noticing owing to its stupid placement and I find it pretty pointless - I always have t9 on and it automatically switches off in password input sections anyway
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The toggle is just a few lines in the layout file, so it's possible to remove it.

sulphuricaciduk said:
The toggle is just a few lines in the layout file, so it's possible to remove it.
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Could you do it for me? it would have been better I think if HTC had made that button smaller and had it as a toggle to pop up the up/down/left/right keys instead of them being constantly on show as they aren't used very often. I don't know about you but i actually haven't had a single need to turn xt9 off since I got the phone and I really can't understand why they put the button there in the first place.

leoni1980 said:
Could you do it for me? it would have been better I think if HTC had made that button smaller and had it as a toggle to pop up the up/down/left/right keys instead of them being constantly on show as they aren't used very often. I don't know about you but i actually haven't had a single need to turn xt9 off since I got the phone and I really can't understand why they put the button there in the first place.
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Yeah, I'll do it this evening. I don't use xT9 all the time, it can be a bit awkward when you are trying to enter names and such or website logins etc, and I have no use for it in landscape (doesn't work properly now anyway).
I could make the toggle box much smaller, so it's harder to hit accidentally, which I think is a better idea. Do you want it shrinking in both portrait and landscape?

sulphuricaciduk said:
I've tweaked the qwerty keyboard a little bit so I don't have to hunt for the £ and € sign and \ on secondary pages. If anyone is interested in using it I could package it as a cab.
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I'll happily put this in a cab for you mate. Just let us know when you're done tinkering and I'll get it done for you.
Cheers!

sulphuricaciduk said:
Yeah, I'll do it this evening. I don't use xT9 all the time, it can be a bit awkward when you are trying to enter names and such or website logins etc, and I have no use for it in landscape (doesn't work properly now anyway).
I could make the toggle box much smaller, so it's harder to hit accidentally, which I think is a better idea. Do you want it shrinking in both portrait and landscape?
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Could you do that? Maybe a tiny box right to the far left. The more fiddly to activate the better! I really never use the keyboard in landscape as I find it harder owing to the greater travel needed for the fingers.

sulphuricaciduk said:
I can't take a screen shot of it, but holding down the "f" key pops up "£ € $", likewise with the "/" key I've added "\".
The only problem I've got with the landscape keyboard is xT9 doesn't work properly as the keys are offset, that said I find in landscape xT9 isn't useful; in portrait I find it a necessity.
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Very nice! Thanks for the extra explanation. Glad it wasn't just me being blind or stupid (this time...)

johncmolyneux said:
I'll happily put this in a cab for you mate. Just let us know when you're done tinkering and I'll get it done for you.
Cheers!
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Thanks for the offer but I had a go before I saw your message. If you could test it though, that would be great.
It's the same keyboard layout from the screenshots in my first post, and as mentioned xT9 is won't work properly in landscape (portrait is unaffected). I've been able to uninstall the cab (soft reset required) and go back to the defaults without any problems; but if anything goes wrong don't sue me!

leoni1980 said:
Could you do that? Maybe a tiny box right to the far left. The more fiddly to activate the better! I really never use the keyboard in landscape as I find it harder owing to the greater travel needed for the fingers.
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Sure, I'll do it some time tonight.
I actually like landscape as my previous phone was a Touch Pro; I find I can be fairly quick typing with two thumbs.

leoni1980 said:
Could you do that? Maybe a tiny box right to the far left. The more fiddly to activate the better! I really never use the keyboard in landscape as I find it harder owing to the greater travel needed for the fingers.
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I've updated my original post with a cab for you. I've made the xT9 toggle on the portrait layout harder to accidentally press, let me know how you get on with it.

[REQ] Tweaks to remove Arrow Keys from Keyboard

Hi guys, I am not sure if many of you have this problem, but the arrow keys on the bottom row is really a pain, as it is just below the space bar.
More often than not, when I try to tap the space bar, I tend to accidentally hit the arrow keys below it, causing T9 to change to an alternate word.
This has been very annoying to me. I have done some search and found quite a few complains from the others as well regarding this issue.
I personally find no use for the keys to be there. and I believe same goes to most of you HD2 users.
Can I please ask for some help from the expert around to create a tweak or maybe some step by step guide to remove the arrow keys from the bottom row of the keyboard, making the keyboard shorter.
This is something that I believe will help many of us out there. thanks for viewing.
Your help will be appreciated!
PS: I have tried finger keyboard, but it still have the arrow keys, and i am having some problem with the suggesting contact names. I really hope some one could just remove the arrow keys from the original keyboard, as it is really good aside from the arrow keys being there. Thanks Again!

