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Why, why! AT&T

I just went to a local AT&T store to look at the newly released Fuze. I am not sure why AT&T has to ruin things every time a new HTC phone is released. The manager handed over his FUZE and it was covered with fingerprints and finger oil. I was so thrilled to see HTC change the design of the chassis to matte finish from the glossy cover of Diamond. Then, AT&T commits this hideous crime. I had a full intention of purchasing one, but walked out of the store empty handed.
My question, now, is this.
Can a 900/2100Mhz version of Touch Pro be converted to work with US 3G network (850Mhz) by flashing it with a AT&T radio? Or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone shares the same feeling?

verendus said:
I just went to a local AT&T store to look at the newly released Fuze. I am not sure why AT&T has to ruin things every time a new HTC phone is released. The manager handed over his FUZE and it was covered with fingerprints and finger oil. I was so thrilled to see HTC change the design of the chassis to matte finish from the glossy cover of Diamond. Then, AT&T commits this hideous crime. I had a full intention of purchasing one, but walked out of the store empty handed.
My question, now, is this.
Can a 900/2100Mhz version of Touch Pro be converted to work with US 3G network (850Mhz) by flashing it with a AT&T radio? Or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone shares the same feeling?
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the back makes that much a difference? thats just kinda ridiculous
and no the only way to get 3g is to use the att one or wait for the na unlocked which will probly be 800

Yup!
From the pictures, I didn't think it would be so such a big deal, but when I saw it, I just lost all desire to upgrade.

verendus said:
I just went to a local AT&T store to look at the newly released Fuze. I am not sure why AT&T has to ruin things every time a new HTC phone is released. The manager handed over his FUZE and it was covered with fingerprints and finger oil. I was so thrilled to see HTC change the design of the chassis to matte finish from the glossy cover of Diamond. Then, AT&T commits this hideous crime. I had a full intention of purchasing one, but walked out of the store empty handed.
My question, now, is this.
Can a 900/2100Mhz version of Touch Pro be converted to work with US 3G network (850Mhz) by flashing it with a AT&T radio? Or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone shares the same feeling?
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Too lazy to read the threads about trying to add the US 3G bands to the touch pro, but not too busy to waste space complaining about a device you're not gonna buy because it shows fingerprints. Checkout the Raphael elite team thread about that topic.

ha, maybe he has Palmar Hyperhydrosis

orlandojumpoff said:
ha, maybe he has Palmar Hyperhydrosis
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ha! i had that. Gone to a doctor in houston, tx

I wonder if the euro back cover will fit the fuze..? Hmmmmmmm, solution..?

the piano black finish is actually really nice. Just gota get some clear coat/invisible shield on it to keep it clean.
as for the 3g...hasnt it already been established that it's a hardware issue and that the only way to use it on AT&T network is to buy fuze!? this must be the 5th or 6th thread asking the same thing...well..half of this thread asks the same thing

covers....?
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=166210&partner=wmusfroogle
I know the pic looks NOTHING like the euro touch pro but I don't think they put up the correct pic yet as it states in the listing.

ok ok peep this, would this work...
grab a spray can of laquer and lightly mist the back cover
it would give it some texture and it would give it a duller, matted look.
but really, it's the back of the phone so whats the big deal? and you can always nonchalantly (yeah i cant spell) wipe it on your buttcheek

chetmichaels said:
ok ok peep this, would this work...
grab a spray can of laquer and lightly mist the back cover
it would give it some texture and it would give it a duller, matted look.
but really, it's the back of the phone so whats the big deal? and you can always nonchalantly (yeah i cant spell) wipe it on your buttcheek
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Did that earlier, it works!

Be smart use your brain, first off it's only a back piece. Second of all simply buy the phone and buy a replacement back piece for an unlocked Touch Pro version and snap it in, it's the same back piece! No need to spray pant your phone, LOL.
I didn't get mine yet but not because of the back finish I simply don't want to wait for rebates and all that garbage I'll get mine when BBY Mobile gets them, if they never get them then I guess I'll just never get the phone. To be honest I lost 99% of my interest in this thing waiting for it to come out, now it's like I don't know if I even want it anymore.

Sebrina said:
Be smart use your brain, first off it's only a back piece. Second of all simply buy the phone and buy a replacement back piece for an unlocked Touch Pro version and snap it in, it's the same back piece! No need to spray pant your phone, LOL.
I didn't get mine yet but not because of the back finish I simply don't want to wait for rebates and all that garbage I'll get mine when BBY Mobile gets them, if they never get them then I guess I'll just never get the phone. To be honest I lost 99% of my interest in this thing waiting for it to come out, now it's like I don't know if I even want it anymore.
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true dat, but, if you have a decent phone then you can wait. as for me, i've been using a t-mobile mda with a failing keyboard so i've been watching the release dates like a hawk. then when i went monday to play with a demo before the big release, the guy said yeah we had these for a couple days now. DOH

lbhocky19 said:
the back makes that much a difference? thats just kinda ridiculous
and no the only way to get 3g is to use the att one or wait for the na unlocked which will probly be 800
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Agreed. If the back was enough to completely turn you off of the Fuze, then you clearly didn't want it that badly to begin with.

