I'm just wondering, is it possible to use a mini USB hard drive such as this one: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...1&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=25682&lid=585550
to extend a phone's memory?
My guess is that it wouldn't work since the hard drive is bus powered. It would probably take some sort of special formatting. But has anyone ever tried this?
Your phone doesn't have USB hosting capabilities. It has to way to run another USB device. I don't think that is ever going to be planned into the development road map of PPCs and Win Mobile.
Also I just don't see why you would want to tether your phone to an external hard drive especially with 8gb+ mini/micro SDs coming to market and the ability to download your desired files from the internet or a VPN on the fly.
What you may see is Wifi and Bluetooth storage devices being wirelessly connected to your phone. It might even be possible now -- can anyone link up with a Zune to their phone via wifi?
some have like flame and Athena
think the main problem is that usb host mean one
have to substain a 500mA output current at 5volt which mean 2.5watt
that would suck a normal phone dry pretty fast
SeanFromSoCal said:
Your phone doesn't have USB hosting capabilities. It has to way to run another USB device. I don't think that is ever going to be planned into the development road map of PPCs and Win Mobile.
Also I just don't see why you would want to tether your phone to an external hard drive especially with 8gb+ mini/micro SDs coming to market and the ability to download your desired files from the internet or a VPN on the fly.
What you may see is Wifi and Bluetooth storage devices being wirelessly connected to your phone. It might even be possible now -- can anyone link up with a Zune to their phone via wifi?
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I guess that's a good point about an external hard drive not being needed. You could always run orb or a similar client which basically does the same as hooking up the hard drive. Well, thanks for clarifying anyway.
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Hi, i have been reading about this, and i am getting conflicting information, and no real answer.
I have a 2.5" USB hard drive, and was wondering is there any way to plug this into the Magician, and then for the magician to see it as storage. I dont want to use it all the time, just when in the car, and plugged into the Car Stereo.
if its just a case of a lead convertion, then i think it would be simple, but if not.... hmmm.
So if anyone can help i'd be grateful
Thanks
Dahquim
This has been answered several times before, and should be possible to find by SEARCHING..
How ever, because I'm in a good mood, I shall answer..
Yes, it is THEORETICALLY possible.
To acheive this, you must gain USB host on your Magician.
This can be done in two ways: Backpack + CF card with host support or a SDIO card with host support.
This can be bought from several suppliers.
Then, it's the driver issue.
A USB disk should be usable on the WM200x OS, but I do not know the size limit.
It might be about 2GB or it could be lots more.
So in real life; NO you can't use a USB HDD with your Magician.
This MIGHT be possible with the new Universal, but we haven't got confirmation that it has USB host support yet.
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You might be able to do it if you can get a device that has host support.
Kinda like those gadgets that connects digital cameras to HDDs..
It just occurred to me..
How ever, It might be hard to use the magician to controle the data flow..
You'll probably need two connections to the device.
One for telling the device what to send, and one to receive..
Maybe, but unlikely...
chack out this things:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat_download/applicationnotes/AN10034_2.pdf
..this is a pseudo-host controller for PDA but i don't know were can find such a thing...
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/connectivity/wired/usb/products/otg/overview/#what
http://www.heisei.com.tw/products/2_5-inch_otg_hdd_enclosure/
http://www.cooldrives.com/usbotgshcou2.html
The PXA27x processor inside the magician does support USB-on-the-go...
If you look at the USB connector in the magician, you will see that it is actually a MiniAB connector...
So, from the pure hardware point of view, the magician should actually be able to operate in host mode and, for example, control an external hard drive/pendrive, or even a keyboard...
The point is, that most likely, there's no usb-on-the-go driver provided with the operating system...
IMHO, I think it be a waste. These devices we have are not meant to host power hungry device like a 2.5' HDD. It be a waste to what our devices would be known as "mobile." I think better stick to SD technology but that is also another issue. As the cards get larger and larger, the more processing time and power is required to fetch data and back.
there could be a way ....
