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Wich one you prefer and why?
G1 highlights: Android OS
HD highlights: Super 3.8" screen
A good video comparative (Page it´s in spanish): http://www.xataka.com/2008/09/24-htc-touch-hd-y-t-mobile-g1-en-video
G1: Android and Capacitive Touchscreen, along with hardware keyboard
HD: Superior Processing power, WM Customizability, AT&T (maybe) release, and styling. I really wish it had a capacitive touchscreen though.
any ETA on the HD yet? and is it gonna be affordable..to us "commoners" ?
or am i gonna have to dip into my 401k for this sucker?
and am i the only one who thinks the 480x800 WGVA, and 5MP cam is the sweetest thing since sliced bread?
Why is there always a competition thread between phones? The G1 is supposed to be a start for google. . . . and it didn't do so well. Whats next a HD vs iPhone?
~~Tito~~ said:
. and it didn't do so well. Whats next a HD vs iPhone?
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Not even a fair contest the iphonie would be left in the dust...
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Not even a fair contest the iphonie would be left in the dust...
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Well said mate, agree!!
See Iphone vs. Omnia vs. HD here!: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc
It´s amazing!
galaxys said:
Not even a fair contest the iphonie would be left in the dust...
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Lol. . . If its as stable as they put it then the iPhone has competition. . .
There is one question that has got me stumped. . how would I play dpad games? V-Dpad? Like we saw on the newest review? Since there is so much space, would that be the case?
orb3000 said:
Well said mate, agree!!
See Iphone vs. Omnia vs. HD here!: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc
It´s amazing!
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yuppi i want the blackstone asap. you cant compare htc phones to other brands. iphone is definatelly the worst thing you want to get. omnia is ok but it is samsung i am not a big fan of samsung mobiles. htc the best thing you can get although support from htc is rubbish. but we have this beautifull website in here to help.
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yuppi i want the blackstone asap. you cant compare htc phones to other brands. iphone is definatelly the worst thing you want to get. omnia is ok but it is samsung i am not a big fan of samsung mobiles. htc the best thing you can get although support from htc is rubbish. but we have this beautifull website in here to help.
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It's not the worst, its mainly a media phone that has a strong and stable media player. . . . It wasn't made for what every wanted it to be apparently after apple made it, so don't go bashing please. . its just a regular phone with some advanced features . .
No I am no fanboy, but everyone bashes everything just because everyone else does it too. . . Look at the facts. . the apple fanboys are gonna bash this too with a similar remark towards the BlackStone.
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Look at the facts. . the apple fanboys are gonna bash this too with a similar remark towards the BlackStone.
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What will the Apple fanboys bash? The fact that it runs on WM? Yes, but at least everyone will acknowledge it's failings instead of pretending everything's rosy in the garden like all Apple "enthusiasts" do!
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What will the Apple fanboys bash? The fact that it runs on WM? Yes, but at least everyone will acknowledge it's failings instead of pretending everything's rosy in the garden like all Apple "enthusiasts" do!
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I never said it didn't have flaws. . . .
Thats prabably one of the targets . . lol
I know, the lack of a real keyboard and D-Pad will be a pain, no multitouch, and no complete tactile feedback(latest pre-pro features bottom touch sensetive buttons with tactile feedback). . .there are some others but whats the fun of finding the flaws, then it makes the phone less "wantable" and then we expect to much out of HTC. . .
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It's not the worst, its mainly a media phone that has a strong and stable media player. . . . It wasn't made for what every wanted it to be apparently after apple made it, so don't go bashing please. . its just a regular phone with some advanced features . .
No I am no fanboy, but everyone bashes everything just because everyone else does it too. . . Look at the facts. . the apple fanboys are gonna bash this too with a similar remark towards the BlackStone.
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I actually agree with Tito here. I'm no fan of iPhone. But you have to give credit to where it's due. iPhone has dominated the American market, not so much the European or Asian markets. You can say that has to do with Apple ability to strike better deals with Phone Service Providers, but you also have to acknowledge that Apple has found themselves a niche market, the portable multimedia market, and has managed to be the frontrunners on that market.
iPhone is essentially a multimedia phone and for it's main purpose, it is "awesome" so to speak and so far WM based devices has struggled to compete with iphone on that front, despite WM more functionability.
The fact that HTC has launched HTC Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Diamond, Touch HD, sort of tells the story of how HTC has faired with WM against the iPhone.
Now one question remains, are HTC devices worst than iPhone in terms of hardware, or HTC is losing ground because WM is just not that good of a program? After all HTC, Omnia, X1 all had to create their own version software UI to make it more "user/finger friendly" for customers.
