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Hi, exist something about porting of NintendoDS on Android?
With touch-screen will as have an real NintendoDS on hands
I doubt this, as DS emulators on PC are still very slow, nevermind a handheld.
Check out the gba emulator in the market and see how slow it is.
Ok, Understood.
I would buy the gba emulator, but in Italy, google haven't again issued the market to pay... :'(
Is a really sin...
god damn it
there is NO GBA emulator on the market! only an ****ing slow gbc one !
Let's try to focus on getting things like SNES(or hell, even NES) working completely before we try for the DS, mkay?
Well it is possible to get MAME (gameboy, nintendo, etc.. maybe even ps1) running ..
the arcade emulator is based on FBA which is based on MESS (just a guess, i dont know that4sure) and MESS is similar to MAME .. ^^
The DS utilizes a pressure sensitive screen while the Android uses a Compacitive(sp?) screen. I'm not sure how well this could be adapted to work for DS emulation.
Also, the G1 has 1 screen while a DS has 2....
Stryder5 said:
Also, the G1 has 1 screen while a DS has 2....
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Well but's that really no problem ..
G1 screen resolution is 320*480 while both NDS screen are 256 x 192 pixels
As u can calculae there would be still 64pixel vertical and 96pixel horizontal left ^^
yea but imagine how much time it would take to port and figure out.. then think about how NOT fun any emulator is to play on a phone when it stutters and stuff.. i mean the nintendo one didnt work good untill I clocked the phone to max.
HI @ all...
my iphone is dead
now i have an HD2 yeha
The iphone was a good game Maschine - so i search 4 good games
First i search a game like PapiJump for the HD2 has anyone ideas???
THX for Answers... cu
If you still have some old PSX cd's, i would strongly suggest you get fpseCE (the upcomming 0.10 version) since that emulates psx, and with decent framerate too! (and well, with 0.10 you can use the HD2's multitouch and g-sensor, the currentlly available version 0.96 isnt very playable on a HD2)
Besides that, just look around a bit for windows mobile games, i can tell you that all 3d games i tried so far (maybe 8, not counting psx games in emu ofc) run great, so just look around a bit, nfsu and other common games all seem to work, though i would suggest you look for a trail of a game before you buy it, after all its a new device, lots of developers dont have (access to) it yet.
Im ashamed to say (since personally im not a apple fan, at all) that the iphone beats windows mobile out of the ballpark when it comes to the amount of available games and apps, given, windows mobile has been around alot longer, but apparently the iphone is **** easy to develop for.
The HD2 (and all other wm 6.5 devices) has a windows marketplace now, there you can easylly buy apps and games, but theres not alot to choose from atm, this will change in the future (when all windows mobile developers update their apps to 6.5)
w32parite said:
HI @ all...
my iphone is dead
now i have an HD2 yeha
The iphone was a good game Maschine - so i search 4 good games
First i search a game like PapiJump for the HD2 has anyone ideas???
THX for Answers... cu
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man there is the thread for that try to have look dont start new thread ..
HD2 Compatible Games
There's a list of confirmed HD2 compatible Games:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588786&highlight=games
Hey,
Before I get started, I just want to stop all flamers - I have searched and I couldn't find anything for this specific phone.
The specs for the nintendo 64 is a 93.75mhz processor and a 62.5mhz GPU -and people who like to call themselves "educated" in this area say that you need 10x the power to emulate something - and I reckon the HD2 has the power to do it. What do you think?
I think it would be great if this was possible, and just like the fpsece - people would donate to have this ability as we all love the goldeneye on the n64, and to be able to play that on the go would be amazing.
Thanks,
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Hey,
Before I get started, I just want to stop all flamers - I have searched and I couldn't find anything for this specific phone.
The specs for the nintendo 64 is a 93.75mhz processor and a 62.5mhz GPU -and people who like to call themselves "educated" in this area say that you need 10x the power to emulate something - and I reckon the HD2 has the power to do it. What do you think?
I think it would be great if this was possible, and just like the fpsece - people would donate to have this ability as we all love the goldeneye on the n64, and to be able to play that on the go would be amazing.
Thanks,
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OMG good idea zelda - Ocarina of time all over again..
Love the idea and hope there is a supreme programmer around who loves the idea too..