After reading this thread, I think there is a possible way of actually having certain types of storages connect to the xdaii. I've seen some bluetooth 40gb hardadrives that connect to the pc. They connect using two methods. The first method connects the harddrive as a wireless storage device and the other method connects the hard drive as a bluetooth network storage. Now as for the second method, it's actually supported in broadcom's and widcomm's pda drivers. So in theory, your device should detect the harddrive as a local computer on your bluetooth network. But now, the main question is, can the bluetooth data transfer speed be sufficient to allow mp3 playback without lagging and frame drops ?? Well that's one questions I'd sure like to know the answer for. Anyways, just liked to share this info with u, it could be useful to u or for others on this forum. Good luck.
can we use this thing for i-mate jam with sdio wi-fi card:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119929&partner=register
http://www.hardavenue.com/reviews/asuswlhdd2.shtml
I'm fed up with the clunky way which bluetooth transfers files between my MS laptop and my HTC Touch Pro (and any other device it would seem).
I'm fed up with three or four attempts to get it to work in the first place, I'm fed up with having to approve every single data connection - I have after all paired the devices, please just transfer the files.
Does anyone know of a decent bit of software, either winmo or Windoze that will allow me to browse the other device, grab or send the files I want and just do it without all the fuss I seem to be getting?
Thanks in advance.
get wifi remote access. search for it.
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get wifi remote access. search for it.
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I had it, but couldn't get it to work on an ad-hoc (peer to peer) connection, then it stopped working altogether.
Maybe I should try again...thanks.
maybe you should just get a usb card reader. or an adapter if your laptop has a card reader already.
I have a USB card reader, and leads to connect the phone to the computer, but this is the 21st century folks, and I have two devices that can connect without wires, but it's about as easy, and friendly as, well, something that isn't easy or friendly.
The phone should see the computer, and vice versa, and file transfer should be as easy as if they were the same device.
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I have a USB card reader, and leads to connect the phone to the computer, but this is the 21st century folks, and I have two devices that can connect without wires, but it's about as easy, and friendly as, well, something that isn't easy or friendly.
The phone should see the computer, and vice versa, and file transfer should be as easy as if they were the same device.
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what bluetooth stack do you have on your laptop?
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what bluetooth stack do you have on your laptop?
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I have:
Bluetooth Stack for Windows by Toshiba
v7.00.08(T)
it's really clunky. (I might have said).
I have a MyTouch 3G that I rooted and run Cyanogen on.
I recently got a new G2 (hate that its not perma-rooted yet) and have my SIM card in it.
So... what cool things can I do with my old MyTouch without cellular data connection (besides the obvious mp3 player, gaming device, etc)? Its a small computer with usb, bluetooth, wifi, gps, and a camera.
Some ideas:
Is it possible to make it a bluetooth receiver for music? If so, I could have it permanently hooked up to a car stereo via 3.5mm cable and then other things could connect to it via bluetooth. This would be useful for my parent's RV which has an aux input but no bluetooth.
Can turn it into a security device and stream video?... either stream it to another computer on the network which runs a webserver, or run a webserver on the android device itself?
Can you turn it into a USB trackpad to plug into any computer?
I know you can plug the phone into a computer and it appears as external storage, but can you plug external storage into the phone? Could I buy a huge 1Tb+ external hard drive and let this thing be a fileserver (or anything a SheevaPlug / PogoPlug can do?)
Can it become a wireless repeater?
Is anybody doing any of these things now?
What are you doing with your old device?
I expect ROMs out there geared towards a single purpose as more and more people get Android devices then upgrade to newer Android devices.
USB Host mode - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/7609-qusb-host-enabled-kernel-for-the-g1dream/
If only someone would come up with a more ready-to-go solution...
Nothing under his g1 folder.
This fails...
wget ww2.cs.fsu.edu/~mitchell/android/g1/g1-cm-kern-2.6.34-ehci-v1.patch
Another set of patches - http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/projects/framik/USB-host/
Just a general question and maybe something that no one ever really thought was useful. Is it possible plug an external hard drive into my android phone via a usb cable, and then access those files on that device. It is cumbersome but I have come across a situation where I would like to use my phone as a usb server and have it access these files on my external hard drive. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
i have never heard of this. i personally don't think it's possible man. but you never know. if there is something its DEFINITELY not public.
Yeah its definitely not normal, was hoping it may be built into a custom rom or something along those lines.