I for one believe that iPhone is a better multimedia/phone device but because I'm not that much of a multimedia buff, I prefer the all encompassing functionability of WM, which gives me all round advantage.
Now back to the question of HD or G1.
I really have no opinion and I think it's just too soon to make a comparison, as most people have not used the google android yet.
If we talk about hardware then I guess HD is much better than G1, but if we talk about software then G1 has no grounds to compete because it's an enigma still?
imho then unless one really love android then HD will be batter the first g1 imho is ½baked
no teething, no adsp not alot of 3th party progs yet
cant be found without a contract....
but it shows promise
hope sooner or later it will wake the sleeping wm
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I actually agree with Tito here. I'm no fan of iPhone. But you have to give credit to where it's due. iPhone has dominated the American market, not so much the European or Asian markets. You can say that has to do with Apple ability to strike better deals with Phone Service Providers, but you also have to acknowledge that Apple has found themselves a niche market, the portable multimedia market, and has managed to be the frontrunners on that market.
iPhone is essentially a multimedia phone and for it's main purpose, it is "awesome" so to speak and so far WM based devices has struggled to compete with iphone on that front, despite WM more functionability.
The fact that HTC has launched HTC Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Diamond, Touch HD, sort of tells the story of how HTC has faired with WM against the iPhone.
Now one question remains, are HTC devices worst than iPhone in terms of hardware, or HTC is losing ground because WM is just not that good of a program? After all HTC, Omnia, X1 all had to create their own version software UI to make it more "user/finger friendly" for customers.
I for one believe that iPhone is a better multimedia/phone device but because I'm not that much of a multimedia buff, I prefer the all encompassing functionability of WM, which gives me all round advantage.
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I'm not sure that Apple have found a niche market. The market was already there but they have been able to exploit it better because of the hype created by the iPod. But let's be honest here: consumers are dumb. If you give something a nice shiny cover people will buy it and that's exactly what happened with the iPod when in reality you could have bought a PPC to not only listen to music but watch videos, play games, surf the net, send emails, etc, etc.
It's no surprise that Apple followed up with a video iPod, iPod Touch and the iPhone. They simply took advantage of MS's inexplicable unwillingness to develop WM into something it could and should have been years ago.
And yet, just like the iPod the iPhone lacks features that could really make it a killer device for EVERYONE. As a techical business user who is also a mass market consumer, for me it's missing 2 fairly essential features: a decent camera (to take spontaneous photos of my son) and the ability to connect it to my laptop to access the internet.
The problem for me is actually a wider one in that no phone on the market does everything I need it to. I want:
- the UI of the iPhone
- the 5MP camera with Xenon flash of the Nokia 6220
- in-built voice navigation of various Nokia devices
- the flexibility of WM
- the inbuilt storage of the iPhone
- the size of the SE XPeria X1
Is that too much to ask? I don't think so but it seems that every manufacturer is reluctant to make such a device when the technology is clearly already out there.
I prefer the HD becase of the hardware specks, the large screen and slick design, also like many others I am windows mobile fan...
G1 design is ugly, they should came with something more slick than this (it looks like the device was made back in 2006 - i am talking about the design)
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I'm not sure that Apple have found a niche market. The market was already there but they have been able to exploit it better because of the hype created by the iPod. But let's be honest here: consumers are dumb. If you give something a nice shiny cover people will buy it and that's exactly what happened with the iPod when in reality you could have bought a PPC to not only listen to music but watch videos, play games, surf the net, send emails, etc, etc.
It's no surprise that Apple followed up with a video iPod, iPod Touch and the iPhone. They simply took advantage of MS's inexplicable unwillingness to develop WM into something it could and should have been years ago.
And yet, just like the iPod the iPhone lacks features that could really make it a killer device for EVERYONE. As a techical business user who is also a mass market consumer, for me it's missing 2 fairly essential features: a decent camera (to take spontaneous photos of my son) and the ability to connect it to my laptop to access the internet.
The problem for me is actually a wider one in that no phone on the market does everything I need it to. I want:
- the UI of the iPhone
- the 5MP camera with Xenon flash of the Nokia 6220
- in-built voice navigation of various Nokia devices
- the flexibility of WM
- the inbuilt storage of the iPhone
- the size of the SE XPeria X1
Is that too much to ask? I don't think so but it seems that every manufacturer is reluctant to make such a device when the technology is clearly already out there.