leejiahui said:
hi guys, i am not sure if many of you have this problem, but the arrow keys on the bottom row is really a pain, as it is just below the space bar.
More often than not, when i try to tap the space bar, i tend to accidentally hit the arrow keys below it, causing t9 to change to an alternate word.
This has been very annoying to me. I have done some search and found quite a few complains from the others as well regarding this issue.
I personally find no use for the keys to be there. And i believe same goes to most of you hd2 users.
Can i please ask for some help from the expert around to create a tweak or maybe some step by step guide to remove the arrow keys from the bottom row of the keyboard, making the keyboard shorter.
This is something that i believe will help many of us out there. Thanks for viewing.
Your help will be appreciated!
Ps: I have tried finger keyboard, but it still have the arrow keys, and i am having some problem with the suggesting contact names. I really hope some one could just remove the arrow keys from the original keyboard, as it is really good aside from the arrow keys being there. Thanks again!
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amen too that!

I would also like to see this happen.

me also

Maybe something like the HD Mini, it has a button to switch between having the arrows and disabling them.

chrisrj28 said:
Maybe something like the HD Mini, it has a button to switch between having the arrows and disabling them.
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ya maybe someone can port the hd mini keyboard for hd2

nirvanax said:
ya maybe someone can port the hd mini keyboard for hd2
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This would have the added bonus of freeing up more screen real estate. Or bigger buttons would be nice.

I would also love to see this happen.

The simple solution is for some third-party developer to design an alternative VK that finally utilizes the upgraded screen real-estate.
Android has tons of different keyboard layouts... developers just need to jump on-board with Windows Mobile.

Reignzone said:
The simple solution is for some third-party developer to design an alternative VK that finally utilizes the upgraded screen real-estate.
Android has tons of different keyboard layouts... developers just need to jump on-board with Windows Mobile.
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I hate the arrows as well... We need a project to start working on this

Hi me again. So has any expert programmer out there could please please help us out???
any guidelines would be good. Thanks!!

Search for Nikoan89 wvga keyboard v2.2. That has the function with arrows you want.. Its an old feature btw..

Correction. version 1 see to be better... Pressthe arrow button and magic happen on top of the kb..

Hi, Nikoan keyboard seems to be ideal, however after installing his WVGA cab, my HD2 wouldnt boot and was always stuck at the white screen with the HTC words. At 1 point I tot i have bricked my phone... coz i wasnt able to sync and re flash my rom. However i got it fixed in the end.

i too am looking for something like this as well as modifying the landscape SIP to put the cursor keys on the left side of the KB.
why?
cuz i have small hands/thumbs. if the cursors were on the left, there would be equal reach to the keyboard on both sides, unlike now where the right side is twice the length than the left due to the strip of hardware keys adding to the length of reach.
if someone could reorganize the stock (HTC) keyboard cursors:
1. in portrait: remove the row of cursors or place them along the TOP edge of the keyboard.
2. in landscape: move the column of cursors from the right to the left of the keyboard.
SPB and Resco charge $20-25 for their keyboard solutions. after trying both, i think they both suck and i'm glad i trialed them first.
therefore, i'm willing to pay/donate $25 to the first person who can meet both of my requested modifications without bugs.

I personally prefer those arrow keys to be there. Only because I find it annoying that when I type, and make a mistake, putting my blinking cursor-line right after the mistake only to hit backspace to delete the mistake, is annoying.
I just typed a mu|stake. ARGH! (Must put cursor between U and S in order to edit it. - Always a hit/miss)
Any tips?

Swype Tips & Tricks - WOW Swype is complex!

