[REQUEST] A better landscape typing experience - Nexus One Themes and Apps

Okay folks. I am wondering what you guys think about this. I hate to compare to the iPhone....again but there something that I am missing a little bit but not enough to make me jump ship...OBVIOUSLY! Anyway take a look at what I did with Paint.
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now the point of this is to make the conversation more....fluid. when im in the stock mode, picture 2, i just feel so disconnected from the conversation. i use google talk, i dubbed it GGM (Google Gmail Talk) just so it sounds as cool as BBM, and when im typing in landscape I cant even see what the other person wrote unless i exit the keyboard. again, this just takes me out of the whole experience. now some might say that the screen is too cramped with this option, others, like myself, say its not that bad and its probably worth it. and perhaps to satisfy both parties, maybe we can implement a double tap feature which will go back to stock mode. honestly, i have no clue if this is even possible but your inputs would be nice.
check out this thread: this guy actually did it but its kinda rough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672435

I like where you are going with this idea maybe you should pm the dev of the HTC IME mod

I type in portrait 99.999% of the time for this reason. I hate getting an IM/text from someone and not being able to see it without exiting the app.
I like what you did by not taking away from the kb size any, but from the HUGE area they give the text space. The text doesn't need that much room IMO. I hope this can be addressed and something better can from it.

I have to say, I dont like it....had it on my last device and it feels to tight, to small, I prefer to rotate my the device and enjoy the big field to type.

The only time I could really see myself needing to use the stock setup would when writing long responses in a forum. for example, before XDA had an app I would respond to threads using the standard view from the browser in landscape. this nicely moved all the other unnecessary stuff and made quoting someone very clean and easy.
Ayman

I think landscape typing is horrendous on android..I'd love to see it fixed. I'm a landscape lover but usually I stick to portrait for the KB.

I like where you are going with this idea maybe you should pm the dev of the HTC IME mod
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I wonder if this is really something within the actually keyboard. I thought it was a framework issue, granted tho, I don't know much about that subject. is there anyone out there willing to make this happen?

The easiest solution to this problem is to use Swype, which works better in portrait view, and still type fast.

The easiest solution to this problem is to use Swype, which works better in portrait view, and still type fast.
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how the heck is that a solution? did you even read the post?

I can't believe google decided that the keyboard and input box should take up the whole screen... sure hope somebody finds a way to do this! or at least make the text box slightly transparent or something

PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU TO MAKE THIS
i hate how the text box takes up the whole top of the screen i would like to see the last msg that was sent
i hate iphones 2 but they have some good ideas
please

I don't like the way the landscape keyboard takes up the whole screen and covers all the previous msgs/ content. I would love to see this solution implemented or a previous suggestion where the text input area was transparent.

maybe this will he seen by more devs if it was in the development section. is it in the right section?
I have emailed jonasl, hopefully he will email me back.

any development on this yet

ya I doubt this will get developed unless we start spreading the word more. if we can get a dev to see this than maybe we can get somewhere. start tweeting it and it might catch someone's eye.
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+100
would love to see this happen!

ayman07 said:
ya I doubt this will get developed unless we start spreading the word more. if we can get a dev to see this than maybe we can get somewhere. start tweeting it and it might catch someone's eye.
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Perhaps send Jonasi a PM. he is the keyboard master

ya i did email him but he didnt respond. ill try a PM next.
PM sent. lets hope for a reply.
alright folk, i just had a lil chat with Chris Soyars (the dev who worked with cyanogen on stuff like the cool App2SD feature and who created NexusMod Live) and he says this is wayyyy to complicated. My predictions were correct, this is not something that is found within the HTC_IME or any other keyboard, its something within the framework. He admitted to me that he wouldnt even know where to start! Guess I got a lil over zealous with my request. He is really busy so he cant work on this but he said its all about finding the dev who is willing to put the time in.
with that said, i still think it can be done!! lol we just need the right person.

