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XDA II and BMW Bluetooth connectivity

Hi, I am a new user so be gentle!
My XDA II is arriving middle of next week (just in time for xmas ) but i wondered if anyone can help me....
I have a BMW with Bluetooth phone setup in it. My previous phones, T65 3650 and T610 have all connected fine via bluetooth and from what i gather used a headset profile rather than a carkit one. I am not very technologically minded as you can probably guess. Does anyone know if this will be a problem in connecting the XDA II to the car? If so is there likely to be an upgrade to resolve the issue in the near future?
I looked for info on this topic but couldnt find anything do any help would be much appreciated
Thanks

XDA II pairs ok with BMW bluetooth but thats as far as it goes. New ROM upgrade promised in early 2004 may resolve this.

oh
fingers crossed the ROM updates work ok then.
Havent had a PDA since a Palm III several years ago. Really looking forward to seeing how much they have improved

I also am frustrated with the fact I cant use the bluetooth on my BMW - does anyone know what the actual issue is does this serial patch have anything to do with it?

Is the headset profile different to the Hansfree profile?

steve said:
Is the headset profile different to the Handsfree profile?
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Join the club........
The headset profile and the handsfree are different, headset mimics a standard wired headset, ie accept call, terminate call and thats about it.
The handsfree has a lot more features such as transfering the number lists. BMW have chosen the handsfree, and XDA doesnt have it yet. The serial fix wont do anything as its not the problem in this case.
I guess we will just have to wait and hope. I'm a little concerned that the BMW system may not comply with the standards, so it may not work even with the correct bluetooth profile.
Sorry its not good news, Towa is working on the handsfree profile, might have something early in the new year, lets hope he can figure it out.
Cheers
Jon

bluetooth headsets do not work correclty with the XDA2

I have an email from O2 saying they are aware of the issues with blue tooth headsets
The Email started by saying the BT200 is approved for the XDA2
I then sent a email asking for an approval cert stating this is the case.
I know all Blue tooth headset are not compatable with XDA2
I have tested 5 manufactures and they all do the same thing
If the bluetooth headset is used when phone is on a desk the coverage is quite good.
Problem Is when you put the XDA2 in your pocket the coverage is crap it sound like a old fm radio station and you get poor audio quality both ways incoming and outgoing.
I will paste a copy of email from O2 below
Anybody else had any problems like this??
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Thank you for your email and apologies for the inconveniences you are experiencing.
This is indeed something we are aware of, and we too believe it is a problem with the device itself. We are currently liasing with the XDA manufacturers to try and resolve these issues, but I hope you can appreciate something like this is not going to be a quick fix.
I'm not sure if it will resolve the actual issues you are facing, but we are also releasing a ROM upgrade for the XDA II in feb/March (from www.my-xda.com) which should greatly improve the Bluetooth facility, which also includes scope for the handsfree functionality.
I appreciate that this is not the answer you were hoping for, but we are working to resolve these issues.
Kind regards
O2 Data Support
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:idea: What do we do
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I have a SOny Ericsson HBH-35
The first one I bought wouldn't work at all with the XDAII - I though 'oh know', assuming it was the XDAII at fault.
I returned the headset - the shop tested it and found it to be faulty. Gave me a new one to try.
Works perfectly !

Bluetooth
Does it work in your back pocket ok
I tried one it did the same as the Bt200 but not as bad

Xda 2 bluetooth headset
HIIII
I have the Nokia HS-3W bluetooth headset for the Xda 2 and it works the treat....I have tried many other bluetooth headsets and this one is the best one by far. Hope this information will be helpful... :lol:

Bluetooth and FM Radio died!!

I don't know why. My device was with the same configuration everytime and suddenly, the FM Radio stopped working.
It doesn't scan stations and it's impossible to search, while yesterday it did perfectly.
I also noticed that bluetooth actively refuses to start. When I try to enable it, the system appears to consume a lot of CPU and the wait animation remains there for some seconds. Then it disappears and the bluetooth indicator doesn't change. So it's always off.
I have switched from radio 1.58.25.14 to 1.58.23.21 and changed the OS ROM from bepe 0.58 to Black Widow and I have bepe's again.
I'm very upset because one of the features I use more is the FM radio. I can't imagine that my device is broken, and that the radio unit has a hardware failure
I bought it in the UK and I'm from Spain. In case of having to repair it, I will have to move the earth! So I hope that somebody has a solution for this disgusting situation...
:S

