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Unable to Update Tilt - Unknown USB device

I am using a OCT 07 version of Dutty's update and its been working well.
Don't use activesync except for copying apps over to phone.
Noticed that I have lost the ability to use activesync. My phone is longer recogized by 3 laptops and one desktop.
When I had this problem with my 8125 I would go to settings, connections, "USB to PC" and disable the check box to "Enable advanced network functionality" and my phone would show up again. Tried it with my Tilt and it didn't change anything.
Thinking I am missing something here. While I wasn't using Activesync to sync up my contacts and rather just to move programs to my micro SD card. Without Activesync I cannot update my ROM (its an addiction). I do not believe its an issue on the PC but rather with the Tilt at this time.
I have hard reset a couple of times and still having this problem. I use Sprite backup and am able to restore my phone after the hard reset.
Just to check went to boot loader mode to check and see my hardspl update is still there. It is there. When I plug in my usb cable - see the switch from serial to USB but RUU doesn't communicate with mobile phone.
Any suggestions?

Have you deleted the device in the active sync and rebooted the computer and see if it recognizes it then?

THis happens to me sometimes.
Try using a different USB cable. For some reason some cables (my docking station for instance) causes this problem!

So far have tried -
Removing partnership in activesync - on two PC's - still not working
Removing and updating activesync - on two PCs - still not working
I don't believe its an activesync problem but rather a phone problem.
Started up my "old" Cingular 8125 and tried it with docking station and two mini usb cables and it is recognized by all.
Looking at the mini usb port on the 8125 it appears to be intact but there is a small crack on one side of it - but it still works fine.
It could be a micro-usb problem. Not sure. Audio works, it appears to be charging ok.
I do use a cradle at home, office and each car. I used a magnifying glass/lamp combo to look better and it appears that all the pins are straight.
Never having looked though I am not sure what I am looking for.
Tried another cable - still same - "USB device not recognized"

Mini USB port version
I have Old model - with visible "holes" in the plug.
The New model doesn't have visible holes.
Is there a tool of sorts which shows pin connectivity on the PC side or HTC side?

Cable
Tried my cable (mini USB to standard USB) in the office today and it worked! The two at home and three computers there have historically worked since I got the ATT Tilt. Odd?
Further testing in the offices with three other cables didn't work. Plugging the one that worked into my docking station also did not work. Tested the "HTC" combo mini USB and Audio adapter didn't work.
Noticed the pins are more pronounced on the one cable that work.
So will be taking my cable home to try there with the "other" computers.
This is leaving me to think that its definitely a problem with the pins on the mini USP connector on the HTC Kaiser/Tilt. I can't see any bent but may only "flattened" a bit.
I did find a place which will service device installing a new mini USB plug for $60 including shipping. Will post link.

^^ Did you ever get the link. I think I have the same problem.

Raphael - USB Host?

I am wondering whether or not the Raphael has USB Host functionality? I read this on some internet sites, but searching the Wiki and other avaliable informative websites couldn't bring light to this issue. I know that HTCs ExtUSB only is a proprietary connector, enhancing the USB Port with audio and video functionality. This is not what I'm talking about!
Host USB allows devices to act as an USB host (like a computer) and as such access USB-Devices like harddrives or USB sticks, which is more than convinient. As some other Pocket PC have it, I'm hoping deeply my future playmate has it also.
Maybe some of the lucky users could verify?
Thanks!

Doesn't look like it'll have any host facility no. The only HTC device ive seen with host are the bigger HTC Advantage's which have a normal USB port. I dont think the Qualcomm chipset offers USB host either.

This would be a nice thing to have...
I am still owner of a PocketLoox 720 which is capable of accessing USB sticks and USB HD.

It'd be nice. But I guess it would eat the battery.
I think I saw somewhere a USB bluetooth thingy that enables you to read USB sticks via Bluetooth.

well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).

cmonex said:
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
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What an interesting feature... Maybe it's for service centres to unbrick warranty returns easily?
Rory

cmonex said:
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
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Have you tried with the Athena USB host cable?