Hi,
I think you should read android-developers.blogspot.c0m/2009/04/updating-applications-for-on-screen Much of the problem lies not in the keyboard, but in how the applications interact with the keyboard.
Google's algorithm makes sense, but many applications don't specify their input mode, so the keyboards do the best they can.
Different combinations of Keyboards/Applications will yield different results. If you don't like what you have, tell the developer, or change keyboard and/or application.
Cheers!
-I_Artist

I_Artist said:
Hi,
I think you should read android-developers.blogspot.c0m/2009/04/updating-applications-for-on-screen Much of the problem lies not in the keyboard, but in how the applications interact with the keyboard.
Google's algorithm makes sense, but many applications don't specify their input mode, so the keyboards do the best they can.
Different combinations of Keyboards/Applications will yield different results. If you don't like what you have, tell the developer, or change keyboard and/or application.
Cheers!
-I_Artist
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This is a HUGE help! I think I understand this better. Its not necessarily a framework issue, its the keyboard itself and all the keyboards are roughly identical. So what happens, if i read this correctly, is the keyboard has a predefined algorithm that tells it there isnt enough space on screen to have both the keyboard and app showing. that is why it reverts to covering up the whole screen.
This is used when the IME is too large to reasonably share space with the underlying application. With the standard IMEs, you will only encounter this situation when the screen is in a landscape orientation, although other IMEs are free to use it whenever they desire. In this case the application window is left as-is, and the IME simply displays fullscreen on top of it, as shown here:
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So if we look at the IME and readjust what it considers to be too cramped of a space to display the full keyboard and part of the app on the same screen then it should work! what u guys think?
did some more digging. this is from HTC_CIME but it should be roughly the same idea:
keyboardBackground="@7F020074"
keyboardPadding="0,2,0,4"
functionKeyBackground="@7F020032"
commonKeyBackground="@7F020031"
pageKeyBackground="@7F02008A"
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could these be the settings responsible for letting the app appear in the background with the landscape keyboard over it? i dont know what they "@7F02..." mean, what do these values represent?

