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T-mobile ROM or HTC ROM plus other questions!

Hi all i have been using pda phones for a long time and have followed this website for quite a while...
I have an obsession for these kind of phones...so today i upgraded my phone from vario to the new vario 3.
One of the first things i plan to do is flash the ROM/Radio (not to good with the terminology).
i was wondering what people think of the t-mobile rom ENG or any other versions of it and whether i would be better off using the original htc one...i wasnt really fond of the rom for the vario.
also i havent flashed a phone in a long long time (last time was for my mda compact which was nearly 2/3 years ago!)..so i wanted to ask is there anything i should know? i have been reading the threads and i wanted to know which version of the hard spl should i use because there are several different stickies with difference hard spl
Can you update the radio serparatly from the rom? or can you do them both at the same time? and also which radio and rom would you recommend?
and also where can i learn to understand what exactly rom/radio/ext rom are exactly..i have a respectable idea of what they are but jus wanna make sure i know what im doing before i do it..
and also what does dumping a rom do?
thanks for your help
sorry if these questions have already been asked!

slachanah said:
One of the first things i plan to do is flash the ROM/Radio
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Why?
slachanah said:
i was wondering what people think of the t-mobile rom ENG
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I've got no problems with it, actually. Sure, there's a few tweaks need installing, but I don't think there's anything serious enough to risk changing the ROM for - the device hasn't been out long enough for people to make any significant additions to it and as far as I know, there aren't any official upgrades out yet.
I've stuck the MoDaCo Vario III de-brand on, to change the icons back to sensible colours, then picked up other tweaks from this site and MoDaCo.
Easier than a ROM flash, reversible, and risk-free.
Before you rush off and flash a new ROM, ask yourself what you're actually trying to accomplish.

Mr.Clark said:
Why?
I've got no problems with it, actually. Sure, there's a few tweaks need installing, but I don't think there's anything serious enough to risk changing the ROM for - the device hasn't been out long enough for people to make any significant additions to it and as far as I know, there aren't any official upgrades out yet.
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Well i have read one of the threads that the htc rom does leave u more space and does run slightly quicker..
Mr.Clark said:
I've stuck the MoDaCo Vario III de-brand on, to change the icons back to sensible colours, then picked up other tweaks from this site and MoDaCo.
Easier than a ROM flash, reversible, and risk-free.
Before you rush off and flash a new ROM, ask yourself what you're actually trying to accomplish.
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Any particular tweaks that you would recommend here or the modaco website?
was trying to get rid of some of the bloatware that i didnt want that t-mobile provides..but i will take ur advice and not rush into it..will wait for a month or two before i start prying around...
plus the skin/today/theme/front page (dont know what it is but it surely has to be one of those) of the htc rom and orange rom looks cool!
do you know where i can get that from?
i.e. these ones htc
(http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2007/08/10/HTC-P4550-Kaiser-Smartphone/p3)
and orange (where it says software)
(http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/07/htc_tytn_ii_review)
ps thanks for ur help and advice
im at work so it wont let me check the modaco website...but i will check it out when i get home

The T-Mobile ROM is about as near to the HTC one as an operator ROM is ever likely to get. The only piece of un-needed bloat was a trial version of F-Prot Antivirus; which takes a few seconds to uninstall. Even de-branding it is a pretty short job, as for once they haven't splashed pink everywhere.

The VarioIII rom from t-mob is actually very good... been using it for a few weeks, and feel no need to flash the 'proper' htc one...
tmob seem to have learnt to leave well alone... finally
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ripnetuk said:
The VarioIII rom from t-mob is actually very good... been using it for a few weeks, and feel no need to flash the 'proper' htc one...
tmob seem to have learnt to leave well alone... finally
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cheers for ur advise u guys
any tweaks in particular u would recommend i have seen the scha'p's advanced configuration tool im gonna use that...anything else?