Well..
Is this the perfect device (that is really subjective) Do I dislike the fingerprint aspect, Yes, Can I live with that, Yes. will someone come up with a fix for that (most likely).
Cheers
BR

I've found the butt cheek wipe works (wipes?) better if there is fabric covering the butt cheek.

Wow, i have to agree this thread is really lame.

scotchua said:
Too lazy to read the threads about trying to add the US 3G bands to the touch pro, but not too busy to waste space complaining about a device you're not gonna buy because it shows fingerprints. Checkout the Raphael elite team thread about that topic.
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There are many names I could call you, but I'll keep them clean... Negative Nancy, Debbie Downer, take your pick, there's no reason for a comment like that. You're always the first to tell me half of my posts are arguing, yet 75% of yours are scolding others for what they do on the forum. If it's such a crime he'll be admonished by a moderator, let them judge.

While the glossy black fingerprint sucking evilness of the device IS a huge turnoff, I bought it anyway .
It's a shame it's glossy though. You'd have thought electronics companies would have learned their lesson after PSP, but apparently not. I *hate* glossy black electronics with a fiery passion. Still...the Fuze is a damn nice phone

jasongw said:
While the glossy black fingerprint sucking evilness of the device IS a huge turnoff, I bought it anyway .
It's a shame it's glossy though. You'd have thought electronics companies would have learned their lesson after PSP, but apparently not. I *hate* glossy black electronics with a fiery passion. Still...the Fuze is a damn nice phone
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Indeed, I loved the gray the pre-release had, I don't know why they wrecked it. They had the choices of either matte black like the unlocked version or gray like the pre-release, and they picked glossy black like the Diamond, ugh. The Diamond looks really sharp... until you touch it. Same goes for the Fuze now.

questions about storage and performance

okay hay guyz currently thinking of getting a new phone practically i ave gs2 but i can get some good money for it
okay my questions
1- is it worth changing to the one s
2-what about storage in my s2 i have 16 gbs of internal storag but actually they used to be 12 and some guy 2day told me that with the newest ics rom it became 13 gigs
3-battery life is it good compared to the s2
4- durability can the phone hold the phone hold scratches and drops ??? cuz my s2 used to fall allot and all i got was some lil scratches in the bottom
5-how much the phone takes to charge i mean from 0 to 100 my s2 taked about 3 hours and that annoyed me
thx wish u help me
note: by worth it i mean that i will be spending some amount of money like 100 -120 usd

Get it tomorrow. Grey one. Will let you know what I can then.
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Be honest the s2 is a great phone specification wise..is it worth it. It'd come down to build quality I think mate..eg HTC or samsung
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the build quality for this phone is awesome, Along with the battery life
a full charge is about the same as any phone really, for me its about 2.5 hours (i always leave it a little extra once its reached 100%)
The phone is scratch resistant, But that doesnt mean its impossible to scratch, Just look after it, Dont drop it on purpose
Storage is a bummer for most people, For me its plenty I can always swap media from phone > PC >back to phone.. I dont need to carry my whole collection of media with me.. Plus the 25gb free dropbox is really cool.
All in all spec wise they are similar, The development is slow going at the moment for the One S (but its still not released worldwide) so it can be expected...
If you can afford the difference id say go for it..... If you have worked you balls off for ages and ages to find that difference in price needed, Id pass for now...

azzledazzle said:
the build quality for this phone is awesome, Along with the battery life
a full charge is about the same as any phone really, for me its about 2.5 hours (i always leave it a little extra once its reached 100%)
The phone is scratch resistant, But that doesnt mean its impossible to scratch, Just look after it, Dont drop it on purpose
Storage is a bummer for most people, For me its plenty I can always swap media from phone > PC >back to phone.. I dont need to carry my whole collection of media with me.. Plus the 25gb free dropbox is really cool.
All in all spec wise they are similar, The development is slow going at the moment for the One S (but its still not released worldwide) so it can be expected...
If you can afford the difference id say go for it..... If you have worked you balls off for ages and ages to find that difference in price needed, Id pass for now...
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Hi azzledazzle, I know you have a grey one s for some time now. So you think the grey metal's quality is quite good so is the plastic parts? I am really tired waiting for the improvement of the MAO material on the black one so very likely to go for the grey one just these days.
So your answer will be really important for me thx!!

