(Updated with a version that shows a little horizontal line on the taskbar. One can now easily move the "activation area". See attached image titled "v2".
This will work on all WM versions:
Note for WM 6.5.x users: the activation area can not be placed on the clock!
Note for WM 6.5 users: setting the offset of the first setting on the option/view tab to 393 will place the horizontal line above the battery)
Note: after installation you have to start Quickmenu manually (/Program Files/QMenu/Quickmenu.exe). Another option is to do a softreset (Quickmenu is set up to start automatically after a softreset.
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For users familiar with Nanlings Quickmenu (QM):
I've substituted the icons in quickmenu with transparant icons so you can place the "Q button" on the taskbar where ever you like. I've made a cab installation file that will also modify the registry entry for quickmenu in such a way that
a) the transparant Q-button is placed exactly on the battery icon of the WM 6.5.3 taskbar (setted the offset of the Q pic to 371). Very nice for one-handed operation with your right hand.
b) the running tasks are placed by default in the root of the QM-menu. This transforms QM basically in a sophisticated taskmanager. I like that more.
I thought is was wortwhile to share these modifications. Just check it out, maybe you like it.
For users not familiar with Quickmenu I like to refer to this thread There you can grab the unmodified program that will work on all WM version (including WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5)
And...
Instructions about how you can make this work on a rom with a different language can be found here. (Problem is that when you run the program on a rom with a different language code you then 0409, which is the code for WWE-roms, you get unreadable characters)
finally! can't express how thankfull I am!
Really great work! 10x appelflap! How is battery drain with it?
vlad48 said:
Really great work! 10x appelflap! How is battery drain with it?
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Don't know yet.
Works great on artemis-FR (just need to rename mui in programfiles and we have it in english)
BTW, is there more mui with Quickmenu to have it in our own language ?
Thanks a lot
thanks for the adjustments have not tried them yet but will. question though:
I've been using QM since I saw it in one of nrg28 ROMs. the version I downloaded (no clue where from) behaves differently:
- no action if I tap the battery button, other than notification bar showing
- QM is activated by pressing left-top on taskbar (where previous Start was, now typically black area)
- and, and this is the best part imho, it is activated by a short press on the Windows HW button no need to reprogram long press of Send or End button. brilliant!
to be honest, and definitely not want deminish your hard work, these are 3 pretty nice advantages. or am I missing something?
I don't use the Q icon (default disabled) because I couldn't see the point since the Start button/text disapeared. Battery drain is not noticable.
because of default short press on Windows hardware button feature, it is perfect for task SWITCHING. task manager is of course also directly accessible.
no complaints, great find and great mod.
Really coooool man thanx a lot
dXsL said:
thanks for the adjustments have not tried them yet but will. question though:
I've been using QM since I saw it in one of nrg28 ROMs. the version I downloaded (no clue where from) behaves differently:
- no action if I tap the battery button, other than notification bar showing
- QM is activated by pressing left-top on taskbar (where previous Start was, now typically black area)
- and, and this is the best part imho, it is activated by a short press on the Windows HW button no need to reprogram long press of Send or End button. brilliant!
to be honest, and definitely not want deminish your hard work, these are 3 pretty nice advantages. or am I missing something?
I don't use the Q icon (default disabled) because I couldn't see the point since the Start button/text disapeared. Battery drain is not noticable.
because of default short press on Windows hardware button feature, it is perfect for task SWITCHING. task manager is of course also directly accessible.
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You're right, without any modifications it is as beautiful as it is !
The only thing I did was to modify it for one-handed operation. I discoverd that almost everything I do is with the right tumb while holding my device in my hand. Because of this everything what is on left side of the screen is almost out of reach. (even the bottom startbutton. I have small hands, you see). That's why I created an activation field on the battery-meter by using a transparant Q-icon. Transparant, so you see the battery-icon.
Try it, you love it.
ric69 said:
Works great on artemis-FR (just need to rename mui in programfiles and we have it in english)
BTW, is there more mui with Quickmenu to have it in our own language ?