No wonder I didn't like it. I wasn't using half of its functionality! There's a TON of hidden stuff.
http://www.swypeinc.com/tips-tricks.html
Check out the Swype Help and the Video Tips & Tricks.
I was also completely ignoring the Sym key!
A small excerpt:
Editing
It is often faster to ignore the Word Choice window and just keep entering text, checking the text after you have entered a paragraph or so.
If you spot an incorrect word, edit it by double-tapping the word. The Word Choice window will display, allowing you to select the intended word, which will automatically replace the highlighted word. The intended word will usually be the first word in the list, in which case you can touch anywhere in the window and glide up through the top of the window to correct the word. In addition, the text cursor will automatically return to where it was before you double-tapped the word, so that you can keep going with entering text where you were before you paused to review the last paragraph.
If you don't find the word you want anywhere in the Word Choice window, simply Swype the word again and the new word entered will replace the incorrect word (in this case, the text cursor will be left at the end of the word you enter, in case you wish to do further editing there).
Instead of double-tapping a word to correct it, you can also tap your finger once anywhere within the word, and then press the Swype key .
Once you tap the Swype key, the word containing (or next to) the cursor is highlighted and a Word Choice window appears that shows the alternate word choices from when the word was entered. You can select the intended word, or begin Swyping a new entry to replace the word.
Note that Swype only keeps this information (the list of alternate word choices associated with a word) for a few hundred words. If you attempt to edit a word that was entered prior to this history, or for which no other possible words were identified, Swype may simply "beep" to inform you that no alternate word choices are available, and no Word Choice window will be displayed.
To edit more than a few words, consider using the Editing keyboard.
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I was also using it wrong; looking at each word after I swyped to see if it was correct. I'm going to test it out more by just going full-bore and only checking after paragraphs.
Any full-time Swype users out there?

I used it for about a month or so as my only kb and found it was a lot easier if you didn't think about it, but I didn't know about that functionality either. I have been using smart keyboard pro for about a month or so now and type just a little slower than I did with swype but with better accuracy on smaller words.
I may give it another go again after reading this information. Thank you.

Great info as always paul, thanks much didn't know about it either lol

Woah that's really deep! Will have to check out all those videos when I get home tonight. Thanks!

this is also all covered in the swype tutorial and tips and tricks when you tap the swype key

My primary keyboard. I think it is fantastic. I do tend to check my input every few words. My biggest problem with it is that I can't spell
The big questions for me are:
When will they release it ?
How much will it cosr ?
When will there be a Tablet PC version ?
Zuber

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When will there be a Tablet PC version ?
Zuber
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That would be ballin as they say.
-Charlie

Is anyone able to edit a word by tapping on it twice? For me the only way is when I tap on it once then hit the Swype key.

paulk_ said:
Is anyone able to edit a word by tapping on it twice? For me the only way is when I tap on it once then hit the Swype key.
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Double tap works in landscape but in portrait I have to use swype key.
Are you using the beta version on these forums? I've got a feeling it might be out of date and that's a feature missing from the portrait keyboard in our version.

I can't remember which version I'm using lol. When I first got my Nexus I had to go through quite a few versions which didn't work and lost track of which ones I tried.

Re: WOW Swype is complex!
I cant be without swype now. The videos are very useful, I didn't take they added more, I'll have to check the new ones out. A big change for me was when I realized you could swype over things like ' and it knew what you needed making a word like hadn't much quicker. Also tyre swyping over the necessary keys for a smiley face it knows! Or swype z to space for an exclamation. Very fast way to type, I couldn't be without it.

The punctuation stuff use to bother me a lot in an earlier beta, but being able to swype to the spacebar is awesome.

LevitateJay said:
Double tap works in landscape but in portrait I have to use swype key.
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Hah! Yet another easter egg. I was wondering last night why double tap never worked! Just tested, and yep, looks like landscape only, unless they changed it in a newer beta version.
paulk_ said:
I can't remember which version I'm using lol. When I first got my Nexus I had to go through quite a few versions which didn't work and lost track of which ones I tried.
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If you go into the Swype options (Settings -> Language & Keyboard -> Swype), you can see your version number at the bottom. Here's my version:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Is anyone using a newer version?
I'm in the beta, but haven't received any emails at all since I first signed up. I wonder if you have to manually go and get your updates, or there just haven't BEEN any updates period?

Paul22000 said:
Hah! Yet another easter egg. I was wondering last night why double tap never worked! Just tested, and yep, looks like landscape only, unless they changed it in a newer beta version.
If you go into the Swype options (Settings -> Language & Keyboard -> Swype), you can see your version number at the bottom. Here's my version:
Is anyone using a newer version?
I'm in the beta, but haven't received any emails at all since I first signed up. I wonder if you have to manually go and get your updates, or there just haven't BEEN any updates period?
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Wow, thanks for the videos. There's one I didn't see when I did the tutorial on the phone. I remember accidentally bringing up the "sym" layer and couldn't for the life of me figure out how I did it
I checked my version number and it's the same version as you. I was wondering about updates too, I'm also in the beta and atrackdog tells me theres newer versions available.