h.han said:
Hi azzledazzle, I know you have a grey one s for some time now. So you think the grey metal's quality is quite good so is the plastic parts? I am really tired waiting for the improvement of the MAO material on the black one so very likely to go for the grey one just these days.
So your answer will be really important for me thx!!
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Hey man, Yeah ive had the grey one for almost a week now, I love it Its so sleek and really enhances the phone. The quality is awesome it has a rugged feel to it, It doesnt feel cheaply made.
I like the grey because it comes with a blue ring around the camera, which really looks cool. The only downside is its sooo smooth. it can be difficult to keep a firm grip on it..
I would choose the grey over black without a doubt. But thats your decision not mine

azzledazzle said:
Hey man, Yeah ive had the grey one for almost a week now, I love it Its so sleek and really enhances the phone. The quality is awesome it has a rugged feel to it, It doesnt feel cheaply made.
I like the grey because it comes with a blue ring around the camera, which really looks cool. The only downside is its sooo smooth. it can be difficult to keep a firm grip on it..
I would choose the grey over black without a doubt. But thats your decision not mine
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I think I'm going for the grey one to. I'm only a bit afraid to drop it if it's really that slippery. Is it still acceptable if you're careful or do you really need a case ?

i dont have a case and i havent dropped it yet...
the slippery(est) part is taking it from your pocket.. Once its in hand its not soo bad..
But a case certainly wouldnt be a bad thing.... Im looking for a clear one because i like the grey, i dont want to hide it with a case

azzledazzle said:
i dont have a case and i havent dropped it yet...
the slippery(est) part is taking it from your pocket.. Once its in hand its not soo bad..
But a case certainly wouldnt be a bad thing.... Im looking for a clear one because i like the grey, i dont want to hide it with a case
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It is very true that when taking out the phone from pocket, that's the moment you need to be careful. I tried the grey one in a shop and put the phone in my pocket, you need to be used to the slippery back when handling it.

T-Mobile HTC One S color?

Anyone know why T Mobile is only launching with the "gradient blue" version and not the micro arc oxidized version that is available internationally?
I have fallen to like the gray version a lot more so I will be getting that but I once was set 100% on getting the red/black one. I'm sure someone people will be disappointed that the red/black version won't be on T Mobile.
*T Mobile at MWC Feb 2012 announced a gray version only, so MAO failure is not the reason for only one color.
Anyone here have the gray version? Thoughts on it? Is it aesthetically pleasing? How does it feel in the hand or outside in the sun? I want to hear some opinions on it before I get it next week.

Hey, I got the grey a few days ago and I absolutely love it; the colours are great, especially the blue accent around the camera and the beatsaudio logo.
Also, no scratches on it =)

The looks is nice for both of phones, but Both of them have one downside... Black have chipping problem, while Gray is slippery

I was at a local T-Mobile store today looking at the dummy unit and the guy told me that they will be getting the black version in the beginning of June. He even checked with his boss when I asked him more about it. I have no idea if its true but they seemed pretty confident. I'm not sure if I want to wait though...

shadow.8 said:
I was at a local T-Mobile store today looking at the dummy unit and the guy told me that they will be getting the black version in the beginning of June. He even checked with his boss when I asked him more about it. I have no idea if its true but they seemed pretty confident. I'm not sure if I want to wait though...
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Interesting news...Good for the people who want black.
For myself I am getting gray. I can't go another month waiting for the One S when the Gradient Blue color is already flashy by it self. It would be a nice change having a gray based color phone for once. I have watched literally dozens of videos on Youtube regarding the One S, Form factor is nice, Sense 4 is spectacular, I'm practically obsessed with the phone. Waiting an additional month would be like consuming chilli peppers in the desert, I won't be able to handle it. That being said even if both colors were to be released I would choose gray now.

AndroidBlizzard said:
Interesting news...Good for the people who want black.
For myself I am getting gray. I can't go another month waiting for the One S when the Gradient Blue color is already flashy by it self. It would be a nice change having a gray based color phone for once. I have watched literally dozens of videos on Youtube regarding the One S, Form factor is nice, Sense 4 is spectacular, I'm practically obsessed with the phone. Waiting an additional month would be like consuming chilli peppers in the desert, I won't be able to handle it. That being said even if both colors were to be released I would choose gray now.
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I personally like the black version, I think it looks a lot nicer but I'm concerned about the chipping. I hope that the version that comes to T-Mobile doesn't have this problem.
Having said that, I'm not sure if I want to wait... Playing with the dummy unit makes me want the phone even more. I will probably just get the phone but time will tell.

[Q] broke my infuse glass

So, I broke the glass on my Infuse a week ago. The LCD touchscreen beneath it is in perfect condition without any noticeable defects. I have dropped my phone from over 5' onto concrete multiple times in the past and nothing broke those times, but I went to get out of my car and it slipped out of my pocket and fell one foot onto asphalt and the screen shattered, at least the bottom half. It sucks, but it happens, right? That is why I pay $5 /month for insurance, it is an expensive phone that i don't want to replace out of pocket. Well, it turns out that the last time I had to file an insurance claim they hadn't updated their pricing policy. It use to be $50 for a claim, but now it is $200! Ridiculously expensive if I say so myself. I went onto ebay and found that they sell the LCD, glass, and tools for $190, but this is an outdated phone, well AT&T doesn't sell it anymore at least. Why would I want to spend close to $200 for a new screen when I only spent $80 to buy the phone 15 months ago???
Now onto my real question:
1) Should I buy the screen replacement and fix it myself? I'm generally really good with electronics... and I've replaced screens in flip phones before.
2) Should I open a new line on my existing account for $10 a month and get the galaxy s3 for $170 and just put my sim card in the phone?
3) or should I go through AT&T's replacement service and get w/e phone they want to give me? (What phone replaced the Infuse anyway?)
What do you guys think I should do?

