I'm looking for a charging speaker dock ( al a ipod / iphone ) for a HTC Desire.
Ideally to charge the phone and play music via, then the phone can be used as an alarm clock.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Well.. I don't think the Desire outputs audio through the USB port, so you'd have an ugly audio cable running from the dock to the top of the Desire...
I'd also be looking for one of these. I guess it could use bluetooth to avoid the cable issue?
albert_htc said:
I'm looking for a charging speaker dock ( al a ipod / iphone ) for a HTC Desire.
Ideally to charge the phone and play music via, then the phone can be used as an alarm clock.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
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Don't you think we will soon see a device very similar to the Nexus One dock -- which has both wired audio out, and also bluetooth audio -- once paired, it plays through your speakers without the phone in the dock. It also is set up to be used as a bedside clock for alarm, with dimmer display. You may know all this already, but just in case you don't, here is the Desire's first cousin's (Nexus One's) dock... just to show that what you want is probably coming very soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HsG4xCVb2s&fmt=22
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/01/30/nexus-one-desktop-dock-unboxing-and-review/
(has more details about settins -- but since this is nexus one only.... )
someone found any music/alarm clock dock for desire?????
It could work if the dock charges the phone while it's sending the audio thrue bluetooth hope some 1 well go further with this idea...
quicksite said:
Don't you think we will soon see a device very similar to the Nexus One dock -- which has both wired audio out, and also bluetooth audio -- once paired, it plays through your speakers without the phone in the dock. It also is set up to be used as a bedside clock for alarm, with dimmer display. You may know all this already, but just in case you don't, here is the Desire's first cousin's (Nexus One's) dock... just to show that what you want is probably coming very soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HsG4xCVb2s&fmt=22
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/01/30/nexus-one-desktop-dock-unboxing-and-review/
(has more details about settins -- but since this is nexus one only.... )
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Why couldn't I use the Nexus One dock for the Desire then?
al89nut said:
Why couldn't I use the Nexus One dock for the Desire then?
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Because the Desire doesn't have the extra pins on the bottom edge to connect with the dock.
http://pic.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/google-nexus-one/phone/gsmarena_020.jpg
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google dot com slash phone now has the car dock listed ($55) but says “Sorry, this item is temporarily not available.”
The PDF that they link to talks about a built in speaker but doesn’t mention a audio out port for connecting to your car stereo. Could they have really left this out?
Edit: The listing disappeared after only a couple of minutes and unfortunately I refreshed before I grabbed a screenshot. I did save the help page and the PDF, although both are still accessible on Google’s servers.
I can't post links so the best I can do is (bit dot ly slash bvAsYB)
Brettray's link
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=178146
Love the way the phone slides into it... so much easier than my 3rd party POS holder I'm using right now...
After checking out the PDF... looks like you're right... no audio jack... but no real need from one. You should be able to plug an audio jack into the phone still... would've been nicer to just leave it in the dock though and have audio transferred through the gold connectors... Why Google?
Edit: In the PDF it talks about how the dock automatically enables BlueTooth. Guessing that's how you're supposed to connect it to your cars audio.
"You can't use a Bluetooth headset while the phone is docked" - again, Google... why??
Nexus One Car Dock
Finally!! I hope I can have it by this weekend.
Re: Nexus One Car Dock (official) doesnt have audio out?
Im going to wait a while before I purchase.Right now my home dock is acting funky, some times it charges and sometimes it doesn't depending on how my nexus sits.
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The pdf actually mentions sending data through bluetooth on the dock. It probably does have an audio jack.
SpyderMS said:
Brettray's link
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=178146
Love the way the phone slides into it... so much easier than my 3rd party POS holder I'm using right now...
After checking out the PDF... looks like you're right... no audio jack... but no real need from one. You should be able to plug an audio jack into the phone still... would've been nicer to just leave it in the dock though and have audio transferred through the gold connectors... Why Google?
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You can't push data through the gold connectors.
