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So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
There would be no way for them to actually DO that. Looking at the piece you can clearly see some are too small for the areas they are trying to cover.
Ill give the skin a few weeks and see how it feels.
For those of you interested here are some photos from the other thread that explain what I mean PERFECTLY
http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one
Well, as far as the screen protector size... EVERY stick-on protector is short. I'm guessing they all used the same template before the phone came out and are too lazy to change it.
I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
On all my previous phone, 4 so far, i used Invisible Shield, all installed on my own, and had always recommended it frens. So naturally i ordered InvisibleShield before i ordered my N1.
Previously InvisibleShield shipping was fast, this time round Nexus One came first and the shield came nearly 2 weeks after that. I never use the phone till the shield came, since i still had my old phone.
The InvisibleShield was PITA to install, the corners was not covered (as usual), the fit sucks!, Alot of big gaps here and there, i tried installing it 4-5 times, no matter how i tried i was not happy with the fit and quality.
So i return them for a refund, I needed a skin badly so i google around and read on several forums to find a better replacement.
I found BestSkinsEver, read alot of gd reviews on it, but was skeptical since the price was way cheaper then other full body skin out there.
When it arrives, i was abit disappointed. It came in a small envelope, whereas Zagg came with cardboard box with application pad and stuff. So i followed the online instruction on how to install BSE, i was amaze at how easy it was to install!
Other then mixing your own application liquid, the fit was great. I installed it once and it fit perfect!!! Very minimal bubbles, all the corners were covered!!! I did not use the screen protector though, since i prefered matt ones, easier to use Swype with.
Its been more then a month since i used BSE, still looks great. Corners not lifting, no signs of dirt trap on the sides, a prob i use always have with Zagg.
I highly recommend BSE, cheaper, fits great, cover corners, easy to install and also very enviromental friendly shipping package.
ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin
jcohenlv said:
So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
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100% spot on.
I just bought the screen shield part, and it looked like goat crap, and it wass tacky as hell. The fit was poor because it's too floppy to align, the bubbles that are supposed to go away after 24 hours didn't and there were areas around the edges that didn't stay down.
I hated it, ripped it off the phone after the 25th hour and I'll badmouth those crappy shields for the rest of my life, or until I can't remember what a Nexus One was anymore. A warranty of a lifetime replacement of goat poop is worthless to me. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
I ended up buying a Seidio case for it - it's nice and easy to remove. I will look into another brand of screen protector. I don't care if they don't last forever - if it goes a day without looking like crap it's way ahead of a Zagg. I guess when it looks that bad to begin with, you can't really tell when it's degrading too easily.
Bottom line - and I have seen a lot of them since, is that they are ALL tacky, they ALL look like crap and the ALL introduce tons of artifacts to the screen.
Buyer beware - there is no money back on these.
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I did. It was still an awful pile of crap on my screen after 24 hours - and I let it sit. It was the first time I didn't have to charge a battery in a while.
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I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
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That was a joke, right?
Meh. Zagg makes good products overall... But the FIT on the N1 is absolutely atrocious. I will gladly buy a custom zaggskin if they can get a proper fit... I just emailed them to request information on possible plans to change their design for better corner coverage, or any other options they might be able to offer.
I'm not expecting anything in regards to getting a skin from them... But I'll hope nonetheless. (I would buy BSE, but I'd REALLY love to have a custom design if Zagg can answer my request.)
uansari1 said:
As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
I bought one for my Zune 120 and installed the back and didn't bother installing the rest of it. Ended up taking it off the back. I will never buy any more of these "cover all" device covers again.
another thing that that might not be evident right away is that crud sticks to the outer edges of these types of screen protectors i had this on two non touch screen phones and didn't mind it except for the gummy crap that i'd be peeling away from the edges all the time.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
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Ok, then allow me to clarify. It DOES clear up if you install it properly. I've been using Zagg or Zagg-like products since I had my T-mobile Dash. It's just like installing window tint... if you're completely haphazard with it, it will look like crap. But in all the ones I've applied, they've all LOOKED great, aside from the orange peel effect that's evident on just about all the skin-type products. The best that I have used thus far is Clear Protector. I've had their screen protector on my G1 for almost 9 months and it looks perfect still.