I have cracked glass on my Infuse (LCD still works fine in my case, I assume it does for you as well).
Here are what I think are the three best options (no particular order)
1 - Send it to Samsung for repair. They'll do it for about $156, including shipping both ways (they send you a shipping envelope). But you'll lose your phone for 1 to 2 weeks.Contact phone number: 1-888-987-4357
2 - Get a used phone on ebay, craigslist, etc.
3 - Live with it and hope it gets better. This may sound wacky, but I have a cracked phone glass and it really honestly seems to have gotten "better" over time. I'm not kidding.
Part of is switching your apps to dark background so you don't notice the cracks as much (and save battery anyway)..
part of it is getting used to the cracks so they don't catch your attention...
and here's the wacky part ... in my case some of the cracks have "gone away" or gotten smaller since the initial damage. I know that sounds silly and I certainly can't explain why it did that (other than to say this is not normal glass), but that is what I observed with my own eyes.
I don't think replacing the whole LCD unit is an attractive option. It costs $150 and you can get a new phone or have Samsung fix it for that much. It is a somewhat delicate procedure from what I have heard so after spending tht $150 there's a small chance you may not have fixed anything.
There is also Infuse Glass for sale for $10 or so but it is apparently unusable... can't replace glass without replacing the entire LCD unit (they're glued together)

you might want to double check ATT website. i got my refurbished infuse for 1 penny. flawless, looked and worked like brand new. so good, i got one for my sister too.

I have an infuse that I'm willing to sell for 150. Everything works besides the USB port being wonky at times...sometimes it works, others it doesn't. So for 150 you could repair your phone and gain another battery/everything else for the same price as sending it to Samsung.
I advise against adding a line...yeah its 170 up front but add another 240 for 10 bucks a month extra over two years. So that's paying essentially 410 for that s3...same with buying it for a penny online...paying 240 for another infuse over two years.
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electricpete1 said:
3 - Live with it and hope it gets better. This may sound wacky, but I have a cracked phone glass and it really honestly seems to have gotten "better" over time. I'm not kidding.
Part of is switching your apps to dark background so you don't notice the cracks as much (and save battery anyway)..
part of it is getting used to the cracks so they don't catch your attention...
and here's the wacky part ... in my case some of the cracks have "gone away" or gotten smaller since the initial damage. I know that sounds silly and I certainly can't explain why it did that (other than to say this is not normal glass), but that is what I observed with my own eyes.
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Attached are pictures immediately after I dropped my phone. I took them using front-facing camera mode.

Here are photos of the same phone (not repaired) today, about 5 months after I dropped it.
I was not able to recreate the exact same view (not sure how I originally managed to use front-facing camera and mirror to get photo of screen without seeing picture within picture type thing).
But I hope you can see it is a lot better. Tough to capture in pictures but there is no doubt in my mind the cracks somehow got better.

Your cracks got better likely because of the adhesive on your screen protector. That is a decent idea for the op to try though...if no chunks of glass are missing, they could try seeing if a screen protector makes the cracks less noticeable
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I have a screen protector on the phone right now and that is the only reason I'm able to use it. I'll post some pictures in a few showing how it looks.
captemo: How were you able to get an Infuse for $0.01? Was it an upgrade/new line/new customer deal?
electricpete1: they showed up when I posted my reply. Interesting...Makes me wonder what type of nearly self healing glass they implemented on your phone! lol Well, that is interesting, I can still see the impact site on the 5 months after photos, but the cracks seem to be nearly invisible now. [[]]edit[[]]For some reason your images are not showing up.[[]]edit[[]] I'll take a look on another browser and see what it looks like. But I am using a screen protector already.
welchertc: I was actually ready for an upgrade in a month but the account holder was a few hours late on his scheduled payment for an over due account and it bumped my upgrade deadline to July next year. So I would technically keep the new line for 7 months, then deactivate my current line and transfer the number over. (I believe that it possible...correct me if I am wrong though) I'll think about buying your infuse. Could you either show a picture of the screen or describe its condition? Mine was flawless, until it dropped that is.
So, my options are either buy a used one for $50 less, claim insurance, send to samsung (Should I keep the custom rom on the phone or will this send up red flags? I'm running Jellybean), or live with it until I can upgrade?

