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What are good apps to customize Today Screen?

Ideally I would like something like what Facade gave me on WM Standard.
I thought the SPB products would help me (I am using SPB Phone Suite, SPB Weather, and Pocket Plus) but they are still not really what I am looking for)
I want something that makes the best use of the T750's small screen.
Most importantly something that allows me to set the Exact way my appts are displayed on screen (how many, size, lines per appt, etc)
What are you guys using or what would you recommend?

i'm new to this forum and i'm also interested to know more info about this. thanks

heh, so would I. I too have used Spb's suits and they're just too big.

Well I have tried a lot of different apps and plugins and here is what I am using for now:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Since other people are interested here is what I used (in order top to bottom)
-Dial Lookup (with Lookup field hidden)
I really hate how you Have to use this plugin or your phone doesn't work properly.
-SPB Phone Suite
Smallest one I could find that shows My missed calls/Emails/SMS/MMS/VM and as a Huge bonus includes a Profiles app (that icon at the end)
-Tasks
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
-Today Agenda
Very Very customizable, gives me all the options I was looking for (more or less) and it is free.
-SPB Weather
Nice and tiny, but has all the info I need right there on the screen (but of course you can click it for more info)
-Pocket Plus
Not necessary, but I like having that info and it is nice and small.
So as I said this is what I am using For Now, but I am still looking for more good Today screen apps...

I am using combination of SpB Mobile Shell for the looks and SpB Plus for the tools - excellent.
Mobile Shell gives you big buttons and ability to use "gestures' with your thumb or finger to navigate across different screens with Now Info, Launcher folders and icons and Dialer with photos.
People look at my phone and think iPhone - except I have tons of great programs Apple only dreams of. Extremely useful one, hand, one finger use of my Treo.
With a finger I slide from my Now page to my program launcher to my dialer. A finger again and I am at the WM Today screen from Plus. Another finger and a three screen chooser appears letting my choose the page I want to start with.

txzman said:
I am using combination of SpB Mobile Shell for the looks and SpB Plus for the tools - excellent.
Mobile Shell gives you big buttons and ability to use "gestures' with your thumb or finger to navigate across different screens with Now Info, Launcher folders and icons and Dialer with photos.
People look at my phone and think iPhone - except I have tons of great programs Apple only dreams of. Extremely useful one, hand, one finger use of my Treo.
With a finger I slide from my Now page to my program launcher to my dialer. A finger again and I am at the WM Today screen from Plus. Another finger and a three screen chooser appears letting my choose the page I want to start with.
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wow. that sounds great. i wonder how it looks like.

txzman said:
I am using combination of SpB Mobile Shell for the looks and SpB Plus for the tools - excellent.
Mobile Shell gives you big buttons and ability to use "gestures' with your thumb or finger to navigate across different screens with Now Info, Launcher folders and icons and Dialer with photos.
People look at my phone and think iPhone - except I have tons of great programs Apple only dreams of. Extremely useful one, hand, one finger use of my Treo.
With a finger I slide from my Now page to my program launcher to my dialer. A finger again and I am at the WM Today screen from Plus. Another finger and a three screen chooser appears letting my choose the page I want to start with.
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If you like it great, but I tried SPB Mobile Shell and hated it.
I really didn't like the fact that it changed everything about my phone. No more WM start menu, no more WM programs listing, no more anything WM. I like have a WM phone and using the settings and features of WM.

Actually you are wrong - you just need to customize.
1. Change the default start button to go back to drop down menu for when you need it.
2. Eliminate using Program launcher button and completely customize My Menu for your own programs. All menus are re-arrangeable to have what you want in each large button 'folder'.
3. One swipe down in any window takes you back to WM or WM with PocketPlus. Another swipe takes you back to Mobile Shell. I will figure out how to post some screenshots. I didn't lose anything WM, and added tons of functionality I cannot get with Microsoft.