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it is a really nice idea, but after all a dream i guess...
remember there where some N64 emulators out, but most of them took years until the could
emulate the standard games like mario kart,mario 64 and some others, there are still many games wich dont run on the emus.The next Problem is the controller...
Perfect 64 is a great N64 emu for PCs, so it has been done well already on other platforms...
I'm going to bump this thread up a bit so it gets some attention. I would also love a n64 emulator for the htc hd2! Would be so awesome to play zelda on my phone! And I agree , I and many others would donate for such a thing.
I know some people have been working on an emulator for the iphone and this phone is much more powerful than the iphone.
You read my mind... N64 on this phone would look awesome!!! we got some genius developers out there. crossing my fingers and praying they listen...
I'd happily part cash for it!
And a FinalBurn emulator, damn my lack of programming knowledge! Where does one begin to learn such technical wizardry?!
Even if we have an emulator for N64, it will be very difficult to play games due to too many buttons for control in N64. And HD2 is not really multitouch, am I right?
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Even if we have an emulator for N64, it will be very difficult to play games due to too many buttons for control in N64. And HD2 is not really multitouch, am I right?
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Um no you are wrong . Hd2 got multitouch. And a nice button layout combined with the big screen would make it possible to play games pretty good. Atleast slow-paced games would be possible to play without much problem.
Goldeneye oder Perfect Dark on the HD2 would be magnificent!!!
the source code for project 64 is available,
http://www.pj64-emu.com/downloads/
so in theory it is possible.
Ye there are also other open-source n64 emulators out there.
Like:
1964: 1964emu.emulation64.com
Another emulator for the PC
Daedalus: sourceforge.net/projects/daedalus-n64/
Which was the first emulator to emulate n64 on the psp.
DaedalusX64: sourceforge.net/projects/daedalusx64/
Which is a continuation of the original daedalus on the psp. This is the one that currently is the best for n64 emulation on psp.
And all these are open-source. So it should be very possible, I think, to use one of these codes to write an emulator for the HTC HD2. Don't shoot me down now if I'm wrong, I'm just a noob when it comes to programing.
I wish I myself could help getting a project like this started but I know nothing about programing.
What we need are some good and dedicated programmers willing to give this a go.
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Um no you are wrong . Hd2 got multitouch. And a nice button layout combined with the big screen would make it possible to play games pretty good. Atleast slow-paced games would be possible to play without much problem.
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I think Im not.
Multitouch on HD2 is not like iphone. HD2 only support multitouch for a couple of programs. It will be really difficult to build a n64 emulator, for action games like Zelda play smoothly with multitouch. I completed Zelda by Project64 on PC before.
Did u try emulator like Morphgear, or FpseCE? I had the supporter version of these two, multitouch really does not working so well, still some bugs and problems
No I haven't tried those emulators yet. But even though the multitouch isn't perfect it's playable, from what I understand, and they are both works in progress aren't they? You can at least play it fine if you use a bluethooth controller.
And I can't say anything about how difficult it is to build a program that supports multitouch , since I know nothing about it, but didn't the multitouch version of these emulators come out rather quickly after the hd2 was released? At least it isn't impossible to build a emulator with decent multitouch support.
We just need to get the ball rolling!
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I think Im not.
Multitouch on HD2 is not like iphone. HD2 only support multitouch for a couple of programs. It will be really difficult to build a n64 emulator, for action games like Zelda play smoothly with multitouch. I completed Zelda by Project64 on PC before.
Did u try emulator like Morphgear, or FpseCE? I had the supporter version of these two, multitouch really does not working so well, still some bugs and problems
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Multitouch works very well on both FPSECE and MorphGear. The only reason it isn't very good on MorphGear from the beginning, is because the standard pad sucks HD2 has a capacitive screen, and therefore it is able to use multitouch just like any other multitouch phone (iphone etc), it just requires the programmer to write the program with multitouch support, by using the code from HTC
And a N64 emulator would be awesome
What about games like Ogre Battle though? Underlying point being there are still some worthwhile games that will work well despite the lack of hardware controls and/or multitouch support...
I was searching for this!
I love the idea and would pay (just i have for FpseCE) to get this, i would love zelda on my phone
Seriosly, this is the idea of the century!
Maybe not, but it is a very good idea i would sertainly donate to whomever creates this very much appreciated emulation program!
