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CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)

Are we ever going to see a ROM based on the latest stable CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)..? If I knew what I was doing, I would have been located this ROM and made it readily available to all as soon as it came out... It seems as if we almost got bamboozled into thinking the 1978 build was the latest ROM released which turned out to be a fake build in the long run...

New ROM of duttythroy is based on latest Build 18533.0.7.0. See ==>here<==.

duttythroy:
Its the latest Build 18533.0.7.0 with CE OS 5.2.1978 based on helmi_C pre-released rom.
It is based on the 18533.0.7.0 build but the CE OS is not based on CE OS 5.2.1933...
Anyone..?

CE OS 5.2.1933 is the latest build
the 1978 is an hex edited rom from 1918 build

I don't think there's a Kaiser rom based on 1933 is there yet?

all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.

Okay... It kind of makes sense to me now. I could have sworn that all of the devices had access to the same ROM's once they become available and we (Kaiser/Tilt owners) just haven't paid any attention to the latest builds... I'm hoping we do get a real updated ROM in the near future though...

austinsnyc said:
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
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What exactly is your CE OS and Build?

I agree the ported roms may not be the best, but HTC is on a trend to release many msm7200 based devices, like the Touch Dual for exemple, which is extremely similar to the tytn2, and as such should profide a good source of updates.

Sounds good to me. I guess we just have to patiently wait if we want the best possible ROM's for our devices...

austinsnyc said:
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
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I have to agree with austin.... having tried every release for Kaiser so far I always go back to his bigstorage version as it´s rock solid. For your info the CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)

!!! THE CLEANEST ROM with latest updates !!!

Hi there,
Anyone knows about any cleanest ROM with latest updates (OS patches, HTC patches) and no other stuff in it?
I would go for Alex's UltraCLEAN ROM but it looks like the OS is too old comparing to Helmi's/Dutty's/Schap's ones.
So far the best I ever used is Helmi's Clean ROM, no custom splashscreens, no custom graphics, just completely clean ROM (I appreciate any performance tweak, not bloody graphics )
But it looks like it's out of date these days...
Any hints?
Thanks,
Gabriel

ROM OS versions
To be clear:
Duttys New years Rom 2k8 Fixed [DualTouch v2] TouchFLO: v5.2.1933 build 18533.dutty
Dutty's SupaLite Rom v5.2.1948 build 20000.dutty
Alex.HTC.156.UC4.ROM v5.2.1620 build 18125.0.4.2
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM v5.2.1948 build 18548.0.7.0
Helmi kaiser aku.0.7.0_04_clean v5.2.1978 build 18578.0.7.0
See the difference?

Hmm isn't Helmis the latest OS version rather than the most outdated?!?!

undac said:
Hmm isn't Helmis the latest OS version rather than the most outdated?!?!
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Ha! You see? you got the point
How can he have such build (acting as a newest one) and be almost 3 months out of date?
Any fake going around?

FWIW, I stripped and released the Folders & OEM packages from the HTC ROM found in this thread.

thats not exactly how is works
Its not always the newest builds that are the best
But the builds usually is ported from other devices, like polaris, touch dual or w/e.
I have portet the build in my kaiser to herald, (norwegian) and I portet polaris os to herald (wwe) its the same build, I duplicated excatly same edits, removals of files...did exactly the same setup. But there is a very noticeable diffrence in speed and stability on the two ports, even though it has same apps, same setup, same os build.
I dunno if this explain anything to anyone
But do not make the mistake beliving newer os version is better.
cheers

IIRC (and I could be completely wrong here) the 5.2.1978 build was a fake.
Something to consider with these build versions is that not all of them are built for the Kaiser - some of them have been ported from other releases for other models of device.
Some people only believe in using builds that were intended for the Kaiser, others think that there are benefits from using new versions.
As with all things in software, with fixes come more bugs - newer revisions might have one thing fixed, but another three broken. You never can tell.
Beyond ROM versions, there's also software versions which can be even more significant. For example, we're seeing roms with a much newer version of the camera software now.
So there's an awful lot to consider really.

Alex 1.6 rom is using the most updated at&t rom which should include all the basic patches from bluetooth hot fix to the other stuff. If you want newest NetCF on there, you can cook that in. Many of those roms have been tweaked out, so using Alex's rom, I think is the cleanest. A little bit more understanding of these version numbers would help you understand more about these roms.

itje said:
thats not exactly how is works
Its not always the newest builds that are the best
But the builds usually is ported from other devices, like polaris, touch dual or w/e.
I have portet the build in my kaiser to herald, (norwegian) and I portet polaris os to herald (wwe) its the same build, I duplicated excatly same edits, removals of files...did exactly the same setup. But there is a very noticeable diffrence in speed and stability on the two ports, even though it has same apps, same setup, same os build.
I dunno if this explain anything to anyone
But do not make the mistake beliving newer os version is better.
cheers
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Absolutely agree with you itje. The latest HTC OEM apps also go a long way in helping you determine how "latest" a ROM is. CE OS Build alone shows only part of the picture...