Thanks a lot
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According to this forum-member, who introduced me to this great app btw, you can change it to you language by just changing the code of mui files to the desired language code.
any working QuickMenu modification for WM 6.5.0 out there?
thx
@appelflap
Great work!
php-resource.de said:
any working QuickMenu modification for WM 6.5.0 out there?
thx
@appelflap
Great work!
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Yes, someone has made a finger-friendly setup for the HD2 along with some instructions of how to change the language. Look for it here
But you can try this version as well. It should give you an "activation field" somewhere around the battery icon. (don't know exactly where, but you can play with it, see first post). Very nice for one-handed operation.
by changing the mui files you wont change the language interface itself, simply only making it usable in non-wwe roms (all text will turn out as squares if you dont do this)
rbiez said:
by changing the mui files you wont change the language interface itself, simply only making it usable in non-wwe roms (all text will turn out as squares if you dont do this)
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Ai, my fault. Thanks for correcting me.
For those who want to get it working in their own language: you can edit
Code:
Program Files\Qmenu\QMenuCfg.dll.0409.mui
Program Files\Qmenu\QuickMenu.exe.0409.mui
with the tools from this thread.
(don't forget to change the language code afterwards)
Maybe it's a good idea to share these translated mui files. Post them in this thread and I will point to them in the first post.
don't work on my french rom hd2
I have a strange caracter in the menus
godsavenger said:
don't work on my french rom hd2
I have a strange caracter in the menus
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Try changing the code of these files:
Program Files\Qmenu\QMenuCfg.dll.0409.mui
Program Files\Qmenu\QuickMenu.exe.0409.mui
to
Program Files\Qmenu\QMenuCfg.dll.040C.mui
Program Files\Qmenu\QuickMenu.exe.040C.mui
(040C is the code for french .... i think
Does it work?
Thks
It's work fine !!! (in english now lol)
appelflap said:
Try it, you love it.
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You were right: tried it, LOVE it
TIP1: to make QuickMenu window pop-up by a single press of the Windows key (the part I think is great to use it as a Task switcher): open QuickMenu window / select Quickmenu / select Option... / select 4th checkbox Register win key of device
TIP2: if you, like me, prefer to activate Quickmenu from the left side of the screen (I have a hard time hitting the battery icon ): open QuickMenu window / select Quickmenu / select Option... / select second TAB on the bottom called View / deselect 1st checkbox open QuickMenu / (you can of course also change the offset value to something you like. default is 192, but then you get an invisible icon in the middle of the taskbar - also kind of hard to find )
tnx to Appelflap for a great mod!
i just made a shortcut, add a nice icon and add it to the first row of program shortcuts. no need to sharpen my finger, no useless complications with the top icons... and it works in all ROMs.! Simple! so, this not only for the "bottom buttons" ROMs
see pic
Great program
thanks bro
Related
Due to the many request:
wizard reTOUCHed FINAL
[size=+2]FINAL[/size]
There will be no more updates on this 5.2.1413 ROM, My goal is achieved: packages are ready to use in other kitchens.
-HTC Camera
-Pocket MSN
-esmertec Java
-battery status
-pocket RAR/ZIP
-registry editor, taskmanager
-Total Commander
And of course all the TOUCH files
The Cube is invoked by the voicedial button.
-Slide Finger UP the first time to invoke
-Slide finger up in order to hide
-slide finger from side to side, the next time you want to invoke.
The known bug(s):
-OK/X button
FIX: use the re-alignment settings as shown in this post)
Or you could try the reg file in touch.zip attached in this post
-No mms
FIX: use the Asukal mms cab from here to install MMS features. (don't install the pocket MSN, it's already integrated)
-No icon for zip-file
FIX: install the reg in the zipicon.zip archive.
-while editing today screen, it could freeze up.
FIX: install the reg in today-set-freeze-fix.zip
-`Maybe a bug': Bluetooth headsets fail with some users, they do pair, but don't function! Others report it being fully functional.
Not a bug, but a feature: there are only Dutch and Belgium city's available in the today-weather app.
Replace the HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml with your own..
[size=+2]NEWER OEM Packages used for the Build of Beta V2b[/size]
Here are the OEM Packages For Touchflo.
Note:
---> in order to use the packages, you will need to delete some files and modules from the Kitchen <---
--->So this is NOT plug and play<---
Use duplicate file finder (freeware) and add some extra filters for mui, lnk and dat.
