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Mini USB hard drives and cell phones

I'm just wondering, is it possible to use a mini USB hard drive such as this one: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...1&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=25682&lid=585550
to extend a phone's memory?
My guess is that it wouldn't work since the hard drive is bus powered. It would probably take some sort of special formatting. But has anyone ever tried this?

Your phone doesn't have USB hosting capabilities. It has to way to run another USB device. I don't think that is ever going to be planned into the development road map of PPCs and Win Mobile.
Also I just don't see why you would want to tether your phone to an external hard drive especially with 8gb+ mini/micro SDs coming to market and the ability to download your desired files from the internet or a VPN on the fly.
What you may see is Wifi and Bluetooth storage devices being wirelessly connected to your phone. It might even be possible now -- can anyone link up with a Zune to their phone via wifi?

some have like flame and Athena
think the main problem is that usb host mean one
have to substain a 500mA output current at 5volt which mean 2.5watt
that would suck a normal phone dry pretty fast

SeanFromSoCal said:
Your phone doesn't have USB hosting capabilities. It has to way to run another USB device. I don't think that is ever going to be planned into the development road map of PPCs and Win Mobile.
Also I just don't see why you would want to tether your phone to an external hard drive especially with 8gb+ mini/micro SDs coming to market and the ability to download your desired files from the internet or a VPN on the fly.
What you may see is Wifi and Bluetooth storage devices being wirelessly connected to your phone. It might even be possible now -- can anyone link up with a Zune to their phone via wifi?
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I guess that's a good point about an external hard drive not being needed. You could always run orb or a similar client which basically does the same as hooking up the hard drive. Well, thanks for clarifying anyway.

USB connection hell

I don't know what to do about this sudden problem. I've had my transformer since early May with the dock. I've never had any trouble connecting to any computer via the usb cable until this past weekend. Now all of a sudden it won't even show as connected when the tablet is connected to the dock.
So I tried it directly connected to the tablet and it will connect and come up on the computer but most of the time it kicks out after a little bit or when loading the files in a folder it just gets stuck loading and will not move so I can't move files to it.
I know I can transfer files with things like dropbox, but I move files every day and don't feel like fighting with the transformer for a half hour every day to get files where I want them when under normal circumstances I can move them in seconds via usb.
I tried calling support but all I got was a bunch of BS about needing to install all the software from their site which I actually did and it didn't fix anything.
Both computers I normally use are Windows 7 64 bit machines.
Anyone run into a similar issue? Any ideas?
Thank you ahead of time.

Try enable USB debugging.
Go to Settings --> Applications --> Development --> Check box for USB Debugging.
There's fews options you can (Do a backup first) try:
1) Reset to factory settings.
2) Format your microSD.
3) Re-flash the ROM.
Besides there's many ways to transfer files from Asus pad to PC.
Wireless Transfer.
FTP Transfer.
Wireless or FTP.

OP, sorry to hear about the issue. In the instances where you are able to connect via USB, if you leave it alone (don't' touch it), then can it complete the transfer? Since the Transformer uses the same connector to charge and transfer, I'm just wondering if the connector is physically getting lose or something.
When I had the transformer, I usually use the micro-SD card to transfer files. But that's just me.
makec3rt said:
Besides there's many ways to transfer files from Asus pad to PC.
Wireless Transfer.
FTP Transfer.
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Not to criticize your idea or be a jerk...but what does that mean? I don't think 1) wireless transfer and 2)FTP transfer counts as two different methods of transfer. That's like calling USB and "drag-and-drop" two different ways of transferring stuff to devices. Wireless is wireless, whether you're using a FTP protocol or just downloading using the browser.

Similar Issue
I had a similar issue when (but before) I rooted my TF. My Windows 7 64-bit machines wouldn't notice my device unless debugging was enabled and then I couldn't "safely" disconnect the device unless I disabled debugging.
I'm not quite sure what the issue is there but that is how I connect and disconnect.

