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Hi,
Some one knows if the new Shadow Windows Interface can be handled by any of our devices?
Regards,
Taguapire.
what's it look like? any pic's?
i dont have any pics, but it is a simple, yet complex interface. you scroll up and down to get to different menu options. then you can scroll left/right to go to sub options. The interface is nice, but i think it can definately use some tweaking. Ill see what i can do about pics. Also, we need to get a shadow sub-forum opened up so we can address these things in the proper place.
A pic of the interface from Engadget
EDIT: added lik to photo
Shadow pictures
You can see pictures of shadow here and here
Regards,
Taguapire.
nice phone imo..
it really is. The 2x memory does make it run pretty smooth and the size is awsome (almost 1 to 1 the size of a Blackberry Pearl) As soon as i get familiar with the "sure type" style keyboard, i think i will be fully sold on it. Though i do miss a few functions of my PPC (t-mo wing), i feel like i am using my excalibur (t-mo dash) again... just smaller with a bigger screen and 2x memory. So if you are a fan of the excalibur, i think you will really like the Shadow.
Could be terrific if we can try the Shadow Interfae in our devices.
Regards,
Taguapire.
I believe that the shadow runs Windows Mobile Standard, so those with Windows Mobile Professional (touch screens) might be SOL...
Use WAD...
Someone with enough time to spare with Wisbar Advance Desktop can EASILY make that happen if the icons areavailable. Jst sharing some info thats all
alipendier:
People would if there was WAD for smartphones
That may be coming at some point
...yes, it is -- but definitely needs tweaking!
torsion said:
nice phone imo..
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I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.
Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?
jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.
TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.
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James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.
dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.
ababrekar said:
Care to share those kareem?
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today
pointui 2 free beta is released, i've tried it and its ok just ok (tested on touch cruise)
Code:
http://tinyurl.com/cebfez
Downloads
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/196857766/Pointui.Home2.VGA.WVGA.Free.Latest.cab
or for qvga
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/196857765/Pointui.Home2.QVGA.WQVGA.Free.Latest.cab
n1ck75 said:
pointui 2 free beta is released, i've tried it and its ok just ok
Code:
http://tinyurl.com/cebfez
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thanks for the info i'm going to try it
finally...
I just tried it. It ran great on my XV6800. But yeah it was just ok and I don't see myself keeping it.
already taken it off. Maybe i was expecting too much
yea, their original Pointui was much better. This Pointui 2 was such a hassle to install that i could never imagine purchasing it. Also, it just doesn't look very nice.
For the long wait, and all of the "Viva la revolution" quotes on their homepage, it was really a let down. The scrolling does work well though.
That's my take.
The pointui tool to warn the users to the release was not working I did not receive no warn.
I'll try it now.
Well this is a beta (I have to remind myself), and I am going to use it exclusively all day. Maybe I might change my mind. But if not then back to good ole HTC Home.
edit: it just went blank so I had to reset it via the today screen. forget this i will go back to HTC home now.
segadc said:
Well this is a beta (I have to remind myself), and I am going to use it exclusively all day. Maybe I might change my mind. But if not then back to good ole HTC Home.
edit: it just went blank so I had to reset it via the today screen. forget this i will go back to HTC home now.
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i second that!
I'm divided. There's not a whole lot to it, but it's "widget"-based and adding more widgets will certainly improve things. As it is, I like it okay. It's prettier than HTC Home and more functional and responsive than M2D, in my opinion.
I've yet to find a Homescreen replacement I really like. HTC's solutions are all weak in the functionality department, I think. SPB is pricey. Winterface is buggy and too minimal. Home 2 isn't perfect, but I think it's pretty close to what I'm looking for, so I'll keep it around for the moment.
I like that it plays nice with the existing Windows top bar instead of trying to replace it like some homescreen replacements. I'm not a big fan of the top bar, but replacing it is always flaky in my experience.
I'm surprised it doesn't include a dialer skin -- didn't Home 1 have a dialer?
