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Hey everyone!
First off I want to thank Dr. Gonzo again for the 6.1 rom. It's great and love it!
Second, I was using the HTC home screens that user tho made (found here) and I really got used to having the weather plugin on the homescreen. I really like how the homescreen is setup on this new rom, but I still want a weather plugin for it. Is there any way to add that plugin to this homescreen?
thanks.
if i was you i would try the following:
install the home plugin on your device. copy the .xml file from the plugin to your harddrive. open it and find the coresponding <plugin...> entry for the plugin. Then copy this entry to the xml-file of your skin of choice and there it should appear again... if it does not work or you have no clue what i was talking about, give me report.. i will try to do it for you,
Yea that's what I was thinking about doing. I just did not know if it would work or if it would look alright. I'm at work now so I don't really want to mess with it, but I'm going to try that when I get home.
ok. let us know if it worked when you're done
Wow this is a lot more difficult than I had thought. I can't find the weather plugin in the HTC Home screen and as the other thread may have tipped you off, the Sliding Panel home screen is very confusing to work with.
Basically what I would like to accomplish is to have Weather on my homescreen, while still using the Sliding Panel motif. So like if I could click over to the right next to where it displays the time it would show the weather. I'm going to keep working on this, but if anyone would like to jump in and help me I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
according to the slide panel. I think all you can do is to manipulate the panels with basic configurations read out from the registry. It is not that easy to create something new, but i think a good point to start is always the manipulation of the welcome center, because this one is what most people need when they like to make "their own panels". The only way something will create a new slide is to code a plugin which is dedicated to appear in the slides. and still someone has to figure out what basic options are needed to create a new panel or to figure out what these guids are respectively.
Can you provide the htc home xml at least? it would be nice to have all extracted files in a zip file, so i do not have to install it again and pic all files out by myself.
Well that's sortof bad news that I can't create something new, however it might still be possible to edit the home panel to add that in?
I attached the xml for one of the home screens. I looked through it all and couldn't find the plugin for the weather but maybe you will have better luck than I will.
well, that is exactly what i meant. First choice, change one of the existing panels. If it works then and someone can explain those damn GUIDs I think we would manage to get it work on an own panel.
As far as it is "documented" in the XML (which is quite interesting i think for non wm6.1) this is the plugin-option for the htc home:
<plugin clsid="{B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}" name="HTCHome" height="88"></plugin>
This means to me, that cannot extract the weather-plugin for the homescreen unless you know how the home-plugin was made and the weather-plugin is a standalone, built-into htc home.
if you install the htc home, and edit your slidingpanel.xml with this tag somewhere, the home plugin should appear. I added the .xml for Frau Hottelmanns panther scheme with the htc home plugintag so you can see what i mean (not sure if the comment-tag is allowed, so just remove it before uploading to your device).
This is all I can do for you right at the moment.
Alright, Thanks a lot. I will try it when I get home.
I am really sorry that i wrote some damn ******* before It surely is possible to create new slides!!! It is just not possible to create a slide with ANY functionality
i just had the idea, that we may figure out what the minimal options for a slide are and then go on to figure out what the others are. But if we know the minimal options we could for example copy the testuiplugin-panel and try to get it work with the entire htc home plugin in it.
just wanted to write that, so you would not be that hopeless
Ok, what i found so far is:
- The htc home plugin works on wm6.1 as usual
- It seems not to work with the bronze-plugin in the same theme
* when loading the theme, the htc home plugin is displayed but vanishes as fast as the bronze-plugin is loaded.
* i played around with the height-attribute from the bronze-plugin but it seems to have absolutely no effect
- what i discovered in one of the previous skins is, that there are at least two major plugins for the htc home plugin which can be loaded in a theme. there is the notificationbar where the calls and sms etc. are shown and there is the htchome where the weather is displayed and so on.
- I also found that the exe-file for the weather-plugin is located at /windows/weather.exe so maybe its possible to configure the "output" on a call of this file and the weatherplugin is displayed (which means that we could put it into a slide)
- I also found an old thread here on xda for the "customization" of the htc home plugin, but it seems that the way the plugin works has changed since this thread and the version gregory released
- what is missing is something like a documentation on the htc home plugin, so which parts are implemented, how are they called from the homescreen etc. maybe gregory, if he's still around here has any idea(s) ???