Pantaloonie said:
Have you tried with the Athena USB host cable?
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oh hmm. does that cable plug in the miniusb port of the athena?

cmonex said:
oh hmm. does that cable plug in the miniusb port of the athena?
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Yes it does, I was hoping it would work with the Diamond and Raphael.

Pantaloonie said:
Yes it does, I was hoping it would work with the Diamond and Raphael.
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mm, thought it plugged in the other port on the athena...because it also handles vga out (the 4 in 1 cable). and this other port (beside the miniusb sync port) has the icons vga out and usb host.
that is clearly not the same socket as the miniusb (i.e. the sync port).
the diamond & raphael unfortunately only have this miniusb (which is for the sync on athena).

You're right - It's been so long since I used the USB host on the Athena I'd forgotten which port it uses.
Back to the drawing board on that one I guess.

Pantaloonie said:
You're right - It's been so long since I used the USB host on the Athena I'd forgotten which port it uses.
Back to the drawing board on that one I guess.
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yeah, I also have the 4 in 1 somewhere in the drawer
I only got it to have all cool accessories for my Athena.
anyway, I'll update the thread if I find out more about the cable needed for diamond/raphael

I read in the Diamond service manual (foeund somewhere on the forum here) about using an USB SD-card reader on the sync port on the Diamond. It is used when servicing the phone to upload firmware and test software to the internal storage.
On the picture it looks just like a normal sd card reader that is plugged into a standard USB port on one of the ends on the cable. it is a Y cable where one end is power, one USB and one mini usb to plug in the phone.
I am just doing some tests on this now. I made a usb cable with mini usb in one end and normal usb in the other end. On the on ememstick I have here in the office nothing happens.I will continue to look into this matter.

holy moses. I got something working here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to rebuild my cable a little bit here to get this working.
The new external USB port is now powered from a 5Volts source. I have cut the 5 volts connection between my Diamond and my USB memory.
I am using a standard USB flash memory which i got at some commercial stuff long time ago.
I formatted the USB stick to FAT32 on my computer first.
The thing I tried was:
downloade a custom firmware.
copied the xxx.nbh file to the flash
renamed it to "DIAMIMG.NBH" Capital letters!!
Started up the phone holding VOLUME DOWN and RIGHT button down while giving the power button a short push.
It fired up the Olimex boot scene and asked me to push power button to confirm flashing.
After that it flashed my phone for about 10 minutes (from the USB flash memory)
So there is NO DOUBT, the Diamond has USB master capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
Can anyone try to flash a phone with an un signed firmware or a firmware from wrong region on a phone that has the original bootloader using this method?

Does anyone know how to use external memory by usb hosting

zeb crs said:
holy moses. I got something working here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to rebuild my cable a little bit here to get this working.
The new external USB port is now powered from a 5Volts source. I have cut the 5 volts connection between my Diamond and my USB memory.
I am using a standard USB flash memory which i got at some commercial stuff long time ago.
I formatted the USB stick to FAT32 on my computer first.
The thing I tried was:
downloade a custom firmware.
copied the xxx.nbh file to the flash
renamed it to "DIAMIMG.NBH" Capital letters!!
Started up the phone holding VOLUME DOWN and RIGHT button down while giving the power button a short push.
It fired up the Olimex boot scene and asked me to push power button to confirm flashing.
After that it flashed my phone for about 10 minutes (from the USB flash memory)
So there is NO DOUBT, the Diamond has USB master capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
Can anyone try to flash a phone with an un signed firmware or a firmware from wrong region on a phone that has the original bootloader using this method?
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heh, you were faster at building the cable congrats.
btw, what special modifications did you need to make? just the 5V source?
anyway, this just confirms what i found in bootloader disassembly then.
not sure on the availability of usb host drivers. maybe we will need to implement it ourselves
and sorry, but i do not understand the question about flashing unsigned stuff. the stock bootloader will not accept unsigned NBH, no matter where it comes from, sorry to disappoint you.
EDIT: I downloaded the service manual now, thanks. wasn't aware this was out in the open
anyway, the text mentions you must plug in AC power for the USB host. what a shame.

zeb crs said:
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
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Just an idea, have you tried to start WM5torage on Diamond ?
It lists the MovieNAND and the system partition. OK, you can't take access to it, but maybe WM5torage recognizes the USB stick from OS.
If it does, maybe a modified version of WM5torage can do these job ?
For short test download here:
WM5torage
Ok, WM5torage isn't the right way to test the access from OS, because it needs at last a running driver.
Qualcomm was running Oxford Semiconductor solutions, maybe the integrated USB OTG is a license from this company ?
@cmonex:
Is it possible to adapt the integrated bootloader driver to WM ?