Thanks for the reply. USB debugging was already turned on so I tried without it. No luck. I'm on hold with support again. If nothing comes from it I guess I will need to reformat. I never rooted so I doubt it's a rom issue.
As I was typing they said to download and install the latest firmware. I've kept this thing up to date, but I guess it's worth a try.

coachclass said:
OP, sorry to hear about the issue. In the instances where you are able to connect via USB, if you leave it alone (don't' touch it), then can it complete the transfer? Since the Transformer uses the same connector to charge and transfer, I'm just wondering if the connector is physically getting lose or something.
When I had the transformer, I usually use the micro-SD card to transfer files. But that's just me.
Not to criticize your idea or be a jerk...but what does that mean? I don't think 1) wireless transfer and 2)FTP transfer counts as two different methods of transfer. That's like calling USB and "drag-and-drop" two different ways of transferring stuff to devices. Wireless is wireless, whether you're using a FTP protocol or just downloading using the browser.
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I got it to work one time. Every other time it just gets stuck loading the content of the folder. If I try to add anything it just sits there as it seems to be waiting for it finish loading. It's just so weird as it has worked perfectly for two months now and then all of the sudden it stopped working. I would maybe understand if there was an update or something but nothing's changed on the tablet or the computers.

I have the same issue with my usb and EVERY device. It all started when I updated the usb drivers with the nvflash certificate. Now when I want to use a usb device or my on board card reader I have to uninstall the general usb driver in the windows device manager, and for new devices. Only then will it recognize whatever I may have conected.

shaensgen said:
I have the same issue with my usb and EVERY device. It all started when I updated the usb drivers with the nvflash certificate. Now when I want to use a usb device or my on board card reader I have to uninstall the general usb driver in the windows device manager, and for new devices. Only then will it recognize whatever I may have conected.
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oh the weird usb issues I've seen. Right now my system says that it doesn't have drivers for my vibrant and yet I can connect it and access it perfectly

Try format your microSD yet? Use SD Formatter 3.0.
coachclass said:
Not to criticize your idea or be a jerk...but what does that mean? I don't think 1) wireless transfer and 2)FTP transfer counts as two different methods of transfer. That's like calling USB and "drag-and-drop" two different ways of transferring stuff to devices. Wireless is wireless, whether you're using a FTP protocol or just downloading using the browser.
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With wireless (using Wifi File Explorer), you just enter the asus epad (ip address) on the browser to download/upload/etc... files from your asus pad.
With FTP, you will need install ftp client on your windows to access files on your device.

makec3rt said:
With FTP, you will need install ftp client on your windows to access files on your device.
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Windows XP and newer versions already have an FTP client - Windows Explorer.
I use the free "Software Data Cable" app. It creates the FTP server on your Transformer, and gives you the address to type into Windows Explorer.
It works great! You can transfer files using your PC, which is a lot easier than doing it on the Transformer.
I haven't used the USB connection since!

Thanks for the replies. I think this thing needs to be rma'd. I just did a factory reset and it's still having issues. I managed to get it connected only through a direct connection and it won't even let me create a folder. It's getting a little late to do it now so I'll call asus tomorrow morning and get it started.

IPod` or Android WiFi Adapteer for PC - no thether

What I neeed is is an iphone or an android device to acts a wifi adapter/dongle so I can view a list of available access points on my computer and connect to them.
Does this make sense?
I'm sure this is possible.
Does anyone have any idea?
Ay help help? Thanks!!

houseonfire said:
What I neeed is is an iphone or an android device to acts a wifi adapter/dongle so I can view a list of available access points on my computer and connect to them.
Does this make sense?
I'm sure this is possible.
Does anyone have any idea?
Ay help help? Thanks!!
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What exactly are you trying to do?
Are you trying to tether your computer through your phone (i.e. connect the computer to the phone via USB cable, and then use the phone's WiFi / 3G connection on your computer)?
Or just use the phone as a wifi finder (which seems odd because if your computer has WiFi then it should be able to see the access points on its own..)?
I'll assume you're going for the first one because the second one doesn't make any sense. You should search the forum for "USB tether" .. although since you're asking for iPhone or android, it seems like you don't have a device yet...