- i just got that the weather.exe sets the city, downloads and refreshes the local weatherdata. So the output has to be somewhere else.
sounds like you are onto something here. Since the HTC home weather plugin is causing some problems, I think I am going to take a look at some other weather plugins. They might make it a little easier. I'm specifically looking at SPB Weather and Fizz Weather.
The only problem is, once I install them I'm not really sure how to put them into the slide panel. I'm going to play around with it and I'll let you know.
A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
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A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
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You mit be better waitin until HTC release a WM6.1 Standard ROM to see if HTC customize bronze to have parts of there Home plugins integrated and extract everything from a ROM then making a cab file to install it .
Roland
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
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this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
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Have you tried using Facade to use the HTC plugin with Bronze?
Roland
nope. i thought one has to BUY facade???
I know the background of the start menu can be changed by:
1) changing the phones wallpaper like normal
OR
2) replacing the startmenu_background_screen_"resolution".png from within the windows folder.
The second is only if you want a different wallpaper in your start menu to the rest of your phone. (the default file is just a transparent .png which shows your normal wallpaper underneath)
I know you can also change the folder icons, by changing around other png files in the window folder.
My question is how can you change the font style or more importantly the colour?
Also, is it possible to change it so it resembles the wm6.1 start menu instead of the honeycomb?
(please dont say "just use a 6.1 ROM" because i dont want to. lol. I like wm6.5 as its quicker and more finger friendly, i just want the old start menu back)
no one know how to do these things?
anyone?
PLEASE?
im desperate here
lolz
As much or as little as you wish.
Have a look at some of the stuff I posted in here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504320
Should answer a few of the basics.
Thanks for your reply, but those replies are about the today screen. I dont even use titanium any more. I find M2D more useful.
What i want to know is how to edit the Start menu.
the list of programs shown as hexagon icons
I want to change it to like how it was on wm6.1.
Just a grid of icons with words on a white background
OK, I have got what you are after... sounds like a registry hack somewhere....
Unfortunately the holiday(UK)/vacation(US), season is upon us, and I may not have found the solution for a week or two. If and when I do, I'll post it here and send you a PM.
Thank you.
Its appreciated
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Also, is it possible to change it so it resembles the wm6.1 start menu instead of the honeycomb?
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I second this question. And what I want is better not the 'grid view'.
Better we have a registry tweak way, so that we can make a HoneyComb Toggle.
In some cases when I want more RAM, it's better to shutdown the honeycomb and the titanium today plugin.
So another question is do we have a tool to toggle the titanium? Like we can do to M2D? I know we can do it through today settings, but I'm looking for a way like regitweak or mortscript, so that I can use a shortcut to map it to a hardware button, do it within one touch.
[Edit: Got some sence for the half of first question from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509160&highlight=start+menu
Seems the WM6.5 honeycomb start menu is an executable called shell32.exe. If so we can shut it down with a powerful task manager like DotFred's TaskMgr.exe or let it show up in the htc task manager by registry tweak and kill it. Will report it back after I test it next week. Or anybody can test it right now?
But the first question still need an answer.
Edit3: So what is the process or service of the WM6.1 start menu ? (for that I think it's not an exe) This may help to answer the question of how to resemble old start menu back.
And then what is titanium? An exe, a process or a service? Got a name?]
Thanks for any help.
there isnt!
there isnt a way to back to 6.1 start menu...
but you can use the Qucik menu that is a lil same... but you need to leave blank the cpr file for grid scene on your windows folder... then use the Quick menu that Utaker post on devs and hack forum just search with this exact words " Quickmenu instead honeycomb" you may get all the answer you need there... Oh and the honey comb can be modded in maaaany ways just search all over the devs a nd hack sections
thanks bye.
(Updated with a version that shows a little horizontal line on the taskbar. One can now easily move the "activation area". See attached image titled "v2".
This will work on all WM versions:
Note for WM 6.5.x users: the activation area can not be placed on the clock!