welchertc said:
Your cracks got better likely because of the adhesive on your screen protector. That is a decent idea for the op to try though...if no chunks of glass are missing, they could try seeing if a screen protector makes the cracks less noticeable
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Yes, I have the same screen protector on there now that was on there when it cracked (didn't change it).
Maybe the screen protector somehow played a role in the appearance of cracks going away (even though it's the same screen protector).
Maybe the adhesive is soaking into the cracks. Maybe the protector started to pull away from the crack so hides it a little.
Beats me.
Rhamza161 said:
But I am using a screen protector already
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Same as I was. For whatever reason, the screen that looked horrible 5 months ago after I dropped it looks great now... and I didn't do anything (including didn't change screen protector). I was on the verge of spending $156 to have Samsung fix it, and the only reason I didn't was that I didn't want to give up my phone for the period of 1-2 weeks required for that shipping/repair. Now, based on all the factors I mentioned (using black background, getting used to it, and cracked appearance going away somewhat) I'm glad I didn't spend that money.

here are the pictures:

To me, it looks similar to how mine looked. Heavy damage in one corner with cracks spreading accross the screen.
You could try waiting a month or two (three tops). If you see no change, then go ahead and find your replacement. But you might be pleasantly surprised with substantial improvement in appearance (like I was). In the meantime, set your apps and wallpaper to black for very dark backround.

I think I'll wait and see if I can live with it for a month, and if I cannot...then I'll see about replacing the screen first. I'll start the contact with samsung within the week though. I'd rather get the information now and be able to get the replacement screen as quick as possible if I decide to go that route.
Thanks for the advice guys.

Rhamza161 said:
I think I'll wait and see if I can live with it for a month, and if I cannot...then I'll see about replacing the screen first. I'll start the contact with samsung within the week though. I'd rather get the information now and be able to get the replacement screen as quick as possible if I decide to go that route.
Thanks for the advice guys.
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OK. I think it was about two months before I noticed the change. I wasn't expecting a change and therefore wasn't looking for a change, so may not have been really observant. You on the other hand have very good quality pictures of screen and will be watching closely.
** Please do come back here and let us know how it turns out.
(I have zero doubt about what I saw, but I also understand it's difficult for anyone else to believe... would feel better if someone else reports similar observations)

I'm always on the forum, but rarely post because the only threads I usually watch are the ones dealing with development. I'll be sure to let you know about the glass though,

Rhamza161 said:
3) or should I go through AT&T's replacement service and get w/e phone they want to give me? (What phone replaced the Infuse anyway?)
What do you guys think I should do?
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I'd like to know what phone replaced the infuse too, especially since its officially considered an obsolete phone now.
As a matter of fact Rhamza, that's the case you should build to AT&T-that the phone is obsolete. I've heard plenty of cases, including myself, of complaints to service providers and getting whatever it is you want, so long as your nice and get a compliant tech in the line.
Tell them (if u want) that "my cat knocked my phone off the table, breaking my screen. I see that this phone is totally obsolete and unavailable to purchase at any authorized att retailers... I feel I deserve a replacement because"...etc..
I've heard of people getting galaxy phones for the infuse, so it always worth shot. The worst that could happen is they say no.
In this economy never pay a dollar more for something if you don't have to. Millionaires don't.
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Hm, interesting. I'll give it a try. I mean it is worth a shot.
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I finally just went ahead and called samsung and they said the replacement screens including the LCD would cost exactly $155.88 including shipping. I don't think I'll go that route. I get paid Thursday for over 50 hours so AT&T will be contacted about a broken screen.
electricpete1: I have noticed that some parts of the screen do actually look better, however the 4 buttons on the bottom of the screen are starting to not work because of lost glass even after placing a screen protector over the loose pieces. I think they just came off of the LCD portion.
Sliding the unlock to the right on JB (CM10 unofficial) is starting to require a little more pressure than normal.

honestly i'd send it to samsung unless you have insurance, i had bad luck with replacement parts from china despite them having official "samsung" branding and looking legit. the insurance might get you a phone you don't wan't. since i think (not sure) they deal in refurbed phones for insurance but it might however get you an i-777 sgs2 (a nice upgrade if you like the smaller size) since it looks like hey still have new and refurbed i777s in stock online depited it being long out of production like the infuse. but if they a replacement phone you don't want then samsung is the best way to go unless you find a repair service that has a good warranty policy. i've replaced the screen on one of my infuses myself for a single crack across the screen that was barely visable, the replacement screen burned out in under 2 months and it cost me more than what samsung quoted you to fix yours,at the time i didn't want to be without my phone while waiting for a repair and it cost me.

Well I went ahead and went through the insurance company. Supposedly I coudl have had a choice in the phone I was given, but when I clicked on the "Choose more" button it sent me to the same phone, the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and it said "If you click on 'more options again, you'll be directed to an associate who will attempt to help solve your problem and will not be allowed to continue online at any point" So I stayed with the Skyrocket for now...I'm honestly not sure how I'll like it. Some websites say that the screen is 0.2" smaller than the infuse, other say it is the same. I love my Infuse, but I would rather get a new phone, not one that is a year old already (the skyrocket came out last year in October after all). The phone should be here tomorrow sometime, so I'll report back and let you guys know if it is refurbished or new. In a way I hope that there is something wrong or something I dislike so I can justify attempting to get a nicer, newer phone.
But at least it is coming with ICS and the screen is not broken and there is a modding community here that is amazing! So even if it isn't the best phone I've ever used, it'll still be better than nothing and I can have JB on it within the hour of it arriving. lol