mdizzlew said:
What exactly are you trying to do?
Are you trying to tether your computer through your phone (i.e. connect the computer to the phone via USB cable, and then use the phone's WiFi / 3G connection on your computer)?
Or just use the phone as a wifi finder (which seems odd because if your computer has WiFi then it should be able to see the access points on its own..)?
I'll assume you're going for the first one because the second one doesn't make any sense. You should search the forum for "USB tether" .. although since you're asking for iPhone or android, it seems like you don't have a device yet...
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I have no WiFi adapter. I want to use an android/iPod as a wifi adapter so I can see possible connections listed on the PC (providided by the ipod or android device)..
I build a WiFi antenna that i want to put the device in, i hook the phone/ipod to the computer, then on the computer i find the best wifi point to connect to and connect to it.
I dont want to see the listings for the access points on the device, i want to see and connect to the listings on my computer.

Shameless bump.
I basically want my old android phone or old iPod touch to act as a wifi adapter. That's it.

You mean a hotspot?

[Q] Initiate Bluetooth transfer FROM tablet - how?

I'd like to be sitting on a beach with a beautiful Irish redhead - ah, excuse me already wandering ... I'd like to be sitting outside and if I need something from my PC, I'd like to fire up a bluetooth app and connect and get what I want. BUT it seems that everything is initiated from the PC.
Can someone point me in the right direction (both to the beach and the solution)?
But everything

RBraverman said:
I'd like to be sitting on a beach with a beautiful Irish redhead - ah, excuse me already wandering ... I'd like to be sitting outside and if I need something from my PC, I'd like to fire up a bluetooth app and connect and get what I want. BUT it seems that everything is initiated from the PC.
Can someone point me in the right direction (both to the beach and the solution)?
But everything
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You could set up a server on your computer, and access it via your tablet with an app like ES File Manager. Are you trying to send files or receive them from your tab?

cmendonc2 said:
You could set up a server on your computer, and access it via your tablet with an app like ES File Manager. Are you trying to send files or receive them from your tab?
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I've been trying to get ES FM to work, it starts the BT service then spends hours (if let it) trying to get the file list from the PC - they are paired, but traveling from the tablet to the PC never works, but I can reverse it and transfer from the PC to the Tablet.
I'd really like it both ways. I also have Medevils (sp) Bluetooth File Transfer, but that can't connect to the PC.
SO, it would seem I'm missing the drivers, or config on the PC.

RBraverman said:
I've been trying to get ES FM to work, it starts the BT service then spends hours (if let it) trying to get the file list from the PC - they are paired, but traveling from the tablet to the PC never works, but I can reverse it and transfer from the PC to the Tablet.
I'd really like it both ways. I also have Medevils (sp) Bluetooth File Transfer, but that can't connect to the PC.
SO, it would seem I'm missing the drivers, or config on the PC.
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Its impossible to access EVERYTHING on your computer. For obvious security reasons.
What i would recommend, is simply creating a folder on your Windows PC, sharing that file across your network, then using ES navigate to that networked folder. Then, if you need something that isnt in that networked folder, use VNC to access and control your PC and simply copy the file to the networked folder. Then you got what you want

elesbb said:
Its impossible to access EVERYTHING on your computer. For obvious security reasons.
What i would recommend, is simply creating a folder on your Windows PC, sharing that file across your network, then using ES navigate to that networked folder. Then, if you need something that isnt in that networked folder, use VNC to access and control your PC and simply copy the file to the networked folder. Then you got what you want
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The sharing isn't the problem - it's the lack of being able to connect via BT. I can via WiFi but do not want to due to where I am.