Note for WM 6.5 users: setting the offset of the first setting on the option/view tab to 393 will place the horizontal line above the battery)
Note: after installation you have to start Quickmenu manually (/Program Files/QMenu/Quickmenu.exe). Another option is to do a softreset (Quickmenu is set up to start automatically after a softreset.
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For users familiar with Nanlings Quickmenu (QM):
I've substituted the icons in quickmenu with transparant icons so you can place the "Q button" on the taskbar where ever you like. I've made a cab installation file that will also modify the registry entry for quickmenu in such a way that
a) the transparant Q-button is placed exactly on the battery icon of the WM 6.5.3 taskbar (setted the offset of the Q pic to 371). Very nice for one-handed operation with your right hand.
b) the running tasks are placed by default in the root of the QM-menu. This transforms QM basically in a sophisticated taskmanager. I like that more.
I thought is was wortwhile to share these modifications. Just check it out, maybe you like it.
For users not familiar with Quickmenu I like to refer to this thread There you can grab the unmodified program that will work on all WM version (including WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5)
And...
Instructions about how you can make this work on a rom with a different language can be found here. (Problem is that when you run the program on a rom with a different language code you then 0409, which is the code for WWE-roms, you get unreadable characters)
finally! can't express how thankfull I am!
Really great work! 10x appelflap! How is battery drain with it?
vlad48 said:
Really great work! 10x appelflap! How is battery drain with it?
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Don't know yet.
Works great on artemis-FR (just need to rename mui in programfiles and we have it in english)
BTW, is there more mui with Quickmenu to have it in our own language ?
Thanks a lot
thanks for the adjustments have not tried them yet but will. question though:
I've been using QM since I saw it in one of nrg28 ROMs. the version I downloaded (no clue where from) behaves differently:
- no action if I tap the battery button, other than notification bar showing
- QM is activated by pressing left-top on taskbar (where previous Start was, now typically black area)
- and, and this is the best part imho, it is activated by a short press on the Windows HW button no need to reprogram long press of Send or End button. brilliant!
to be honest, and definitely not want deminish your hard work, these are 3 pretty nice advantages. or am I missing something?
I don't use the Q icon (default disabled) because I couldn't see the point since the Start button/text disapeared. Battery drain is not noticable.
because of default short press on Windows hardware button feature, it is perfect for task SWITCHING. task manager is of course also directly accessible.
no complaints, great find and great mod.
Really coooool man thanx a lot
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thanks for the adjustments have not tried them yet but will. question though:
I've been using QM since I saw it in one of nrg28 ROMs. the version I downloaded (no clue where from) behaves differently:
- no action if I tap the battery button, other than notification bar showing
- QM is activated by pressing left-top on taskbar (where previous Start was, now typically black area)
- and, and this is the best part imho, it is activated by a short press on the Windows HW button no need to reprogram long press of Send or End button. brilliant!
to be honest, and definitely not want deminish your hard work, these are 3 pretty nice advantages. or am I missing something?
I don't use the Q icon (default disabled) because I couldn't see the point since the Start button/text disapeared. Battery drain is not noticable.
because of default short press on Windows hardware button feature, it is perfect for task SWITCHING. task manager is of course also directly accessible.
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You're right, without any modifications it is as beautiful as it is !
The only thing I did was to modify it for one-handed operation. I discoverd that almost everything I do is with the right tumb while holding my device in my hand. Because of this everything what is on left side of the screen is almost out of reach. (even the bottom startbutton. I have small hands, you see). That's why I created an activation field on the battery-meter by using a transparant Q-icon. Transparant, so you see the battery-icon.
Try it, you love it.
ric69 said:
Works great on artemis-FR (just need to rename mui in programfiles and we have it in english)
BTW, is there more mui with Quickmenu to have it in our own language ?
Thanks a lot
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According to this forum-member, who introduced me to this great app btw, you can change it to you language by just changing the code of mui files to the desired language code.
any working QuickMenu modification for WM 6.5.0 out there?
thx
@appelflap
Great work!
php-resource.de said:
any working QuickMenu modification for WM 6.5.0 out there?
thx
@appelflap
Great work!