The pdf actually mentions playing music through the phone -> bluetooth.
There probably is a connection on there, did the desk dock specify the audio connection?
It's gonna be retarded if it plays audio through the docks speaker phone, wtf.
Its already gone?
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Its already gone?
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I don't think it was supposed to be up originally as it showed not available. I'd guess it would show up pretty soon though as a result.
I think it looks great, but it is really dissapointing that you cannot use a bluetooth headset while it is docked. I do not think that the speakerphone will be clear enough with the amount of time I am on the phone. I guess now I know that it looks like and how it functions, I will be looking in to another option.
The dock just came back up on the purchasing website and now seems to be officially for sale.
Just purchased
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Just purchased
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me too. finally....
$55 seems a bit excessive imo. Especially considering that I can't even make a phone call while using it. Speaker phone? hardly. The speaker phone is **** on my nexus.
It looks like it wont work with a case either. I dont understand why they think people aren't using cases for their phones.
Mine is purchased! However I do not need outlandish Fedex overnight for this like I did for my phone
The ones that ordered, please take some pictures and do a review for us.
I'm worried about the not able to connect to a bluetooth headset while docked. I wonder if bluetooth headset is also considered a bluetooth car stereo.
I've never used headsets and don't care to. But I'm about to order a bluetooth car stereo and I'll be pissed if I can connect my Nexus One to the stereo.
Will do Sistum
Waited so long for this. How can it not have an audio out? I'm not going to listen to mp3 and navigation through the built in speakers and not my car speakers. That's ridiculous. Am I missing something here?
Sistum Id said:
The ones that ordered, please take some pictures and do a review for us.
I'm worried about the not able to connect to a bluetooth headset while docked. I wonder if bluetooth headset is also considered a bluetooth car stereo.
I've never used headsets and don't care to. But I'm about to order a bluetooth car stereo and I'll be pissed if I can connect my Nexus One to the stereo.
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As long as you tell the phone to to pair with the dock you should be fine to pair with anything else.
the product description says that the speakers "enhance the in-car music and media experience." How exactly do pathetic speakers enhance audio? what's the point if it has to go through speakers instead of the very common audio jack equipped head unit.
you CAN still plug in an audio jack to the phone when it is docked. but then again i can still plug an audio jack into the phone when it's on the desk dock. I thought the whole bloody point of the bluetooth dock was so that you don't have to plug in the audio jack, what's the point of a bluetooth dock that still requires you to plug the phone in?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I cancelled my order until this issue is confirmed and or resolved. until then, i will continue sitting my phone in a cup holder and connecting an audio cable and charging cable.
3bs said:
Waited so long for this. How can it not have an audio out? I'm not going to listen to mp3 and navigation through the built in speakers and not my car speakers. That's ridiculous. Am I missing something here?
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Yes! Thank You! Well, I'm guessing that they figure people have bluetooth enabled stereos? Can the N1 even transfer audio through BT? Now I just need to get the BT working lol.
Purchased.
I agree that having an aux jack on the Nexus One car dock would be pretty sweet, but it is what it is, and I wanted to move on... Here is what I did:
Nexus One (duh)
Nexus One car dock (...)
Kensington LiquidAuxbluetooth car kit: us.kensington.com/html/14484.html
Micro USB cable
Plug the Kensington L.A. into the accessory outlet, and connect the audio output plug to your AUX on your stereo. The L.A. provides a USB port to use for the Micro USB cable. (for charging)
Plug the micro USB cable in this port and route to your car dock.
Once you pair your phone with the L.A. place it in the car dock and setup the audio to be whatever combination you would like. I personally use the dock for calls (because the mic is better) and the L.A. for audio.
One accessory outlet, (no splitters) one wire coming from it to the dock, audio routed through the AUX in your stereo, and (IMO) really great call audio thanks to the dock and noise canceling, which still works with the phone in the dock...
Just sharing my experience, YMMV, IANAL, OMG, WTF, BBQ...