I'll continue to look for the perfect UI too, so far my favs are winterface (buggy - not on my fone) and RLtoday. Hopefully, as said before, this being a beta it can only get better
(expect in the case of longhorn and vista lol)
Off topic but I have been using Home 1.5 forever since it is so stable for me. What are the benefits of 2.0 and is it worth it? I don't want to fix something that's not broken.
edit: Back on topic. Yeah it will be interesting to see some custom plugins and themes for Pointui 2.
I think they should have held off a bit longer until they replicated more of the functionality of older versions / BellUI. I hope there's more to come apart from applets because useful as they are they're not a full solution.
However as a basic framework it's cool, and with the addition of user made applets it's got a lot of potential. Will have to see how it goes.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/198996426/16.02.2009.Pack.rar
theme and applet pack
I tried it and took it off in 5 minutes.
What I like - it offers me a completely different UI feel from what I use (WM 6.1)
What I don't like is the lack of plug in support.
1. Contacts - it doesn't recognize current contact programs (icontact burt edition); it's contacts program doesn't bring in photos (booo)
2. Weather - it didn't pick up my city so that is a complete waste of a tab.
3. Programs - why have a program tab/menu but not automatically pull up all the programs I have. I don't want to reinput that into the ui.
At that point I was fed up.
addicus said:
I tried it and took it off in 5 minutes.
What I like - it offers me a completely different UI feel from what I use (WM 6.1)
What I don't like is the lack of plug in support.
1. Contacts - it doesn't recognize current contact programs (icontact burt edition); it's contacts program doesn't bring in photos (booo)
2. Weather - it didn't pick up my city so that is a complete waste of a tab.
3. Programs - why have a program tab/menu but not automatically pull up all the programs I have. I don't want to reinput that into the ui.
At that point I was fed up.
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I am glad some people take some more time to evaluate software. You do have a favorite contact tab with pictures. It is quite easy to add your own city for the weather tab. Alle your programs are available through the menu button. there is probably a lot more functionality you did not discover. Just try to look in the community site of pointui and you'll be surprised.
emay said:
I am glad some people take some more time to evaluate software. You do have a favorite contact tab with pictures. It is quite easy to add your own city for the weather tab. Alle your programs are available through the menu button. there is probably a lot more functionality you did not discover. Just try to look in the community site of pointui and you'll be surprised.
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I looked but didn't want to have to do it AGAIN. I already have my contacts with pictures on my phone that is set (icontactbe6.4.5) and I like it better.
I looked to put my city on the weather and it didn't come up. Why waste my time at this point.
I am looking for improvement to how I use my phone and Point UI wasn't it. Plus I like using QuickMenu to get to my programs. If I didn't have soft-keys on my phone it may be a better option, but I do and it isn't.
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I looked but didn't want to have to do it AGAIN. I already have my contacts with pictures on my phone that is set (icontactbe6.4.5) and I like it better.
I looked to put my city on the weather and it didn't come up. Why waste my time at this point.
I am looking for improvement to how I use my phone and Point UI wasn't it. Plus I like using QuickMenu to get to my programs. If I didn't have soft-keys on my phone it may be a better option, but I do and it isn't.
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It's fine if you don't like Home, but emay was just pointing out that Home 2 DOES do the three things you're asking for.
The contacts manager absolutely does use contact photos.
Adding custom cities to the weather tab is definitely possible, it just requires a quick edit to the applet's XML, and there's a walkthrough on PointUI's site for doing so. They've stated that they'll make it more elegant in the future, but it IS possible now.
There's a full programs list accessed through the menu -- what you were looking at was the "quick list" where you add your favorites. There's a different spot for the full list.
Keep in mind that this is very much a "1.0" release right now. It's stable, fast, and functional, but lacks a lot of the polish and power that will be added as the community adds new applets and the official team adds the features that will make up the "Pro" version.
Personally, I'm REALLY liking Home 2 so far. It's just very solid.
I haven't tried every homescreen replacement out there -- just HTC Home, M2D, M3D, SBP MS 2.0, and ThrottleLauncher. And Home 1, as well.