If your hardware supports USB host functionality, check out
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
Hi, Hoping there are some out there that have experience with file transfer from an Android phone. I am somewhat new to the arena and it looks like there is apps out there but I'm wondering if there is an all in one for my needs... I would like to be able to:
Transfer larger files from my phone to my NAS (Diskstation) and my PS4. At home wireless might not be the fastest but probably the most practical. I have tried BubbleUpnp but it looks like all I can do is stream from the phone to a device, not transfer the files. If I have that wrong please let me know. Also I've had times when in Hotel rooms the wireless is not strong enough to transfer files, and would like to be able to transfer from phone to PS4 over USB if possible. If that amounts to a couple different apps that's ok, just was trying to make this as simple as possible. Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: I have a Motorola Droid Turbo 2
GLE3 said:
Hi, Hoping there are some out there that have experience with file transfer from an Android phone. I am somewhat new to the arena and it looks like there is apps out there but I'm wondering if there is an all in one for my needs... I would like to be able to:
Transfer larger files from my phone to my NAS (Diskstation) and my PS4. At home wireless might not be the fastest but probably the most practical. I have tried BubbleUpnp but it looks like all I can do is stream from the phone to a device, not transfer the files. If I have that wrong please let me know. Also I've had times when in Hotel rooms the wireless is not strong enough to transfer files, and would like to be able to transfer from phone to PS4 over USB if possible. If that amounts to a couple different apps that's ok, just was trying to make this as simple as possible. Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: I have a Motorola Droid Turbo 2
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Ok, that didn't go well.. How about just this. I have an SD card formatted to FAT32. I plug my phone via cable into my ps4, select transfer files in the automatic menu that pops y on the phone and my ps4 doesn't recognize it. Is there a way to get my phone to recognize the storage while in the phone and through USB? Must I take it out of the phone and put into a USB reader? Thanks for any help..
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Ok, that didn't go well.. How about just this. I have an SD card formatted to FAT32. I plug my phone via cable into my ps4, select transfer files in the automatic menu that pops y on the phone and my ps4 doesn't recognize it. Is there a way to get my phone to recognize the storage while in the phone and through USB? Must I take it out of the phone and put into a USB reader? Thanks for any help..
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You do have a few options:
1. get an OTG (on the go) micro usb to full usb (female) adapter, attach a usb stick to your phone using the adapter, copy the files to the stick and pack to the ps4
2. ES File Explorer is an app that supports file transfer over http (amongs other things) and through it's help section it shows you how to do it if you do not know how. however that requires that the ps4's internal drive is shared over your network.
Hope that helps
GLE3 said:
Hi, Hoping there are some out there that have experience with file transfer from an Android phone. I am somewhat new to the arena and it looks like there is apps out there but I'm wondering if there is an all in one for my needs... I would like to be able to:
Transfer larger files from my phone to my NAS (Diskstation) and my PS4. At home wireless might not be the fastest but probably the most practical. I have tried BubbleUpnp but it looks like all I can do is stream from the phone to a device, not transfer the files. If I have that wrong please let me know. Also I've had times when in Hotel rooms the wireless is not strong enough to transfer files, and would like to be able to transfer from phone to PS4 over USB if possible. If that amounts to a couple different apps that's ok, just was trying to make this as simple as possible. Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: I have a Motorola Droid Turbo 2
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Maybe this will simplify some things for you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77134367&postcount=26829
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metallas said:
You do have a few options:
1. get an OTG (on the go) micro usb to full usb (female) adapter, attach a usb stick to your phone using the adapter, copy the files to the stick and pack to the ps4
2. ES File Explorer is an app that supports file transfer over http (amongs other things) and through it's help section it shows you how to do it if you do not know how. however that requires that the ps4's internal drive is shared over your network.
Hope that helps
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Thanks, the otg is a good idea, need to find one with a keychain. Never been able to keep track of a USB stick for very long. Anyone happen to know why some phones are recognized and some aren't through a USB cable?
GLE3 said:
Thanks, the otg is a good idea, need to find one with a keychain. Never been able to keep track of a USB stick for very long. Anyone happen to know why some phones are recognized and some aren't through a USB cable?
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Here's the thing.
It depends on the phone itself. Some phones, when connected to pc/other devices are recognised as mass storage devices (like any other usb stick).
Most phones though, especially after android 4.4 are recognised as mtp (media transfer protocol) devices, meaning that it depends on the target device (pc/ps4/etc) on how its is going to be handled or managed.