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Crocodile keyboard

Found on The Register:
Very cunning idea: "each triangular key has significantly more dead space around it than you’d find on a standard Qwerty layout. Consequently, users are more likely to press the correct key each time they tap."
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Essentially the keyboard takes up the same amount of space, but it's easier not to fat-finger more than one key at a time. I would love to see this for touchscreen-only Android phones. It's patented, sadly (and destined for the iPhone), which begs the question: how hard would this be to implement on the sly? Essentially you're just re-skinning the keyboard, after all.
If you were just reskinning the keyboard then the touchable area would be the same and you would still fat-finger touch the other keys. You would also have to make the touch area different.
cruzzade said:
If you were just reskinning the keyboard then the touchable area would be the same and you would still fat-finger touch the other keys. You would also have to make the touch area different.
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Hell, it might even be worth keeping the visual layout the same and just changing the touchable area; I was thinking of "reskinning" as both, largely because I've seen three different keyboards for the magic so far in different ROMs, at least two of which have different touchable areas due to having different keys.
Personally I just wished that the keyboard looked and behaved the same as the iPhone... In the Google firmware, the buttons are too small and responds differently, mostly it doesn't even recognize me pressing the keys...don't know if it is because it lacks multitouch or something..
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how hard would this be to implement on the sly? Essentially you're just re-skinning the keyboard, after all.
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Easy peasy!
Skiing a KB is actually quite easy..... several ways to do it but essentially there is one image for each type of key press- its just a matter of editing them in an image editor program- there is a thread about editing KBs in the dream themes and wallpapers section.
Crocodile Keyboard
Hi there,
Its good to get some feedback on my keyboard, some reports give the idea that I only want to get it put onto the iphone, but in reality, I want to get it used as the default keyboard on every touch screen phone.
The website at www.crocodilekeyboards.com was set up because it is almost impossible to show big companies new ideas as they all seem to hide behind the unsolicited ideas rulebook.
You would think that they would actively encorage inventors with a half decent idea by setting up a simple contact point for evaluation purposes.
I had to go public with the idea just to get it in front of them.
The UK patent covers not just the shape of the keys but also the area around them, it also covers variations of the triangular shape.
There seems to be a real need for this keyboard, everyone seems to hate predictive text and touch screens are definately the way forward.
so are you gonna release it for android any time soon?
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Hi there,
Its good to get some feedback on my keyboard, some reports give the idea that I only want to get it put onto the iphone, but in reality, I want to get it used as the default keyboard on every touch screen phone.
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There seems to be a real need for this keyboard, everyone seems to hate predictive text and touch screens are definately the way forward.
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Good luck! I look forward to trying it out and seeing how it works in practice. It would be nice to be able to move my fat digits a little faster on the screen!
It doesn't matter what the picture of the keyboard looks like. If you don't actually make the space/key bigger, then it won't make any difference. Applephone keyboard is a little easier because the screen is A LITTLE BIGGER.... physically. It has a larger screen. Thats what makes it easier.
Crocodile Keyboard
The actual size of the button is less important than you think.
There is a neat optical effect with the croc board were you see the triangular space around the key which makes it look much bigger, this then gives you a visual clue where the button is as you place your finger over it.
Many people have less than perfect vision and anything that helps determine the button position should help.
As an experiment, put your standard qwerty keyboard on a photocopier and print out a copy. (The full keyboard on my website, www.crocodilekeyboards.com, has a croc version of Apple's aluminium blutooth keyboard)
Then, using a felt tip pen change half the keys on the first few rows to croc keys and compare to the standard keyboard. You will see that you could reduce this on your copier by at least 40% and still easily use the croc keys but start to struggle with the standard ones.
Crocodile Keyboard
I have a question.
Crocodile Keyboards have decided that thier first app will be for the Android powered touch screen phones but have noticed something a bit sneaky in the Android developers agreement.
If you go to:
http://www.android.com/us/developer-distribution-agreement.html
Now look at the last bit of 5.1, "Market and to use the Products to make improvements to the Android platform".
Does this mean that I am about to spend five weeks developing this app and Google can just decide to use it in Android for nothing?
Please somebody tell me I am wrong, I am still waiting for a response from google about this.
From reading it would say that it means they I.E. google can use it for administration and demo.
I'm no legal eagle but i would take it from that they can NOT just steal your idea....... and tbh i dont think it matters what it says i dont think a court would uphold that.
I have seen this keyboard before and the patent is rubbish under prior art.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/artoftrek/klingon-console-st5.jpg
RIM are trying other similar patents with hardware keyboards and three letters on a triangle key. For me this is a vile abuse of the patent system. To change the shape of a key and claim its a new idea is a pile of nonsense. Maybe I will invent and patent the parallelogram keyboard which is very like a triangle.
Krocodile Keyboard
Well untill Google get back to me saying anything different, then this distribution agreement is a contract to which I would be agreeing with. The courts will not agree to disolve an unfair contract just because one of the parties involved couldnt be bothered reading what they were signing.
I have just been speaking to my solicitor and his view is that they would be entitled under the contract to take my app off the store and use it in Android.
Come on Google, what is this?
I'd be more than happy to test it, outside of the market
I doubt google will be getting back to you. Though maybe the Klingons will be visting their solicitors or just come to blast you.
I bought it today, much better, I think. I was looking for an interface to change colors...is that possible? thanks, Cyn
well not many really people use it because either swype or the modified htc ime are still much superior - IMO none of the paid app keyboards are worth using
Swype Micro Download
XDA Modified HTC IME
as you can see this is dead for a reason
swype is superior to anything because once you learn it, the only thing better is a physical keyboard for speed
run the tutorial from the swype settings and you will see why