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Yea, but not everyone wants a PPC, they see the iPhone as an easy to use thing that is made by apple(consumer's brain thought: Oh!! Look apple made it it must be good at playing music and junk). I prefer WM because of all the options it has and the more personalization you can do. I would like your idea too, but I wouldn't want the UI of the iPhone simply because as more commands and options add in, your fingers will be too big and its simplistic nature goes away. The UI is successful because it is so restrictive(not too restrictive) and lets things run the same over and over(WM can do the same thing it just depends on the hardware and software support). IDK, I had an iPhone, I loved it but it got stolen and then I realized that I should go back to WM because of the way it works and the freedom it has.
BOT:
I think that the G1 is Google's tester phone to see how far android will go with a simple phone. This will be Google's trial and error. . .
orb3000 said:
Wich one you prefer and why?
G1 highlights: Android OS
HD highlights: Super 3.8" screen
A good video comparative (Page it´s in spanish): http://www.xataka.com/2008/09/24-htc-touch-hd-y-t-mobile-g1-en-video
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oh man those videos make me want a G1 one more than an HD...
kidnamedAlbert said:
oh man those videos make me want a G1 one more than an HD...
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Why is that mate?
Let all us know your thoughts
Cheers,
~~Tito~~ said:
It's not the worst, its mainly a media phone that has a strong and stable media player. . . . It wasn't made for what every wanted it to be apparently after apple made it, so don't go bashing please. . its just a regular phone with some advanced features . .
No I am no fanboy, but everyone bashes everything just because everyone else does it too. . . Look at the facts. . the apple fanboys are gonna bash this too with a similar remark towards the BlackStone.
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not bashing bro I own the iphone 3g too if you want i can show you pictures of it next to my diamond. but trust me mate, you cant get a great community as xda devs for iphone. My iphone looks crappy in front of the diamond fully moded. about the blackstone it is gonna be a 100 times iphone killer.
I am using my VOX for almost one and half years and I am feeling like upgrading to a more recent product. Since many of you are having a wide experience of using PPC I would request you to suggest my next upgrade as to whether to go for a PPC or remain in smartphone. My thinkings/doubts apprehensions are as follows:
1) I am being allured by Touch varieties of WINMO, the reason being, bigger screens, smart looks and above all the wide availability of softwares both in numbers as well as variety. In fact I love to install various apps to my phones and enjoy fiddling with them.
2)UI or Touch Operation : Though I have recently purchased a Nokia 5800 and I have quite well adapted myself fully on Symbian touch screens. I would like to know what are the advices/experiences of actual users in WINMO. By the way the TouchFlow3D/2D attracts me very much and I like the kinetic scrolling and gesture control of WINMO devices.
3)Although it is pretty sure that I will go for HTC (of course due to this huge and unique support of XDA-DEVELOPERS) is there any other practically viable alternative?
4)The battery lives of WINMOs are generally poorer than symbian etc. What about battery lives of PPC in comparison to Smartphone (WinMOs)?
Thanks
Hey
I can't answer all your questions, but here are my 2 cents:
For battery life the s710 is awesome. Online reviews of other phones will tell you what to expect from a new phone, you'll have to do the research.
Personally, I wanted my phone to be a PHONE with internet,etc on the side.....rather than a mini-internet browser with some phone functionality on the side (if you see what I mean), which is why I went for an s710.
The next best option I see is this, and I was considering this for myself at one point: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=161302
Basically I think you'll have to decide what you want out of the phone. Do you want to be fiddling with a stylus to send texts? Ive been told touchscreens won't work out if its drizzling outside and specks of water are splashing on the screen. Touchscreen is cool, it's just not as precise as a keypad.
There are loads of advantages to PPC's (many of which you know). You'll just have to figure out what suits you personally.
(also there's no alternative to doing the leg work.....if you want to find the best deal out there, you'll have to do the research).
Oh and also, if you find something cool let me know.....
What about the HTC Hero?
http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/26104/1/
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What about the HTC Hero?
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Hero is a Android phone which I am interested in. I will only restrict my choice within WinMO.
I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX
I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX
FeareX said:
I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX
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It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,
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It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,
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It sure is!
The diamond 2 has almost the same features, only no keyboard. And since the Vox i don't think i can live without
But it's all up to you
I hate it but every company makes apps for the iphone. Windows mobile always left in the cold when it comes to new applications. Random companies make apps for the iphone. The Weather Channel, CNBC, eBay, NBA, MLB, ESPN, Showtime plus thousands of other companies choose to make apps for the iphone only. I hate it but when my contract runs out i might swich to the iphone. Anyone feeling this way?