txzman said:
Actually you are wrong - you just need to customize.
1. Change the default buttons to go back to normal WM operation - ie start button for start menu.
2. Eliminate using Program launcher button and completely customize My Menu for your own programs. All menus are re-arrangeable to have what you want in each large button 'folder'.
3. One swipe down in any window takes you back to WM or WM with PocketPlus. Another swipe takes you back to Mobile Shell. I will figure out how to post some screenshots. I didn't lose anything WM, and added tons of functionality I cannot get with Microsoft.
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So with a lot of work you can get back to way you started? Why not just leave it the way you started? (meaning don't install it)
Like I said I tried it and hated it, but admittedly I didn't play around with it too much. (I would have to be really bored or desperate to ever try it again though)
Use Pocket Screen Capture. http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=523

You continue to mis-characterize my comments. You cannot get any of the one-finger functionality out of WM that these 2 programs together offer:
1. Scolling/panning of IE
2. One finger menus
3. 1 finger phone profile use
4. Real Close button
5. iPhone type animations
6. Built in weather on NOW screen
7. Fast access to messages, mail missed calls
8. Ability to flip 'pages' of screens with different capabilities.
9. 12 Picture phone squares for easy 1 finger dialing of most commonly called numbers.
10. Infinitley customizeable pages and tabs of programs, files, documents
11. Variety of Today screen options and plugins
12. Works with add in PIMs like Agenda One, Pocket Informant, More
And even access to all basic WM features - which you seem to like so much..
And more......

txzman said:
You continue to mis-characterize my comments. You cannot get any of the one-finger functionality out of WM that these 2 programs together offer:
1. Scolling/panning of IE
2. One finger menus
3. 1 finger phone profile use
4. Real Close button
5. iPhone type animations
6. Built in weather on NOW screen
7. Fast access to messages, mail missed calls
8. Ability to flip 'pages' of screens with different capabilities.
9. 12 Picture phone squares for easy 1 finger dialing of most commonly called numbers.
10. Infinitley customizeable pages and tabs of programs, files, documents
11. Variety of Today screen options and plugins
12. Works with add in PIMs like Agenda One, Pocket Informant, More
And even access to all basic WM features - which you seem to like so much..
And more......
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No no, I understand you perfectly. It is just (as I have said) I tried it and hated it.
And you comparing it to the iPhone doesn't help. My iPhone was one of the worst phones I have ever had. It takes so much longer to do anything on an iPhone, so having iPhone functionality is a minus not a plus.
Also this thread is about the Today screen. Everything that SPB Mobile Shell does for the today screen can be done with other apps (and they don't require re-skinning of the whole OS).
Like I originally said: If you like it then great, but I don't.

here's the link to today agenda.
I'm still looking for how to get rid of the carrier info at the top of the today screen.
http://tiews.info/index.php?show=software/todayagenda/download

berdinkerdickle said:
I'm still looking for how to get rid of the carrier info at the top of the today screen.
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Have you tried hidelogo (google for hidelogo.cab)? Works good for me.

miloszz said:
Have you tried hidelogo (google for hidelogo.cab)? Works good for me.
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Thanks
Here's the Link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=954&highlight=hidelogo

@ miloszz,
the one I linked from ppcgeeks doesn't seem to work for me. I've tried checking, and unchecking it in today items, i've tried soft resets.
I will keep trying.
If it wouldn't be too much trouble, if you could post the hidelogo.cab you're using, maybe I could that one to work.
TIA,
Berd

@miloszz,
The one that I linked from ppcgeeks doesn't seem to work for me.
I've tried checking & unchecking it in today items, i've tried soft resets. I'll keep trying.
If it wouldn't be too much trouble could you post the hidelogo.cab that's working for you, so I could give it a try?
TIA,
Berd

You need to tick the Hide Lookup Field
From Menu on Today screen
then under Preferences

Yea, I'm an Idiot!
In BIG GIANT LETTERS it says:
It will only work if you have "Hide lookup field" (from the right soft key menu) checked (this is so the program doesnt interfere when youre using the lookup field).

So,
Back on Topic.
I am leaning towards Today Agenda for Appointments on the Today Screen.
I really like Pocket Breeze but it uses a little more screen with date Titles.