The first tweak I'd recommend is Paul's Debrand that I mentioned in my previous post. Gets rid of a lot of the pink and switches back to nice Windows colours.
The Trusted Mobiles picture looks like it's using the Windows Default theme.
If you tap Start, Settings, Today then Windows Default, hit OK and return to the Today screen. Should look pretty similar.
Go back to that page again and tap the Items tab at the bottom. The giant widget with the clock is the HTC Home plugin. All I've got on my Today screen are that (modified) and the Calendar.
To modify the HTC Home plugin, head over to http://www.pocketemu.com/hhc-info.html and download the HTC Home Customizer. This is a fantastic app. Poke around the site, find the themes you want, then download, install and configure it.
The other biggie you'll want is the Kaiser Tweak. Have a read through that thread, but it's fairly self explanatory once you run it.
That should give you a start, anyway. Enjoy!

To ROM of not to ROM...

I have an AT&T Tilt (had it almost 2yrs) running the WM 6.1. I called HTC the other day about an update to 6.5. The technician said there was not one and that the Tilt was near end of life and that there not going to be anymore updates. If that is the case, I'm thinking of flashing a new ROM. Can anyone give any advice on what one I should use. I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.

Well, sadly there is no ROM called as good ROM here. It all depends on what you use your phone for and where you live!
Try reading through ROM threads, and see what suits your needs. Best advise is "Keep reading and keep flashing!". Good luck.

try abusalza new ver. cook ROM either ultimate x2v8 wm6.5 or ultimate x2v9 wm6.5...
it look nice to my kaiser n run perfectly...

StoneyBK said:
I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.
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Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.

hahaha..can't wait for wm7..

denco7 said:
Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.
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I would stick with what this guy says. Any rom you use besides stock is going to give you fits of frustration the only reason I kept flashing was for my data and internet I was not happy with the offerings of stock att rom but grew very frustrated with most of the cooked roms If I had found opera mini before all those other roms I might not have had the need to keep flashing. I have since found Android and the only time I see windows is when I am doing an update to Android. If what you have now suits you then keep it.

denco7 said:
Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.
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I would stick with what this guy says. Any rom you use besides stock is going to give you fits of frustration the only reason I kept flashing was for my data and internet I was not happy with the offerings of stock att rom but grew very frustrated with most of the cooked roms If I had found opera mini before all those other roms I might not have had the need to keep flashing. I have since found Android and the only time I see windows is when I am doing an update to Android. If what you have now suits you then keep it.
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I'm gonna say exactly the same if you happy with stock stick with it, if you want something more special and are happy to flash untill you find a custom ROM you want then join the flashers anonymous

I'ld go to say the same, if you're happy with stock ROM, then don't change.
BUT...
If you're frustrated with what stock ROM gives you (that happened with my permanently-freezing-Herald-stck-ROM till I flashed a good ROM there), then take a surf on the ROM Kaiser pages here at xda-dev's and then try to do all the steps ( hard-SPL, radio mod's, unlock if locked, etc. ) and then, flash the ROM you think is better for you (what are you asking to a device ? I'm using it to write, calculate, draw, sketching, photo, wifi nav', gps in the forest, let my daughter play... - maybe I'ld chose a different ROM to play games or watch videos)
I think almost every ROM here is "better" than the stock ROM and you'll find a good WM6.5 if you're searching speed, reliability, good RAM... and this will give you a loooooong Kaiser life.
But, as Denco7 says, this means you are always asking "more" and more and more.

StoneyBK said:
I have an AT&T Tilt (had it almost 2yrs) running the WM 6.1. I called HTC the other day about an update to 6.5. The technician said there was not one and that the Tilt was near end of life and that there not going to be anymore updates. If that is the case, I'm thinking of flashing a new ROM. Can anyone give any advice on what one I should use. I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.
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I HIGHLY recommend that you go here and read.

Don't do it!

Ok, thanks...
...for the advice. I'll stay with what I have its worked for me and does what i want/need.

StoneyBK
Make backup and give yourself a try with new rom`s. if you dislike - you always can return to were your begin. I believe you underestimate this possibility of kaiser.

Go for it!
I was in the same place you are, wondering if I should flash, and why. But, If I'm going to spend this much time with a device, why not pretty it up and make it a LOT more functional. The new 6.5 roms are beautiful, more functional, and easier to use, especially compared to the butt ugly 6.1, and if you're not going to buy a new device with WM7 on it then I say flash away man, you can get so much more out of your Kaiser. Have a look at TPC Elite V9. Enjoy.