Also, it (and the others) was tacky coming from just the glass screen at first. Over time the CP on the G1 has gotten MUCH smoother and less sticky. I suspect a small amount of this change is really just me getting used to the film and forgetting how smooth the glass is on its own (I remember when I took the last Zagg off my G1 prior to the CP and being surprised at how much more slick it felt), but I have compared it to one of my fresher installs and there's a noticeable difference.
Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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you're ... wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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While I agree, Zagg isn't the best out there, I can guarantee there are at least a couple that are worse! Anyway, there is enough competition and alternatives to never have to buy either of those brands, including Zagg.
binary visions said:
Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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I agree with your initial comment... and on a continuum of various subjective outcomes, I'd hardly say Zagg looks like crap. Ghost Armor is the worst I've found....yellowing after only a couple months. I'm sure others are also pretty crappy in comparison since the number of knockoffs is staggering. That being said, there are many products superior to the Zagg as well. Clear Protector, PhantomSkinz, BSE, etc.
I should clarify, contrary to what it seems you guys think, that I was never totally happy with the InvisibleSHIELD. I much preferred the Clear Protector on my G1...and on my N1, I am thoroughly happy with the dcmugen88 static screen protectors. So if I came off as a gung-ho Zagg fan... I'm not. I do think they're overpriced (seriously, $15 for just a screen protector is retarded), and there are better alternatives for less.
The point I was trying to get across, which everyone seems hellbent on disputing is that how good you are at installing makes a difference, sometimes all the difference. I can install at least the screen protector portions of these skin-type products with my eyes closed and the next day you won't even see them on there...I'm sure others can too cuz it's not rocketscience. On the other hand, I'm sure some of you don't have the patience or skill to get it looking that good either... just the way things are. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, if you guys want a great screen protector, I've been saying for over a month to go with dcmugen88... exactly the same as the Seidio product at a fraction of the price...or if you want a skin, get the BSE (Best Skins Ever) product. Paul22000's installation pics are proof positive that it's the best skin for our phones.
Well, I stand corrected. Evidently, there is an avenue for a partial refund. I say partial because the buyer is on the hook for shipping the entire package back to Zagg, and that's not free. You also need to get it done within 45 days and have your original sales receipt.
In the end, you can get SOME money back in exchange for a boatload more effort than it's worth. Still, I'd rather give the post office some money and Zagg zip, zilch, nada - so I'll be enduring the aggravation of the pursuit of a refund on general principle.
Update: After two days, I got an email back from Zagg effectively saying they don't refund items they didn't sell directly. This is not a returnable item from the retailer I bought it from - so I am back to getting even more camel dung for my money - or nothing. I choose nothing and a lesson learned.
attn1 said:
That was a joke, right?
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Well, you forgot to say "bazinga!"
Ok so its been 4 days ......
Case is still Tacky, not as bad as day 1 but still tacky!
Orange peel effect on the screen has not cleared up!
Dust and gunk are starting to build up on the edges and its been in the micro fiber bag since I bought it..... what a POS.
If you say the orange peel affect is from "poor installation" I will laugh my butt off. This was installed BY A ZAGG REP IN A ZAGG STORE! So don't give me crap about "poor installation"
I have decided to make a compromise on this. I am going to keep the full body and just replace the screen protector portion of it. I cant stand the way it affects the way it makes the screen more difficult to type on. So now I am looking for a good CLEAR screen protector.
Any recommendations?
I got my Desire HD just yesterday and before I make the big switch from my trusty G1 and wanted to install this protection that I have had for a good few weeks now.
The full body protector set I got consisted of one for the screen, a main back part, sim card slot and battery slot. It came with a spare set too.
To be honest, I'll cut to the chase. The installation was like any other full body installation in that you've got to keep your hands wet with the sopy solution (I had a spray bottle left over from a Bodyguardz set I had for my HD2 I once had). You must ensure you peel the parts off carefully making sure you don't stretch them. Bearing this in mind and being experienced in fitting this type of protection, I found the 'cut' of it to be poor.