PB of BT tooo
SuperJMN said:
I don't know why. My device was with the same configuration everytime and suddenly, the FM Radio stopped working.
It doesn't scan stations and it's impossible to search, while yesterday it did perfectly.
I also noticed that bluetooth actively refuses to start. When I try to enable it, the system appears to consume a lot of CPU and the wait animation remains there for some seconds. Then it disappears and the bluetooth indicator doesn't change. So it's always off.
I have switched from radio 1.58.25.14 to 1.58.23.21 and changed the OS ROM from bepe 0.58 to Black Widow and I have bepe's again.
I'm very upset because one of the features I use more is the FM radio. I can't imagine that my device is broken, and that the radio unit has a hardware failure
I bought it in the UK and I'm from Spain. In case of having to repair it, I will have to move the earth! So I hope that somebody has a solution for this disgusting situation...
:S
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Hi
Im in the same situation. Ive try many different flash with rom and radio but no positiv result. I dont have tested origin flash with spl and rom vodafone. Im so afraid of sending back the phone to htc. I cant wait
good luck ! (I dont use the radio so i dont know if it works...)
nooms 061 bepe

The longer I watch this situation the longer it seems to me, that flashing Radio 1.58.25.14 destroys your Bluetooth and FM-Radio unit. I don't know how, I suppose has something to do with routing too much power or god knows how, but more and more people which once flashed Radio 1.58.25.14 complain of broken Bluetooth and FM-Radio units...

Same here and Original ROM
I am using the original ROM and my BT is broken. I've hard reset and still the same.
Ohhhhhhh HTC.
The each new device, on step back in quality.
Has anybody figured out when the MEIZU M8 will launch?
-Feaps

I have an HTC Touch Cruise. Bluetooth and FM Radio was working, and at some point it stopped.
The device has the original ROM -- no hacks.
I used this successfully: http://esl.sun.ac.za/keyboard/
This required the installation of the .NET 2.0 framework.
Sometime after both the Bluetooth and Radio stopped working. I doubt it has to do specifically with the custom keyboard driver. The problem does not seem to be isolated to any ROM (e.g., 1.58.25.14) , although perhaps the ROM can aggravate whatever it is that breaks the FM and bluetooth.
Perhaps those who have experienced this problem could post exactly what they used the bluetooth for, what they installed (if anything), the state of the device as best they remember before and after the failure, etc?
BTW, I have a support ticket with HTC -- they told me to contact their RMA.

thethirdhalf said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise. Bluetooth and FM Radio was working, and at some point it stopped.
The device has the original ROM -- no hacks.
I used this successfully: http://esl.sun.ac.za/keyboard/
This required the installation of the .NET 2.0 framework.
Sometime after both the Bluetooth and Radio stopped working. I doubt it has to do specifically with the custom keyboard driver. The problem does not seem to be isolated to any ROM (e.g., 1.58.25.14) , although perhaps the ROM can aggravate whatever it is that breaks the FM and bluetooth.
Perhaps those who have experienced this problem could post exactly what they used the bluetooth for, what they installed (if anything), the state of the device as best they remember before and after the failure, etc?
BTW, I have a support ticket with HTC -- they told me to contact their RMA.
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Before getting broken I had a strange failure when I was sending a picture with my Polaris. The other device received the picture, but when I checked it I saw that only the first half of it was rendered. The rest was corrupted on the screen.
While the trasfer was being made, I remember that I saw an error, but I don't know what it said.
BT worked for some days after this.
The FM radio used to work, but I noticed that, from time to time, it didn't start. I had to re-scan to make it work.
I sent it to the Technical Support and I received it yesterday, but... THEY DIDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, so I'm really upset. I sent a complain to them and published a post in my weblog for everybody to know how the HTC customer support works in Spain.
I hope that somebody could find a software solution for this ANNOYING issue.

PB of BT,
Hi,
Your experience is very worrying !!! I was thinking to send my polaris to HTC very soon, but Im not so sure of doing it now !
Please tell us every new info about this.
thank you !
nooms
Aserg 3
radio 164...
Sfr Illimythics

Hi,
My Cruise has the same problems. At the begining, internal phone speaker don´t works sometimes and now, no Bluetooth and no radio with original ROM and without any change.
Today i have sent it to HTC.
This problem is becoming usual........
Regards from Spain.

Radio Died too
Hmmm,
I've just been away on business and half way through the week, the radio on my O2 Orbit2 died as well.
The radio turns on but can't find any channels when scanning, just giving a shash sound and you can't even dial in a frequency - nothing.
At the same time it also appeared to partially corrupt my sd card as I couldn't use media player to play any music tracks.
After a hard reset when I got home and reformatting the sd card, I can play music once more but the radio is dead.
It's not the end of the world but I did enjoy listening to the radio. I think I'll mail O2 and see what they have to say.

