Hi there,
Anyone knows about any cleanest ROM with latest updates (OS patches, HTC patches) and no other stuff in it?
I would go for Alex's UltraCLEAN ROM but it looks like the OS is too old comparing to Helmi's/Dutty's/Schap's ones.
So far the best I ever used is Helmi's Clean ROM, no custom splashscreens, no custom graphics, just completely clean ROM (I appreciate any performance tweak, not bloody graphics )
But it looks like it's out of date these days...
Any hints?
Thanks,
Gabriel
ROM OS versions
To be clear:
Duttys New years Rom 2k8 Fixed [DualTouch v2] TouchFLO: v5.2.1933 build 18533.dutty
Dutty's SupaLite Rom v5.2.1948 build 20000.dutty
Alex.HTC.156.UC4.ROM v5.2.1620 build 18125.0.4.2
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM v5.2.1948 build 18548.0.7.0
Helmi kaiser aku.0.7.0_04_clean v5.2.1978 build 18578.0.7.0
See the difference?
Hmm isn't Helmis the latest OS version rather than the most outdated?!?!
undac said:
Hmm isn't Helmis the latest OS version rather than the most outdated?!?!
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Ha! You see? you got the point
How can he have such build (acting as a newest one) and be almost 3 months out of date?
Any fake going around?
FWIW, I stripped and released the Folders & OEM packages from the HTC ROM found in this thread.
thats not exactly how is works
Its not always the newest builds that are the best
But the builds usually is ported from other devices, like polaris, touch dual or w/e.
I have portet the build in my kaiser to herald, (norwegian) and I portet polaris os to herald (wwe) its the same build, I duplicated excatly same edits, removals of files...did exactly the same setup. But there is a very noticeable diffrence in speed and stability on the two ports, even though it has same apps, same setup, same os build.
I dunno if this explain anything to anyone
But do not make the mistake beliving newer os version is better.
cheers
IIRC (and I could be completely wrong here) the 5.2.1978 build was a fake.
Something to consider with these build versions is that not all of them are built for the Kaiser - some of them have been ported from other releases for other models of device.
Some people only believe in using builds that were intended for the Kaiser, others think that there are benefits from using new versions.
As with all things in software, with fixes come more bugs - newer revisions might have one thing fixed, but another three broken. You never can tell.
Beyond ROM versions, there's also software versions which can be even more significant. For example, we're seeing roms with a much newer version of the camera software now.
So there's an awful lot to consider really.
Alex 1.6 rom is using the most updated at&t rom which should include all the basic patches from bluetooth hot fix to the other stuff. If you want newest NetCF on there, you can cook that in. Many of those roms have been tweaked out, so using Alex's rom, I think is the cleanest. A little bit more understanding of these version numbers would help you understand more about these roms.
itje said:
thats not exactly how is works
Its not always the newest builds that are the best
But the builds usually is ported from other devices, like polaris, touch dual or w/e.
I have portet the build in my kaiser to herald, (norwegian) and I portet polaris os to herald (wwe) its the same build, I duplicated excatly same edits, removals of files...did exactly the same setup. But there is a very noticeable diffrence in speed and stability on the two ports, even though it has same apps, same setup, same os build.
I dunno if this explain anything to anyone
But do not make the mistake beliving newer os version is better.
cheers
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Absolutely agree with you itje. The latest HTC OEM apps also go a long way in helping you determine how "latest" a ROM is. CE OS Build alone shows only part of the picture...
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Dear All,
I would like to ask what is the latest WM2005 ROM version? and is it the best ROM? if not then what is the best version? I have found some on buzzdev.net but I don't know because this my first unofficial upgrade.
I have XDA II with loader 1.01.
Thanks a Lot,
they are all based on the same core rom with improvements
newer versions == more improvements
other then that it's all about how big a ramdisk they are installed
hi rudegar,
sorry, but I must disagree.
they are not based on the same core...
and there's much more differencies, than just size of RAMdisk.
take care
buzz
and what the difference between rom kitchen n rom?? i've read the post by buzz in buzzdev.net, there is 40mb in rom kitchen n 20mb in rom.. what type should i use??
thanx
Updates are good
buzz_lightyear said:
hi rudegar,
sorry, but I must disagree.
they are not based on the same core...
and there's much more differencies, than just size of RAMdisk.
take care
buzz
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I agree with Buzz.
I think that windows mobile 5.0 is based on windows CE 5.0 architecture and there can be updates to both and the size of a ram disk is not that important as long as a device is capable of running your desired apps without running out of program memory. A newer roms is likely to run better and be more compatible with apps but can still contain bugs. I think that I got more performance from reg editing and ocing that upgrading from 2003se to 5.0 but i always try a new rom.
Buzz do you use ms voice command and any idea on the problem it has with AKU 3.2?
p.s. a rom kitchen is where roms are cooked!