The protection isn't "full" in my opinion. It doesn't stretch round the edges and corners therefore the most vulnerable areas to scratches and knocks is not protected. But worst of all, the deal breaker for me, was the battery cover area. I first realised that the main back part wasn't going to fit correctly when trying to put it on. The design of the protection have wrongly measured the battery cover slot and they believe it to be smaller than it is. This means that I had to cut a little bit away from the main back part. Consequently, the little piece of protector that goes on to the battery cover was too short and again means it does not provide "full" protection. The screen protection, I would of hoped, could of covered the whole thing right up to the earpiece grill but it just covers the screen.
Whether or not the screen will be less responsive, it tints yellow after time or shows any other aspect of poor build quality, time shall tell and I will edit this review accordingly.
So it is in my opinion to wait for another brand to release, InvisbleShield is in my sights as soon as its available.
Any questions, Ill be more than happy to answer
Thanks for the review but it'd me much better If you could share the front screen as well.
BTW you can purchase bestskinsever (BSE) DIY size and cut out any shaped as you need. Especially for that battery cover, you can solve yhe problem with BSE
eozen81 said:
Thanks for the review but it'd me much better If you could share the front screen as well.
BTW you can purchase bestskinsever (BSE) DIY size and cut out any shaped as you need. Especially for that battery cover, you can solve yhe problem with BSE
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Hi there, sorry yeah I'll upload a pic of the screen tonight. Kinda rushed the review earlier today just before work!
Thanks for the tip about Bestskinever though I think Im going to wait for Invisibleshield or hope that Bodyguardz produce one soon. I really like that for my old HD2
I bought mine, arrived today, it was awful, do not buy, it's stupid. I scrunched it up, do you want a picture of that? £10 down the drain.........oh well, it happens. =D
Zagg Invisible shield
I believe the Zagg invisible shield is already available. when you go to the Zagg web site, just search for HTC desire HD, and it should bring you to the site. I just ordered Maximum protection for AUS $18 (including shipping), but that's after 50% voucher. You can look for it here, and maybe post a request (im sure someone will be nice enough to share.) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664386
I do believe the Zagg quality is better (including the cut).
Ive contacted ZAGG about suppliers in Europe and this is what they answered me
Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are zealous about great gadgets! My name is Dez G and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
We ship to most places all over the world, I see no reason why we would have a problem shipping to your area. You can find a list of local re-sellers in your area via the following link. My best suggestion is to contact these re-sellers for prices. Please note that we can not offer refunds on ZAGG purchases made outside of our website but if you need any of your items replaced under the lifetime, or 1 year replacement warranty we would be happy to assist you.
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cd993 said:
I got my Desire HD just yesterday and before I make the big switch from my trusty G1 and wanted to install this protection that I have had for a good few weeks now.
The full body protector set I got consisted of one for the screen, a main back part, sim card slot and battery slot. It came with a spare set too.
To be honest, I'll cut to the chase. The installation was like any other full body installation in that you've got to keep your hands wet with the sopy solution (I had a spray bottle left over from a Bodyguardz set I had for my HD2 I once had). You must ensure you peel the parts off carefully making sure you don't stretch them. Bearing this in mind and being experienced in fitting this type of protection, I found the 'cut' of it to be poor.
The protection isn't "full" in my opinion. It doesn't stretch round the edges and corners therefore the most vulnerable areas to scratches and knocks is not protected. But worst of all, the deal breaker for me, was the battery cover area. I first realised that the main back part wasn't going to fit correctly when trying to put it on. The design of the protection have wrongly measured the battery cover slot and they believe it to be smaller than it is. This means that I had to cut a little bit away from the main back part. Consequently, the little piece of protector that goes on to the battery cover was too short and again means it does not provide "full" protection. The screen protection, I would of hoped, could of covered the whole thing right up to the earpiece grill but it just covers the screen.
Whether or not the screen will be less responsive, it tints yellow after time or shows any other aspect of poor build quality, time shall tell and I will edit this review accordingly.