Then you still have to remove the modules.
The OEMAPPS package still contain files not belonging there, so some could be moved to a new package, however, it's sanitized the best I could (regarding the time I've had)
I have tested these packages only as a complete unit, not the separate packages!
-So the problem could occur that a stand-alone package would not work.
DOWNLOAD THE NEW V2B PACKAGES HERE
[size=+2]FIX YOUR BUTTONS WITH THE FOLLOWING SCREEN ALIGNMENT:[/size]
Alling your touchscreen as shown in attached image.
This will fix all of the button problems.
Or you could try the touch.reg in the touch.zip (these are my alignment settings, could work, could fail, if it fails retry aligning according my instructions)
wow, i almost fell outta my chair when i saw this!
downloading now, will flash later
thanks
awesome, just downloaded it..... going to flash it now. wewt!
This is why XDA pwns...
why can't i invoke the cube?
davefan242 said:
why can't i invoke the cube?
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verify under settings/buttons that button 4 is set for the cube function.
Once you press button 4, release it, then slide your finger from left to right.
Once it starts rotating screens, to exit back to the "home" page, go from bottom to top.
I haven't tried the rom directly, but this was the function in the French rom.
would this work for hermes too?
leoiden said:
would this work for hermes too?
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It's a wizard rom...
mattk_r said:
verify under settings/buttons that button 4 is set for the cube function.
Once you press button 4, release it, then slide your finger from left to right.
Once it starts rotating screens, to exit back to the "home" page, go from bottom to top.
I haven't tried the rom directly, but this was the function in the French rom.
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the splash screen's nice, but after i flashed the first time, button 4 was empty and it wasn't in the button settings' drop down menu.
after second flash, it works and it's SOOOO COOOL! i didn't go to the button settings thing at all for fear of it being empty again and then me pressing ok and then losing it forever like the first time i flashed.
lots of fun to try, thanks!
edit:
i went to button settings again and lost it once again. i clicked buttons (in settings), saw that button 4 was empty (after cube had just worked) and had to press ok to get out of it and now i can't find it (nor use it). other than that, it's cool.
Hi Dave,
what does that rom include? only the cube part what about the flicker browsing?. . .hehehe that's what i wanna have in my wizard.
hope the community can work on this . . . no doubt in that!
davefan242 said:
the splash screen's nice, but after i flashed the first time, button 4 was empty and it wasn't in the button settings' drop down menu.
after second flash, it works and it's SOOOO COOOL! i didn't go to the button settings thing at all for fear of it being empty again and then me pressing ok and then losing it forever like the first time i flashed.
lots of fun to try, thanks!
edit:
i went to button settings again and lost it once again. i can't find it. other than that, it's cool.
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so the action of going to settings-buttons removes the entry? Hmmm... I wonder, even though the registry is specifying the application for the button when it's opened, when the button control is invoked - it doesn't match to a predefined list and thus removes it. Once it's open, it has overwritten the registry... just thinking out loud...
yep, you got it. meanwhile (after flash #3 in the past hour), i'm going to have fun with this and not even think about touching the "buttons" icon in settings until someone who knows how to deal with it can fix it.
i haven't been looking but the only french of the today screen is the htc audio plugin when it displays the "tap here to play songs.." or something.
davefan242 said:
yep, you got it. meanwhile (after flash #3 in the past hour), i'm going to have fun with this and not even think about touching the "buttons" icon in settings until someone who knows how to deal with it can fix it.
i haven't been looking but the only french of the today screen is the htc audio plugin when it displays the "tap here to play songs.." or something.
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if you see any others, can you post them? It'd help narrow down where the last of the "translation" is needed. (sarcastic jokes ommitted )
ok, the keyboard is not qwerty. i must flash to something else for now. that cube rocks though.
edit: whatever, i can handle azerty for a day if i can mess with the cube...
i love it but the only prob is that my keyboard imput is kinda messed ie if i hit the "w" key it makes a z and vice verca lol can anyone tell me how to fix this?
or is there a keyborad cab file??
no start menu clicks
can't set any homepage in pie (after i say, use current and then click ok, it's still blank; when i click "home" it goes to nothing).
edge works
wifi works
orb works
ok, i'm going to flash to something else now. thanks.