USB drive is HTC supported
I just read through the US user manual and Section 1.13 Using you Device as a USB Drive. http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf
Quote:
To easily carry media and other files with you, you can use your device’s storage
card as a USB flash drive. Touch Start > Settings > Connections tab > USB to PC
and then select Disk Drive mode. This allows you to copy files from your computer
to the device’s storage card and vice versa faster.
Note You need to have a storage card installed on your device to be able to use your device
as a disk drive.
When Disk Drive mode is used:
You will not be able to use your device to access files from the storage card
or run applications that are installed on the storage card while the device is
connected to your PC.
Your PC will only connect to the device’s storage card. When you access your
device from the PC, you will only see the contents of the device’s storage card.
Remember to change back to ActiveSync mode when you need to synchronize
data between your device and your PC.

USB Host is different.

Mechanicaldan said:
I just read through the US user manual and Section 1.13 Using you Device as a USB Drive. http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf
Quote:
To easily carry media and other files with you, you can use your device’s storage
card as a USB flash drive. Touch Start > Settings > Connections tab > USB to PC
and then select Disk Drive mode. This allows you to copy files from your computer
to the device’s storage card and vice versa faster.
Note You need to have a storage card installed on your device to be able to use your device
as a disk drive.
When Disk Drive mode is used:
You will not be able to use your device to access files from the storage card
or run applications that are installed on the storage card while the device is
connected to your PC.
Your PC will only connect to the device’s storage card. When you access your
device from the PC, you will only see the contents of the device’s storage card.
Remember to change back to ActiveSync mode when you need to synchronize
data between your device and your PC.
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but this is just the other way arround. This enables you to use your phone as a flash drive from a PC. In this thread they want to access a flash drive (USB stick/HD etc) from their phone

PC's don't see my Fuze no more?

I haven't plugged my fuze into any PC's for a couple of months - last time I did it was with a Windows 7 machine and it worked fine....
Well - now I'm trying to get the thing to sync with an XP machine. When I plug it into the usb, I see the fuze is charging - but activesync never comes up and nothing on the pc indicates that is saw me do this.
I've tried with 3 different XP machines here today - and none of them realize I've plugged anything in when I connect my fuze?
Soo...must be something with my fuze? Anyone have any ideas?
Only thing I saw was in settings/connections/usb to pc
there is an option for "enable advanced network functionality" - which I have disabled.
FYI I'm running WM 6.5 on it....

All previous reports of this issue ended with bad USB port on Fuze but you may want to search and read a couple of the threads first.

Interesting.
I can't seem to find any of these treads - can you point me to any?
Seems rather odd that if the port was bad that the phone would still charge though....

Let me ask you this, you say that you changed your PC to USB settings to Enable Advanced network functionality, I thought this setting was in Active Sync. USB to PC setting should be to "enable faster data transmission". Have you played with both settings?
Here is one recent thread and I know I saw another that mentioned the device would charge but not sync.
Here are many more threads regarding AS issues.

Bruce Inman said:
Let me ask you this, you say that you changed your PC to USB settings to Enable Advanced network functionality, I thought this setting was in Active Sync. USB to PC setting should be to "enable faster data transmission". Have you played with both settings?
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I'm using WM 6.5 - and there I see:
settings/connections/USBtoPC
..that brings up a window which has settings on the behavior of the device when you connect it to a pc via USB. The options are to a) ActiveSync or b) DiskDrive
If you select a) ActiveSync you can "enable advanced network functionality"
There is also an option at the bottom that will cause it to ask which connection type to use when you connect.
I've tried all possible combinations - my pc does nothing when I connect, but I *do* see the fuze charging...freakn strange!