well there was something wrong with it out of the box. (Of course right?) I called Asurion and she said "we'll send you a shipping label and you can send it back to us and when we receive it we'll send you another one right back."
"Wait, I don't have another phone to use while this one is being processed and shipped. What will I do without a phone? I need it for work!"
"Well, go to AT&T and see if they will loan you a phone for about two weeks while we send you another one, but I've never heard of them doing it before."
"Why can't you send me a new phone and when I receive it, I'll send the defective one back?"
"It doesn't work like that."
"If AT&T doesn't hand out a phone for a loan and I miss work because of it, will your company compensate me my $10/hr wage and contact my bosses and explain to them that it is your fault that I missed work?"
"Um, no we can't do that either."
"[[]]sigh[[]] just send me the shipping label and be done with it. This is ridiculous."
"okay. Have a good night." and she hung up the phone.
wth? Rude and not helpful at all. The new phone that I was sent had a defective mic, both on normal calls and speaker phone calls. The AT&T customer service person was really polite and helped me though their trouble shooting guide for the phone and ended up having me go down to AT&T to get a new SIM card. That didn't work, but they activated the new SIM and added the phone to my plan. So the next AT&T rep sent me a phone number to Asurion to get it replaced, because I have 30 days to report a defective device. Well the previous conversation ensued and I find that I am really not satisfied with their representatives. I should have been recording it! jeez.
Here are some photos I took of my Infuse before I put it into the shipping box three days ago.

Colour Choice & Shipping.....

Well being in Scotland only two colour choices available (Midnight Black & Orchid Grey) and although the black does look sleek, the Orchid Grey has a very nice appeal so that was my choice.....
Order placed as soon as i could & looks like a nice 20th of April shipping..
Looking forward to checking out the S8+ although being a smartphone junkie I'll flip & sell to buy the Note 8.....
What was your choice & did you rush to pre order?
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Ordered the Midnight Black, my last 3 phones were Gold so I wanted a change. Hopefully I'll also receive it on the 20th, Three said the 29th when I ordered over the phone, but have it listed as a "get it early" incentive on their website. I'm in SW England btw and also only had a choice of Black or Grey. I wanted black anyway so no bother. Excited to try it out!
Haha I'm just like you, can't help but swap phones when something new and shiny arrives. I'll probably sell next year and get a Oneplus then upgrade again and so on...
The Note is too similar to the S range for me to trade for. Other than the S Pen of course. I had three phones last year and I'm currently using the Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Shouldn't have bothered with this one, just wanted to try it out.

Ordered myself a black one and my wife a silver one through Best buy. Said I will be able to pickup in store on the 21st. Can't wait to try it out

Highspeed123 said:
Ordered the Midnight Black, my last 3 phones were Gold so I wanted a change. Hopefully I'll also receive it on the 20th, Three said the 29th when I ordered over the phone, but have it listed as a "get it early" incentive on their website. I'm in SW England btw and also only had a choice of Black or Grey. I wanted black anyway so no bother. Excited to try it out!
Haha I'm just like you, can't help but swap phones when something new and shiny arrives. I'll probably sell next year and get a Oneplus then upgrade again and so on...
The Note is too similar to the S range for me to trade for. Other than the S Pen of course. I had three phones last year and I'm currently using the Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Shouldn't have bothered with this one, just wanted to try it out.
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The Black is Sublime & gave careful consideration, but being OCD with keeping my phone clean it would be in overdrive with smudgey fingerprints (always a clear case i know). Very much hope you enjoy your Black version (I'm sure you will) & you should as you pre ordered early get it on the date states on their web site.....
Being a Sky customer i opted for them as it keeps everything all in one bill....And they also have the 8 day early policy....[emoji2]
Hahaha in 3 years I've had about 30 phones it's craaaazy, i just get to tempted and then that irrational part of my brain wins every time lol.....
No it's not a huge gulf of a step up with the S7 Edge & S8+ but i also had the S7 Edge (Sold to buy the 3T) which I'm using now. Missed certain great features of the S7 so next progressive step was to buy the S8+ (there is some logic there)....
Hope you all enjoy your new S8's or S8+'s.....[emoji2]
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Are they showing the s8/s8+ in Samsung store?

They should be (not where i am) Northern Scotland as we only have Tesco's with a very small mobile section......
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I order the grey.
I always get black phones and was very mad about the note 7 crap since i had a black s7 edge and then back note 7, Then had to go back to the edge and tmobile stop selling the black ones so end up with blue. While i like blue it just isnt as smooth as the black.
But with the s8 being black on front and color on the back i didnt mind switching it so much.
Also the black look a bit funny to me. Kinda to plain i guess.
So yea with with grey and i didnt rush to preorder took my time and made sure it was worth the money i was spending.