Hi guys and galls,
Have been working on OEM packages, in order to use these things in other kitchens/ROM's.
So a touchflo rom will be possible from a kitchen of your choice.
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
The azerty keyboard is a pain, I know.
But I will be able to import my packages to a clean, WWE kitchen, so a lot of junk will be lost.
@ davefan, only 3 times?
Must be a fluke, I didn't have that problem.
I have flashed so often this weekend I lost count, have switched batteries a lot of times (thank god for the desktop turbo charger). Also glad I had a sd backup, because at a given time the phone was protesting a lot, didn't even wanted to be flashed in bootloader..
man, you don't sleep to much, don't you
needless to say how much your work is appreciated...
rgs,
pirlone
thanks for great efforts
testing just to have a look
about the cleartype enabling:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\CLEARTYPE]
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my windows live wont let me sign on because i "dont have an internet connection" but my wifi is connected. and i dont have data just wifi can anyone help me here? or tell me how to un-install it??
Hi,
I'm currently using your latest rom, and its great in terms of stability and overall features it contains. I had a small request which i thought i'd post, and decided to make a separate thread so that ppl can drop all their requests too, so here goes!
And now for my request -
It would be great if you could add PQz II into the default rom. Its a small app to enable control/alt key combos with a lot of other features for phone shortcuts, button shortcuts etc. Its freeware too! You can find it at www.nicque.com/pqz
if you could make the following customizations so that pqz starts this way by default, thats an added bonus -
1. Has the path to the "icon" bitmap (by default, its just a white blotch until you specify an icon in the default installation. the icon comes within the package though)
2. Set default keys to the SYM key for control and alt.
3. Make PQz start at windows bootup by default by adding a link in the registry
Cheers and I appreciate the great work!
San
PQZ
Hi,
I will see what it does and try today
Cheers,
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
I will see what it does and try today
Cheers,
Leo
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Nice.
I tried it already because sometimes I miss ctrl and alt.
Cheers
Hi,
Which keys do you set for ctrl and alt, cause they aren't on keyboard?
Fn + Tab maybe?
Also how to set a icon for the today I don't know?
Can the icon in upper tray moved to bottum tray?
2 many questions haha...
Cheers,
Leo
ultravox said:
Nice.
I tried it already because sometimes I miss ctrl and alt.
Cheers
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
Which keys do you set for ctrl and alt, cause they aren't on keyboard?
Fn + Tab maybe?
Also how to set a icon for the today I don't know?
Can the icon in upper tray moved to bottum tray?
2 many questions haha...
Cheers,
Leo
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He he, nice questions.
I tried the app but quited after some minutes because I couldn't find a way to get it working, lol
Nevertheless if working, it could be a good improvement.
Luis
with all do respect, PQz suck.
it really messes up the keyboard control for other programs, such as games for example...
if you really need it, install it. it only takes a couple of seconds and a couple of lousy KBs, if i remember correctly.
Rom devs can't include apps everytime users have a spacial request. That's what kitchens are for...
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
Which keys do you set for ctrl and alt, cause they aren't on keyboard?
Fn + Tab maybe?
Also how to set a icon for the today I don't know?
Can the icon in upper tray moved to bottum tray?
2 many questions haha...
Cheers,
Leo
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Normally, we set the "SYM" key for both Control & alt. This way, you press sym once, its control (shows on the icon, once set!), press it again it becomes alt. Its soooooo useful, i cant tell you.....you must try it!
i use it extensively, to do control+c, cntrl+v, blah!
The icon should be on top, so that it shows what you've pressed (control or alt).
The cooler part is the other sub-modules it has such as phone shortcuts, app shortcuts, system shortcuts etc. For example, i can set shortcuts such as alt+Alphabet for speed dials for all my contacts. No matter what application you're currently using, just hit Alt+S to dial a contact for instance, or even fire an application!
I also use, Alt+X to close current app, alt+0 to close all apps....really useful!
Try it out for a while, you cant live without it!
Cheers!
San
Can you add these files to Windows\ directory?