Have you tried to connect through an emulator like MyMobiler?
Its most likely a driver issue on your phone.
Hate to say it but.....
If all else fails, Hard Reset, flash back to stock ROM (if you've flashed a cooked ROM) and this should restore the corrupt driver.

Bruce Inman said:
Have you tried to connect through an emulator like MyMobiler?
Its most likely a driver issue on your phone.
Hate to say it but.....
If all else fails, Hard Reset, flash back to stock ROM (if you've flashed a cooked ROM) and this should restore the corrupt driver.
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MyMobiler uses activesync to connect so that won't really be of any help at this point...
I was considering doing a hard-reset - but MAN I have about 140 apps installed and configured so I really hate doing that. What would be nice is if I could just find the driver and try that.
So that I suppose is my next question - anyone got the driver? hahaha

I use Pocket Controller which can use an IP address instead, I assumed MyMoblier was similar.
Copy the enclosed .dll to your windows directory using something like total commander because it is a cooked in system file. It still may not allow it though.
You should also look into Sashimi restoral program, as it is not uncommon to have to hard reset occassionally.
Good luck!

Is a firewall blocking it?
Each time I want to sync my Fuze, I have to disable my firewall. For some reason, even when I open the correct ports, my Fuze will not sync to Windows Mobile Device Center on my Vista Ultimate (32-bit) laptop.
Once it connects, I can turn the firewall back on and everything works fine. New and changed items will continue to sync until the Fuze is disconnected from laptop.
You may have already checked this and/or things may be different with XP and AS, but since I didn't specifically see it in the post, I thought I would throw it out there.

Bad cable???
I decided to try a different mini-usb cable and it worked.
Here is what is strange though - the bad cable:
1. Still charges the phone when connected to a PC
2. Works fine with my external 500gig USB hard drive (which also is powered via the cable)
3. ...but no computers see the phone with this cable - or see it as a storage device.
Because of #1 and #2 above - I assumed the cable must be good. I had another cable so I figured I'd give it a shot - and sure enough with this cable it works with all the computers.
I guess there must be one bad pin or something with the cable - or something??? Guess it must use different ones than the external hard-drive apparently.
Oh well - at least it works and rather it be a $2 cable than my $200 phone...hahaha
Thanks everyone for the suggestions....

For what it's worth if anyone stumbles across this post in the future, I had a similar issue happen where it would bring up the usb menu on my fuze when you plug it in, but the computer wouldn't see it.
I had recently swapped the display/touchscreen, and it was one of the strips of metal ground/shielding tape inside the thing being mispositioned that did it.
Put it back together with everything in the right place and boom! works.
If you've taken the phone apart, those pieces of shielding tape are very important to get back exactly like they were, I've also seen lcd issues from it.

Samba Server/ Drive Mapping

I've searched for this for 2 hours so, trigger-happy users, don't flame me.
I was looking for a samba server style app that would make the Hd2 appear as a drive on the computer.
I presume these type of network transfers would be faster than a standard ftp or usb (it
If you need further clarification then have a look at this app I was using on my old N95 called SymNAS:
http://symnas.com/Products/ProductInfo.aspx
Basically it will turn the phone into a NAS drive (Network Attached Storage)
If anyone can help me, it would be much appreciated.

I seriously doubt it would faster than usb ...
Unless you have a 400MB wireless network ...
but regardless of speed I have looked for this as well, there are apps that let you transfer files to the phone over wifi but have not seen one that lets it act as a network drive ... yet ....
The HTC network plugin lets you map a drive on your phone though ....

So would you recommend:
a. remove micro sd and use an adapter
b. use usb cable and choose mass storage drive
are they both the same thing?

Are there any other methods of high speed file transfer that i am unaware of ?

[Q] WM 6.5 - 'Charge Only Mode'

I am looking for a tweak\tool\registry hack (if possible) to have a Charge Only Mode for Windows Mobile 6.5 if at all it is possible. Most of the times, I am at office using my HD2 (Dual boot with 6.5 and DarkStone Android ) connected to the Laptop and it would be great if I can just connect it to my laptop without choosing either of the three options
1. ActiveSync
2. USB Storage Mode
3. Internet Sharing
P.S : I did lot of search for this option but was unable to find it and hence started this thread...but I will be more than happy if anyone can redirect me to an existing thread if any, for the same issue.