That was a great find with all in one page, it even worked watching from my Nexus. I never knew half the stuff it could do till now. Thanks for shring this info. Everthing worked perfect i'm using 1.25.5612.t100 Black and white themed!

Love the keyboard in portrait mode. Hate the keyboard in landscape mode. Though I never really use landscape to type things.
I'd recommend anyone who uses the keyboard to read through the help file included with the keyboard. I really really love this keyboard because I tend to use multi syllabic words, and it's incredibly faster than typing out with t9 or reg keyboard.
The only thing I wish I could configure is the "in between words" time. I usually have to intentionally stop swiping when doing two words that end and start with letters close together, otherwise it will interpret them as one word. (ex: time and react)
Plus it has a tab key. =P
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Just foudn out about Hopping: All over my face, so awesome

I use it full time and I love it!!! Much faster than a regular HTC keyboard!

I honestly don't know how people don't use it. It's so easy and in my mind much quicker. Working for T-Mo I give demos of it at least 5-6 times a day and people are blown away. Especially the heavy texters who won't leave their hardware keyboard...
"Wanna Race?"

I love swype, specially the ability to type numbers by long-pressing, no need to shift modes, and long-pressing the Q to change language.
However the thing that annoys me the most is when my preferred word for something gets hidden by another one that I used only ONCE and I can't seem to restore it, no matter how many times I type it or click on the swype key...

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I love swype, specially the ability to type numbers by long-pressing, no need to shift modes, and long-pressing the Q to change language.
However the thing that annoys me the most is when my preferred word for something gets hidden by another one that I used only ONCE and I can't seem to restore it, no matter how many times I type it or click on the swype key...
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One of the neat tricks I found out last night. Double tap a word so it's highlighted. Then press the Sym key and it will either add your word, or delete it.

[App] Thumb Keyboard v1.5.1

Note (nov 30, 2010): By now there are two versions: a lite version, published here (free) and a full version (paid) on the market. The full version will be continuously updated with new features, layouts, styles and more. The lite version will get no more updates.
(feb. 16, 2011) New thread for the full (paid-for) version created here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948179 . Please post your requests, questions, comments etc in that thread. Thanks
------ initial announcement ----------
New thumb keyboard for easy thumb typing. The idea is simple. I've split the keyboard in two halfs, took them apart and placed them above each other (see screenshots). Result: much wider keys...
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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Somehow the brains does the remapping remarkably well. Left/right to up/down doesn't seem a problem. The result is that the keys can be defined with a greater width and that for thumb typing the phone can be hold in much more natural way.
Press-and-hold the keyboard icon for switching between layouts, settings and selecting another input method:
I'm very curious what other users think about this concept... Also I'm very interested in getting feedback on the usability of this concept.
Site
App blog: http://thumbkeyboard.blogspot.com/
Little FAQ
Q: I don't see the keyboard after installing it
A: The procedure of selecting the keyboard is described in the screen you see right after you have installed the keyboard. It's described in the section "Selecting the Keyboard". You can consult this info at any given time by tapping on the Thumb Keyboard app in your app drawer.
Basically the procedure is as follows: go to the Android keyboard settings menu by selecting "Settings" or "Preferences" in your app drawer and then "Keyboard ...". In this menu check "Thumb Keyboard". Now, when you want to edit something and your normal keyboard pops up, long tap in the edit field and select "Thumb Keyboard" from the "Input Method" menu.
Q: How can I switch to another layout or set up my preferences for the keyboard
A: Also described in the info screen under the header "Setting up the Keyboard". Anyway... long press on the keyboard icon in the left corner at the bottom of the keyboard to access the settings menu and to switch layouts.
Q: I can't download the file that is attached to this post.
If you try to download it from your Android phone keep in mind that not all browsers support downloading apk files directly. You can either try another browser, use a download helper or download it from your pc/mac
Q: Will this keyboard help me to find answers to some urgent existential questions?
A: No. But you can always read a good philosophy book and make notes with this keyboard.
Q: Huh?
A: kidding
Changelog
v1.5.1 * missing accented characters added * solved spacing issues in the accented character popup keyboards * added a numpad popup keyboard (press and hold [email protected]) * Some additions to the help/info screen"
v1.5 * New Style * International (accented) characters * Popup Smiley Keyboard * Option to mark keyboard blocks with different colors * Numbers on the compact keyboard * Checkerboard Vibrate Pattern * option to set vibration strength * etc (Compatible with Android 1.6 and higher)
(Users who already downloaded the 1.5 version are adviced to download the (new) attached version again)
v1.4.1: Small update: * added a extra, redundant "g" to the "asdf" row to address more typing habits. * made the keyboard suitable for all possible screen densities
v1.4: *finally adapted the landscape keyboards for thumbtyping (see screenshot) *added new portrait layouts with a squeezed q for better accessibility of the t (see screenshot) *changed the layout of the symbol/num keyboards
v1.3: Added help info + caught a bug or two
v1.2.1: = 1.2 + little bug fixed (and . added to the first symbol screen)
v1.2: Changed the behavior of the Shift-key: *Double tap on Shift key to turn on/off Caps Lock * auto capitalize after period (can be turned off in preferences)
v1.1:
New additional small layout
QWERZ keyboard layouts (Big and Small)
(1 Gesture added) Swipe back for backspace
Sound bug fixed
Remember: long press menu icon for options and settings
v 1.0 release
Distribution
I will not allow any distribution of this keyboard without a explicit permission by me.
Full Version
The full version (with text prediction, themes, tablet layouts, resizable height, sound selection, auto quick fix, etc. etc.) is available on the Android Market and on AndroidPIT (paypal)