RBraverman said:
The sharing isn't the problem - it's the lack of being able to connect via BT. I can via WiFi but do not want to due to where I am.
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Well think about it. If I could push files from my computer to my tablet, pretty much anyone with Bluetooth can...
Wi-Fi is your only option..
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elesbb said:
Well think about it. If I could push files from my computer to my tablet, pretty much anyone with Bluetooth can...
Wi-Fi is your only option..
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2
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I DO push files TO my tablet from my PC. But the reason no one else can is that they're paired and the tablet will/can only accept files from the PC, anything else and I'm notified and have to allow. I wait too long and the sender errors out.
I can do it with WiFi in both directions, and with BT from PC to tablet. I just can't FROM Droid to PC.
THAT is the basis of my original post.

RBraverman said:
I DO push files TO my tablet from my PC. But the reason no one else can is that they're paired and the tablet will/can only accept files from the PC, anything else and I'm notified and have to allow. I wait too long and the sender errors out.
I can do it with WiFi in both directions, and with BT from PC to tablet. I just can't FROM Droid to PC.
THAT is the basis of my original post.
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No i understand what you are saying. I should have worded my post more clearly.
What i am trying to say is that you can only initiate a Bluetooth transfer from the device sending the file for security reasons. You cant "pull" a file for instance. But i would try to use WiFi to take control of your PC then push the file to the tablet via VNC from the tablet. So for instance, you are controlling the PC from your tablet, now you have full control as if you were sitting in front of your computer. Then to send a file from your tablet to the computer, just use Root Explorer or a similar browser app that allows sharing with bluetooth, then send the file from the tablet, use the VNC view to control your computer and accept the connection and file.

RBraverman said:
I DO push files TO my tablet from my PC. But the reason no one else can is that they're paired and the tablet will/can only accept files from the PC, anything else and I'm notified and have to allow. I wait too long and the sender errors out.
I can do it with WiFi in both directions, and with BT from PC to tablet. I just can't FROM Droid to PC.
THAT is the basis of my original post.
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elesbb said:
No i understand what you are saying. I should have worded my post more clearly.
What i am trying to say is that you can only initiate a Bluetooth transfer from the device sending the file for security reasons. You cant "pull" a file for instance. But i would try to use WiFi to take control of your PC then push the file to the tablet via VNC from the tablet. So for instance, you are controlling the PC from your tablet, now you have full control as if you were sitting in front of your computer. Then to send a file from your tablet to the computer, just use Root Explorer or a similar browser app that allows sharing with bluetooth, then send the file from the tablet, use the VNC view to control your computer and accept the connection and file.
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Thanks for clarifying. Now that I've thought about it, I realize that all of my BT exchanges have been a transfer from a device, they've never initiated a pull. For all the years I've used BT it's never occurred to me what was happening - in Windows a coupla clicks and " ... do you want to send a file or receive ..." yet even when you say receive, you have to move to the OTHER device to start it. hum...... being too poor to pay more attention I guess that's what happens.
As far as WiFi, I've used that in this senario, but we're staying in an RV park for awhile, and although they have good WiFi ( they should, I built it), it's too slow. I think I've simpler solution to elegant idea, the LAN Shares plug-in with Total Commander allows back and forth transfers, just tunnel inside a VPN.
Thank you again for clarifying - I could have died trying trying to get this to work.

One app that will solve file transfer problems?