I have been looking for this kind of application for weeks.
Today Agenda is perfect for me.
Thanks

VTI Pocket Emu v2.4 (ti calc emu)

Its interesting to find something like this, though i had my ti's back in high school days, for some strange reason i haven’t ran into this only a while back, the reason is i miss my ti89 but i hve my tilt with me all the time, i do not carry my ti89 but this puts any ti on the pocketPC device
It does work but for the smaller screens then PDA's some of the skinning needs to be tweaked IMO and there are almost no other skins for it, not to mention this was done for 2003
I wonder if anyone has the skills to make nice skins for this, i know the ti86 skin is lacking and the ti89 rom seems a bit slow on my tilt :/ so for basic things i would like to use ti83/ti86
what i would love is, more functionality, like a press and hold to zoom in on a selected area and to press + hold and zoom say on the screen...
also a landscape format would be very nice so that those with keyboards could use the keys
the source for this would be nice, but i dont see it, maybe some dev's can contact those individuals? and open up that project? as pda/pocketPC's are getting pretty powerful and with bigger screens
get it at http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/309/30978.html

drutort said:
Its interesting to find something like this, though i had my ti's back in high school days, for some strange reason i haven’t ran into this only a while back, the reason is i miss my ti89 but i hve my tilt with me all the time, i do not carry my ti89 but this puts any ti on the pocketPC device
It does work but for the smaller screens then PDA's some of the skinning needs to be tweaked IMO and there are almost no other skins for it, not to mention this was done for 2003
I wonder if anyone has the skills to make nice skins for this, i know the ti86 skin is lacking and the ti89 rom seems a bit slow on my tilt :/ so for basic things i would like to use ti83/ti86
what i would love is, more functionality, like a press and hold to zoom in on a selected area and to press + hold and zoom say on the screen...
also a landscape format would be very nice so that those with keyboards could use the keys
the source for this would be nice, but i dont see it, maybe some dev's can contact those individuals? and open up that project? as pda/pocketPC's are getting pretty powerful and with bigger screens
get it at http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/309/30978.html
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BTW, don't forget to also read my dedicated bible in the Wiki.

Is Touch Flo3D silly junk?

I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me

Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.

its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once

As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur

Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.

I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.

It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.

I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good

Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times

Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.

I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.

Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.

James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.

kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?

jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.

TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.

Gigs said:
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.

dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.

ababrekar said:
Care to share those kareem?
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today

HD2 Sense UI on Android 2.1?

Hi Guys,
Is it possible to get HD2's Sense UI on android 2.1 devices? I'm a huge fan of HTC's Sense UI. I'd like to get an android device, but this sense UI is stopping me from getting one!

OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.

i think hes talking about the windows mobile sense. in other words he wants the touchflo like sense if im not mistaken. As far as i know you can't i don't if anyone even tried

i thought legend and desire do actually have almost the same version of Sense UI? They're Android 2.1 devices as well...

yes hes talking about HD2 which is winMo,
i dont think anyone anywhere has done what he says,
i havnt seen sense UI on android, but its lks amazing from the videos better than winMo sense UI (aka touch FLO 3D).

sense andoid vs sense winmo
I'm a winmo user and am not very familiar with andoid. It seems like sense on either improves the home screen.
I've been with Sprint for about 10 years, but considered leaving just to get the hd2 until they announced the evo.
I like the winmo sense today screen because of the slider (don't want to swipe multiple times to get where I want to be), but it looks like andoid might be a little more flexibe in that each screen can have shortcuts or widgets.
I don't like the look of shortcuts just plastered on the screen though and it seems like winmo has come further in the way of mods (more customization/sense tabs/titanium panels) and I've seen (but not yet used) some that 1.detach sense from windows so you can have the windows today screen and sense and 2.enable you to use windows plugins in a sense tab.
Before touchflo I used ultimate launch. It allows tabs that you can put shortcuts, plugins or widgets on and is very customizable. If it had a slider I think it would rule.
I'm hoping more android mods will come soon. I would love to have a slider on sense and more info on the home screen (calendar, missed calls, voicemails, emails, texts, tasks, some metrics) along with the time and weather.
I'm really just looking for the pros and cons even though I will be on android soon because I've been planning on replacing my mogul for a long time (wanted the tp2 then they announced the hd2 then they announced the evo) and the evo is just tooo good. I guess you gotta stop and get something somewhere even if the scorpion is going to be a phone.
I'm not sure if I'm wrong about anything here and would love to hear anyone's thoughts. I hope I'm not off topic as I think touchflo on android sense would be awesome (more screens/panels too although I hear that's a memory hog).

Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...

I would love to have the windows mobile sense as well, hope someone comes out with a theme for it.

G1BRICKED said:
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
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You know... If you're going to take that tone of text with people, and be a complete jerk in the process, it's usually a REALLY good idea to actually be right in what you claim.
Both the HTC Legend and Desire are also Android 2.1 devices, and both have the original Sense UI on which the current Windows version of it is based.

emmarbee said:
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
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The latest version of SenseUI, on Android 2.1 devices, is FAR superior to the limited Windows implementation of it (as far as I've seen of it, anyway). What specific functionality are you wanting?
As for the screen, I can see my Desire's screen quite well in sunlight, though if it's REALLY bright and directly on the screen, I might need to shade it with a hand. It's certainly better than backlit LCD displays are.

sense, android vs winmo
In what ways do feel sense on android is better than sense on winmo? Honestly looking for opinions. I'm a winmo user, but am switching to android for the Evo and am trying to learn about it. I like the slider on winmo and the all the new mods like the expanded and multiple page launcher and the swipe (once) to switch from appts to tasks.
I know on android you have 7 screens (i used to use ultimate launch with multiple screens), but I've begun to like minimal effort navigating (like using the touchflo slider) to get where I want. I think it might bother me to swipe three times to get to the screen I want. I know, I'm lazy.
Also, I know if I use the multiple page launcher on winmo I will be swiping multiple times, but I doubt I would have that many apps and I also like using touchlaunch (touch a letter and it scrolls there) mapped to a softkey.

Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens, so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.

Finally, some good info
FloatingFatMan said:
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens,
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
Kinda cool, but I'm not a big fan of that either as I like one handed operations. I feel like multitouch is overkill on a phone, but to each his own and it is a neat capability, just more complicated than a one swipe.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
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Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
you know, titanium was like sense on winmo, just ass backwards. You swiped/dragged up and down (the long way) to get to your widget (or panel) and then left and right in that panel.
I want the best of both worlds, windroid.

Manicmobileaddict said:
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
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The only limitation is on available screen real estate. Yes, there are full screen widgets available.
Manicmobileaddict said:
Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
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The problem with adding extra widgets in winmo Sense was that I just found a lot of them hack jobs and not very well put together; this is especially true for Titanium widgets. They often needed extra things to be installed such as MortScript just to do things like getting weather forecast; and in a lot of cases, involved having to hack DLL's to get decent levels of customization. They certainly weren't for the average user who just wanted some neat widgets.
I've been a WinMo user since Orange released their first HTC made Smartphone, the C100 or C200 I think it was? Years ago anyway. I've had an Android phone for 1.5 weeks now, and I'm not missing WinMo in the slightest.

wow
Thanks dune fan.

coming from a tp2 i can tell you about the comparisons.
Try the android sense. it appears different... but not really just adapted. On WM there is only one home screen, hence the tabs. but what are the tabs? home, email, contacts, programs, texts, internet....
well on android sense, like you said each screen is extremely customizable...
but stock sense has it organized just like windows mobile. each home screen is filled with a full page widget of... email, texts, social networking, news, weather etc just like wm. except it needs no hacks to change... if you dont li ke the 'tab' or homescreen... just throw it in the trash and load whatever you want.
So, since I loved Sense on my TP2... mine is set up like this. home screen has the exact weatherclock wm has, with a few shortcuts to most used programs. then one screen is texts, one screen is facebook which works aloooot better in android, one screen is a bunch of programs, one screen is emails. the rest I dont really use.
And the HTC keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the WM one, except it never lags, and word correction is easier but looks the same.
The Sense Dialer on Android is, to me, much superior. I hated the n1 dialer bc like Iphone your always scrolling through abc order to find a name. My new superphone took ten times as long to quickly call my friend. But when i loaded the Desire ROM on my n1, the dialer is now almost exactly like the WM one, except it has some more functionality built in.
Honestly I think HTC gave up on WM's Sense, and used it just to bring parity but spent most time developing the Android version. Try it. some people dislike it, but anyone who like the WM version, like me, will be instantly at home. It was like I bought an HD that never lagged or crashed.