"I think that windows mobile 5.0 is based on windows CE 5.0 architecture"
well we all agree on that one
the place that buzz set to streigth was when i said that
all windows mobiles were based on the same leaked 2005 rom
What I have seen is ROMs based on AKU 2, AKU 2.3, and AKU 3.2. of course each with it's own personal customization and may be some tweaks for performace. From the experiance what is the main differances between AKU versions and what is the best customization from the features and the performace point of view?
I have tried all the wm05 roms here but i got nothing but the sad thought that i don't have a compatible wm5 device. All of them have many flaws and none of them work correctly or as fast as they should be.. not even 03se. After many upgrades and downgrades i found out that the best one is the qtek rom and nothing else. It wasn't suposed to work on wm5 so don't upload versions with bugs and so... try to get a version that will not move slow, will have all the original programs, all the original programs will work and let the user install whatever he wants, don't make roms with preinstalled programes because that only makes them work slow .
Try AKU 3.2 ROM as they r latest and the stable one .
agree with you. stable and fast.
I've been trying to get help on another thread but no one is helping.These cabs are mainly ment for WM6, but is there a way to patch these for WM5? Check out the link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331955
Thanx! =)
Umm upgrade to Wm6.
Toodeep said:
Umm upgrade to Wm6.
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I agree. It is time to upgrade my friend... There are so many roms out there that are almost 100% stable with everything working and not all of them include all of the extra crap either... If you wanted to keep the same general look going on and not the touchflo if thats what you're trying to avoid, then look into some of the professional roms instead of the touch roms.
A good example is TNT5.0 Professional. It has all the amendaties of WM5 but also supports all of the WM6 software.
...Thats my opinion anyway
I have
I've updated to WM6 many times with multiple roms, but they tend to lag in performance. Though one rom looks promicing is this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331812
BUT! It's a Hermes rom and I have no Idea how to flash that onto a wizard. So instead of risking my Wizard to brick, I was hoping someone could possibly patch those cabs for WM5.
If anyone is looking for a little project, please patch those cabs on the first post.
Thank you
i use TNE with over clocking, with no problems. just as fast as wm5 if not faster.
touch no evil.
and dont flash a wm6 rom that wasnt built for the wizard.
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I've updated to WM6 many times with multiple roms, but they tend to lag in performance. Though one rom looks promicing is this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331812
BUT! It's a Hermes rom and I have no Idea how to flash that onto a wizard. So instead of risking my Wizard to brick, I was hoping someone could possibly patch those cabs for WM5.
If anyone is looking for a little project, please patch those cabs on the first post.
Thank you
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give this rom a try. It was originally made by its right but I personally modified it to have a larger page pool and is quite fast.
It is a touchflo rom though... Not sure how fond you are of those style roms...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TM2N1W2R
???????????
Well does anyone just have the base WM6 rom that I can flash? Nothing custom, just the standard, factory WM6 rom? Cuz that would be the only way I would be willing to upgrade. If not then I just want the cabs to work on WM5.
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Well does anyone just have the base WM6 rom that I can flash? Nothing custom, just the standard, factory WM6 rom? Cuz that would be the only way I would be willing to upgrade. If not then I just want the cabs to work on WM5.
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Well there is TNT Official... It's the closest to an actual OFFICIAL Wizard WM6 rom as you are going to get...
Install that(it is CLEAN, nothing on it really) and you can install anything you want if you're not interested in a custom rom.
You could also give this a once over...
*Updated 9/27/07 8:30am* BETA TESTERS NEEDED! The Real Official WM6 OS
Are we ever going to see a ROM based on the latest stable CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)..? If I knew what I was doing, I would have been located this ROM and made it readily available to all as soon as it came out... It seems as if we almost got bamboozled into thinking the 1978 build was the latest ROM released which turned out to be a fake build in the long run...
New ROM of duttythroy is based on latest Build 18533.0.7.0. See ==>here<==.
duttythroy:
Its the latest Build 18533.0.7.0 with CE OS 5.2.1978 based on helmi_C pre-released rom.
It is based on the 18533.0.7.0 build but the CE OS is not based on CE OS 5.2.1933...
Anyone..?
CE OS 5.2.1933 is the latest build
the 1978 is an hex edited rom from 1918 build
I don't think there's a Kaiser rom based on 1933 is there yet?
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
Okay... It kind of makes sense to me now. I could have sworn that all of the devices had access to the same ROM's once they become available and we (Kaiser/Tilt owners) just haven't paid any attention to the latest builds... I'm hoping we do get a real updated ROM in the near future though...
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all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
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What exactly is your CE OS and Build?
I agree the ported roms may not be the best, but HTC is on a trend to release many msm7200 based devices, like the Touch Dual for exemple, which is extremely similar to the tytn2, and as such should profide a good source of updates.