No. I can't stand the iPhone.
Most of those "apps" are just links to websites... like Widgets in WM6.5. Actually if you use the web browser Iris... it will display the iPhone version of the site. Or you could just make a widget of iPhone version from the iPhone URL.
Aside from the few cool games the iPhone has, it doesn't offer anything extraordinary.
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No. I can't stand the iPhone.
Most of those "apps" are just links to websites... like Widgets in WM6.5. Actually if you use the web browser Iris... it will display the iPhone version of the site. Or you could just make a widget of iPhone version from the iPhone URL.
Aside from the few cool games the iPhone has, it doesn't offer anything extraordinary.
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Mmm, gotta disagree with you on that. Are you speaking from experience? Do you own an iPhone? I agree with the OP, I've been frustrated by the useful apps that have come out for the iPhone while WM has been all but forgotten.
android?
You could switch to a nice android device. I really like my g1 quite a bit. The app store doesn't have the volume of apps that the iphone one does, but if you factor out all the sound boards and fart machines, there isn't a huge difference.
Also, android is a platform, not a single device. I'm betting long term, you will see android win market share. It wouldn't be the first time that apple lost out with a closed, proprietary system. They did the same thing when competeing with IBM and Microsoft, and lost out there too.
I hate the Iphone, not because I'm jealous.
Its just, well, a ****ty phone all around.
Without its apps, what can it do?
Browse the webs slowly,
and make calls.
No camera / recording (untill recently)
Camera sucks anyway in quality and effects
Cant MMS,
no removable memory or battery!!
Here:
http://www.fun.chanun.com/images/Iphone-vs-Rock.jpg
And here:
http://www.ihatemyiphone.com
Also, then think about how much money you will spend with your iphone for mainly crappy apps that people make just to make money... and remember that the only way to customize it is to hack it, and risk breaking it... and even still it isnt very customizable.
Its your choise.
edit nevermind
Android is gaining a number of apps in the Android Market. Some of the apps mentioned by the OP are now available on Android and more a coming online all the time.
i made the switch.
bloody glad i did.
took a while to get into the scene / getting around the more restricted OS, but i'm glad i did. looking forwards to running android on my kaiser, but i'll probably never go back to winmo (unless 7 is worth it).
as for the apple ******ry fanboism, the antiapple fanbois are almost as bad. if something works how you want it, **** what others think.
good for you...
Gotta say, there's still a place in my heart for WinMo, and I'm really looking forward to WM7, hoping not to be disappointed. But once you jailbreak an iPhone, it's superior in basically every way. I'm sick to death of Job's draconian resistance to JB, but fortunately the community has some geniuses who can tell him where he needs to go stick his head.
Valkryomnia may hate it, but that's only because he clearly doesn't have a jailbroken iPhone, because all the things he's talking about are laughably false except for the non-removable battery and memory. However, those aren't big deals for me because at this point the choice is 32GB of non-removable memory on iPhone vs 16GB of removable on WM. Not a hard choice for me. And as for the battery, I probably will get a new phone by the time it dies anyway, so... meh.
It's funny, but at this point the thing I miss most about WM is having to fiddle around with it to get it to work. With a JB iPhone I really don't have to, not because you can't customize it (you pretty much fully can), but because it really just works. And giving up the fun of fiddling with it is a small price to pay for also giving up the frustration of the constant crashes, memory problems, incompatibilities, abandoned software that has promise but never gets finished, flashing, reflashing, and flashing, flashing, flashing constantly, etc. It's just a world of difference.
I jumped from the n-gage into the WM world and its disappointing at best in the games deppartment.
Emus and ports are good, but the iphone games are looking better each day.
Plus, 3 years ago when the iphone came out, M$ made a lot of promisses that WM could be as good as and i havent seen any yet.
I still remenber a youtube video showing the (soon to come out) Windows Vista gadgets running on the WM... where are they?
I love WM and sometimes i miss a FUN Application and Games that iPhone have but at all i can say that the iPhone is made for the Kids for peoples betwen 14 and 18 years Because the WM is more for Bussines Peoples etc.
So our HTC Phones are more Stylish for Example i use Blackstone.. we can`t even compare iPhone Vs Blackstone.
So if someday HTC start to support the device better and make new apps often some for bussines some just for fun... you know what will heppand.
I only don`t know one thing.
If i was a owner of HTC and i want to Grown Alot alot more... the 1st thing that i will do is More Support with ROM`s with Apps i can tell you with sure that if WM have the same FUN apps like iPhone and even better NO ONE WILL BUY an iPhone!!!