I hate to tell this being the OP.
I don't feel like I want the WinMo Sense UI anymore. I was just obsessed with it. And after seeing many Android Sense UI, I feel like the android one's are more user friendly.
What's more shame one me (being a WinMo fanboy) is the fact that, after seeing the videos of Legend and Desire I kinda started liking Android 2.1. It all began with the Google Nexus One. Now HTC has perfect 2.1.
I very well realize that Android has a lottt of catching up to do, to where WinMo is now, but still
Now that I'm more inclined towards android 2.1, why should I go to a phone without Super AMOLED?
Everything is okay with I9000 Galaxy S. Except for few shortcomings...
A) It doesn't have SENSE UI. But I guess it won't be a problem. Won't you guys help me in porting senseUI to I9000?
B) It doesn't have flash. (What? No flash??)
C) The design looks awful. Both the hardware and software is a cheap replica of iphone - shame on Samsung.
If only there was a HTC phone with super AMOLED display, I can make a decison super quick!

Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?

emmarbee said:
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
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It's about as possible as running OSX software in Windows without the aid of emulation or virtualisation.

android sense is much better from hd2 sense. i talk you as winmo addicted
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Can someone PLEASE make a GOOD KEYBOARD!

I have tried just about all the on screen keyboards and they all fail in one are.
EASE of typing! Can someone make a keyboard that leavev out most of the side and bottom keys. Just make it qwerty with ABC key and NOTHING else!
If we need to use numbers make it when pressing and holding a key will switch to numbers and other needed keys. Make the space bar for space and double tap to make a piriod. Is that really that hard to make?
I know for me it is but for you guys out here that so so much in these forums, is it that hard?
I will GLADLY pay if anyone makes such a keyboard.
I'm about to get rid of the hd2 because its a paing to type.
The iphone's keyboard is what I somewhat want it to be.
Big keys with the alphabet only.
Any suggestions??

JasjarMan said:
Any suggestions??
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Yes. Try reading the numerous threads about typing issues and try all the suggestions. If you cannot type after doing everything that has been suggested in this forum then either one of the following...
You have a defective device and need to return it. It will never get better.
You need to practice typing more.
I have used many different types of input methods, with various phones, and I find the HD2 to be one of the best (I don't think there is a clear winner).
Just stick with it (and use the pads of your thumbs, not the tips).

as the above said
as the poster above said.
also try (pay) touchpal 4.0 i use it on all my winmo devices and it is very good

I had a TP2 and got me a HD2.
What a bloody pain in the you know what
But its what John says.
Learn to control the beast
It toke me some time to work the keys to.
But in the end it all worked out oke.
You simply have to get used to it.
So dont give up
Greetz.

Swype ftw!!

matthend said:
Swype ftw!!
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Agreed.
Problem is, idiots dont understand swype so its hard for them

Hi guys, well i somehow have to agree partially to what the TS has to say.
It is not really THAT bad, but I am really keen to see someone edit the layout of the keyboard. The main problem for me is the 4 arrow keys at the bottom of the screen. I tend to always hit that when I am actually trying to tap on my spacebar, and the consequence is bad, because by hitting the arrow key, T9 actually thinks that I want an alternative word.
So in conclusion, if anyone could just remove the 4 arrow keys at the bottom row, HD2 will be COMPLETE!
on top of that, without the 4 arrow keys, a lot more can be seen on the screen!
also can any1 here share their experience if they ever use the 4 arrow keys?
Thanks!