[REQ]Read It Later App for WM

I use the Read It Later extension for Firefox heavily, and have always missed an WM App that would allow me to read the pages I've marked on my phone.
Well, since I've bought the HD2 I've missed this even more...
Now, it seems that the folks that makes RIL released an API so that anyone can make its own app...
There's an official one for the iPhone, a user made for Android... and none for WM.
I've tried to make one myself, but its way beyond my "search and learn with Google" programing skills.
This way, I want ask if someone is interested or is capable of doind a Read It Later App for WM, HD2 customized, using their API.
The site is here: http://readitlaterlist.com/
It would be really nice to have a "Instapaper" like app for WM...
Thanks in advance!
Request seconded.
without looking at exactly what this is. do you mean an offline browser? if so then opera has the function built in.. saved pages
fards said:
without looking at exactly what this is. do you mean an offline browser? if so then opera has the function built in.. saved pages
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It's not only saved pages...
It's like Instapaper for the iPhone.
You mark a page to read later in RIL Firefox, for example, and then can access the link throught the app in the phone to read it.
The good thing about RIL is that you can mark a page in your desktop and it sincronizes with web, so, as soon as you open RIL in the phone the page is already there.
The advantage here is that you can mark pages to read in multiple PCs (I use in Vista/7 installarion in my notebook as well as XP/7 in my desktop) and still have a unified list.
+1 It looks like a swell piece of software which Id like on winmo
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+1 It looks like a swell piece of software which Id like on winmo
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It is very nice.
ATM i'm using the web version, with the shortcut readitlaterlist.com/unread . When you create an account, this shortcut will lead you directly to the reading list.
Putting Opera zoom in 100%, it fits right in the screen.
But it lacks a lot of features. It is actually just a list of links. You have to manually check read itens, press and hold the link if you want to open in another tab.
What I miss the most is some options to store the pages for future references. Now I have to manually do this... It would be nice if the app allow us to send the pages to another apps...
I hate to bump my own threads, but no one can help me?
Can someone at least tell me what programming language would be easyer to make such an app?
zefiltrin said:
I hate to bump my own threads, but no one can help me?
Can someone at least tell me what programming language would be easyer to make such an app?
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Could someone at least tell me what would be the easyest way to make a app like this?
I really miss an app for RIL, since internet version is not that good.
Id also like to have this app on WM or somethin similar. Cant help you build it, though.
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Id also like to have this app on WM or somethin similar. Cant help you build it, though.
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Thanks anyway... I'm kind of resign that this won't be done.
Using the web version. Not perfect, but does the job.
I have not used this application/service before, but it looks interesting.
I have checked the API and it looks very simple to use.
The only thing that remains before starting to code is to have a rough design of the application GUI, just to set a rough scope on the functionalities.
Then I believe it is possible to create an "ugly" but functional application in a few days. I can work on this project if I can manage to allocate some spare time on this.
zefiltrin, I think you know the usage scenarios of this application way better than me, as I have not yet used it. Why not make a few sketches for describing the GUI of the application you want to see on your PPC. I mean the buttons, lists, etc. Then I would try to realize them (again, if I can manage to allocate some spare time on this)
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I have not used this application/service before, but it looks interesting.
I have checked the API and it looks very simple to use.
The only thing that remains before starting to code is to have a rough design of the application GUI, just to set a rough scope on the functionalities.
Then I believe it is possible to create an "ugly" but functional application in a few days. I can work on this project if I can manage to allocate some spare time on this.
zefiltrin, I think you know the usage scenarios of this application way better than me, as I have not yet used it. Why not make a few sketches for describing the GUI of the application you want to see on your PPC. I mean the buttons, lists, etc. Then I would try to realize them (again, if I can manage to allocate some spare time on this)
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I´ll do that! I'm travelling until april 4th, but will try to do that as soon as I come back.
I think I´ll use some of the screeshots of the existing apps for iPhone and Android.
Thank you for your help!
Well, here are some ideas:
I think the home screen should look like iPhone's Read It Later app:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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The list of things to read could be similar to GReader site, with big letters, two or more lines to allow seing the whole title:
In the "Greader-like" list abobe, there shoud be a search bar and the buttons to direclty mark as read or show the text only view, like this:
Finally, it would be great to have the sharing options like iPhone app (don´t know if the API allow that):
Let me know if this helps...
Ok I will spend some time on this tomorrow.
I started working on this project, I call it "Late Reader" for now. Any better name suggestions are welcome. I think I can post a first beta or alpha in a week.
vizier said:
I started working on this project, I call it "Late Reader" for now. Any better name suggestions are welcome. I think I can post a first beta or alpha in a week.
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Thank you very much!
I'll be glad to test it when you release it.
ooh, this would be a fantastic application
I'll be following this with this new account.
Anyway, very anxious to see the result!
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I'll be following this with this new account.
Anyway, very anxious to see the result!
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OK I should call you hugocbp as of now I guess
I was on a business trip during the week, so I could not work on this project. I plan to have some progress this weekend, and hopefully post you some alpha to test. We'll see.
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OK I should call you hugocbp as of now I guess
I was on a business trip during the week, so I could not work on this project. I plan to have some progress this weekend, and hopefully post you some alpha to test. We'll see.
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No problem! I posted only to subscribe to the thread and let you know I'm the same who created it.
Take you time, I'll be here whenever you're done!

HD2 Customization limited !?