So it is in my opinion to wait for another brand to release, InvisbleShield is in my sights as soon as its available.
Any questions, Ill be more than happy to answer
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It really looks bad.
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It really looks bad.
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It is
I only installed it to have some form of protection without covering the phone. Hoping Invisibleshields attempt will be better, probs will buy one soon!
Edit: Ive just emailed them asking how much protection their best product offers. Heres hoping thatit covers the phone entirely, edges included!
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Ive contacted ZAGG about suppliers in Europe and this is what they answered me
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If they make it like their iPhone 4 full body protection - don't bother . The size is wrong by 1-2mm, the cuts for the speaker, button, etc, also don't match the actual size (see the attached picture). I installed just the front and back protectors on my wife's iPhone, because seeing how wrong they are on the plain flat surface, I don't want to know what they did with the curvy edges... I ordered some original HTC protectors for my DHD because IMO they are the perfect cut and with some luck I'll manage to install one of them without any bubles (it's not impossible - I did it on the Touch HD).
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Why cant you just ordered directly from their official sites? dont need to go through their resellers. Dont think it's much cheaper to get from their local resellers. Considering you can also get discount vouchers from nice people in this forum. Shipping is not expensive (only cost me $5).
Stupid me! I bought 2 pairs before you! I got my phone about two weeks now, so I decided to have some temporary protection until something better comes out.
And after installing the first one I really felt like I was fooled its so ugly and it doesnt fit well so I decided to sent the 2nd one back the morning after... but too late my mom had already throwed the 2nd one in the recycling bin...
Now Im searching for a cheap but good quality silicone case and a cheap look a like the default HTC leather case, cause I think Ive spent enough on screen protectors!
btw my phone has still the devdef protection on it and I have to admit, it has 2 pros
* No sign of condense
* Stretchy protector
but its 100% NOT scratch proof
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Stupid me! I bought 2 pairs before you! I got my phone about two weeks now, so I decided to have some temporary protection until something better comes out.
And after installing the first one I really felt like I was fooled its so ugly and it doesnt fit well so I decided to sent the 2nd one back the morning after... but too late my mom had already throwed the 2nd one in the recycling bin...
Now Im searching for a cheap but good quality silicone case and a cheap look a like the default HTC leather case, cause I think Ive spent enough on screen protectors!
btw my phone has still the devdef protection on it and I have to admit, it has 2 pros
* No sign of condense
* Stretchy protector
but its 100% NOT scratch proof
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I hate silicone cover more than anything, but try this mate, only £2.95, but I promise that this is the best protection out for the Desire HD so far, await the case-mate barely there if you want a metal, as I am doing, I got conned by this stupid DevDef protection!
I bought one of these last week and I have to say it's probably the worst screen protector I've ever seen. The only positive I can think of is that, despite being slightly more complicated than your regular screen protector, it's easy to install it without getting any bubbles under the screen.
Once on, the screen looks extremely tacky. It's almost impossible to install it without trapping any dust underneath. Probably the worst thing about it is the feeling of the material it's made of. Despite having the whole 'being made out the same material as what's used to protect military helicopter blades' gimmick they have going on, I don't think it's a good material to have on your screen. The material is thick and soft. They say it's unlikely to scratch, but due to the soft nature of the material, it's very easy to make (permanent?) impressions into it. After just a day of use the screen looked extremely scratched up and really looked awful.
It also doesn't have a smooth finish. This really stands out when looking at it from an angle.
At prices of over £10 for only one protector this item is an absolute rip-off. Stay well away.
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After i bought this Invisible **** for my old HTC Daimond ... I will never buy again this ...this ... **** This is the best word to describe it. INVISIBLE ****
Wow, alot of bad points. I have been using thshield on all my devices in my sig, and i gotta day its worth it. my screen gets protected. yes it does scrathc, bug not as much as other sscreen protectors. i have been using mine since
s eptember. my only con is that on resitive tiuch screens, you have to prress harder on the screen and it gives an unpleasnt felling and squelching noise when you flick scroll. like chalk running down a board thing
Yeah, I bought one of these too, and it was so badly shaped, unpleasantly textured and and difficult to apply that it immediately went in the bin. In the four months or so I've had the phone I've not got a mark on the casing it yet anyway- the unibody is very tough.