Pics - Add http to them to view (I can't post links yet apparently...)
yfrog.com/2r20100415073238j -LiquidAUX Device
yfrog.com/1420100415073316j - Plugged into AUX and has Micro USB connected.
yfrog.com/2m20100415073324j - Cable Routing 1
yfrog.com/j120100415073338j - Cable Routing 2
yfrog.com/4720100415073414j - Wheel wireless remote, media functions work, I couldn't get phone button to do anything, but that may be a settings thing.
yfrog.com/0b20100415073331j - Dock on the windscreen, the stock MicroUSB cable that comes with the phone is pretty 'stiff' and stays in place very well.
Pics please...
Awesome Find.
30 bucks with free shipping on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-LiquidAUX-Bluetooth-Remote-Phones/dp/B0011UIX2K
I'm about to order mine
+ 1. That looks like a really good solution. Another benefit you did not mention is that by powering the Car Dock with the Micro USB cable, you do away with the spiral lead that is on the Car Dock power supply. So easier to route and hide.
Any issues with charging the phone and powering the car dock? Isn't the car doc charger higher output than regular chargers and perhaps the one on the LiquidAux?
how's the music sound quality?
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logger said:
+ 1. That looks like a really good solution. Another benefit you did not mention is that by powering the Car Dock with the Micro USB cable, you do away with the spiral lead that is on the Car Dock power supply. So easier to route and hide.
Any issues with charging the phone and powering the car dock? Isn't the car doc charger higher output than regular chargers and perhaps the one on the LiquidAux?
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No issues I have noticed so far, there is no additional <warmth> on the LiquidAux I have been able to detect, and the phone charges just as quickly as it would when plugged in using OEM adapter. And yes, losing the spiral lead is a nice bonus...
yellowy0y0 said:
how's the music sound quality?
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Sound quality for me is great, there is no interruptions, etc I have noticed. But I suspect that this would be a YMMV kind of thing based on the car stereo used and the distance / path (if that even matters with the relatively short distance) between the LiquidAux device and the phone...
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Pics please...
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I added some pics above (imageshack) but couldn't post links (yet) so just add the http part and you can see them...
um, do you realize you can still use the headphone jack when the phone is plugged into the dock?
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?answer=178184
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um, do you realize you can still use the headphone jack when the phone is plugged into the dock?
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?answer=178184
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Why yes, but some people in this particular forum were voicing their displeasure of having a mass of wires dangling all over their car / phone etc...
I was offering an alternative, and it worked well for me, nobody said or implied that you need to do it too...
<Sheesh/>
How long is that cable(the 3.5mm one from the liquid aux). Looks pretty short..
tokyomonster said:
How long is that cable(the 3.5mm one from the liquid aux). Looks pretty short..
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It is in fact short (4") while this works fine for my use, YMMV...
Interesting solution, I like it
Here are clickable links for the lazy
http://yfrog.com/2r20100415073238j -LiquidAUX Device
http://yfrog.com/1420100415073316j - Plugged into AUX and has Micro USB connected.
http://yfrog.com/2m20100415073324j - Cable Routing 1
http://yfrog.com/j120100415073338j - Cable Routing 2
http://yfrog.com/4720100415073414j - Wheel wireless remote, media functions work, I couldn't get phone button to do anything, but that may be a settings thing.
http://yfrog.com/0b20100415073331j - Dock on the windscreen, the stock MicroUSB cable that comes with the phone is pretty 'stiff' and stays in place very well.
furbyslayer said:
It is in fact short (4") while this works fine for my use, YMMV...
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Hmm. I guess, worst case scenario, I can just buy a short extender.
Another question for you... Does the remote work with the phone? I'm waiting for mine to get here but I had read from many reviews that the control did not work properly with the iphone, just wondering if the nexus one had the same problem.
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awesome writeup... Even if this thing doesn't work to pickup calls I don't care, I always have a bluetooth headset for the car anyhow. I think I'll get an extra socket and mount it all under the dash out of sight.