And as someone else sad before me the multitouch works well if you just put some effort into it and program it right, i have Supporter Version of FpseCE and multitouch works well there!
fantasytozi: *Flame, flame you* Multitouch works perfectly inf FPSEce. ONly thing holding back is y-alignement problem. But multitouch works great.
All: This wont really happen. Who would start work that would take years to program on dying OS? IF there will be some emulators in future, it will be for WP7 (as emulators are best with strong HW and strong HW devices will come only for WP7. So add two years (if there is genius team of programmers) to WP7 release and you have date where first emulator could exist =)
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fantasytozi: *Flame, flame you* Multitouch works perfectly inf FPSEce. ONly thing holding back is y-alignement problem. But multitouch works great.
All: This wont really happen. Who would start work that would take years to program on dying OS? IF there will be some emulators in future, it will be for WP7 (as emulators are best with strong HW and strong HW devices will come only for WP7. So add two years (if there is genius team of programmers) to WP7 release and you have date where first emulator could exist =)
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Easy man, that post was when I hadnt tried ur optimized package yet
But honestly, it's been a long time I havent played fpsece. It's great for like rpg games, some action games. But, for action games when u have to hold and charge like Megaman, it's really difficult
I will be getting an HD2 tomorrow (hopefully) and have been doing research about alot of different things for it... one thing is games - I have seen alot of games and none of them seem to be using the specs of the HD2 very well.... I would expect a phone like this to be able to have some very nice games, I understand it is quite new and maybe there aren't any out yet...but could you please let me know what is out there so far? I have only seen things like xtkart (I believe that is how it is spelled) and the ps1 emulator... so I was wondering what you guys have or what else is out there that is in accordance with my recommendation ?
Thanks in advance!
XTRAKT, Experiment 13 and Electopia demo are by far the best games for hd2! avatar, asphalt 4 and nfs undercover are great too!
man.. its just that i'm not interested in racing games...
i wouldn't mind some good ol tetris.. but with nice visuals that take advantage of the hd2 specs...
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..with nice visuals that take advantage of the hd2 specs...
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this is the part I agree on 110%
You might want to check FPSEce out, a PSX emulator for the HD2 which works very well...
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You might want to check FPSEce out, a PSX emulator for the HD2 which works very well...
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that is what I was referring to in the OP... any others ?...
Shooting Game
Dear all smart guys,
I am also wondering whether we can have those shooting game.. displaying in gameloft.com..............and which can be played in our super machine HD2...
games for HD2
Search for freewarepoketpc, and look for experiment 13
Ferrari GT2 Revolution looks BOMB on HD2. MiniGolf Wacky World looks also nice
the ferrari game runs 'terribly' on the US HD2.....they should be embarrassed....constant lag and slowdown. :O(
so basically to answer your question... there are none....... yet... don't lose hope... things will turn as soon as 7 comes out
yeah im not sure there are any games that fully take advantage of the hd2 hardware.
thats not to say that there arent any good games because there are PLENTY!
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the ferrari game runs 'terribly' on the US HD2.....they should be embarrassed....constant lag and slowdown. :O(
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On my German HD2 with stock ROM it works brilliantly without any freezes etc.
@ Topic: You have to keep in mind that it is a Windows Phone. If you wanna have a phone for playing only then you have to buy an iPhone or sth. like that. Nevertheless I got more than 20 brilliant HD2 games that brought me hours of fun during long train trips.
wow, i wonder why the one on the us hd2 runs so poorly.........it stutters sooooo badly that it's barely playable......i didn't buy this phone to play games but since they were included i certainly checked them out, that's why i'm so shocked that they included a game that runs like crap, lol, not a good advertisement!
the graphics suck on that game too, not up to the HD2 par in my opinion...the game market for this phone is disappointing! =\..
By the time Windows 7 comes out you said ? Yeah, but the HD2 would still be stuck on windows 6, remember ?....I wonder if the games will be comaptible though? or If someone will come up with a perfected windows 7 rom for the HD2 ? Or at least a perfected android rom... then maybe we will have some decent games ? Otherwise I hope the developers are working on some great games otherwise the hardware will be going to waste for the most part...
I would take a look over at pda4you.org, if i was you guys..
If you dont know what this app is, its a Nintendo DS emulator for android phones that was never taken out of BETA.Since this has been removed from the market i think all development has stopped, i think this is a real shame because it has a lot of potential especially with higher and higher specs on android phones.
There are probably similar threads already but i think the subject has run dry and i want to keep the idea of such a cool app in android owners minds.