I've used many different shield on my phones, and ZAGG's Invisible Shield is imo the best. After couple of days of usage it becomes really smooth and there's no bubbles or dirt under the shield. A friend of mine didn't even notice the shield until he looked at the screen from an different angle.
My advice is to use this material to protect the body, but NOT the screen.
The orange peel effect, reduced luminosity and really poor tactile feedback/stickyness make it a really bad choice.
I put one on a camera screen, also on an iPod. Several years ago now. The protection (& grip/non-slide) offered to the iPod is very positive, but it's a magnet for smudges and other imperfections.
& while we're on the subject, spend a few €/$ and get a quality screen protector from one of the trusted brands, instead of the 10 for a dollar ebay ones
I find that screen protectors last the life of my phones, so it's a small investment really.
to me there are better options than Zagg IS.
I personally never use Zagg's but I've seen couple friends of mine having problems with IS. After a year the edges of the IS-folie seemed to dry off and changed to same faint orange color. They all used full protection (screen + body) and all the edges became so and look ugly.
Upon seeing that, I used Skinomi on both my DHD and Touch HD and I am VERY satisfied. Get from Amazon.com. It's cheaper and it comes with lifetime warranty.
i managed to scratch mine yesterday so much for their special non-military crap!
i was using a pen on my phone, Lol and the pen mark got on the invisible shield. then i tried to scracth it off and it left scratches all over the screen :/
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i managed to scratch mine yesterday so much for their special non-military crap!
i was using a pen on my phone, Lol and the pen mark got on the invisible shield. then i tried to scracth it off and it left scratches all over the screen :/
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I told Ya it`s a piece of **** not SHIELD
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I told Ya it`s a piece of **** not SHIELD
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Yeah, i willl nneveer buy one aggain as a screen proottectorr. ill just buy the body housing. its crap material and texture for the screen :/
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I told Ya it`s a piece of **** not SHIELD
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yea well.. the reputation before was good. It dropped
THE BEST BEST BEST solution for me was buying CaseMate POP with screenprotector in it Can 100% recommend it!
Screenprotector CM POP is scretchproof - the black parts of CM POP are "scretchlove"
but... it's great!
I used my iPhone for two years without any protection rather the case (nothing fancy).
The DHD would get the same treatment. No shields.
Just be a little careful and don't put your phone straight in your pocket with some change in it.
Now i have to invest in a new better screen protector, any suggestions?
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I bought one of these last week and I have to say it's probably the worst screen protector I've ever seen. The only positive I can think of is that, despite being slightly more complicated than your regular screen protector, it's easy to install it without getting any bubbles under the screen.
Once on, the screen looks extremely tacky. It's almost impossible to install it without trapping any dust underneath. Probably the worst thing about it is the feeling of the material it's made of. Despite having the whole 'being made out the same material as what's used to protect military helicopter blades' gimmick they have going on, I don't think it's a good material to have on your screen. The material is thick and soft. They say it's unlikely to scratch, but due to the soft nature of the material, it's very easy to make (permanent?) impressions into it. After just a day of use the screen looked extremely scratched up and really looked awful.
It also doesn't have a smooth finish. This really stands out when looking at it from an angle.
At prices of over £10 for only one protector this item is an absolute rip-off. Stay well away.
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I fit these things in my work for a price of £6.99 or £9.99 for the whole thing, it's a good piece of kit if you don't mind the feel of it but it only really looks good on an iphone 4, you really can't notice it besides the feel, DHD on the other hand makes it look cheap an nasty, the material is the same stuff they use on the Apache helicopters, it's remouldable for a longer period of time, if you get marks on it then that's your fault, it won't allow scratches easily at all it's very robust, tbh if you want a nice smooth and strong screen protector then may i recommend a griffin as they are the smoothest.