Like the concept. It is almost like my left and right thumb knew which keyboard to use. Maybe you can try changing one of the space keys for special characters or hard press on letters for special characters. I like the idea although I have to trade it for screen real-estate. Not bad, indeed a lot of work need to be done but I'm definitly keeping my eyes on the this. Thank you.

I'm an idoit I just notice the special character key is next the "g".
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niscrome said:
Like the concept. It is almost like my left and right thumb knew which keyboard to use. Maybe you can try changing one of the space keys for special characters or hard press on letters for special characters. I like the idea although I have to trade it for screen real-estate. Not bad, indeed a lot of work need to be done but I'm definitly keeping my eyes on the this. Thank you.
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thanks for your feedback. I've changed the layout a bit (concept remains the same). After some testing and some feedback from others I decided to place the spacebar, backspace key etc on the default location.. The result is much better.

this new version looks better!
i will try it very soon but is very unlikely for it to replace swype or swiftkey.
still, as soon as i try it i can give you some more feedback (will be about portuguese writing, i'm afraid)

Im testing this keyboard right now.
I just found a few bugs.
1. When starting writing caps lock is on and doesnt go off after the first letter.
2. Every time i use backspace it erases two lettrrs instead of one.
3. It may be me but im missing so much more lettrrs.
i believe most of my writting is done with one hand.
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i gave up writing in my nexus. its too hard for me
i'm sorry and i hope you dont get mad at me but i'm not very confident in this keyboard. at least i tried it. hope you understand. stil... good luck
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

nutweevil said:
Im testing this keyboard right now.
I just found a few bugs.
1. When starting writing caps lock is on and doesnt go off after the first letter.
2. Every time i use backspace it erases two lettrrs instead of one.
3. It may be me but im missing so much more lettrrs.
i believe most of my writting is done with one hand.
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i gave up writing in my nexus. its too hard for me
i'm sorry and i hope you dont get mad at me but i'm not very confident in this keyboard. at least i tried it. hope you understand. stil... good luck
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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Don't get me wrong. I write this stuff because I need it myself and I share it because, you know, maybe others can use it too. So how can I be mad... I myself like and use this keyboard very much.
As for the bugs you reported. Yes, I can reproduce them and fix them asap.
BTW what makes this keyboard hard to use for you, the bugs or the layout

What does it look like in landscape orientation?