When your phone is charging off the laptop do you actually use any apps on it?
I'm like you in that I spend 2 days a week with my phone charging from the laptop, but I never use it for anything other than phone calls, so selecting disk drive does the job for me.
Any apps I'd need, I'd make sure were installed on the device.

bamit99 said:
I am looking for a tweak\tool\registry hack (if possible) to have a Charge Only Mode for Windows Mobile 6.5 if at all it is possible. Most of the times, I am at office using my HD2 (Dual boot with 6.5 and DarkStone Android ) connected to the Laptop and it would be great if I can just connect it to my laptop without choosing either of the three options
1. ActiveSync
2. USB Storage Mode
3. Internet Sharing
P.S : I did lot of search for this option but was unable to find it and hence started this thread...but I will be more than happy if anyone can redirect me to an existing thread if any, for the same issue.
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Better use the active sync or the mass storage mode..As it is you wont be needing to install apps on your memory card thanks to the massive storage of the HD2 compared to the older WM devices...This shouldn't be a problem IMHO...
Cheers.

Ive got a really easy fix for this, just use a different cable, you can get cables or adaptors that will charge only and wont sync. When you want to sync just change the cable or take off the adaptor.
btw... such an adaptor is only £2.50 from amazon for my phone

bamit99 said:
...it would be great if I can just connect it to my laptop without choosing either of the three options
1. ActiveSync
2. USB Storage Mode
3. Internet Sharing
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This doesn't stop the action as such, but when you connect your phone to PC, with the 3 options you listed, there should be a a check box at the bottom "Don't ask me again", so whatever you choose will automatically happen next time (choosing USB storage will therefore not ativate ActiveSync/Device Centre on your PC. This can also be found under Settings->Other (miscellaneous settings)->USB to PC (see attachment).
Or, just use a wall socket charger?

Hi,
Thanks for your replies ! The reason I asked this question is because I do not have a Data Plan on Phone. I only use Wifi at home and office and Active Sync kills it. Data storage mode won't let me use the Storage which I kinda need (Don't ask me why? ) and ofcourse Internet sharing Mode just sends the phone into a crazy 'Connecting 3G Network'...loop.
Anyways, I think using the Charge Only Cable should do the trick for now..But I still feel that this mode will be helpful for few rares like me...Love tis mode in Android.

bamit99 said:
Hi,
Thanks for your replies ! The reason I asked this question is because I do not have a Data Plan on Phone. I only use Wifi at home and office and Active Sync kills it. Data storage mode won't let me use the Storage which I kinda need (Don't ask me why? ) and ofcourse Internet sharing Mode just sends the phone into a crazy 'Connecting 3G Network'...loop.
Anyways, I think using the Charge Only Cable should do the trick for now..But I still feel that this mode will be helpful for few rares like me...Love tis mode in Android.
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ActiveSync does not kill my Wifi - make sure the 'Allow wireless connections on device...' is checked under File->Connections Settings. Also ActiveSync should allow your phone to use your PC's internet connection (pass through) anyway.
The other thing to try is to delete the mobile device from within ActiveSsync as if you've never synced it before and when you next connect it it will ask you to set up a relationship but click cancel and - viola - should now just charge.

agrickard said:
ActiveSync does not kill my Wifi - make sure the 'Allow wireless connections on device...' is checked under File->Connections Settings. Also ActiveSync should allow your phone to use your PC's internet connection (pass through) anyway.
The other thing to try is to delete the mobile device from within ActiveSsync as if you've never synced it before and when you next connect it it will ask you to set up a relationship but click cancel and - viola - should now just charge.
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No "Allow Wireless Connection on Device" option. I am using Windows 7.. Not sure if it is present in WMDC.
ActiveSync Passthrough does not work..I am on a encrypted network with authentication based Proxies..whole bunch of them.....
I do not want to kill the ActiveSync relationship since it syncs everything with my PC.
I think I am bothering a lot over this stupid requirement.. so I will just close this thread (If I can) but if I find anything I will post it here, for someone else who might be in similar situation.
Thanks anyways...XDA rocks !!!
Similar issue like mine
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