Also when you use zagg you must leave it to set for around about 2 - 3 days to properly benefit it, if you have a problem with dust underneath the screen then you obviously haven't done it properly, i never get dust under the protector.
Krzysiec said:
THE BEST BEST BEST solution for me was buying CaseMate POP with screenprotector in it Can 100% recommend it!
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I'm using that at the moment, it's a bit chunky but then again, my hands are too so it's all good.
Very tough case, only gripe is that it gathers white bits of fluff from your pocket.
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i was using a pen on my phone, Lol/
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As soon as i read that bit of your comment I didn't need to read on, why would you use a pen on your phone? Really?
Tell you what i'll just use this sword to scratch my eye !
"999 Yep i've poked my eye out, can you help please?".
I always use zagg screen protectors and think they are the best you can buy imo lol. Had the screen protectors on all my phones and iPad and I really like the feel and I've never had to take one off because its nackered, they seem to last forever. I've just this minute put one on my new desire hd
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As soon as i read that bit of your comment I didn't need to read on, why would you use a pen on your phone? Really?
Tell you what i'll just use this sword to scratch my eye !
"999 Yep i've poked my eye out, can you help please?".
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Had to laugh at this one lol
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Mod edit: This post looks like spam, but I won't remove the thread as it has useful discussion in it.
It could die. But seriously... screen protectors? Why bother wasting your money? To be honest, you might need it if you have say keys in your pocket, but who's stupid enough? I don't know but screen protectors are a waste of time and money.
Meaple said:
screen protectors are a waste of time and money.
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To be fair, I use screen protectors. Just to be on the safe side, and they are non-obtrusive. And a waste of money? I have to disagree with that. I got 6 screen protectors off eBay for 99p UK seller- UV protection, anti-grease, anti-dust, anti-scratch. They last for about 3 months.
I think if you want to be safe, get a screen protector. They might protect your screen from damage one day, and for pennies its a worthy investment.
I disagree with Screen Protectors being a waste of money. My phone was in mint condition until I bent over and my phone slipped out my pocket.
It landed face down, on stones. I now have a scratch going right across my screen.
You get really cheap ones. But don't waste your time with those. You won't be able to see very well through them.
Go with Martin Fields protectors. Way more expensive, but worth it. I have one now.
I've used a Martin Fields one since day they were released and, combined with my HTC pull cord case, I've not got a mark on my handset. Small outlay for piece of mind IMO
I got some of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/FoneM8-Desi...UKGK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305831209&sr=8-1
Crystal clear, cheap as chips and doesn't interfere with the phone in any way.
EddyOS said:
I've used a Martin Fields one since day they were released and, combined with my HTC pull cord case, I've not got a mark on my handset. Small outlay for piece of mind IMO
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exactly the same as me since i bought my desire. perfect combination and my desire still looks like new.
I'm using Martin Fields atm. I like the fact that it comes with camera protector as well. On the other hand I find it more "scratchable" than Brando Crystal Clear I've been using before. After a year it's so scratched I gotta change it. I'll try either 3M Vikuti or Writeshield Crystal now - these are are said to be among the best.
I do recommend to buy a good screen protector and apply it properly - this is a really good guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015394
You'll never notice it's there, it'll serve you a long time, you won't have to bother with several ****ty cheapos that require frequent changes and worsen the overall user experience (worse screen clarity, bubbles, don't fit to screen properly, don't stick on the edges, unpleasant in touch etc.).
This is my take on screen protectors.
I've been using a Zagg protector for the last 6 months. Excellent protection but find the screen isnt 100% responsive or smooth.
Tempted to try another but worried that it wont go on and fit as well as the zagg...
Has anyone experience with the original HTC-Ones (HTC SP P360)?
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chrrh...
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AdamA853 said:
I have purchased an HTC Desire from Electronics a week ago. Their services were great and shipment response time was awesome. I am a frequent user of any cell phone. This is the reason why I need a new screen protector. I have also purchased an Iphone 4g unlocked from Electronics, but their protector is the best. HTC guys are bad in giving bad quality protectors and we have to buy protectors once each month. I just want to ask you guys one thing that what will happen to the mobile phone if rain water goes inside?