StoneyBK and Marckc2
Yes, having a stock ROM capable for your needs, is enough. But if you begin to flash, and to investigate, you'll maybe acquire more and more acknowledgement about the TyTNII and WM, so that you'll be here answering and maybe cooking (and posting) your own ROMs.

Amazing work being done
It depends on what you want. I picked up my Tilt on ebay, because I wanted a PDA/phone (w/wifi). I'm a little bit of a tweaker, and wanted to make the most of this phone. I ended up here, read throught the newbie stuff, worked up the steam to flash a hard SPL, then flashed Sakajati's Hyper IV Rhodium, and was amazed; fast, functional, stable, with some flash as well. The only problem is being content. . . the developments keep ramping up. I think my tilt is farther advanced than most smart phones currently offered on ATT's upgrades. (maybe ignorance is bliss. . but I don't think so) There appear to be a number of chefs doing amazing work. Look around, read the comments. If you take the next step and like it . . . buy the chef some coffee. . .

do i need a new ROM for m2d on my vogue??

ive been trying to put some cool stuff on my verizon xv6900(htc vogue) like throttle launcher and Manila 2D, but it makes my phone slower and freezes a lot, i dont know if its in the way i install it or not but i was wondering if i need a new rom to make it work better. and i was also wondering what other good software is there like manila 2d to use.

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ive been trying to put some cool stuff on my verizon xv6900(htc vogue) like throttle launcher and Manila 2D, but it makes my phone slower and freezes a lot, i dont know if its in the way i install it or not but i was wondering if i need a new rom to make it work better.
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hey there,
what rom are you using now?

the stock one that came with the phone on the phone it says rom version 3.14.605.1 and im using windows mobile 6.1. thanks for replying so quick

BLACKE30 said:
the stock one that came with the phone on the phone it says rom version 3.14.605.1 and im using windows mobile 6.1. thanks for replying so quick
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Hey there,
Kool no probs, the vogue is a reasonably old device and as such doesnt have a huge amount of memory.
Running the apps you mention will use a lot of memory esp if you have some other apps open.
If i were you, i would wonder over to the vogue section, do some reading to understand how to flash a cooked rom on ur fone.
Using a cooked lite rom will release some memory and will depending on the rom will give u a much newer interface to use, rather than the old touchflo.
Just make sure you do a bit of reading first so u dont end up bricking ur device
Greetz and have fun.

i have researched a lot about putting roms in phones but im still not confident enough and worried about bricking it, i wish there was a video on this website b/c ive seen only one on the internet and it wasnt too specific.
One last question what else can i do if i decide not to take the risk with the rom is there other software? i know that htc home coustimzer is one option.
sorry but forgot i got one more question, if i put a micro sd memory card would that also solve the proglem?

BLACKE30 said:
i have researched a lot about putting roms in phones but im still not confident enough and worried about bricking it, i wish there was a video on this website b/c ive seen only one on the internet and it wasnt too specific.
One last question what else can i do if i decide not to take the risk with the rom is there other software? i know that htc home coustimzer is one option.
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Yes u can use that to change the appearance of htc home, you can do quite a lot with that, like colours etc.
If you delve into ur device a little, you can find the pic files for the clock and change them so they look like the touchflo3d clock (just wont flip)
Dont worry, spend your time reading, it is acutally quite simple to hardspl and flash, just the first time is kinda scary lol.

okay man thanks a lot.

Are you a flashaholic?

How often do you flash your phone?
For me, its everytime a new version of the rom i use gets released.

Off topic
Thanks to XDA is that I´m still loving WM!
If not I´m sure I moved to another platform
I have flashed so many times I don´t even remember

I usually flash when I get bored, or the ROM starts slowing down. Or whenever I flash my own ROM, I realize it is awful and go straight to xda for a new one

Been hooked for years But now I'm flashing on Android thanks to xda!

I've lost count as well. But the thing is I find myself instinctively returning to certain roms, even if it is a much earlier rom. It's like they have a personality of their own. ( I hope I don't sound too wierd here ... plus I have a life).
You also become an expert on how fast you can get all your software and themes up and running should the new rom rain on your expectations. It's like a pit stop in F1.