Even thought you can plug in a wire to the headphone jack I want a solution where I can stick the phone in the holder when I get in, and pull it right out without messing with cables every fricken time... Most the time I don't plug my phone in right now just because of that very reason.
With a nice setup like this I'd plug my phone in every time I get in the car... awesome, Thanks!
Just ordered mine off amazon.. seems like a great price for the product.
Nevermind, reread your first post, missed the info I wanted the first read through. Well, since I'm stuck with this post existing, may as well clarify, you said you can choose to have the phone calls go through the dock with this, right?
furbyslayer said:
It is in fact short (4") while this works fine for my use, YMMV...
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4 inches, is that all you've got? - that is short
I think perhaps you meant 4' or four feet.
yellowy0y0 said:
Another question for you... Does the remote work with the phone? I'm waiting for mine to get here but I had read from many reviews that the control did not work properly with the iphone, just wondering if the nexus one had the same problem.
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The media functions work fantastic with the Nexus, the iPhone does not support track skip, where the Nexus does. I have not been able to get the phone button to start voice dialing like the iPhone does. I have not actually had a call while driving to pickup yet, so I can't say for certain whether that (pickup incoming) works or not...
kitsunisan said:
Nevermind, reread your first post, missed the info I wanted the first read through. Well, since I'm stuck with this post existing, may as well clarify, you said you can choose to have the phone calls go through the dock with this, right?
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I have call audio go through the dock, yes. The LiquidAux has a microphone, but it is quite far away from the the speaker's mouth IMO. Additionally, the dock still uses the extra Michael for active noise cancelling and is quite crisp and clear for calls. (I have so far made several outbound calls with great results.) The music pauses, audio routes up to the dock for the duration of the call, then the music resumed on the car speakers automatically...
Hello,
I know Google made a care dock, in fact I have the Desktop Dock.
But I read a couple of reviews and the results were not satisfying.
So I need your advice !
What is the best Care Dock for the Nexus One ?
I want to use it as GPS/phone but not media player.
Best regards,
rXp>!<
None. Theres only one that's from google or htc. Same thing anyways.
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I have the google car dock (and the Google desk dock), and it is superb. That's what you want.
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rXpCH said:
Hello,
I know Google made a care dock, in fact I have the Desktop Dock.
But I read a couple of reviews and the results were not satisfying.
So I need your advice !
What is the best Care Dock for the Nexus One ?
I want to use it as GPS/phone but not media player.
Best regards,
rXp>!<
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I have the Nexus Dock that was sold by Google. It's great for GPS and I have to say it is OK at best for hands free phone. Maybe in a quieter car (Chevy Blazer here) but I have a hard time hearing people even at maximum volume. My car is a little loud though so maybe someone else may have better input for that issue I have. It seems with some of the older roms on my phone I had a few connection issues(random bluetooth connection drops) but on some of the newer roms I haven't had that problem at all. As far as a media player.. meh If you like listening to your music through a CB radio speaker then this is the dock for you! It is very well made as far as construction. I've had mine almost a year now and it still works with no issues. In all reality the music player doesn't sound terrible through the speaker but it doesn't sound great, the phone feature is OK and navigation is great. It is a good product but just like any other product it is not perfect.
flappjaxxx said:
I have the Nexus Dock that was sold by Google. It's great for GPS and I have to say it is OK at best for hands free phone. Maybe in a quieter car (Chevy Blazer here) but I have a hard time hearing people even at maximum volume. My car is a little loud though so maybe someone else may have better input for that issue I have. It seems with some of the older roms on my phone I had a few connection issues(random bluetooth connection drops) but on some of the newer roms I haven't had that problem at all. As far as a media player.. meh If you like listening to your music through a CB radio speaker then this is the dock for you! It is very well made as far as construction. I've had mine almost a year now and it still works with no issues. In all reality the music player doesn't sound terrible through the speaker but it doesn't sound great, the phone feature is OK and navigation is great. It is a good product but just like any other product it is not perfect.