And i wonder why HTC don`t kick this iPhones from the Market they can do it very easy.
Even that we dont have alot WM apps made by HTC or other i still prefer to have a stylish bussines device that have many futures and potential in the future
So if you are under 18 then just buy iPhone )))
mkerr said:
i made the switch.
bloody glad i did.
took a while to get into the scene / getting around the more restricted OS, but i'm glad i did. looking forwards to running android on my kaiser, but i'll probably never go back to winmo (unless 7 is worth it).
as for the apple ******ry fanboism, the antiapple fanbois are almost as bad. if something works how you want it, **** what others think.
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I agree with that!
I've been a windows mobile user for a couple of years and while I love tweaking everything and writing apps in c#, I'm quickly growing tired of it falling so far behind the iphone and android. 6.5 is really just a new start menu and lock screen with WM2003 underneath. Back when I had a tytn I loved flashing new roms, but recently I've lot interest in it, especially when the benefits aren't really that great in terms of features.
My contract is up in January and at the moment I'm leaning towards an iphone. I like the look of android (plus I would be able to write apps for it in java), but it doesn't feel that complete to me.
My main uses for a phone are:
Web browsing - nothing beats the iphone here. Opera is nice but its painfully slow. Opera mini is also very good but the rendering doesn't look that nice.
Facebook - the iphone app is by far the best, and the windows mobile one is a joke.
Twitter - there are decent clients for all 3
Email (not push) - Pocket outlook isn't finger friendly, so its iphone or android here, but I haven't seen the android email client that much.
Writing apps - I'm happy to write java or C#, and hate objective C
Random apps - The iphone is a clear winner here
Golf scorecards with GPS - I wrote one for windows mobile, but nothing I can write could compare to apps like airvue for the iphone
Satnav - I love igo, so windows mobile wins here
Music - Once more, the iphone blows everything else away (S2P is nice, but still laggy on my diamond).
I think that if the HD2 was android then it would be a serious contender, but unless anything amazing comes out within the next 3 months I'll be jumping ship to the iphone (and probably jailbreaking it straight away).
Going back a year, I was one of the 'iphone haters', and I still hate the mac fanboy mentality of apple is best whilst blocking out all forms of logic and reason. Now I just want something which does everything I need easily and quickly.
18 months ago, if I knew I'd be thinking like this, I probably would've punched myself in the face.
same here.. i owned a o2 mini for years now using elf but when my contract finish.. hmmm 75% chance i will get iphone - hopefully by then it will have removable storage and radio..
1 i like from iphone is speed - and almost (never?) crash..
I'm not an apple fanboy, I have an ipod touch but have never owned an iphone because I like to customise my phones too much & I know you can't really do that with an iphone. Having said that, I think it's so stupid how some people pretend that the iphone isn't a good phone just because they have some sort of issue with apple or the number of people that use their products. Say what you want about the closed OS or whatever, but I don't see how you can deny that the iphone completely changed the cell phone business and for the average user there are few phones that are as easy to use and have as an asthetically pleasing interface as the iphone.
I do love the HTC design and style, but why is it always bad on hardware?
The ram and speed upgrades are always small and the video drivers are sad at best.
Its true, the WM ppcs were made for business, and never had a real "gamer liberation"... that, for me, is the problem with them.
I wanted a cheap ppc that could be, like the magician (qtek s100/s110), way ahead of its time.
All the phones I see around me are slower than my magician from 2003.
Thats why I am starting to look at the iphone.
Yes.. befor more than a year when i was looking for a new Device just to say that here in Bulgaria we don`t have so good contracts etc so when you want a new Device you just need to Buy it by yourself Cash.
So from the time i start to use Mobile Phones i always own a Nokia and i always use the latest models befor to move in WM i was on Symbian and i use the Nokia almost everyone from N series.. but befor a year i was thinking i need something new something diferent and powerfull...
and the Blakcstone just come out on the market this days and he amazed me with the Screen with thedesign and with many other things...
So the Blackstone was more expensive than the iPhone 3G here and many peoples told me better buy a HTC device this Blackstone ROCK some peoples say buy iPhone so beause everyone talk about iphone and i want something diferent that iphone because i hate when everyone use the same thing.... and the iphones become something like a madness i decide to buy my Blackstone and here cost me $900 around the iPhone 3G cost on the same time around $600 so i buy the expensive one HTC and after more than a year of use... im feeling a bit desapointed for this.