Where does one get a clean os for kitchen?

Im looking for a clean os, preferably CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0).
I want to have a clean base OS to start adding my fixes, applications and tools. I have tried to disect many of the "vanilla" versions from people, but even their clean versions still include a lot of garbage I dont want and is almost impossible to clean. I would rather start from a totally clean os and build up from there.
Thanks,
jay

I would also like to know this.
further, how can one be sure that a 'clean' os (or any freely downloadable rom for that matter) is free from software that snoops on you, etc?

Here is the 19400 dump
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kdincu

I wonder, is a Hermes dump usable to cook a Wizard ROM?
And you mention, "CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0).". Is that newer or older than the custom ROMS that are advertised as WM 6.1 build 19209? I mean, does that mean CE 5.2.19209 build xxxxxx or CE 5.2.xxxxx build 19209?
Cheers!

CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0) means OS from new build, XIP from old build.
However there are some fake ROMs that with modified OS version, this may be the case (Because official 19209 ROM is AKU 1.0.2, how come this ROM is still AKU1.0.0?)
ROMs for other devices can be used in Wizard after porting (at least OS(SYS+OEM) porting must be done). You may use XIP from other Wizard ROMs, but will show your old XIP build in the About screen.

Thanks for the explanation, it's clear now

How to make original 6.1 builds with improved 2D

Hi...I just need pointing in the right direction to get the improved 2D performance drivers of the official released 6.1 builds working on the original Beta 6.1 builds.
I know how to cook my own custom ROMs, but just need to know what I need to drag from the newer build to the older one.
Has anyone made a cooked ROM of this spec already?
I need a ROM like this as I want to run the original NIKI Radios again as I miss their performance, but don't want to sacrifice the improved 2D in the later 6.1 builds.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers.

[Q] Does anyone have the native wm6.5 nk.exe for P4350?

Does anyone have the native wm6.5 nk.exe for P4350?

The 6.5 nk is very unstable when using it with the Wing/Herald; the 6.5 nk doesn't load for me at all.
Being that our devices were meant to only use 6.1, I cook with the 6.1 nk with my 6.5.5 ROMs.
But that also doesn't make it a 6.1 ROM, however. As long as you're using 6.5.5 builds.

Tribulattifather said:
The 6.5 nk is very unstable when using it with the Wing/Herald; the 6.5 nk doesn't load for me at all.
Being that our devices were meant to only use 6.1, I cook with the 6.1 nk with my 6.5.5 ROMs.
But that also doesn't make it a 6.1 ROM, however. As long as you're using 6.5.5 builds.
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Thank you for your answer and sorry for my English.
I wonder if the 6.5 unstale nk you used was extracted from the OMAP850 devices.
I think it is normal to be unstable with the 6.5 nk from non-OMAP850 devices.
Do all the new features fully supported with 6.1 nk in 6.5.5 builds? Or is it stable?

Actually, there has never been a 6.5 nk made with our devices.
But rest assured, my ROMs are all tested and stable; I use all my ROMS. I am actually using my iTrib SD ROM right now.

Tribulattifather said:
Actually, there has never been a 6.5 nk made with our devices.
But rest assured, my ROMs are all tested and stable; I use all my ROMS. I am actually using my iTrib SD ROM right now.
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I googled the whole web, and couldn't find a 6.5 native kernel for omap850-based devices.
But I have done a research on how to create a nk.exe for wm6.5.
an aku , the wince source and the hardware BSP is necessary.
Luckily, with the efforts, I have found the BSP for OMAP850's chip.
Unluckily, i don't have the aku and wince5.2 source and don't know how to build a os with them.
Did you have any ideas?
BTW, Were Herald meant to use wm6.0 or wm6.1.
I couldn't find a official wm6.1 rom for herald but a wm6.0 rom build 18128 in advance from T-Mobile.
In addition, Does your nk.exe come from wm6.1 roms?
Or Does the nk.exe support the wm6.1 new virtual memory feature that is files(not modules,we know in wm6.5 there are modules and files) can access to the slot 60 and slot 61.
here is about new virtual memory in windows mobile(6.0/6.1/6.5):http://hi.baidu.com/donghaozheng/blog/item/1a0f37db4798196ed1164e56.html
Sorry for my bad english..