Edit fixed backspace bug. Shift key functionality is under review and reconstruction.

my biggest problem with the keyboard is that i'm missing too many letters. its like i was trying to say. i dont know why but i believe i dont miss as many with other keyboards, or they correct me, i dont know :\
the keyboard layout seamed like a really good idea but first i noticed i'm not using that much the two hands to write in my everyday writing. neither swiftkey, neither swype need two hands so i guess that may be my second problem. i dont get extra speed for using two hands with either of these two keyboards i'm used to.
Also, i believe you're taking too much of useful space for the keyboard. 2/3 of the screen is too much i think. maybe a solution with less used space? Another thing: at first i did understand the idea: get bigger and better letters. but now you have reduced the size of them again and they are just in a different position than the regular keyboards. why dont you try a little bigger than atm? you can remove the arrows and redistribute the numbers in the left overs. i will try to make a draw of my idea.
the two small bugs i reported are less of it
why dont you try to implement Dvorak keyboard. That keyboard was designed to increase the speed writing and the letters position was carefully selected. Also, it already has many languages configuration already selected so it would be only needed to change this configuration for each language.
more about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard

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What does it look like in landscape orientation?
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i would have to say... it looks bad in my opinion it needs some reorganization in this landscape orientation

nutweevil said:
my biggest problem with the keyboard is that i'm missing too many letters. its like i was trying to say. i dont know why but i believe i dont miss as many with other keyboards, or they correct me, i dont know :\
the keyboard layout seamed like a really good idea but first i noticed i'm not using that much the two hands to write in my everyday writing. neither swiftkey, neither swype need two hands so i guess that may be my second problem. i dont get extra speed for using two hands with either of these two keyboards i'm used to.
Also, i believe you're taking too much of useful space for the keyboard. 2/3 of the screen is too much i think. maybe a solution with less used space? Another thing: at first i did understand the idea: get bigger and better letters. but now you have reduced the size of them again and they are just in a different position than the regular keyboards. why dont you try a little bigger than atm? you can remove the arrows and redistribute the numbers in the left overs. i will try to make a draw of my idea.
the two small bugs i reported are less of it
why dont you try to implement Dvorak keyboard. That keyboard was designed to increase the speed writing and the letters position was carefully selected. Also, it already has many languages configuration already selected so it would be only needed to change this configuration for each language.
more about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
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You noticed that you don't thumb type, it that case I understand all of your points. I designed the keyboard for use with two hands. The keys are wider (maybe as wide as in portrait mode and the height is, I think enough. So yes there is a big difference: look at the first row (qwert) and the 4th (yuiop) and picture them as 1 row, then you see what I mean.
Nevertheless, thanks for your comments. I'll see if I can use it.
Dvorak is a great keyboard layout btw, but a solution to a different problem.

i understood in the process that in order to help you, or in order to try to help you i need to use both thumbs. i'm doing it now.
its indeed easy to see that your keyboard is wider than default by looking at the qwert-yuiop.
i still believe the arrows arent needed. we have a finger to select where we want the cursor or a trackball... so... its just space used in my opinion.
i also believe that the shift isnt at the best spot. why do you require shift at such a great position? It isnt used that much.
the "?" should be near the "enter key". maybe instead of the backspace? i would place backspace in the "3" area, in top the the "op". maybe a little bigger than the others?
isnt the "t" too fair away from the left thumb?

nutweevil said:
i understood in the process that in order to help you, or in order to try to help you i need to use both thumbs. i'm doing it now.
its indeed easy to see that your keyboard is wider than default by looking at the qwert-yuiop.
i still believe the arrows arent needed. we have a finger to select where we want the cursor or a trackball... so... its just space used in my opinion.
i also believe that the shift isnt at the best spot. why do you require shift at such a great position? It isnt used that much.
the "?" should be near the "enter key". maybe instead of the backspace? i would place backspace in the "3" area, in top the the "op". maybe a little bigger than the others?
isnt the "t" too fair away from the left thumb?
what do you think? any valid thoughts now?
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Yep, very valid thoughts Like this feedback. I have to say that some of your points crossed my mind when designing the keyboard.
Some points I want to address:
First, I think the shift key and backspace key are on the wright position because one expect those keys there while typing. I did some tests with some fluent thumbtypers with a previous version in which I moved the backspace to another position and they all, without exception were a bit disoriented. I think the same will be the case with the shift key.
Concerning the postion keys: I don't think they are a waste of space, but I really like more feedback on this. To go to a exact position by touching the location is not that easy is my experience. (For example: misspelling the word imagene and then going back to the e is much easier by pressing 3 times the left key than to select that position with a finger)
Thanks for your feedback.
EDIT: your point about the "t" being too far from the edge is a very good point. But then again it's better than in the landscape scenario.