Sounds good to me. I guess we just have to patiently wait if we want the best possible ROM's for our devices...
austinsnyc said:
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
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I have to agree with austin.... having tried every release for Kaiser so far I always go back to his bigstorage version as it´s rock solid. For your info the CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
Im looking for a clean os, preferably CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0).
I want to have a clean base OS to start adding my fixes, applications and tools. I have tried to disect many of the "vanilla" versions from people, but even their clean versions still include a lot of garbage I dont want and is almost impossible to clean. I would rather start from a totally clean os and build up from there.
Thanks,
jay
I would also like to know this.
further, how can one be sure that a 'clean' os (or any freely downloadable rom for that matter) is free from software that snoops on you, etc?
Here is the 19400 dump
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kdincu
I wonder, is a Hermes dump usable to cook a Wizard ROM?
And you mention, "CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0).". Is that newer or older than the custom ROMS that are advertised as WM 6.1 build 19209? I mean, does that mean CE 5.2.19209 build xxxxxx or CE 5.2.xxxxx build 19209?
Cheers!
CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0) means OS from new build, XIP from old build.
However there are some fake ROMs that with modified OS version, this may be the case (Because official 19209 ROM is AKU 1.0.2, how come this ROM is still AKU1.0.0?)
ROMs for other devices can be used in Wizard after porting (at least OS(SYS+OEM) porting must be done). You may use XIP from other Wizard ROMs, but will show your old XIP build in the About screen.
Thanks for the explanation, it's clear now
Ok - I've looked through a bunch of threads. I just want to put WM 6.1 as you get it from HTC on my Tilt.
I live in the US so I don't have access to it.
All the ROMs I see in the threads below are all customized, etc... I just want the standard WM 6.1 ROM. Where can I get instructions on how to do this?
you can dl it from:
http://member.htc.com/downloadfiles....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
sorry, the link doesnt work... needs ID and password....
you can find it in kaiser wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
you will need to unlock the CID in order to flash the HTC branded ROM
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Ok - I've looked through a bunch of threads. I just want to put WM 6.1 as you get it from HTC on my Tilt.
I live in the US so I don't have access to it.
All the ROMs I see in the threads below are all customized, etc... I just want the standard WM 6.1 ROM. Where can I get instructions on how to do this?
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or you can wait a few days and nothrills will be releasing a wm6.1 rom. All his roms are pure htc roms except for performance tweaks everything else is as it would come from htc themself.
Really????? I didnt know that... A good news for me.. haha
Meanwhile you can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399150.
I like it... almost comparable to shogunmark's rom. You can read through the thread.. only 2 pages... maybe because of new chef, not many want to try.
I'm glad that i try... stick with it now...
adamrogers said:
Ok - I've looked through a bunch of threads. I just want to put WM 6.1 as you get it from HTC on my Tilt.
I live in the US so I don't have access to it.
All the ROMs I see in the threads below are all customized, etc... I just want the standard WM 6.1 ROM. Where can I get instructions on how to do this?
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You can look at my lite rom. It contains only files from MS and HTC device drivers. All custom applications have been removed. I also included the ROM Folders so you can customize it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399733
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English)
Look for the ROM titled 3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) in the Wiki or check this thread for mirrors...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393535
This is the HTC 6.1 world wide english (WWE) release.If using a Tilt you will want to install the latest Jockey 3.28 hardspl first. You will also need an ATT Keyboard fix cab file (see the thread) and will need to uncheck the proxy in Settings/Connections/Connections/Proxy Settings after at&t network settings are auto-configured.
You could also try the latest at&t 6.1 (almost OFFICIAL) test ROM titled ATT 19213 build with 1.65.20.29 radio. See this thread for mirrors and more...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391708
I am using both with good results. Both are full 6.1 ROMs, are stable and contain all HTC improvements for video and general performance.
Both are very similar at their core. The at&t ROM is bloated with at&t specific features and additional junk. You can eliminate much of this from your user interface but will lose storage space.
I am running a nearly identical set of apps on both with good results.
EDIT: a newer at&t test version is now available at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400276
I can see that most of the advanced chefs are cooking diamond based roms for kaiser and pure kaiser ROMs is undergoing not much change ( May be the CHEFs want more challenge ;-) ). I would personally love to see a very stable and very fast Kaiser based rom. DIamond ROM in kaiser , not doubt slows the performance....
drgopoos said:
I can see that most of the advanced chefs are cooking diamond based roms for kaiser and pure kaiser ROMs is undergoing not much change ( May be the CHEFs want more challenge ;-) ). I would personally love to see a very stable and very fast Kaiser based rom. DIamond ROM in kaiser , not doubt slows the performance....
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If i'm not mistaken, rom posted by hang.tuah is a kaiser rom. Here take a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399150
-The pure HTC Asia WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)
Fast and stable IMHO.