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Did everyone miss this? Maybe it's just me, but this looks just like SPAM. Either way, there are a ton of screen protector threads already, right? I went ahead and reported it.
JokerNJ said:
I've been using a Zagg protector for the last 6 months. Excellent protection but find the screen isnt 100% responsive or smooth.
Tempted to try another but worried that it wont go on and fit as well as the zagg...
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I had a Zagg and hated it. It distorted my screen and was not smooth to touch and drag on. I have the Vikuiti (3M) one mentioned in the "perfect application of a screen protector" thread and I couldn't be happier. I've had it on for more than a month. If I didn't know better I wouldn't even know it was there. It's VERY smooth and crystal clear so it doesn't interfere with the screen at all.
I just ordered a Brando anti glare one from there site, after watching some video's of it on youtube it looks very good.
did you guys are so poor??
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/lcd-screen-protector-with-cleaning-cloth-for-htc-g7-desire-42063
use them half of year. Did you think its a wasting of money for you 250eur phone?
It's only 2USD here in the Philippines. [
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1081571316/rhino-shield-the-impact-resistant-screen-protector
I have said before that people who think the Nexus 4 is fragile are just irresponsible and don't know how to mind their phones...
... then I dropped the phone in my backyard. On grass. While in a TPU S-case. The screen cracked and the digitizer was unresponsive.
$120, a toolkit, and a YouTube video later; I've got a repaired phone. When I leave my house, my phone always rests in a case, whether S-case, Poetic Palette, or Poetic Slimbook. And these cases always add a noticeable amount of bulk.
I'd love to be able to use the phone caseless, but I don't want to shell out another $120 and spend another evening replacing the screen.
So... I'd be very grateful if someone would please explain to me why I shouldn't buy this. Tell me why it doesn't provide drop protection. Or that the phone would still break from a 5 foot fall into concrete. Tell me that the coverage means nothing and that edge protection is necessary if the event of a drop.
Or... you can tell me that this screen protector provides as much protection as the Poetic Palette/Rearth Ringke
I'm only asking for real advice, because I really want to go caseless, and if the Rhino Shield provides adequate drop protection, I will. 2x0.29 mm isn't too thick (0.58 mm for our slow friends) and is certainly thinner than any case possible.
P.S. If the Kickstarter is cancelled, everyone gets their money back (no scam).
I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I have a question.
when your phone dropped (with the S TPU) you didn't have any screen protector on?
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I did not have a screen protector on.
More and extraneous detail: I had just gotten the phone replaced, as my first N4 had a faulty radio that consistently dropped cellular data. With my replacement, I left the packing film on the back, but removed the front film.
When I dropped the phone, it landed on it's back. Somehow, only the front cracked. The back remains pristine, though I have since removed that packing film.
there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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there's your answer. put the film back on. you're welcome.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
I was joking actually but thanks for the info
AW: Ok, talk me out of buying this: Rhino Shield.
That would be seriously nice if the Kids were playing on my Device!
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so basically it's a product similar to wrapsol and ~5 $ cheaper
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Ahh, now there's a helpful post. I looked up Wrapsol protectors and found this review on Amazon:
the product was delivered very quick almost 5 days faster than expected. I bought this product on amazon since they stopped selling them in my local walmart. Couldn't be happier the full screen protector is the way to go since you get full protection with minimal size increase. I have dropped my phone probably over 150 times over the past year with this wrapsol full screen protector on it and it has yet to crack any of those times (including tile, terrazzo, and concrete).
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I've looked at the other reviews, for all kinds of iPhones, and found that Wrapsol protectors stretch over time. I really hope this doesn't happen to Rhino Shield, but I'll just make them give me a new one if that happens. I mean, it would be pretty messed up if you got a screen protector, and after a year it misaligned to the point of function loss.
I saw a post today (on another forum) about someone dropping a nexus 4 with wrapsol on it- he got out of a car and forgot the phone was on his lap, and he says the screen shattered at 3 different places.
in my opinion, these types of screen protectors may help as long as the phone doesn't fall on one of its corners.