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Yes, someone has made a finger-friendly setup for the HD2 along with some instructions of how to change the language. Look for it here
But you can try this version as well. It should give you an "activation field" somewhere around the battery icon. (don't know exactly where, but you can play with it, see first post). Very nice for one-handed operation.
by changing the mui files you wont change the language interface itself, simply only making it usable in non-wwe roms (all text will turn out as squares if you dont do this)
rbiez said:
by changing the mui files you wont change the language interface itself, simply only making it usable in non-wwe roms (all text will turn out as squares if you dont do this)
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Ai, my fault. Thanks for correcting me.
For those who want to get it working in their own language: you can edit
Code:
Program Files\Qmenu\QMenuCfg.dll.0409.mui
Program Files\Qmenu\QuickMenu.exe.0409.mui
with the tools from this thread.
(don't forget to change the language code afterwards)
Maybe it's a good idea to share these translated mui files. Post them in this thread and I will point to them in the first post.
don't work on my french rom hd2
I have a strange caracter in the menus
godsavenger said:
don't work on my french rom hd2
I have a strange caracter in the menus
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Try changing the code of these files:
Program Files\Qmenu\QMenuCfg.dll.0409.mui
Program Files\Qmenu\QuickMenu.exe.0409.mui
to
Program Files\Qmenu\QMenuCfg.dll.040C.mui
Program Files\Qmenu\QuickMenu.exe.040C.mui
(040C is the code for french .... i think
Does it work?
Thks
It's work fine !!! (in english now lol)
appelflap said:
Try it, you love it.
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You were right: tried it, LOVE it
TIP1: to make QuickMenu window pop-up by a single press of the Windows key (the part I think is great to use it as a Task switcher): open QuickMenu window / select Quickmenu / select Option... / select 4th checkbox Register win key of device
TIP2: if you, like me, prefer to activate Quickmenu from the left side of the screen (I have a hard time hitting the battery icon ): open QuickMenu window / select Quickmenu / select Option... / select second TAB on the bottom called View / deselect 1st checkbox open QuickMenu / (you can of course also change the offset value to something you like. default is 192, but then you get an invisible icon in the middle of the taskbar - also kind of hard to find )
tnx to Appelflap for a great mod!
i just made a shortcut, add a nice icon and add it to the first row of program shortcuts. no need to sharpen my finger, no useless complications with the top icons... and it works in all ROMs.! Simple! so, this not only for the "bottom buttons" ROMs
see pic
Great program
thanks bro
Hey Guys and Gals...
Just been messing with the sliders and settled on a grey bar across the top of the slider back ground..
I have a small problem with the alignment on the slider icons.
From what I can tell.. There are two bar icons one that is always present and one that appears as you scroll and changes to the tab that you are selecting.
The The top most is the one that changes as you slid across the bar. This one seems a little larger than the permanently visible.
Does any one know the manila files or a method to change so they are the same size or move the topmost down a couple of pixels.
Thanks
Neville
What did you use to change it? If your using HD Wall then I would say not that I know of since it does all the work for you. If you are using Mode9 or CFC_GUI then you can just edit the picture in photoshop.
I used manila editor to extract the PNG of the slider and changed that...
I'm ok with that part Hence the small grey line above the home icon...
I'm looking for a source that will tell how to change the slider foreground or background icons.
Any Idea?
Thanks
I´m not sure that i understand it right.
But you can use HDwall to create a slider. Put the images in HDwall convert and than you find the manila files in the HDwall programm folder. These you can copy to your Windows folder on your Device.
HDwall: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
Hope that is what you want.
Star... Thanks for bearing with me whilst my brain caught up with my hands....
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Star... Thanks for bearing with me whilst my brain caught up with my hands....
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I like what you're doing with the slider mate. It's always bugged me the way it is, and what you're doing looks really subtle. Are you planning on cabbing up the manila files when you're done?
johncmolyneux - I may be asking you to cab it
I've replaced the slider with the line above the icon. I – like you – hate the way the slider sits above the tabbar. However I’ve found that making the slider transparent shows that the two icons don’t sit over each other. This has always been a peeve for transparent slider frames.
So I’m now trying to find the foregrounds Icon and turn those transparent, so that it only looks as though there is one icon.