I am trying to decide between black and grey (our only choices). The black does look a bit plain, and the grey in pictures looks a bit too pink and more like a girl colour, but I have heard a couple of people say it isn't like that in real life it's just the pictures. So I'm not sure. Also not sure which one will show fingerprints the black or the grey, probably black I guess as it will be more shiny. I will probably not be able to get to a shop to look at it before I pre-order tomorrow will will have to make a choice before then.
Ok I went for the black, I prefer how the black back blends in perfectly with the black on the front and sizes vs the other colours.....only to have carphonewarehouse then send an email 2 hours later saying they had cancelled my order....with no explanation at all. Rang them up and they still couldn't tell me why they had cancelled it.

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I am trying to decide between black and grey (our only choices). The black does look a bit plain, and the grey in pictures looks a bit too pink and more like a girl colour, but I have heard a couple of people say it isn't like that in real life it's just the pictures. So I'm not sure. Also not sure which one will show fingerprints the black or the grey, probably black I guess as it will be more shiny. I will probably not be able to get to a shop to look at it before I pre-order tomorrow will will have to make a choice before then.
Ok I went for the black, I prefer how the black back blends in perfectly with the black on the front and sizes vs the other colours.....only to have carphonewarehouse then send an email 2 hours later saying they had cancelled my order....with no explanation at all. Rang them up and they still couldn't tell me why they had cancelled it.
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Hmmmm sounds odd but always 02 or EE but be quick.....[emoji12]
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Hmmmm sounds odd but always 02 or EE but be quick.....[emoji12]
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Well CPW are a joke. After that first attempt, I ordered it again....this time 2 hours later I get an email saying it had been cancelled again, due to an "information mismatch". I know for a fact the details were all correct and were the same as the previous attempt. I then rang them up to find out wtf was going on, starting at sales who couldn't tell me the exact issue so they passed me on to the web team, who couldnt tell me anything because the order had been cancelled, so they passed me on to customer services....who cut me off. I tried one final time, and in the most hillarious email of all, got a reply an hour later saying it had failed and was cancelled once again "due to you failing the credit check criteria required by the network you selected." Credit check?!?! network??? I had not selected a network, all 3 times I had ordered the handset only, sim free, my order confirmations even confirm that. There was no credit check to be done! And if they HAD done a credit check, it would have come back as pretty much perfect anyway! Unbelievable. I then went and ordered it from John Lewis instead and it went through straight away, same 20th Apr delivery date, I just won't get the free £99 speaker. Frankly after this crap, CPW can keep the speaker! I would have considered ordering from EE (I am with EE) or from o2, but I don't quite trust that it would be unlocked from them, I guess it would be but John Lewis is doing the same delivery date anyway (and they had damn well better deliver it on that day since I will be waiting in for it from work!).

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Well CPW are a joke. After that first attempt, I ordered it again....this time 2 hours later I get an email saying it had been cancelled again, due to an "information mismatch". I know for a fact the details were all correct and were the same as the previous attempt. I then rang them up to find out wtf was going on, starting at sales who couldn't tell me the exact issue so they passed me on to the web team, who couldnt tell me anything because the order had been cancelled, so they passed me on to customer services....who cut me off. I tried one final time, and in the most hillarious email of all, got a reply an hour later saying it had failed and was cancelled once again "due to you failing the credit check criteria required by the network you selected." Credit check?!?! network??? I had not selected a network, all 3 times I had ordered the handset only, sim free, my order confirmations even confirm that. There was no credit check to be done! And if they HAD done a credit check, it would have come back as pretty much perfect anyway! Unbelievable. I then went and ordered it from John Lewis instead and it went through straight away, same 20th Apr delivery date, I just won't get the free £99 speaker. Frankly after this crap, CPW can keep the speaker!
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Yes I've heard mixed reports from CPW and similar circumstances to yourself, people getting declined credit check when they have a great credit rating. Also customer service is well below acceptable standards.
Personally i have had no desire to use them (Sky mobile just launched and it wraps everything up in a nice one off bill) i have sky broadband, phone, Sky Q and now Mobile (all went as it should).
Glad you got it sorted in the end and you live & lean to stay clear of CPW....[emoji12]
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I just went and saw the phone at Best Buy, because you just can't trust pictures to accurately portray the color these days. The orchid gray was more like gray with a hint of plum, very muted color, pretty much just a darker gray indoors. The black was far less shiny than the Note 7's black, so less of a fingerprint magnet, but still showed fingerprints more than the other colors. Coral blue and maple gold are not available here, so it looks like arctic silver is the color for me. I liked that color on the Note 7, but since the color wrapped around to the front it was far too blinding for me to use. Not a problem on the S8+.
Well I still haven't ordered yet, still not 100% convinced I can't just wait until the Note 8 comes out.