I was looking around at roms and themes for this phone (which I currently do not have btw, but I am planning on getting it)... it seems like all the themes are basically the same, just 'this moved here, this icon is now this icon'...etc... which honestly is leaving something to the imagination, i would like to have more customizations available, but maybe I am not looking in the right sections or at the right apps / roms / themes.... I am coming from an iphone just to give you the perspective and have been used to using things like inav themes/ dbar themes/ ...winterboard... and I have been able to completely re engineer the look and feel of the phone, and I was wondering if this is possible on the HD2 ?
I would love to be able to do these things because I would feel sort of 'walled in' by only being able to change things like colors, icons, etc...maybe I am missing something ? idk... please enlighten me... this is the only fault I can find on this phone (which does disappoint me, because I love everything else about this phone...).. I dont know what else to say, but to ask for your advice/ expertise on this topic... please help!
Not only is the HD2 born with 2 "base-themes", Sense and Titanium...
- there is also a vaste amount of UI tweaks and themes, which allows you to customize the phoneGUI in many ways.
I don't know exactly what you're looking for, as I have never felt the urge to play around with an iPhone (besides throwing them into things).
Could you perhaps provide some screenshots showing what you're looking for?
erebusting said:
I was looking around at roms and themes for this phone (which I currently do not have btw, but I am planning on getting it)... it seems like all the themes are basically the same, just 'this moved here, this icon is now this icon'...etc... which honestly is leaving something to the imagination, i would like to have more customizations available, but maybe I am not looking in the right sections or at the right apps / roms / themes.... I am coming from an iphone just to give you the perspective and have been used to using things like inav themes/ dbar themes/ ...winterboard... and I have been able to completely re engineer the look and feel of the phone, and I was wondering if this is possible on the HD2 ?
I would love to be able to do these things because I would feel sort of 'walled in' by only being able to change things like colors, icons, etc...maybe I am missing something ? idk... please enlighten me... this is the only fault I can find on this phone (which does disappoint me, because I love everything else about this phone...).. I dont know what else to say, but to ask for your advice/ expertise on this topic... please help!
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a windows mobile phone is the most customizable phone! you can't compare this to an iphone, as you can nearly change everything.
you can use the ui of your choice, so when you don't like sense for example, you can use sbp, throttle launcher, titanium, or whatever gui you can find and you do like.
maybe a specific ui like sense is limited concerning customization, but the phone/winmo platform is definetly not. there are plenty of different guis for winmo.
erebusting said:
I was looking around at roms and themes for this phone (which I currently do not have btw, but I am planning on getting it)... it seems like all the themes are basically the same, just 'this moved here, this icon is now this icon'...etc... which honestly is leaving something to the imagination, i would like to have more customizations available, but maybe I am not looking in the right sections or at the right apps / roms / themes.... I am coming from an iphone just to give you the perspective and have been used to using things like inav themes/ dbar themes/ ...winterboard... and I have been able to completely re engineer the look and feel of the phone, and I was wondering if this is possible on the HD2 ?
I would love to be able to do these things because I would feel sort of 'walled in' by only being able to change things like colors, icons, etc...maybe I am missing something ? idk... please enlighten me... this is the only fault I can find on this phone (which does disappoint me, because I love everything else about this phone...).. I dont know what else to say, but to ask for your advice/ expertise on this topic... please help!
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What's wrong with you? Please DO read the Themes and Apps section properly before posting, and keep in mind that the phone is almost 6 months old... Personally, I don't know about a more customizable phone than a Windows 6.5/6.5.x phone.
I did not realize!
Wow thanks for all your responses! I did not realize that there were other GUI's that I could use, which is what I was talking about basically... I was only viewing Sense/manilla theming and those look all pretty simliar, same stuff in the same places etc....Also I will post a screen shot of my current iphone look as an example later on when I get the chance....I would like to be able to have alot of functionality with different gestures and alot of eye candy is a must! =)...
well could I ask you all this then : what is your favorite UI (or some of your favorites) and please shortly explain why ?
Thanks very much your comments are very helpful to me....
erebusting said:
Wow thanks for all your responses! I did not realize that there were other GUI's that I could use, which is what I was talking about basically... I was only viewing Sense/manilla theming and those look all pretty simliar, same stuff in the same places etc....Also I will post a screen shot of my current iphone look as an example later on when I get the chance....I would like to be able to have alot of functionality with different gestures and alot of eye candy is a must! =)...
well could I ask you all this then : what is your favorite UI (or some of your favorites) and please shortly explain why ?
Thanks very much your comments are very helpful to me....
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As it's clear you're not quite familiar with Windows Mobile phones, let's bring you up to date:
Windows mobile allows you to do just about anything with the system, i.e. changing just about every aspect of your phone, including (especially) the user interface.
There are tonnes of shells out there. Most of the people like using Sense 2.5, so they would rather just tweak here and there so that it fits their liking. Those who don't use sense, they switch to all kinds of other things they prefer.. including someone whom i saw using the standard windows gui.
If you'd like to take a look at that monstrosity, click on settings, all settings, today, items, and turn GTC Sense off.
Below, take a quick look at what's possible, just because it's windows mobile:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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I love Sense, but here are some other stuff you can consider:
SPB mobile shell
winterface
home2
Androkkid
pointUI
(think there are quite a few others as well)
You can even use "UI Switcher" to play with multiple UIs on 1 phone. Me, I like Sense 2.5, though I must admit once in a while I switch to SPB mobile shell for the fun of it.
one of my recent iphone looks...
this is one of my recent themes I used on my iphone, as you can see it is very different from the original theme..it is also landscape... this is not my most recent one though, I am currently using another one which I will post later... and actually on the first picture, I fixed the theme to where the time, and date and such line up in the box on the bottom left (if viewing in portrait)..
the second two items are just some themes for an example ...they show you how different you could make the iphone look from its default look...