Home 2 definitely has the best combination of functionality, speed, stability, and flash that I've seen.
I love POINTUI
I found the first version (HOME 1) a year or so ago to use on my PPC. This program proved to make my phone experience much more enjoyable. I have recently attempted to place Pointui 2 on my Tmobile Dash with no success. I know in time they will port ot all to this device, but first they must finish this PPC release. I can not waste until this is available to me.
I have played around with some of the multitouch apps (browser, maps, image-gallery examples) and found them quite impressive. My question is, can the onscreen-keyboard be hacked to allow for multitoutch?
i know the keyboard is pretty useful but it would be better to have the multi touch features. The screen supports multutouch and it is a bit stupid that apple can copyright multitouch. alot of my friends mock the android cos it doesnt have mutitouch (stupid iphone snobs)
so, is it possible?
I'm sure it would be possible. There honestly should be multi-touch support for the virtual keyboard. Not to display 2 letters at a time obviously, but to just que the second letter to allow for faster typing rather than have it skip between 2 letters. The iphone does have multi-touch support on its VK for the same exact reason of faster typing.
wardy277 said:
I have played around with some of the multitouch apps (browser, maps, image-gallery examples) and found them quite impressive. My question is, can the onscreen-keyboard be hacked to allow for multitoutch?
i know the keyboard is pretty useful but it would be better to have the multi touch features. The screen supports multutouch and it is a bit stupid that apple can copyright multitouch. alot of my friends mock the android cos it doesnt have mutitouch (stupid iphone snobs)
so, is it possible?
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so where are you seeing all of this stuff with the multi touch?
Yeah, I don't think multi-touch is available for Maps and Gallery. If I'm wrong could someone shoot me a link please?
Multi touch is only available in the browser. There were some demos you could install on your phone of the maps and gallery but they were just demos not the actual program.
As for the VK not sure why you would need it. Maybe type faster but other than that I see no need for it.
He's talking about the multitouch examples here: http://lukehutch.wordpress.com/2009/01/25/get-multi-touch-support-on-your-t-mobile-g1-today/
I don't really see what all the hype is about multi-touch. The only reason I can see it being useful is for games, and maybe if a shift key was inserted in the VK. Other than that, I feel it just becomes more difficult. Sure, it's cool technology, but isn't it easier to zoom using your thumb, holding the phone with one hand, than having to use two fingers or two separate hands? I've been running JF builds for months which multi-touch, and barely use it at all.
Multi touch allows for faster typing. Especially if you're typing in landscape mode with your thumbs going at it. I've noticed it would skip letters for me on various occasions because of it not registering hits that are too close to each other.
Why wouldn't you just open the keyboard...
I don't get it
I agree about typing. I also think the iphone's way of zooming in/out on the map is easier, too. It is all preference, but I really want the multi-touch map. Having it as an option would satisfy the masses.
To be honest, after the novelty of having multitouch on the browser wore off I found myself using the "+" and "-" buttons on the screen anyway!
fdisk81 said:
To be honest, after the novelty of having multitouch on the browser wore off I found myself using the "+" and "-" buttons on the screen anyway!
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Personally, I hate those freaking on-screen zoom in/out buttons with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns. They're always popping up in the way of links that are placed at the bottom of web pages and I constantly hit that stupid button in the bottom right of the screen, opening that useless panning box. IMHO on-screen menus should never be placed in front of content. Am I the only one that thinks that's completely retarded?
multitouch
frankly i like the circle zoom!! i thnk tht wud b more convinient then the multi touch unless ur in landscape mode for some reason or another but yes i wud really like multi touch vk!! i need to b able to type faster but i still use my hardware keyboard for fast typing!
i prefer using two fingers to zoom in and out. I feel that by using two fingers you see where you are zooming and dont have a finger in the way. As multitouch is enabled in the rom, using two fingers emulates a finger press in between them, which can get quite enoying if you type fast ir knock a key by accident, u get a random key in the middle.
I know its not essential but these little things give it a nicer feel.