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I just went and saw the phone at Best Buy, because you just can't trust pictures to accurately portray the color these days. The orchid gray was more like gray with a hint of plum, very muted color, pretty much just a darker gray indoors. The black was far less shiny than the Note 7's black, so less of a fingerprint magnet, but still showed fingerprints more than the other colors. Coral blue and maple gold are not available here, so it looks like arctic silver is the color for me. I liked that color on the Note 7, but since the color wrapped around to the front it was far too blinding for me to use. Not a problem on the S8+.
Well I still haven't ordered yet, still not 100% convinced I can't just wait until the Note 8 comes out.
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I much prefer the Note range but the S8+ is a beautiful device with enough to convince me to buy. That said i am a tech enthusiast & quite enjoy testing out as many devices as my wallet will allow. What i usually do is flip each device to buy the next (yes it means putting some added money in) but it works for me, plus someone else gets the enjoyment of whatever device sold..
So I'll be using the S8+ until the Note 8 and no doubt sell to acquire.....(it's how a roll.....[emoji12] ) my own upgrade programme.
Looking forward to getting a hands on look at the S8+ with what is a great design & will be a great device.
My honest thoughts are that Samsung perhaps should have went Duel Camera for the plus, along with 6gb Ram (just to separate from the regular S8)...
The fingerprint reader placement is perhaps Samsung being deliberately obtuse....[emoji12] thus forcing you to adopt their other two bits of tech (facial recognition, iris scanner).. this is not a deterrent obviously, but i really don't like it even before hands on,....
Overall I think Samsung should have placed just a bit more thought into certain elements and i think this will have a bit of a negative effect, but they have Excelled again in design, and UI is nice, Screen, come on the Camera was great in the S7 & Edge (So not a huge impact on me here), see how bixby performs and the overall feel.....
The Note 8 will be purchased though as i believe the force touch tech will be ready and fingerprint reader will be underneath the display.....[emoji3]
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I much prefer the Note range but the S8+ is a beautiful device with enough to convince me to buy. <snip>
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I'm with you there, the stylus isn't a deal breaker for me, but it's one of my top wanted features. There used to be more that differentiated the S and the Note series, I was more on the Note side back then.
As soon as I got the S8+ in my hands I went from 50 to 90% convinced that I needed to dump my V20. It just feels like future tech, while the V20 feels like something from 3 years ago. S8+ feels amazing and the display looks like nothing else out there.
I generally try to sell my old devices, but if I'm unable to find a decent price I have no problems holding on to it. It's always fun to go back to my old phones and see what Android was like back then. My GS1 still runs like a champ on an XDA dev's rom, forget the rom name, but it turned that phone from nearly unusable to quite competent for it's day.
Dual camera would have been nice, I'd definitely like to see what Samsung could do with that. The V20 has dual, but it takes pretty terrible pictures. My Note 7 took amazing pictures, so I'm pretty excited to play with the S8+ camera more.
I actually like the fingerprint sensor being on the bottom, like the V20. For the way I use the phone it's much more convenient for me, I'm just going to have to train my finger to not touch the camera. Most of the time I don't need to use it anyway since my watch unlocks the phone while it's close.

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I just went and saw the phone at Best Buy, because you just can't trust pictures to accurately portray the color these days. The orchid gray was more like gray with a hint of plum, very muted color, pretty much just a darker gray indoors. The black was far less shiny than the Note 7's black, so less of a fingerprint magnet, but still showed fingerprints more than the other colors. Coral blue and maple gold are not available here, so it looks like arctic silver is the color for me. I liked that color on the Note 7, but since the color wrapped around to the front it was far too blinding for me to use. Not a problem on the S8+.
Well I still haven't ordered yet, still not 100% convinced I can't just wait until the Note 8 comes out.
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Where are you located that the silver is available?
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force70 said:
Where are you located that the silver is available?
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USA.

I've owned the Note 2/3/4 and this was the first phone I've been remotely excited about. I thought about waiting to see what the Note 8 had in store for us, but I don't use the stylus much (maybe once a week or less). I've held onto the Note 4 for so long because of the replaceable battery, with all the new models going to sealed backs, I figured I might as well get used to it. If I don't like the S8+ or just can't live without the Note 8, I'll give my son the S8+.
Ordered the arctic silver version.

note 8 will be wider. Only thing I'm hesitant about (even tho ordered!) is the width and the battery.

Highspeed123 said:
Ordered the Midnight Black, my last 3 phones were Gold so I wanted a change. Hopefully I'll also receive it on the 20th, Three said the 29th when I ordered over the phone, but have it listed as a "get it early" incentive on their website. I'm in SW England btw and also only had a choice of Black or Grey. I wanted black anyway so no bother. Excited to try it out!
Haha I'm just like you, can't help but swap phones when something new and shiny arrives. I'll probably sell next year and get a Oneplus then upgrade again and so on...
The Note is too similar to the S range for me to trade for. Other than the S Pen of course. I had three phones last year and I'm currently using the Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Shouldn't have bothered with this one, just wanted to try it out.
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Exact same thing with me, I had a Gold S6 before, the black option looks amazing so I pre-ordered the phone in black. Shipping starts on the 20th and I was one of the first ever to pre-order it, meaning I will probably be one of the first to get it too :fingers-crossed:
Ever since the first leaks of the black variant I wanted to get mine in black, the color looks so amazingly slick and clean, an uniform piece of screen and amazing design

The note 8 will have curves the same as the note 7 did...which was wider than the s7.