Cruise Problems
I've had mine now since mid March and all (touch wood) is working well. I find that a lot of post throughout this board indicate hardware problems after doing ROM upgrades. Personally, I'm from the old school of thought that states, if it ain't broke then don't fix. I now that people like to experiment with ROM changes etc., But I feel, that once you do that, you irrevocably change the phone's condition, even if you switch back to the original ROMs. Having said all this, I admit that I'm no expert, so take what I say, with a grain of salt, so to speak.
Kidcom

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kidcom said:
(...)a lot of post throughout this board indicate hardware problems after doing ROM upgrades.(...)
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Well, Kidcom, the problem is there are lots of people also telling that no ROM upgrade was done and their phones also got messed up.
I wonder if the recent production units are also having faulty units. I have a reply from HTC to contact support and get an RMA, but I am in Brazil and I feel like the local HTC comes out with the local Cruise so that I can get a local RMA rather than shipping it overseas (which is a pain in the neck paperwork with Customs).
Did anyone find out a fix for that or is it a real faulty batch that reaquires manufacturing intervention?
Best,
-Feaps

The bluetooth/FM-radio/headset hardware problem exists since the beginning of HTC Touch Cruise. See, for instance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383280&page=7
Thus, the problem is proved to be the motherboard hardware design mistake.
Once happened, there is no software fix (including recent "hot" fixes by HTC) to the problem. Most devices experience that in just few months (four in my case) after purchase. However, HTC provides no reply (at least to me) and denies to call back the devices.

Same problem on my Touch HD

HTC Cruise Radio FM-Bluetooth-Read M.Cards K.O.!!!
I have the same problem after 10 days of the buying!!!
But in addition to the FM Radio-Bluetooth,doesn't read most Memory Cards.
Send to HTC for replace the motheboard.
Very,very good!!!
sorry for my English

Assistance HTC
Received today (Replaced Motherboard)
I am very happy for the time to repair and the result (Perfect), I can only applaud the Assistance HTC "although initially I was doubtful."
nicsarnero said:
I have the same problem after 10 days of the buying!!!
But in addition to the FM Radio-Bluetooth,doesn't read most Memory Cards.
Send to HTC for replace the motheboard.
Very,very good!!!
sorry for my English
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Bluetooth disconnect after hangup

Have a weird problem and i think it can fixed by some registry.
the bluetooth will disconnect each time with my headsfree after hang up call. only either i press headsfree button to re-estabish or restart bluetooth to get it hook up again.
Does anyone has similar experience ?

Bluetooth disconnect
I've had this problem with my Sprint Touch Pro since I've had it...running stock ROM or Merdin's ROM. Very frustrating...using Motorola HF820 in the car and AT&T EP5632 (BT/Landline phone)...same thing.
I think there's a registry entry for bluetooth polling or something that can be set, but I've yet to find it. There was a post indicating that Diamond TF3D Config had a Bluetooth "tweak" that might solve the problem...but I get an error message when I run it.

JLPDA, Can you send me the tread that talk about this tweak, i wanna take a look see has anything we can do about.

Same problem: Touch Pro with Parrot MK6000 handsfree. I notice though that the phone reconnects after a minute or so. Previous Tytn did not have this problem.

Any news on this? I have the same problem with my Touch HD and Mk6000

Prehapes we have to generate alot of post to make people make attention to us .....

flippy_tv said:
Prehapes we have to generate alot of post to make people make attention to us .....
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Maybe we should flood Parrot with requests for a fix... It should be easy for them.. my previous kit (MK3000) worked flawlessly...
just "copy and paste" from MK3000 parrot engineers!!!!

OTOH, my Jasjam (HTC Tytn) worked fine with my MK6000, while my current Touch Pro has this problem.
I was unable to find anything on the Parrot forums...

I wrote a message to the technical support page on Parrot's web site... let's see what happens...

Parrot's tech support told me that the HTC Touch HD is not currently suopported!!

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Parrot's tech support told me that the HTC Touch HD is not currently suopported!!
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Seems like nothing is supported on this POS. Out of six phones I have had the only ones that seemed to work with the MK6000 without problem was the Blackberry Storm which is the only good thing I have to say about that phone. It seems moronic that people should have to go through different phones to make their "Accessory" work. Parrot needs to get a clue. I know I'll be voting with my dollars elsware.
I can confirm, it will work as a stereo adaptor with the Touch Pro 2 but hangs up phone calls in the first second or two on the handsfree.
For Sale: One Parrot MK6000 stereo A2DP car kit, slightly used.

And I thought Bluetooth was supposed to be a standard...
I hate bluetooth!!!

What do you know... my parrot MK6000 now works just fine with my new HTC LEO...
Maybe it's because the LEO uses Broadcomm's bluetooth stack instead of the Microsoft's one... who knows...