Hi, Hoping there are some out there that have experience with file transfer from an Android phone. I am somewhat new to the arena and it looks like there is apps out there but I'm wondering if there is an all in one for my needs... I would like to be able to:
Transfer larger files from my phone to my NAS (Diskstation) and my PS4. At home wireless might not be the fastest but probably the most practical. I have tried BubbleUpnp but it looks like all I can do is stream from the phone to a device, not transfer the files. If I have that wrong please let me know. Also I've had times when in Hotel rooms the wireless is not strong enough to transfer files, and would like to be able to transfer from phone to PS4 over USB if possible. If that amounts to a couple different apps that's ok, just was trying to make this as simple as possible. Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: I have a Motorola Droid Turbo 2

GLE3 said:
Hi, Hoping there are some out there that have experience with file transfer from an Android phone. I am somewhat new to the arena and it looks like there is apps out there but I'm wondering if there is an all in one for my needs... I would like to be able to:
Transfer larger files from my phone to my NAS (Diskstation) and my PS4. At home wireless might not be the fastest but probably the most practical. I have tried BubbleUpnp but it looks like all I can do is stream from the phone to a device, not transfer the files. If I have that wrong please let me know. Also I've had times when in Hotel rooms the wireless is not strong enough to transfer files, and would like to be able to transfer from phone to PS4 over USB if possible. If that amounts to a couple different apps that's ok, just was trying to make this as simple as possible. Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: I have a Motorola Droid Turbo 2
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Ok, that didn't go well.. How about just this. I have an SD card formatted to FAT32. I plug my phone via cable into my ps4, select transfer files in the automatic menu that pops y on the phone and my ps4 doesn't recognize it. Is there a way to get my phone to recognize the storage while in the phone and through USB? Must I take it out of the phone and put into a USB reader? Thanks for any help..

GLE3 said:
Ok, that didn't go well.. How about just this. I have an SD card formatted to FAT32. I plug my phone via cable into my ps4, select transfer files in the automatic menu that pops y on the phone and my ps4 doesn't recognize it. Is there a way to get my phone to recognize the storage while in the phone and through USB? Must I take it out of the phone and put into a USB reader? Thanks for any help..
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You do have a few options:
1. get an OTG (on the go) micro usb to full usb (female) adapter, attach a usb stick to your phone using the adapter, copy the files to the stick and pack to the ps4
2. ES File Explorer is an app that supports file transfer over http (amongs other things) and through it's help section it shows you how to do it if you do not know how. however that requires that the ps4's internal drive is shared over your network.
Hope that helps

GLE3 said:
Hi, Hoping there are some out there that have experience with file transfer from an Android phone. I am somewhat new to the arena and it looks like there is apps out there but I'm wondering if there is an all in one for my needs... I would like to be able to:
Transfer larger files from my phone to my NAS (Diskstation) and my PS4. At home wireless might not be the fastest but probably the most practical. I have tried BubbleUpnp but it looks like all I can do is stream from the phone to a device, not transfer the files. If I have that wrong please let me know. Also I've had times when in Hotel rooms the wireless is not strong enough to transfer files, and would like to be able to transfer from phone to PS4 over USB if possible. If that amounts to a couple different apps that's ok, just was trying to make this as simple as possible. Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: I have a Motorola Droid Turbo 2
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Maybe this will simplify some things for you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77134367&postcount=26829
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metallas said:
You do have a few options:
1. get an OTG (on the go) micro usb to full usb (female) adapter, attach a usb stick to your phone using the adapter, copy the files to the stick and pack to the ps4
2. ES File Explorer is an app that supports file transfer over http (amongs other things) and through it's help section it shows you how to do it if you do not know how. however that requires that the ps4's internal drive is shared over your network.
Hope that helps
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Thanks, the otg is a good idea, need to find one with a keychain. Never been able to keep track of a USB stick for very long. Anyone happen to know why some phones are recognized and some aren't through a USB cable?

GLE3 said:
Thanks, the otg is a good idea, need to find one with a keychain. Never been able to keep track of a USB stick for very long. Anyone happen to know why some phones are recognized and some aren't through a USB cable?
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Here's the thing.
It depends on the phone itself. Some phones, when connected to pc/other devices are recognised as mass storage devices (like any other usb stick).
Most phones though, especially after android 4.4 are recognised as mtp (media transfer protocol) devices, meaning that it depends on the target device (pc/ps4/etc) on how its is going to be handled or managed.