I started flashing about a week ago, and I tried 3 custom ROMs from XDA.
Im gonna try cooking a custom ROM myself soon too, because I have very specific requirements for my ROM
However, I'm NEVER going back to my original 6.1 ROM. 6.5.3 is the way to go, even though I can't use my old manilla themes anymore.
Everything improved by an awful lot.
Also, i think this post is a good moment to say thanks to all the chefs that create custom roms for us!

i only started flashing roms the other day, i was doing one a day but have settled on one that seems to be holding my battery a lot longer than the others i used so im gonna stick with this one (xannytech's EVOLUTION 1.1)!
also love this site and the "USE THE SEARCH" mentality, its awesome.

I don't have a *twitch* problem. I merely *twitch* need my *twitch* fix. I can *twitch* stop anytime, *twitch* do you have some*twitch*thing for me *twitch* to flash? *twitch**twitch*

Well to be honest I'm not sure how many roms I've flashed. I know its hundreds!!
I've 2 devices so I have one for everyday use and one for testing/flashing. As a mod I like to know what I'm talking about so I tend to flash nearly every rom which comes out for my device (HD). I'm flashing daily . However as more and more chefs have appeared this has become more combersome so I try and limit this to 3-6 chefs unless something really catches my eye (new build etc). So I'm only flashing when one of these chefs release a new rom.....which still seems to be daily or every other day...lol . Then I choose my preferred rom and flash it onto my everyday use device
Rick
JAguirre1231 said:
I don't have a *twitch* problem. I merely *twitch* need my *twitch* fix. I can *twitch* stop anytime, *twitch* do you have some*twitch*thing for me *twitch* to flash? *twitch**twitch*
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lol, very good.....though I would get that *twitch* sorted out very soon......think I heard another rom was released!!!

for me, it depends on how much time i have, and if the new version of the rom has stuff that i am really interested in. otherwise, i'd just skip the update

There is no way to compehend how many times have flashed... Excalibur tryed all ROMs made joint project ROM every minor tweak a flash, Kaiser same deal yet now lives with stylez black v.5 once you have a ROM on there that is to your preference then flashing another isn't a necesitty, now using Touch Pro flashed the ROMs that take my fancy now back in Kitchen... Flashing aboit 2 x a day as need phone set up.
Spelling whack just had a surge and net not working used to inline spellcheck
So yes i still have the bug but not as bad as used too lol

stylez said:
So yes i still have the bug but not as bad as used too lol
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I think constant flashing soon starts to ware you out. People have other committments as well which can eat up time. I've a family so my time is limited, but when I can I still flash, tweak and play. With time the bug does start to decrease, but only a little bit

I am definitely a flash junkie. Not a week goes by and im flashing another ROM. No other platform so far is this hackable\customisable\tweakable.....you get the point.

i flash mine everytime nrgz28 comes out with a new rom. he makes the best in my opinion. i also try others but i always find myself going back to energy roms!!!

New User - HTC HD2

Hey all.... I'm new to the forums and am looking to get basic info and helpful tips with my new phone. I recently purchased the Tmobile - HTC HD2 - kinda dissapointed because after not looking to much into it I realized its not android compatible which kinda sux... was looking forward to the apps and such.... but anyways, I've been looking into the different stuffs you guys have found for this phone and was wondering if you could point in the direction of some good beginner threads explaining how to access and unlock different things on this phone... any helpful tips or threads would be great. Thanks guys...

Welcome to forums
After you tweak and flash with an XDA custom ROM you won´t need/want Android
Have a look on the Wiki and in Leo section, where you can find all you need to have fun with your HTC device!
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

Actually, the Leo section is for a different version of the HD2 (Eurpoean).
You need to go to the Tmobile HD2 section, located here

suxxxxx
Phone is pissing me off... started sticking this weekend... its within my 14 days.. Should I just get the Iphone and call it a day ??? Is it really worth the flash this and flash that ??

RGV_HD2 said:
Phone is pissing me off... started sticking this weekend... its within my 14 days.. Should I just get the Iphone and call it a day ??? Is it really worth the flash this and flash that ??
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i dont get it..why people look at htc hd 2 and they like ooh i want one. so they bought an htc hd 2 then hate it. thats really pathetic. yes flash a rom! energy is stable and nice.
before do flash a rom, hardspl then flash a task29 and flash the enegry rom. if u like it, then choose radio which is best for ur location and battery life.
oh yea, IPHONE SUCKS!