Amazer already has one of these
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-ShatterProof-Screen-Protector-Front-Coverage-P95221.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl1bRTldo
their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
I'm not sure how similar the rhino shield is compared to invisible shield but I've been using that on all my phones for a long time and can tell you that even on corner drops I have not had a single cracked screen. I got the full body shield installed by the guy at the mall selling it for $35. I think you can buy it without someone installing it for less.
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their brick test is incredible...
however, the rhino is about half the price
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Again, I'm quite skeptical about the rigor of these companies' testing methods. I just don't feel like the hammer and bricks tests represent real life hazards to phones. They should perform a drop test onto a hard surface, and repeat dropping until the glass shatters or they show that the screen protector really is shatterproof. I'd love to see a worst case scenario from a set of 100 trials.
From what I see if specs, Rhino is at least 50% thicker than similar shatterproof film. I just wish Rhino would release chemical info of the polymer that used
I already gave Rhino Shield my USD$24, though.
I think I am in for one
I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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I am waiting at home for the Fed Ex truck to arrive with my repaired Nexus 4. Dropped it from 1.5 feet onto the tile in my bathroom and the front screen shattered and the digitizer stopped working. I would love to see this in a drop test but those videos look impressive. My fault for not having a case on it yet but it is ridiculous how fragile this phone is. I don't understand how Google and LG Engineering would allow this out the door like this. I could easily see some sort of class action lawsuit coming over the build robustness and I will be sure to sign up if/when it happens to get some of that $140 repair bill back. I am going to contribute to this kickstarter. Looks like they are getting close to their goal.
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Everyone knows they bought a glass frint/back phone, I doubt there's going to be a class action lawsuit... Lol
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Where/how do you order one?
ClintRhodes said:
Where/how do you order one?
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You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
It sounds good. I might back it.
How do you all think this compares to the Fantom 4 tempered glass screen protectors? I was thinking of getting one of those.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious or you truly don't understand the point of my thread...
This Kickstarter is for a very durable screen protector that appears resilient against single point impact. However, I don't know how it fares against an actual drop. I'm particularly interested in how it would do against concrete.
I'd be very interested in using my phone without a case, and this specific screen protector boasts significantly more protection than a standard screen protector. Watch the video. Spoiler: a 255g ball bearing is dropped from 48cm onto a Gorilla Glass 2 panel with Rhino Shield and escapes intact. The same bearing is then dropped from a mere 9cm onto the same glass panel which is now using a "standard" screen protector. This time, the screen cracks all over.
However, someone who has more experience in industrial design or phone durability may be able to dispel the Rhino Shield claims. Maybe their test was not representative of an actual drop. Maybe edge protection is far more important.
One thing is certain about your advice... I'm not going to heed it!
Edit: this video is a more direct comparison, using a real phone this time. It seems very impressive, but I'm still concerned about hire important edge protection is in the case of a real world drop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk70XEYk53Y
Edit 2: this video actually had drop results and they seem promising. I'm going to bite the bullet and get one. I'll try to remember to update this thread in the future if my phone breaks. If I don't, assume it hasn't! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humEMjHElG0
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i posted in the rhino thread about the edge not being protected so there's not a lot of real drop protection. Im not and expert on phone design but if you take a look at your phones or videos of drop test, esp. the ones in slow mo, you can see that on a flat surface the phone will impact the edges most of the time. There's lots of pics of phones with shattered screens and the ones from drops usually are cracked from an edge or corner. the Nexus 4 is going to be worst than other phones because the screen curves around the bezel exposing more glass in a vulnerable area that is not covered by the screen protector. If you want drop protection get a case with lip around the screen. Get a screen protector if you dont want scratches.
Android001 said:
You can either back them on Kickstarter and choose the Nexus 4 front and back protector as a 'reward' (costs £16 to get that reward).
Alternatively you can wait for it to come into production and buy it just like any other product.
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backing a kickstarter will not guarantee you get anything, most fail even the ones with enough backing and there's no refunds with kickstarter. You are also getting an untested product until someone can get it and verify the manufacture's claims.