JLPDA said:
I've had this problem with my Sprint Touch Pro since I've had it...running stock ROM or Merdin's ROM. Very frustrating...using Motorola HF820 in the car and AT&T EP5632 (BT/Landline phone)...same thing.
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I also have the AT&T EP5632 and this happens. Does not happen on my Plantronics or Motorola earpieces though.
At one point, I thought I was having better luck with a DaG barebones rom. I like TF3D too much though...

[Q] Route Call Through Headphone Jack

I have tried searching for the solution to my problem with no luck.
I have a rooted Inspire 4G. With the stock radio and ROM, whenever I had my headphones or my 3.5mm audio cable plugged into my phone, I could use the headphones or my vehicle's speakers for phone calls (like bluetooth). I also could hear my notification sounds (text, email) through the headphones or speakers as well. Since I have rooted my phone and changed radios and ROMs, I no longer have this capability - the calls and notifications go through the crappy phone speakers. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem or noticed the difference.
FYI - I have checked the call settings (Settings->Call) and nothing helps. I have read about HAC/TTY settings from the stock ROM/radio, but these options don't show up in the Rom I am using. I was wondering if maybe those settings made the difference and if there was a ROM or a mod that can access those settings.
Any help or direction would be appreciated.

I've flashed many many roms and have never encountered that problem. By default, it should automatically switch to headphones once you plug in the jack.
I would suggest flashing a different rom ...such as the BB Mod rom or Absolution (both are aosp roms).
Or if you prefer the stock look with sense, try Cleardroid.
I believe any of these will solve your problems ...unless its maybe hardware related (bad jack) ?
If you decide to switch & try another rom...don't forget to wipe, so you can get started fresh.
Good Luck to you.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

Yea I've flashed plenty as well and I've never run into this problem. Sounds are routed to whatever is plugged into 3.5 jack

Dinman said:
I've flashed many many roms and have never encountered that problem. By default, it should automatically switch to headphones once you plug in the jack.
I would suggest flashing a different rom ...such as the BB Mod rom or Absolution (both are aosp roms).
Or if you prefer the stock look with sense, try Cleardroid.
I believe any of these will solve your problems ...unless its maybe hardware related (bad jack) ?
If you decide to switch & try another rom...don't forget to wipe, so you can get started fresh.
Good Luck to you.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
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homeslice976 said:
Yea I've flashed plenty as well and I've never run into this problem. Sounds are routed to whatever is plugged into 3.5 jack
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Most likely is an issue with the ROMs because after I posted this, I flashed the Revolution HD 6.1.5 ROM (w/ the 12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M radio) and the notification/call sound is heard through the 3.5mm jack as in the stock ROM/radio. Previously I was using the CoreDroid 8.1 and GB 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROMs with two different radios (12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and 12.59.60.26P_26.11.04.21_M).
So I can't exactly pinpoint what the cause was because I (stupidly) changed two items - though I could reflash one or the other with the new radio and see if that made a difference - but I would bank on the ROMs being the problem since the both of you have not experienced this problem with the ROMs you use.
Thank you both for your input.

Radio would have no effect on this. Sometimes you just have a bad installation. This is why myself and others always make sure people know how to properly wipe their phones and then tell them to re install before validating a problem as an actual bug.

Gizmoe said:
Radio would have no effect on this. Sometimes you just have a bad installation. This is why myself and others always make sure people know how to properly wipe their phones and then tell them to re install before validating a problem as an actual bug.
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Gizmoe, I understand that there are a lot of people who don't research and don't follow directions when flashing ROMs, so I can understand the tone of your comment. I actually do a full wipe every time I flash a ROM, upgrade or not. And before I posted this, I tried reinstalling and researching the problem. I admit that I am new to all this, so it was more of a lack of knowledge about how ROMs and radios work than ignorance because I try searching out the answer before posting.
Anyhow, I did determine the cause of my problem, and it was not ROM-related. It's actually my setup in my truck. Because I don't have an aux jack, I have to use an FM transmitter. My previous transmitter died a couple of weeks back, and I got a new (presumably better) one. I can adjust it between stereo and mono, and I had it on mono because of interference/static issues.
As I found out yesterday, having it on mono plugged into my phone, it will only transmit music and navigation to my stereo. Phone calls and notification sounds don't get transmitted. However, when I switch it to stereo, all sounds get transmitted to my stereo.
So problem solved - non ROM issue. Somewhat user error issue.

I wasn't doggin on ya . Although I can see how it could be read that way. It was late and I was responding to many threads. It was just a general statement to anyone reading, cause people have been getting fussy when I ask to clarify their install process so I can get the whole picture of exactly what they are doing. People seem so sure its a bug when in fact it was something they did wrong. Though that is not the case here and I can tell you get it a lot better than most people.