Chris
d0nkey said:
Why wouldn't you just open the keyboard...
I don't get it
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It's a matter of personal preference. Is that not why we like open source so much? Some of us don't want to open keyboards every 4 seconds. Some of us have magic's sans hardware keyboards.
I for one welcome any improvements that I may or not use but in the end they are improvements.
d0nkey said:
Why wouldn't you just open the keyboard...
I don't get it
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Because, I text a LOT. Between work and twitter and friends... I'm texting all the time. sometimes it's just faster to start typing.. plus I'm sure it's better on the hinges to not keep snapping the thing open every minute.
Hi Guys,
Is it possible to get HD2's Sense UI on android 2.1 devices? I'm a huge fan of HTC's Sense UI. I'd like to get an android device, but this sense UI is stopping me from getting one!
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
i think hes talking about the windows mobile sense. in other words he wants the touchflo like sense if im not mistaken. As far as i know you can't i don't if anyone even tried
i thought legend and desire do actually have almost the same version of Sense UI? They're Android 2.1 devices as well...
yes hes talking about HD2 which is winMo,
i dont think anyone anywhere has done what he says,
i havnt seen sense UI on android, but its lks amazing from the videos better than winMo sense UI (aka touch FLO 3D).
sense andoid vs sense winmo
I'm a winmo user and am not very familiar with andoid. It seems like sense on either improves the home screen.
I've been with Sprint for about 10 years, but considered leaving just to get the hd2 until they announced the evo.
I like the winmo sense today screen because of the slider (don't want to swipe multiple times to get where I want to be), but it looks like andoid might be a little more flexibe in that each screen can have shortcuts or widgets.
I don't like the look of shortcuts just plastered on the screen though and it seems like winmo has come further in the way of mods (more customization/sense tabs/titanium panels) and I've seen (but not yet used) some that 1.detach sense from windows so you can have the windows today screen and sense and 2.enable you to use windows plugins in a sense tab.
Before touchflo I used ultimate launch. It allows tabs that you can put shortcuts, plugins or widgets on and is very customizable. If it had a slider I think it would rule.
I'm hoping more android mods will come soon. I would love to have a slider on sense and more info on the home screen (calendar, missed calls, voicemails, emails, texts, tasks, some metrics) along with the time and weather.
I'm really just looking for the pros and cons even though I will be on android soon because I've been planning on replacing my mogul for a long time (wanted the tp2 then they announced the hd2 then they announced the evo) and the evo is just tooo good. I guess you gotta stop and get something somewhere even if the scorpion is going to be a phone.
I'm not sure if I'm wrong about anything here and would love to hear anyone's thoughts. I hope I'm not off topic as I think touchflo on android sense would be awesome (more screens/panels too although I hear that's a memory hog).
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
I would love to have the windows mobile sense as well, hope someone comes out with a theme for it.
G1BRICKED said:
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
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You know... If you're going to take that tone of text with people, and be a complete jerk in the process, it's usually a REALLY good idea to actually be right in what you claim.
Both the HTC Legend and Desire are also Android 2.1 devices, and both have the original Sense UI on which the current Windows version of it is based.
emmarbee said:
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
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The latest version of SenseUI, on Android 2.1 devices, is FAR superior to the limited Windows implementation of it (as far as I've seen of it, anyway). What specific functionality are you wanting?
As for the screen, I can see my Desire's screen quite well in sunlight, though if it's REALLY bright and directly on the screen, I might need to shade it with a hand. It's certainly better than backlit LCD displays are.
sense, android vs winmo
In what ways do feel sense on android is better than sense on winmo? Honestly looking for opinions. I'm a winmo user, but am switching to android for the Evo and am trying to learn about it. I like the slider on winmo and the all the new mods like the expanded and multiple page launcher and the swipe (once) to switch from appts to tasks.
I know on android you have 7 screens (i used to use ultimate launch with multiple screens), but I've begun to like minimal effort navigating (like using the touchflo slider) to get where I want. I think it might bother me to swipe three times to get to the screen I want. I know, I'm lazy.