leejiahui said:
Hi guys, well i somehow have to agree partially to what the TS has to say.
It is not really THAT bad, but I am really keen to see someone edit the layout of the keyboard. The main problem for me is the 4 arrow keys at the bottom of the screen. I tend to always hit that when I am actually trying to tap on my spacebar, and the consequence is bad, because by hitting the arrow key, T9 actually thinks that I want an alternative word.
So in conclusion, if anyone could just remove the 4 arrow keys at the bottom row, HD2 will be COMPLETE!
on top of that, without the 4 arrow keys, a lot more can be seen on the screen!
also can any1 here share their experience if they ever use the 4 arrow keys?
Thanks!
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I do use them. And i hate keyboards that lacks them. Navigate through text only by tapping of my finge is the real pain.

i have had my hd2 for a about 4 months and still i dont get on with the keyboard tried all differnents one, i agree.
the keys should be made bigger

danjohnson19855 said:
i have had my hd2 for a about 4 months and still i dont get on with the keyboard tried all differnents one, i agree.
the keys should be made bigger
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im a touchscreen junkie and while i agree the Hd2 keyboard is one of the best. it could be better. bigger keys would be an improvement, its not like our screen isnt big enough!
@op: try Fingerboard2.1 also swype and SlideIt

The friend who started this thread sounds to be an old JasJar user, and I do really agree what he reckoned: we're never going to get a keyboard performing the same features like a Jasjar one!!!

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You have a defective device and need to return it. It will never get better.
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it's not true. hd2 has got a very poor keyboard ... just a nice way to say that it sucks.
his hd2 is like all the other one: it sports a bugged keyboard.
main problem, when pushin a button it types other buttons sorrounding. it was one of the reason I wanna get rid of my hd2. but I discoverd swype..so my suggestion: use SWYPE. simply the best keyboard ever maden for touchscreen

Its not about getting use to the keyboard. Its about making a keyboard that will use the SIZE of the screen!
Just picture a BIG KEYS keyboard with only the alphabet A-Z. Than just 1or2 small keys that by pressing once, press hold will pop out the numbers, the bottom arrow keys to scroll through words.... and whatever else.
THAT would be a killer keyboard, and when switched to landscape with that setup the keyboard would rule.
So, its not about having to get use to junky keybords, its baout making a real practical one. The more we ask devs to develope/make one the faster one will probably make one.
I would pay some good cash for such a keyboard. I'm sue others will too!

cd78 said:
im a touchscreen junkie and while i agree the Hd2 keyboard is one of the best. it could be better. bigger keys would be an improvement, its not like our screen isnt big enough!
@op: try Fingerboard2.1 also swype and SlideIt
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WILL DO, THANKS! But I still want a keyboard as I described.

alexleon said:
it's not true. hd2 has got a very poor keyboard ... just a nice way to say that it sucks.
his hd2 is like all the other one: it sports a bugged keyboard.
main problem, when pushin a button it types other buttons sorrounding. it was one of the reason I wanna get rid of my hd2. but I discoverd swype..so my suggestion: use SWYPE. simply the best keyboard ever maden for touchscreen
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The majority of people can type with no issues, as a poll a while back proved. Most of the people that did have problems could solve them with tweaks to lower sensitivity.
If you read my original post I only suggested that if none of the other things worked then he had a defective device, which is what it turned out to be for an unfortunate but small number of people.

Get FingerKeyboard AND the following layout by nir36 - it has much larger keys compared to the standard Fingerkeyboard layout and takes advantage of the HD2's larger screen space with bigger keys.
Just got it two days ago and it's much better than the standard HTC keyboard. If you need arrow / d-pad keys, I modded nir36's digits layout to include them.
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Swype has literally changed my texting life. LOL. I used to be lucky to get out 20 words a minute, and now I'm like a freakin' court stenographer, all with one thumb. It's brilliant!

to the Htc programmer who decided that the T9 toggle switch should be put right under the letter A and next to the letter Z. Your days are numbered.

Swype's best for me, quick on the go, don't have to bee too accurate, learns as you go along and there are some nice skin's floating about for it +++

Swype is a great novelty, but hopeless for passwords, numbers etc etc.
The standard keyboard, with XT9 on and a screen desensitizer = orsm sauce.
I've tried nearly every keyboard (even FB2) and keep coming back and perserveering with the standard one.
I came from a JasJam then an i780, so it's been a learning curve for me with a software keyboard. XT9 helps me heaps.