I love my Blackstone and he look cool and is a good device but i hate that i understand this later that HTC didn`t give alot support to the products they make.. so when i register here in that forum i see that many peoples Coocking ROM`s and some of the ROMs can be better than the original one..but im asking myself WHY THIS PEOPLES must to do ROMS by themselfs where is the HTC COMPANY now?
If someone say Ok we have ROMs here and etc fine but where are the FUN Enterteinment apps for our Device?
Nobody do anything for WM all USA companyes make apps for iPhone so in internet they are thousend and thousend and everyday something new.
Some peoples here try theyr best to do something but this is not enought HTC must really to think about this.. because this is a serious problem and i think in the future if they didn`t do anything to fix this problem they will lose alot costumers .....
Now i don`t like how the iPhone look... i prefer my Blackstone design i don`t like the Apple but i can`t say on the Black to say its White...really i play with some iphones and they are very FAST interface and responding to the touch and you are able to have so much FUN with that device...
Someone will say the device is made for Bussines and to calling but this is not true if i want to calling i will buy a phone for $30 without any OS and will not have delay in the ringing will not crash and etc and will be ablel to calling and etc.
Now i seriously think that soon i will be totaly pissed..from all this and will need to buy an iPhone 3G the problem is that like i say we dont have a contracts and now if i wana buy it i need to pay cash around $500 and what to do with my Blackstone? i can`t just spend money for phones like this.
Maybe i need to sell my Blackstone to take some money and to spend money buying an iPhone i hate that liek i say im not iPhone fan...but............. just HTC lose me like a costumer.
Befor a Year if someone tell me that i will buy an iPhone and will wana sell my HTC i will not believe him but this is the truth....
Not Fun Apps, Not Software not ANything they just sell you a expensive device and you can download a few ringtones from the HTC Club... THANK YOU
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With a JB iPhone I really don't have to, not because you can't customize it (you pretty much fully can),
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oh really? Please explain. No you cant, that is completely false. Show me an alternate UI? So me multi tasking? Show me anything other than the possibility of changing an icon lol. The iphone is an app launcher, plain and simple. You simply cant customize it, you can just put different apps on it.
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I'm not an apple fanboy, I have an ipod touch but have never owned an iphone because I like to customise my phones too much & I know you can't really do that with an iphone. Having said that, I think it's so stupid how some people pretend that the iphone isn't a good phone just because they have some sort of issue with apple or the number of people that use their products. Say what you want about the closed OS or whatever, but I don't see how you can deny that the iphone completely changed the cell phone business and for the average user there are few phones that are as easy to use and have as an asthetically pleasing interface as the iphone.
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i agree with what you say other than "aesthetically pleasing interface as the iphone"
How is a screen full of icons aesthetically pleasing? Its arguable that it isnt even a UI Just a program launcher
hi
with ref to the camera i dont think the HTC camera is any better
my phone has a 3.2megpik and it suks
valkryomnia said:
I hate the Iphone, not because I'm jealous.
Its just, well, a ****ty phone all around.
Without its apps, what can it do?
Browse the webs slowly,
and make calls.
No camera / recording (untill recently)
Camera sucks anyway in quality and effects
Cant MMS,
no removable memory or battery!!
Here:
http://www.fun.chanun.com/images/Iphone-vs-Rock.jpg
And here:
http://www.ihatemyiphone.com
Also, then think about how much money you will spend with your iphone for mainly crappy apps that people make just to make money... and remember that the only way to customize it is to hack it, and risk breaking it... and even still it isnt very customizable.
Its your choise.
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Now that the HD2 is for a fact now coming to T-Mobile, and the Nexus One looms over head. What should I pick?
I love Android and WM. No doubt about it. I've been in both areas of rom development. I just cant decide. Since I can only get both on subsidy, 200 vs 180 isn't that big of a deal. I am not at all a new comer to this, and I just want to know from both perspectives. Since which ever I pick I will be happy.
My Needs:
- Battery that will last all the way to the night.
- Support(Both have them I know, I used to run a rom list for the HD2)
- Style (Both are sexy)
- Speed (Both are 1ghz)
- Ram, and efficient use of it
- Applications (I did not want to use the godawful word "apps")
- The feel in your hands
- Age
- Browser (I already know how awesome WM opera is) I have a large distaste for server side rendering since its cheating.
- Practicality of functions (like how well does a certain thing work, like the camera and speaker and call quality etc. .)
- Room for improvement (rom side)
They aren't exactly my needs but its a guideline that can help. Just provide your incite.