Pure genius ! I am surprised no one has thought of this before. Just a questions
Is there a way to turn off the clicking noises ? My phone is on silent and I don't see anything wrong in the Sounds menu but yet the noises are there

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Is there a way to turn off the clicking noises ? My phone is on silent and I don't see anything wrong in the Sounds menu but yet the noises are there
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(Press-and-hold the keyboard icon for settings and fast selecting another keyboard)
here you have the option to turn it off but actually the keys keep making the sound =P
@appelflap
have you noticed you have 5-4-3 letters in the top left and 5-5-4 letters in the right bottom? what if you removed one line and got that "shift-z-x-c" in the same line as "y-u-i-o-p"? to extra "help", you could change the color of the keys. This way it would be a suggestion of which thumb (left or right) to be used.
i keep my idea: the arrows arent that great =P by removing those you could try this, i believe.

I love the idea but I really don't understand the point of it in it's current configuration. The keys seem to be the exact same size to me except they've been moved around. I mean, the keyboard isn't THAT small to begin with so unless the new configuration makes them bigger the only thing that seems to be accomplish is making my hold my thumbs in staggered positions... I don't see the benefit in that. (Maybe because I'm on an evo with a larger screen and therefore with a larger keyboard to begin with?)
I'm not going to refund since I want to see where this goes but I don't think it'll be my every-day keyboard for now. Good job though!

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I love the idea but I really don't understand the point of it in it's current configuration.
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So you like the concept but you don't like the way it is implemented in the current configuration. That is something you must elaborate on, because it looks you have a interesting, implicit (not tacit) intuition.
The keys seem to be the exact same size to me except they've been moved around. I mean, the keyboard isn't THAT small to begin with so unless the new configuration makes them bigger the only thing that seems to be accomplish is making my hold my thumbs in staggered positions... I don't see the benefit in that. (Maybe because I'm on an evo with a larger screen and therefore with a larger keyboard to begin with?)
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The keys are much wider. Just take the "qwert" of the first row and the "yuiop" of the fourth and picture them together in one row. The reason you think they aren't that much bigger is maybe because in comparisson to regular keyboard the height is smaller. The result is square keys with a simular height and width.
(I had to reduce the height because of the fact that I had to introduce more rows)
With regular keyboards I concluded that much of my typing errors were caused by hitting adjacent keys on a same row. That's what this layout is supposed to prevent and in my opinion it does a good job in that. The reducing of the height has no influence on the amount of errors I make. (I always thought that the extra height on regular keyboards was mere a suggestive thing)
In the end, what I'm trying to accomplish (and this is the most ambitious part), is to make blind thumb typing possible. I think with this layout that must be possible, only thing I have to introduce for this is a way to give thumbs some feedback so they can return to a fixed, initial position from where they can start of.. (like with a normal keyboard with markers on the "j" and "f")
I'm not going to refund since I want to see where this goes but I don't think it'll be my every-day keyboard for now. Good job though!
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I hope you didn't feel obliged to donate. But thanks, also for your feedback. And please let me know if you have any suggestions, request etc. I hope with the comments and "thumb on" experience of users I can make this keyboard better.

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here you have the option to turn it off but actually the keys keep making the sound =P
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****, you're right! In theory it worked remarkably well Expect a little bug fix real soon.
@appelflap
have you noticed you have 5-4-3 letters in the top left and 5-5-4 letters in the right bottom? what if you removed one line and got that "shift-z-x-c" in the same line as "y-u-i-o-p"? to extra "help", you could change the color of the keys. This way it would be a suggestion of which thumb (left or right) to be used.
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What a great idea!!! Really, brilliant. Thanks, I will definitely implement this idea.
i keep my idea: the arrows arent that great =P by removing those you could try this, i believe.
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I guess that everyone has his own preference in this respect. My plan is to make the non-qwerty characters configurable. (But maybe I sacrifice those keys when moving the upper keyblock one row down)

MeOverTrance said:
Pure genius ! I am surprised no one has thought of this before. Just a questions
Is there a way to turn off the clicking noises ? My phone is on silent and I don't see anything wrong in the Sounds menu but yet the noises are there
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tapping-and-holding the keyboard icon will bring you to a setting menu in which you can not turn off the sounds (Kidding, It's a bug, but there you should have the possibility to turn off the sound)