Hi, i have been reading about this, and i am getting conflicting information, and no real answer.
I have a 2.5" USB hard drive, and was wondering is there any way to plug this into the Magician, and then for the magician to see it as storage. I dont want to use it all the time, just when in the car, and plugged into the Car Stereo.
if its just a case of a lead convertion, then i think it would be simple, but if not.... hmmm.
So if anyone can help i'd be grateful
Thanks
Dahquim
This has been answered several times before, and should be possible to find by SEARCHING..
How ever, because I'm in a good mood, I shall answer..
Yes, it is THEORETICALLY possible.
To acheive this, you must gain USB host on your Magician.
This can be done in two ways: Backpack + CF card with host support or a SDIO card with host support.
This can be bought from several suppliers.
Then, it's the driver issue.
A USB disk should be usable on the WM200x OS, but I do not know the size limit.
It might be about 2GB or it could be lots more.
So in real life; NO you can't use a USB HDD with your Magician.
This MIGHT be possible with the new Universal, but we haven't got confirmation that it has USB host support yet.
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You might be able to do it if you can get a device that has host support.
Kinda like those gadgets that connects digital cameras to HDDs..
It just occurred to me..
How ever, It might be hard to use the magician to controle the data flow..
You'll probably need two connections to the device.
One for telling the device what to send, and one to receive..
Maybe, but unlikely...
chack out this things:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat_download/applicationnotes/AN10034_2.pdf
..this is a pseudo-host controller for PDA but i don't know were can find such a thing...
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/connectivity/wired/usb/products/otg/overview/#what
http://www.heisei.com.tw/products/2_5-inch_otg_hdd_enclosure/
http://www.cooldrives.com/usbotgshcou2.html
The PXA27x processor inside the magician does support USB-on-the-go...
If you look at the USB connector in the magician, you will see that it is actually a MiniAB connector...
So, from the pure hardware point of view, the magician should actually be able to operate in host mode and, for example, control an external hard drive/pendrive, or even a keyboard...
The point is, that most likely, there's no usb-on-the-go driver provided with the operating system...
IMHO, I think it be a waste. These devices we have are not meant to host power hungry device like a 2.5' HDD. It be a waste to what our devices would be known as "mobile." I think better stick to SD technology but that is also another issue. As the cards get larger and larger, the more processing time and power is required to fetch data and back.
there could be a way ....
After reading this thread, I think there is a possible way of actually having certain types of storages connect to the xdaii. I've seen some bluetooth 40gb hardadrives that connect to the pc. They connect using two methods. The first method connects the harddrive as a wireless storage device and the other method connects the hard drive as a bluetooth network storage. Now as for the second method, it's actually supported in broadcom's and widcomm's pda drivers. So in theory, your device should detect the harddrive as a local computer on your bluetooth network. But now, the main question is, can the bluetooth data transfer speed be sufficient to allow mp3 playback without lagging and frame drops ?? Well that's one questions I'd sure like to know the answer for. Anyways, just liked to share this info with u, it could be useful to u or for others on this forum. Good luck.
can we use this thing for i-mate jam with sdio wi-fi card:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119929&partner=register
http://www.hardavenue.com/reviews/asuswlhdd2.shtml
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Hi everyone
One thing that really annoyes me about the xda is that you have to go through a relatively complicated process in order to ascertain who is calling before you decide to answer the phone or reject it. So I've been wondering about an accessory that could change all that.
Since the xda2 has an I/O port (formally usb), wouldn't it be great if there was a way to hook up a small lcd display to a usb cord that could allow users to find out whose calling. It could be extended to become a fully functioning remote control for the xda / 2 including dialing numbers, selecting different mp3's etc.
Many thanks for reading
Brimful
i agree
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usb devices is devided up into master and slaves
himalaya and the rest (even though there were mixed answers about universal) are slaves and cant init connections to other usb slaves and masters
but the button connector in the himalay also have a old serial port type of connection which can init connection
and then there is the SDIO card interface where only the SD card manufactors set the limit what what you can do (within reason)
I'm just wondering, is it possible to use a mini USB hard drive such as this one: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...1&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=25682&lid=585550
to extend a phone's memory?
My guess is that it wouldn't work since the hard drive is bus powered. It would probably take some sort of special formatting. But has anyone ever tried this?
Your phone doesn't have USB hosting capabilities. It has to way to run another USB device. I don't think that is ever going to be planned into the development road map of PPCs and Win Mobile.
Also I just don't see why you would want to tether your phone to an external hard drive especially with 8gb+ mini/micro SDs coming to market and the ability to download your desired files from the internet or a VPN on the fly.