[Q] App that mirrors the screen to use it as a HUD

Hi there. I need an app that mirrors the screen of my android phone to use it as a HUD in my car. I've already found an app that shows the current speed mirrored, but i would like to have it for other apps, too. So that i can use apps like Google Maps Navigation with my front window.
I googled a lot, but i sadly didn't find anything...
I'm confused.
You want this displayed ... how? where?
Please share the name/developer of the other app you've already found. Give us an idea of what you are talking about.
When you say HUD (heads up display), the only thing I can think of is some sort of projected display on your windshield
THAT WOULD EFFING AWESOME!!!!
if i understand Phexi right, he wants to put his phone under the windshield in a way that enables you to see the reflection of the screen in the windshield. works great during night trips.
usual problem - everything is mirrored.
wow that's a good idea!
deltaalpha23 said:
if i understand Phexi right, he wants to put his phone under the windshield in a way that enables you to see the reflection of the screen in the windshield. works great during night trips.
usual problem - everything is mirrored.
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This is exactly what i wanted to tell you
Yeah, the "evrything is mirrored" can be a problem, but with the help of a homescreen widget (maybe with a mirrored text ) it should be possible to switch back very easily
With an AMOLED display it should look very good (when the rest is black), but it has to be mirrored to work.
should look like this then
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
SpeedView - Check it on Market. It works great on my i7500. It shows speed, time, distance travelled, etc.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/speed/com.theswirlingbrain.speed
http://www.appbrain.com/app/cgspeed/cg.android.speed2
http://www.appbrain.com/app/hudy-lite/com.hudy
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gpspeedo/org.homelinux.pwarren.gpspeedo
http://www.appbrain.com/app/androhud/net.davidtanzer.androhud
I think 5 is enough. Any of these float your boat? (those all *should* have mirrored "HUD" settings so when laid on your dash under your windshield you get the effect of the BMW HUD above. I haven't tried any of them personally, though.)
chjade84 said:
I think 5 is enough. Any of these float your boat? (those all *should* have mirrored "HUD" settings so when laid on your dash under your windshield you get the effect of the BMW HUD above. I haven't tried any of them personally, though.)
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He isn't looking for a speedometer, he wants to mirror his screen for all apps, so that way he can use the maps app or the navigation app or any other app of his choosing and see it on his windshield. Before you go off on your next pissy fit, read carefully.
i bet it wont be that hard to make......if no one can find one, i bet i can make one....
Maybe Cyanogenmod can incorporate it into his RenderFX mod.
neoobs said:
He isn't looking for a speedometer, he wants to mirror his screen for all apps, so that way he can use the maps app or the navigation app or any other app of his choosing and see it on his windshield. Before you go off on your next pissy fit, read carefully.
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Wow... feel better?
You are right, I didn't read carefully - I read looking for a HUD, scrolled down saw more HUD talk, more talking of speedo HUD's, so I wen't on appbrain and looked for some.
Just trying to help. I guess this another forum I'll stop contributing to. I don't need to deal with know-it-all jerks like you, I get enough of you people in real life.
Sorry OP, just trying to help. I don't see any way to do it unless you made the OS and all the apps (at least the relevant ones) mirrored in a custom ROM.
Goodbye.
HUD
rkrishnan2012 said:
i bet it wont be that hard to make......if no one can find one, i bet i can make one....
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Would you be able to? I'm looking for something similar - at least have the directions (via google nav perhaps?) & speed mirrored on the windscreen.
If possible, please share
BUILD IT!!!
rkrishnan2012 said:
i bet it wont be that hard to make......if no one can find one, i bet i can make one....
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If you are the first to do it, you could easily charge $1 and make a mint...I would recommend a trial version with a, say, 14 day trial period.
like so:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqtHZE-8fCw
is this it?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.scientific.car&hl=en
Any progress on this? This would be an excellent app idea but due to my limited development knowledge someone else will have to work on it. This app will allow anyone to use their phone/tablet to project image on a semi-reflective surface and serve as a cheap full-screen navigation/media center solution.
I will be willing to purchase it as an initial customer and even make a small donation for its development.
How bout the app up there?
No, the app in the link only mirrors some text based info. We need something that can flip the display contents on the y-axis. This way when you project the screen contents the reverse text and graphics appear normal. I do not believe there's anything in the market that currently offers to do this.
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it should be easy to develop.
Or not?
Any updates on this anyone? There seems to be niche demand for this thereby warranting someone to do the great work.
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Just guessing here but I would think that this would be easier accomplished baked in as a feature of a launcher or a ROM rather than an app
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betatesters wanted :)