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Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't have a car dock, and the htc website is out of stock now),
but can't you set your phone to use bluetooth A2DP to connect to a bluetooth capable car stereo automatically when you put it in the dock? Or is that the situation you have where you talk about bad audio quality?
Also, can't you get car stereos/kits that give you handsfree speakerphone using your stereo and an external mic?
For me, the dock is little better than a car charger if it doesn't auto connect to such newfangled wizardry to solve these problems automagically (the dock does actually CHARGE the phone too, right?).
tonyx3 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't have a car dock, and the htc website is out of stock now),
but can't you set your phone to use bluetooth A2DP to connect to a bluetooth capable car stereo automatically when you put it in the dock? Or is that the situation you have where you talk about bad audio quality?
Also, can't you get car stereos/kits that give you handsfree speakerphone using your stereo and an external mic?
For me, the dock is little better than a car charger if it doesn't auto connect to such newfangled wizardry to solve these problems automagically (the dock does actually CHARGE the phone too, right?).
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The dock's built-in speaker has not so great audio. You can connect it to a bluetooth capable stereo, I just happen to not have one of those. I am sure there are kits out there that do all of the above. Yes it does charge the phone as well. The phone connects to the dock's speaker via Bluetooth and that's what I meant about the previous random bluetooth drops. For what I use it for, mostly navigation and charging it serves it's purpose.
flappjaxxx said:
The dock's built-in speaker has not so great audio. You can connect it to a bluetooth capable stereo, I just happen to not have one of those. I am sure there are kits out there that do all of the above. Yes it does charge the phone as well.
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Oh, the car dock has an extra built in speaker? I kinda assumed you were talking about audio coming from the phone's built in speaker. I see. Thanks for the heads up, in any case.
Arkon has good universal car mounts. The good thing is that it is future proof assuming that phones don't get super wide.
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gonna try out one of these
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-car-windshield-swivel-mount-for-htc-g5-39882
please know that if you order it, it ships from China. With all the Chinese New Year festivities going on there it will probably take 4 weeks to get here.
From Amazon
I bought this dock: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-K3...h-Compatible/dp/B003Y3BEV4/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
And although is supposedly for the iPhone, it works great with the N1. I modded the base, so it will hold the tip of this charger: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA/ref=oss_product?ie=UTF8&redirect=true
The dock you can either put it in the windshield or in one of the vents. I put mine in a vent, because it is closer to my hand and I don't have to reach to the windshield to operate the phone, when I am using the car home.
I hope that this info helps.
I've had no issues with the Google car dock.
Happily rockin' the Google Car Dock as well. I love the docks with this phone!
I used this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744728&highlight=diy
did the job nice! and cheap too!
I have been looking for a dock and the google dock is no longer being sold by google and is only available on ebayor amazon, there is a buy now on ebay for $79, and it costs $185 on amazon! It looks really nice though, it original sold for $55, so I may shell out the premium to get the only really nice dock i have seen
If I didn't already have the google car dock, I'd probably give this a go:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5747897/how-to-build-a-car-mount-for-your-cellphone-from-office-supplies
I'm usually a cheap bastard.
DumbUglyDragon said:
Happily rockin' the Google Car Dock as well. I love the docks with this phone!
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It rocks until it breaks.
Check out proclip usa.
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I'd love to hack an audio out port directly only my official N1 car dock....other than that, it's fantastic.
I have the official Google/HTC car dock, and am satisfied with it. The speaker in it is OK, but not great if you have a loud vehicle. Communication between the dock and phone is via Bluetooth, despite it being physically clipped in. I had a small issue where I found that music would play via the dock speaker, but phone calls would only play on the phone's speaker, oddly.
Also, after taking a road trip with my N1 as a GPS unit before I got the dock, I found that a standard car 12v --> USB adapter with a microUSB cable did not provide enough juice to power the phone while using Google Nav with GPS. It would slowly discharge the battery over time. This happened with 3 different 12v--> USB adapters, so maybe most of them out there don't put out enough amps.