Whilst I’m there I was thinking of making the back ground icons transparent, so that you would only have current tab icon showing, one step at a time...
Thanks for the interest.. here is the slider if you want to try
Not zipped, just rename and remove the ".zip"
Neville
Backup Backup Backup
It's a simple alignment issue. I found the same issue when I made my sliders. I just use photo shop to make the current tab icon a bit bigger an move it ever so slightly over so that it full covers the lower icon. It's not hard just set the two images over one another in a layer to make sure it will cover it properly before uploading back into manila form.
Neville.Holland said:
Hey Guys and Gals...
Just been messing with the sliders and settled on a grey bar across the top of the slider back ground..
I have a small problem with the alignment on the slider icons.
From what I can tell.. There are two bar icons one that is always present and one that appears as you scroll and changes to the tab that you are selecting.
The The top most is the one that changes as you slid across the bar. This one seems a little larger than the permanently visible.
Does any one know the manila files or a method to change so they are the same size or move the topmost down a couple of pixels.
Thanks
Neville
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Please can I have Kelly's phone number?
How do you know it's not just a link to Kelly's web cam?!!!!
Wil Badger said:
It's a simple alignment issue. I found the same issue when I made my sliders. I just use photo shop to make the current tab icon a bit bigger an move it ever so slightly over so that it full covers the lower icon. It's not hard just set the two images over one another in a layer to make sure it will cover it properly before uploading back into manila form.
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Do you have any information, like what files sit where (foreground / background)?
thewahlrus said:
Please can I have Kelly's phone number?
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Not sure! I'll have to ask her?
Neville.Holland said:
Do you have any information, like what files sit where (foreground / background)?
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If your looking for a list of the manila names and exactly what they do I can't help you there. Depending on the ROM you could have 3 to 4 files that are associated with each tab. The slightly larger one is the foreground image while on the tab. The others are the static,highlighted,and tab selection on the settings page for tab order.
You can go through and change each one at a time till you figure it out or you can wait till somebody responds with the list you are looking for which I don't think will happen. Sorry........
I thought that may have been the case - Thanks anyway - Wanted to do something like this for an ages... will have to mark what the files do when I find them. I'm sure I saw a Wiki page but can't find it at the moment...
Managed to reduce the height on the selector of level one and two.
I know there is a list that will tell you what each manila goes to ie Home,MMS,Email,etc but it will not tell you what it does in relation to the tab as far as foreground,selected,static,etc...
KNows you where that is?
Hey all is there some software that will allow me to re-arrange my start menu items in a straight line
Atm the icons go diagonally in sets of 3`s
Im wondering if its possible to re-arrange the set of 3`s to be in a straight line without the diagonal look
Flame me for saying this...but along the same way the Iphone has them in a straight line
Did you just mention iPhone on the Topaz Forum?!?!?
**flicking lighter**
jk... This may work or you could try quick menu which gives you an expandable windows-like start menu in the top right corner.
or if your unable to find a list start menu cab you could find a start menu 4x4 grid cab and reverse engineer it.
Sorry Bruce My Bad.....Ive recovered from the burns now.
anyway that wasnt what i really had in mine so ive put together some shake and save screenies to give and idea.
The first one shows the way the layout of start menu icons are on my TD2 with it being in a diagonal / upsidedown triangle look
The second one shows how i would like the middle icons to be...in a straight line and together if possible
does any1 know if it can be done.Im assuming there has to be a way as GAz TD2 tools allows them all to be in a 4 row pattern but when i us that feature it makes scrolling really laggy
I split open a 4x4 start menu cab and it shows the following manila files that you would have to edit (LUA and Mode9 editing), however they may be different files for different builds.
07c67730_manila
3b8655d7_manila
5558cdef_manila
652ae0f4_manila
6c219600_manila
7c60907d_manila
In any case, it doesn't appear to be an easy fix. Sorry.
Some alternatives,
Take a look at the "Post your topaz screen" thread. I saw a user using an i*Cough* launcher app that was launched from a HW key that may interest you. You can also achieve something similar by using SecondToday combined with Ultimate Launcher. Then you can scoll your apps with the old Cube animation launching from your LSK.
Hope this helps.