I was wondering if any developer would take up the job of either starting fresh or adding onto NDS4Droid app. I would but i have no clue where to start when it comes to coding so i cant be much help
The reason i have posted this into the xperia play section is because i would hope that eventually it would be controller optimised.
This is my second thing i have posted in the forums so sorry if i have done anything wrong. Feel free to correct me on anything
+1
This was just the kinda thing I was hoping for, seeing all the groundwork on it going to waste is just a shame :/ Hopefully an awesome Dev will pick it up !
Do you people understand why this project never got very far?
It was because of the hardware capability of our phones. It was not enough for a fully functional DS Emulator which is why development had stopped.
And even if someone did want to continue the Development of this for some unknown reason, then it is impossible because the source code never got released.
The hardware is stron enough, NDS is compareable to N64 but much lower resolution.
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Try TigerNDS it supports physical button mapping
http://apps.tigerplay.info/
Also I do belive that with enough optimisations NDS emultion could run full (or near full) speed on the xperia play. Obviously you need to get a talented developer with enough free time on thier hand to actuall bother doing this.
If a new emu never gets made then we could use this current one with future hardware when it gets powerfull enough but thats still a good couple of years away and also none of the current NDS emulators have audio emulation...
Of course the hardware is good enough for the ds we are getting psp games soon which are better graphics than the ds.....
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Of course the hardware is good enough for the ds we are getting psp games soon which are better graphics than the ds.....
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That is because the those games are direct ports and not emulated. Emulators require like x3+ hardware of the actual console which is why some PSX/N64 Games still lag because they are using "Emulation".
The games will be ports and not ran by an emulator so just remember that
NDS has like a 66mhz ARM processor in it. It should be possible hardware wise, but not so ideal in the physical side of things. Showing two 3" screens on one 4" screen will look awkward, especially since the screens are supposed to be one on top of the other.
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NDS has like a 66mhz ARM processor in it.
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I was hoping someone would bring this fact to light.
Quality DS emulation is definitely possible. I'm waiting on one of these NDS emulators to offer the option to only emulate/display one of it's screens. A lot of the times, the second screen could be completely ignored, and that'd drastically improve performance.
All I'd really want an NDS emu for is Phantasy Star Zero... that alongside many other DS games can be played using only one screen.
i'm sure that xperia play can support it . it's looooooooong time that i hope to see update for tiger NDS or NDS4droid
i'm really really eager to help someone ( donate ) want to start this project . i've sent sooooo many mails to tiger , but no answer .
lets try it together and find a way to start it guys.
do you follow me ?
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing
JoshyHino said:
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing
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i do agree , please port some popular games , mario series
yes! it is totally doable, especially on high end phones now, like my Galaxy Nexus. let's get to work guys!!
I already got PSP games Loco Roco Midnight Carnival in my Play, im sure this game is not a port, it run with Playstation Pocket just like Crash Bandicoot and PSXPERIA converted PSX games, only different by some software coding because it failed while i try to extract it with PSXPERIA.
PSP had better graphic than NDS, im pretty sure Xperia Play have more than enough power to run the game.
JoshyHino said:
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing
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i do agree , please port some popular games , mario series
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You cant not just port a game with was released for completly different plattform. You need the source code to do this and no nds game (except some homebrew) is open source.
Since NDS not a Sony's . We will never get nicely emulated game on our phone
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Since NDS not a Sony's . We will never get nicely emulated game on our phone
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a question
is sony owner of nintendo64 , super nintendo , genesis ... ????!!!!
NDS games is different and is not similar to psp , please post your comment about psp on another forum
Please read carefully my statement. I said 'NDS not owned by SONY's' ,and i said 'I already own PSP games Loco Rock MC running in my XPERIA Play' , im not posting about any PSP device.
If i write about Arcade games running on my X Play, do you want me to post it on other /arcade forum too ?
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Please read carefully my statement. I said 'NDS not owned by SONY's' ,and i said 'I already own PSP games Loco Rock MC running in my XPERIA Play' , im not posting about any PSP device.
If i write about Arcade games running on my X Play, do you want me to post it on other /arcade forum too ?
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misunderstood !!
please talk about NS as much as you can ... to turn on this project
I don't know if this is enough but you can easily convert the dex file to jar and then decompile the jar file to view the source of the emulator.