What you may see is Wifi and Bluetooth storage devices being wirelessly connected to your phone. It might even be possible now -- can anyone link up with a Zune to their phone via wifi?
some have like flame and Athena
think the main problem is that usb host mean one
have to substain a 500mA output current at 5volt which mean 2.5watt
that would suck a normal phone dry pretty fast
SeanFromSoCal said:
Your phone doesn't have USB hosting capabilities. It has to way to run another USB device. I don't think that is ever going to be planned into the development road map of PPCs and Win Mobile.
Also I just don't see why you would want to tether your phone to an external hard drive especially with 8gb+ mini/micro SDs coming to market and the ability to download your desired files from the internet or a VPN on the fly.
What you may see is Wifi and Bluetooth storage devices being wirelessly connected to your phone. It might even be possible now -- can anyone link up with a Zune to their phone via wifi?
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I guess that's a good point about an external hard drive not being needed. You could always run orb or a similar client which basically does the same as hooking up the hard drive. Well, thanks for clarifying anyway.
Hi!
I want to use my G1 to do some special measurements. For this purpose I've created a microcontroller board (Atmel ATmega8) that does that. Now I want to transfer the data the board collected to the Android phone.
Because of the high powerconsumption the G1 has while Bluetooth is on this isn't a real alternative for me - the measurements will last about 2 - 3 hours.
I'm not experienced concerning hardware access within Linux and Android but thought there might be a possibility to gain a kind of low level access to the USB port. I do neither need high bandwith nor real USB functionality - so might it be possible to create an own kind of bus using that interface? Do you have any other idea?
Thank you in advance!
If you use micro linux system, the ones that are like a usb port, a network jack and a vga connecter, you could script some adb commands and have it run every few seconds to upload the data, not an ideal solution. As far as I know the g1 doesn't support host mode. But if you have a micro linux computer in the middle, it could work.
Something like this
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/08/27/a-real-space-oddity-arrives-at-pc-pro/
I'm sure there are other ways to do it, maybe check there how to make a serial port thread a few pages back in the dev section.
I'm fed up with the clunky way which bluetooth transfers files between my MS laptop and my HTC Touch Pro (and any other device it would seem).
I'm fed up with three or four attempts to get it to work in the first place, I'm fed up with having to approve every single data connection - I have after all paired the devices, please just transfer the files.
Does anyone know of a decent bit of software, either winmo or Windoze that will allow me to browse the other device, grab or send the files I want and just do it without all the fuss I seem to be getting?
Thanks in advance.
get wifi remote access. search for it.
josefcrist said:
get wifi remote access. search for it.
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I had it, but couldn't get it to work on an ad-hoc (peer to peer) connection, then it stopped working altogether.
Maybe I should try again...thanks.
maybe you should just get a usb card reader. or an adapter if your laptop has a card reader already.
I have a USB card reader, and leads to connect the phone to the computer, but this is the 21st century folks, and I have two devices that can connect without wires, but it's about as easy, and friendly as, well, something that isn't easy or friendly.
The phone should see the computer, and vice versa, and file transfer should be as easy as if they were the same device.
66mustang said:
I have a USB card reader, and leads to connect the phone to the computer, but this is the 21st century folks, and I have two devices that can connect without wires, but it's about as easy, and friendly as, well, something that isn't easy or friendly.
The phone should see the computer, and vice versa, and file transfer should be as easy as if they were the same device.
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what bluetooth stack do you have on your laptop?
josefcrist said:
what bluetooth stack do you have on your laptop?
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I have:
Bluetooth Stack for Windows by Toshiba
v7.00.08(T)
it's really clunky. (I might have said).
I've searched for this for 2 hours so, trigger-happy users, don't flame me.
I was looking for a samba server style app that would make the Hd2 appear as a drive on the computer.
I presume these type of network transfers would be faster than a standard ftp or usb (it
If you need further clarification then have a look at this app I was using on my old N95 called SymNAS:
http://symnas.com/Products/ProductInfo.aspx
Basically it will turn the phone into a NAS drive (Network Attached Storage)
If anyone can help me, it would be much appreciated.
I seriously doubt it would faster than usb ...
Unless you have a 400MB wireless network ...
but regardless of speed I have looked for this as well, there are apps that let you transfer files to the phone over wifi but have not seen one that lets it act as a network drive ... yet ....
The HTC network plugin lets you map a drive on your phone though ....
So would you recommend:
a. remove micro sd and use an adapter
b. use usb cable and choose mass storage drive
are they both the same thing?
Are there any other methods of high speed file transfer that i am unaware of ?