Hi, I have created a simple app that visualizes your SMS inbox as a cloud of words (size based on word usage) - currently I seek for few users with 2.2 device for beta tests. Please check Visual Words at Market (free) and report your experiences in this thread. Thanks for help!
PS. The app may behave strange depending on your SMS inbox size and content - if you see blank black screen only please try clicking the screen to change visualization settings (check on the app webpage for details).
Only Froyo is supported? Sounds like a fun app to toy with a little.
Niice idea , yeah i'll beta test if you want't
ill beta test too if you want. angeldelaguarda [at] gmail(dot)com
I installed and played around with the app. It has some entertaining possibilities. Some things I noticed..
(Nexus one running rooted eViL 1.15)
-Words are tiny.
Suggestion: Show words that are used the most, maybe even bigger words based on how often they occur. (Doesn't seem to do that at this point.)
-Some times it includes the (1/3) (2/3) parts of the messages.
Suggestion: I'm not really a fan, perhaps removing them would bring a little more polish. Not a really a big deal though.
-Words do not fill the screen.
Suggestion: I have over 400 text messages but it only fills just the corners of the screens. There is a HUGE black area in the middle thats not doing anything, would be nice to try and fill the screen as much as possible.
I'm still playing with it, I'll let you know if I come across anything else.
Some screen captures:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Thanks for the test - I am quite surprised that all words seem to have exactly same font size ... I think/hope that changing the scale to logarithmical in options and clicking then when it displays the screen touch it according to the instructions below should help:
* Top left will decrease the number of words while top right will increase it (starting at 500, increase by 20%, decrease by 10%, 5 words minimum).
* Bottom left will decrease the font range, bottom right will increase it (starting from 10pt to 60pt, increase by 20% decrease by 10%, 6pt to 36pt minimum).
* Center Left will decrease the logarithmical scale, Center Right will increase it (making the “scale curve” more steep). It requires plenty of clicks - changes are relatively slow at the beginning (increase with each click though).
please check by clicking - increase word count few times (upper right corner) and increase font size few times (bottom right corner).
thanks for the comments on (1/x) - I have a list of words being removed will add few of these.
For all others willing to test - the app is in the market - look for "Visual Words" - feedback is highly appreciated - make sure to touch the screen to change the settings.
Increased and decreased font size, and pretty much messed with UI to get it to break, everything seems like its working as intended.
(This was what I was expecting with the first image of words.)
Thanks for the effort on testing - I will surely look into what can be done to have the right scale from the very beginning. (not very simple as the inboxes across the globe will vary significantly)
Second point on my todo list is giving the user ability to fliter words (I do have a small "filter list" but looking at your screenshot I see much more, and it actually will be language dependent) ...
Third will be the sender filter I think.
Thanks again and I hope you had fun playing with it.
PS. posting a comment on Market that it actually works will help to countermeasure the comment I got from initial version where there was no option to scale via user interface...
Added a comment to the market, also marked the other as unhelpful since it's no longer valid.
Keep it up
Seems to work as intended. I must be thick, but I don't understand what it does...I mean, I do...but I don't see how this is going to benefit me.
Eris KaosFroyo V34
I'd love to give this a test, how can I get hold of it? PM me if possible.
This concept seems like a good idea for a livewallpaper. Ill beta in a minute downloading now (if it's not gonna work on any phone it wont work on mine) and post a logcat if applicable.
Edit: Works well on HTC Dream with modified lcd density, added review and marked unhelpful one as such.
z0mbi3 said:
I'd love to give this a test, how can I get hold of it? PM me if possible.