Anyways, I got mine last fall from HTC's site, which was (and still is) backordered. I did eventually get it, though.
Because I'm an xda forum noob, it won't let me post the URL... but just Google "shopamerica" and "HTC" and find accessories for the Nexus One from the HTC America site.
the only problem with non Google Car Dock/Car Mount is that phone dialer never show in landscape
is there any trick to emulate google car dock to allow dialer to be in landscape ?
thanks
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I have the official Google/HTC car dock, and am satisfied with it. The speaker in it is OK, but not great if you have a loud vehicle. Communication between the dock and phone is via Bluetooth, despite it being physically clipped in. I had a small issue where I found that music would play via the dock speaker, but phone calls would only play on the phone's speaker, oddly.
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there is a little workaround for that - the MOTOROLA T505 (google it) hands-free device works miracles..it has a decent, loud, inbuilt speaker, communicates via bluetooth with the N1, and transmits via FM to your car-stereo. it searches for "least used/weakest signal" on the entire FM frequency band, announces verbally the FM frequency you need to set your radio to, and off you go. as a bonus, it has an inbuilt rechargeable battery so you can take it anywhere.Works for making calls and music 'broadcasts'
I listen to a lot of audio books while I fight insomnia at night. I'm looking for a dock for the Inspire that utilizes the headphone jack with either a pass-through so that you can hook up external speakers or, preferably, has built-in speakers. If it can also charge a spare battery, that would be even better. I can't seem to find anything like that though - even from Hong Kong. Has anyone seen anything like that?
I think we are not really seeing very many docks, so far. Which is weird since the DHD has been out there for a while. I hope the fact that there are now a bunch of Inspire's out there that we will see more docks. I'm still waiting\looking for one myself.
adapter
http://www.cellularfactory.com/apple/IPOD/4/42517/683388/
Maybe something like this will work... a lot of ipod docks out there that might fit your requierments.
timjc said:
http://www.cellularfactory.com/apple/IPOD/4/42517/683388/
Maybe something like this will work... a lot of ipod docks out there that might fit your requierments.
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That is a cool idea. Anyone know if the Inspire pipes sound output through the MicroUSB?
djeaton said:
Anyone know if the Inspire pipes sound output through the MicroUSB?
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Nope. Sorry.
dmacrye.com/?p=2813#axzz1Qiqqg5go
here you go! i found it useful!
Another option
If you can find one of these anywhere:
Sprint FIPO Bluetooth Ipod Adaptor
This works wonders. Use any iphone/ipod compatible dock.
I have an old ipd dock I use as my alarm clock and this sends sound beautifully!
Got it and very happy. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-AS111-Fidelio-Docking-Smartphone/dp/B005LB9GQM
Wow! What's it like?
Please post a mini review! And some pics!
Cool! Got it online? Amazon? How much?
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The Dock connector works with Desire S? And its possible to charge battery connecting there?
I'll take some pics and post, but a quick review
£69 from Amazon.
The doc works and it does charge the phone. The Fidelio app connects bluetooth without a problem. Docking doesn't trigger Dock Mode, but I can do that with AutomateIt and the same would be true with Tasker, etc. I have set it so that when it is on the dock and bluetooth starts, it starts an app called Desk Clock Plus which I have put a button for Tune In Radio on. AutomateIt or Tasker could start anything of course. TuneIn has a sleep timer and an alarm, so I use that.
Sound quality is fine for me. It isn't Hi Fi, but it isn't cheapo either.
There is one problem - one of the two adjustable supports that props the phone either side of the USB connector does touch the volume control, so I had to shave the edge off it slightly. Works fine now. I think the placing isn't as secure as an iPhone, but it is solid enough. Because of the placement of the USB socket on the DS, the connector it has to be over to one side, but that means the phone is centralised on the dock.
Overall, I am happy with it. AMA else you want.