Also, I know if I use the multiple page launcher on winmo I will be swiping multiple times, but I doubt I would have that many apps and I also like using touchlaunch (touch a letter and it scrolls there) mapped to a softkey.
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens, so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
Finally, some good info
FloatingFatMan said:
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens,
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
Kinda cool, but I'm not a big fan of that either as I like one handed operations. I feel like multitouch is overkill on a phone, but to each his own and it is a neat capability, just more complicated than a one swipe.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
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Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
you know, titanium was like sense on winmo, just ass backwards. You swiped/dragged up and down (the long way) to get to your widget (or panel) and then left and right in that panel.
I want the best of both worlds, windroid.
Manicmobileaddict said:
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
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The only limitation is on available screen real estate. Yes, there are full screen widgets available.
Manicmobileaddict said:
Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
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The problem with adding extra widgets in winmo Sense was that I just found a lot of them hack jobs and not very well put together; this is especially true for Titanium widgets. They often needed extra things to be installed such as MortScript just to do things like getting weather forecast; and in a lot of cases, involved having to hack DLL's to get decent levels of customization. They certainly weren't for the average user who just wanted some neat widgets.
I've been a WinMo user since Orange released their first HTC made Smartphone, the C100 or C200 I think it was? Years ago anyway. I've had an Android phone for 1.5 weeks now, and I'm not missing WinMo in the slightest.
wow
Thanks dune fan.
coming from a tp2 i can tell you about the comparisons.
Try the android sense. it appears different... but not really just adapted. On WM there is only one home screen, hence the tabs. but what are the tabs? home, email, contacts, programs, texts, internet....
well on android sense, like you said each screen is extremely customizable...
but stock sense has it organized just like windows mobile. each home screen is filled with a full page widget of... email, texts, social networking, news, weather etc just like wm. except it needs no hacks to change... if you dont li ke the 'tab' or homescreen... just throw it in the trash and load whatever you want.
So, since I loved Sense on my TP2... mine is set up like this. home screen has the exact weatherclock wm has, with a few shortcuts to most used programs. then one screen is texts, one screen is facebook which works aloooot better in android, one screen is a bunch of programs, one screen is emails. the rest I dont really use.
And the HTC keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the WM one, except it never lags, and word correction is easier but looks the same.
The Sense Dialer on Android is, to me, much superior. I hated the n1 dialer bc like Iphone your always scrolling through abc order to find a name. My new superphone took ten times as long to quickly call my friend. But when i loaded the Desire ROM on my n1, the dialer is now almost exactly like the WM one, except it has some more functionality built in.
Honestly I think HTC gave up on WM's Sense, and used it just to bring parity but spent most time developing the Android version. Try it. some people dislike it, but anyone who like the WM version, like me, will be instantly at home. It was like I bought an HD that never lagged or crashed.
I hate to tell this being the OP.
I don't feel like I want the WinMo Sense UI anymore. I was just obsessed with it. And after seeing many Android Sense UI, I feel like the android one's are more user friendly.
What's more shame one me (being a WinMo fanboy) is the fact that, after seeing the videos of Legend and Desire I kinda started liking Android 2.1. It all began with the Google Nexus One. Now HTC has perfect 2.1.
I very well realize that Android has a lottt of catching up to do, to where WinMo is now, but still
Now that I'm more inclined towards android 2.1, why should I go to a phone without Super AMOLED?
Everything is okay with I9000 Galaxy S. Except for few shortcomings...
A) It doesn't have SENSE UI. But I guess it won't be a problem. Won't you guys help me in porting senseUI to I9000?
B) It doesn't have flash. (What? No flash??)
C) The design looks awful. Both the hardware and software is a cheap replica of iphone - shame on Samsung.
If only there was a HTC phone with super AMOLED display, I can make a decison super quick!
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
emmarbee said:
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
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It's about as possible as running OSX software in Windows without the aid of emulation or virtualisation.
android sense is much better from hd2 sense. i talk you as winmo addicted
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