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It's on the market as "Visual Words"
themapleboy said:
This concept seems like a good idea for a livewallpaper. Ill beta in a minute downloading now (if it's not gonna work on any phone it wont work on mine) and post a logcat if applicable.
Edit: Works well on HTC Dream with modified lcd density, added review and marked unhelpful one as such.
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That would be pretty nice actually, just change the background when a new text message is received... humm...
Once I fiddled with the corner touching I was able to get a nice picture.
My suggestions:
Auto detect screen size and render at an appropriate size by default.
Provide an OSD with buttons for the adjustments (similar to zoom on stock browser)
Default to logarithmic scaling.
Provide a spinner to let us know the application is doing something.
Run the calculation in a background thread as to not block the UI and possible cause a Force Close prompt.
Ran it on some friends phones with equally awesome results. All that's needed is general UI polish and you'll have a really clever application.
what does this do?
I am down for beta testing but aside from guessing it has something to do with txt messages I have no idea what this app does...can someone explain?
dsMA said:
I am down for beta testing but aside from guessing it has something to do with txt messages I have no idea what this app does...can someone explain?
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Sure, I'll do my best.
Visual Words reads the words from the SMS messages on your phone and places them on the screen in no particular order. When you touch the center of the screen a different set of random words will fill the screen. Press in the bottom left corner and the words shrink, bottom right, and they get bigger. (Some words are bigger then others when they are used more frequently, so over time, you could be able to see which words you favor in your text vocabulary.)
This application is merely entertainment, just more of a artsy kind of entertainment. This isn't something that is going to do your math homework for you, or complete your project deadlines.
But at this point, who knows where playground is going to go with this, the code itself has to be pretty interesting if nothing else.
archangelugp said:
Sure, I'll do my best.
Visual Words reads the words from the SMS messages on your phone and places them on the screen in no particular order. When you touch the center of the screen a different set of random words will fill the screen. Press in the bottom left corner and the words shrink, bottom right, and they get bigger. (Some words are bigger then others when they are used more frequently, so over time, you could be able to see which words you favor in your text vocabulary.)
This application is merely entertainment, just more of a artsy kind of entertainment. This isn't something that is going to do your math homework for you, or complete your project deadlines.
But at this point, who knows where playground is going to go with this, the code itself has to be pretty interesting if nothing else.
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Thanks that was a very good description of the app. I think seesmic was doing something similar to this in their pc client for twitter.
So is this an app that you open and then it has those effects or does it run in the background and you have words floating around your screen all the time or does it just pop up when ever you get a txt message...how does it work?
I like it
I wonder how big the word viagra would be if it worked on email.
i would like to be a beta tester for your application it looks really amazing.
Device: HD2, with Froyo 2.2 on it
dsMA said:
Thanks that was a very good description of the app. I think seesmic was doing something similar to this in their pc client for twitter.
So is this an app that you open and then it has those effects or does it run in the background and you have words floating around your screen all the time or does it just pop up when ever you get a txt message...how does it work?
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Right now it's only when you run the application do you get to play around with / look at the words.

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