Anyone? I could use some incite .
here you go
htc stated the nexus one isnt made to be put in pockets...ppl have been complaining about cracked screens and so forth. if u plan on having ur phone in your pocket then get the hd2.
multitouch on the hd2 is much better than the nexus...has something to do with the nexus one screen
in terms of rom development i believe that windows mobile will yield the most in potential.
But be wary...if you are wanting the windows 7 upgrade for your hd2, hold off until microsoft says whether it will be possible. I know this is a deal breaker for some people
Hmmm, I forgot to list, hows the pocketability of the device?
pocketability? whats that lol?
I've no personal experience, but from everything I've seen and read, if you can carry an iPhone, you can carry this. While the HD2 is bigger, the size difference isn't drastically different between the two.
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pocketability? whats that lol?
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I think "how easy is to put it in your pocket"
I would go for Leo because WM
I am not Andoird fan...
Lol, whats up with WM users and android?
Nothing really, nothing personal
I just think that WM is more solid OS for business environment, Android is too young now...
Perhaps in the future I can consider it but now now
I get you. Have you had any experience with this phone?
Also, what improvements has xda brought us?
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htc stated the nexus one isnt made to be put in pockets...ppl have been complaining about cracked screens and so forth. if u plan on having ur phone in your pocket then get the hd2.
multitouch on the hd2 is much better than the nexus...has something to do with the nexus one screen
in terms of rom development i believe that windows mobile will yield the most in potential.
But be wary...if you are wanting the windows 7 upgrade for your hd2, hold off until microsoft says whether it will be possible. I know this is a deal breaker for some people
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I'm pretty sure that HTC meant that you shouldn't put the phone in your BACK pocket. I have my phone in my front pockets all the time. Also the phone slides into your front pockets real easy like.
It's really Android vs. WM.
I personally would choose Android. You want many/good applications - Android has them. On WM, you find an application for pretty much everything you want, but the quality of the applications is just MUCH better on Android.
And moreover, nobody is going to develop anymore for WM6.5 when WP7S is out. The Android Market is growing fast - WM's Marketplace is even shrinking and also outside of it, there's not much going to happen.
"Pocketability": Both are good (very thin, the Nexus is a bit lighter though, but 1mm thicker)
So that's my answer: If you don't need that huge 4.3" screen or dual LED flash, or a certain feature that only WM provides - get the Nexus One (or better: The HTC Desire).
I've had both and I am currently waiting for the HD2 to come out. I like the Nexus, but the response of the touch screen is a pain sometimes. I also like the hardware buttons on the HD2. Meaning, if I need to make a call, just hit the call button.
I love how the Nexus IS the google phone, so google integration is smooth. It does all the google maps/sync/voice etc nicely. The android market is nice, but the applications there aren't that great. The only thing I have downloaded that wasn't a widget and really use is slacker radio.
Cheeze[iT] said:
The android market is nice, but the applications there aren't that great.
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Then you'll be very disappointed with the HD2, I'm afraid... except if you're into things like PSX Emulators etc., those are really great on WM.
I am into Emulators and such lol. I have a source for WM applications just as I can get a source for android applications. I could care less as long as I have a good mobile experience. Applications are cool, but some I don't use. Most of the apps im gonna get are like Google Maps, and maybe the market MySpace app(Android or WM).
I am very familiar with the Nexus One's development and its reminiscent of the G1. What has kind of made me split my decision and leave me here is the fact that all these little problems are cropping up with the Nexus, like the touch screen and the Dust, and just all the other little things.
I just need an argument from both sides to help me decide better. Right now I'm in the middle, purgatory.
I would go for the HD2. While I like both OSes, WM is still my preference. That being said, with Android being open source and WM not, it will only be a matter of time before Android is fully up and running on the HD2, the best of both worlds. There isn't a lot of WM porting going on these days, and I'm not sure if its legal, so with the Nexus one you are stuck with Android, whereas with the HD2 you will likely have a choice.
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I would go for the HD2. While I like both OSes, WM is still my preference. That being said, with Android being open source and WM not, it will only be a matter of time before Android is fully up and running on the HD2, the best of both worlds. There isn't a lot of WM porting going on these days, and I'm not sure if its legal, so with the Nexus one you are stuck with Android, whereas with the HD2 you will likely have a choice.
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I read the thread about the android for it, it seems they are stuck.
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I am into Emulators and such lol. I have a source for WM applications just as I can get a source for android applications. I could care less as long as I have a good mobile experience. Applications are cool, but some I don't use. Most of the apps im gonna get are like Google Maps, and maybe the market MySpace app(Android or WM).
I am very familiar with the Nexus One's development and its reminiscent of the G1. What has kind of made me split my decision and leave me here is the fact that all these little problems are cropping up with the Nexus, like the touch screen and the Dust, and just all the other little things.
I just need an argument from both sides to help me decide better. Right now I'm in the middle, purgatory.
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Well, I say Nexus One, or HTC Desire, unless there's something you need that it can't do.
The quality of the applications on Android is really much better, but there are some things on WM that you don't get on Android, and you should check that before you make your decision.
(and of course, there are also things on Android that you don't get one WM)
Look at the things you're doing and search whether all of that is possible on Android/WM. Then decide.
The problems with the Nexus One? They're the same on the HD2. The touchscreen has the same issues, but nobody cares, cause there's no multitouch applications on WM anyways.
Everything I want I can do on both devices. So thats the reason I am stuck between the two. I wanted the HD2 before the Nexus One came out, but the price was really high. Then the Nexus came out and I was eying it as well. Now that both devices are available to me at reasonable prices I am stuck.
you may be thinking of course the HD2 is better because of its processor speed.
well do you really need a 1ghz processor because the rhodium apparently runs fine running the hd2 system. also the rhodium has a slide out keyboard. but i if you are thinking that i'm just taking the rhodium's side i'm not because there is some better things about the hd2 like the screen and the thinness etc.
Thanks
Well a lot of people form the rodhium go to the hd2. The 1 GHZ is really noticable with a touchpro 2 there is much more lag etc. Wich really downgrade the user expierce. On a rodium evrything run a lot slower. You need take care of the ram etc. In my opinion the 1 ghz it is not something extra it is really useful. For the rest the hd2 is more future proof. The populairity says enough why there are not so much tp2 users.
but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.
Zac.Santer said:
but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.
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That was exactly my concern (and it was a big one!), but I finally gave in and decided to try the HD2 for the 2-week period that Tmobile allows here in the states. I had extreme reservations about switching to the on-screen keyboard...but after getting comfortable with swype, I can say that I'm at about 80-90% of the texting speed I could achieve with the hardware qwerty, and the ease of one-handed typing and the loss of bulk MORE than make up for that little bit of difference, for me anyway.
The HD2 also affords you sooo much more "breathing room" with the increased memory and proc speed compared to the Rhodium...it really is great to not have to worry all the time about installing or running too many things at once like I had to on my TP2. I still keep it around for tweaking/testing/playing, but I can honestly say I've never once felt the need to go back to it, even when it comes to typing.
But, it's definitely an individual choice...among those of us who moved from the TP2 to HD2, a bunch are thrilled with the new hardware, but many also opted to ditch it and go back. So...try the HD2 for a little bit if you have the option, especially with swype, and see what you think
thanks thats changed my view
Zac.Santer said:
thanks thats changed my view
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I might also suggest browsing the HD2 (Leo) forums here too, just to get an idea of what different things users are experiencing etc
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.
jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Really?
sirphunkee said:
Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.
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Right, actually I,m the most advanced prototype of humanoid with 4hands
I take the Rhodium anytime. I'd rather wait for the new Touch Pro.
I give my vote to the Rhodium.
When my Raphael brake down (a bath in Sprite) i was able to choice between HD2 and Rhodium, I was able to test HD2 which move allot more faster and it's cheaper (in my country) and the rhodium who has the almost "orgasmic" keyboard, my choice was Rhodium and I love this phone.
I have both devices.......
Both are excellent PDAs........
HD2's advantage: SPEED.....very little lag. Having owned several WM devices I never had a device faster
Rhodium's advantage: Keyboard. If you been using PDAs with keyboard, it will take some time to get used to the HD2
Overall I have to pick the HD2.......
HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
if you haven't voted yet think about the price the rhodium is so much cheaper about 100 pounds
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okkk.... i'm not sure how that fits in with the poll but there you go! if you want to unlock your rhodium or your hd2 he's the man
orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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friend'scatdied said:
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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Really?
friend'scatdied said:
HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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I had no idea HD2 has a capacitive screen! I guess I'm a little behind on that. My vote went to the Rhodium, mostly because of the keyboard and maybe some other little features.
I'm definitely considering trying out the HD2. Ithink I'll wait for more 1Ghz Snapdragon Phones to come out later on this year or early next year instead of switching to the HD2. I'm also hoping by that time the Android development for Rhodium will be at least close to fully operational.
In this day & age (21st century) you need to have 1Ghz Snapdragon or greater cpu!