If you could add these to \Windows directory, it would be great! It changes the basic "Open/select file" dialog to browse through folders in a standard windows way rather than scanning through all folders and showing it as one single list!
It overrides this dialog at all places. For instance, when you try and add an attachment to your email, it shows standard folders for you to navigate and pick the right file, rather than making one giant list of all files on all folders!
San
EDIT: There's a small bug in wm6, the softkey labels are not shown though (not a big deal as long as you know what they are!) . The left softkey is "Up" one folder, and right softkey is for "Menu" when the open file dialog is active. Make sure you activate it under Settings->System->FileDialog and check the option in there!
shlomki said:
with all do respect, PQz suck.
it really messes up the keyboard control for other programs, such as games for example...
if you really need it, install it. it only takes a couple of seconds and a couple of lousy KBs, if i remember correctly.
Rom devs can't include apps everytime users have a spacial request. That's what kitchens are for...
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thanks mr.arrogant. i feel much wiser now!
PQZ
Hi San,
I will have another look and tell you what I think of it later.
Greetings,
Leo
how about the ability to call the last dialled number? can that be added? and maybe not including the latest task manager 2.0 as that has problems with the closing of apps.... maybe the earlier version 1.5?
PQZ
Well... I tested a bit.
But it does screw up other functionings.
Also the today icon I don't like, I only see a white square in top bar
Did you try HandyMenu or AEButton, they have same function's but much easier. For copy\paste I use Pnotepad.
Sorry...
Regards,
Leo
rnzk8 said:
how about the ability to call the last dialled number? can that be added? and maybe not including the latest task manager 2.0 as that has problems with the closing of apps.... maybe the earlier version 1.5?
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ooops sorry... asked to early.... hehe!
The WiFi problems are fixed now!
Can you pleeeease solve the Bluetooth Stereo problems ASAP.
I think I already flash my Universal with all existing ROMs, but I believe none as A2DP and WiFi WPA fully working.
can i suggest to try rlToday? It's a very nice Home/today plugin. Working with VGA and completely skinnable.
I have searched the whole xda forum but couldn't find a solution to remove the crappy new notification manager on my TD2. This is so useless,why a Notification Manager will pop up when I click the Battery or volume or network icon,it should show the details of every icon separately.I just want the OLD notification manager and I am sure I am not the only person who wish to have the Old one. So guys please tell me some positives,will look forward to your inputs.
Thanks in advance.
ya, i need it too
Yes, that was the first thing that struck me too!
I went and disabled that crappy notification manager completely. I now get the WM 6.1 bubbles.
.
Actually.. my issue with the new notification manager is the speed.
I want instant access to these.. not requiring me to wait abt 1-2secs.
the diamond1 screen was simple and basically had enlarged icons only.. but that was instant. Does anyone know if we can use the D1 notification manager on our D2?
TinTin said:
Yes, that was the first thing that struck me too!
I went and disabled that crappy notification manager completely. I now get the WM 6.1 bubbles.
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How did you do that?
I already wrote about it on my blog (in german) at
http://mytd2.blogspot.com/2009/06/unnutzer-benachrichtigungsmanager.html
about it, google translates it to:
http://www.translate.google.de/tran...nager.html&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1
Not a very good translation lol - might post things here shortly, but you should get what it's about.
TinTin said:
I already wrote about it on my blog (in german) at
http://mytd2.blogspot.com/2009/06/unnutzer-benachrichtigungsmanager.html
about it, google translates it to:
http://www.translate.google.de/tran...nager.html&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1
Not a very good translation lol - might post things here shortly, but you should get what it's about.
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Hm,but didn't understand the last two .cabs. There are two cabs,why are they there? If I install the 'NoNotification' cab will it work? or it's a must to install TaskManager 3.1 and Registry Editor?
CABs that only have registry tweaks in them don't appear as "programs" so they can't get uninstalled that way. That's why I put 2 CABs, one to make the change, one to revert it.
NoNotification.CAB will deactivate the notification manager (soft reset required)
Notifcation.CAB will activate it again, in case you don't like the changes it brings
No need to install FDCSoft's TaskManager or a Registry Editor, those are both alternative ways to the CAB installation.
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TinTin said:
CABs that only have registry tweaks in them don't appear as "programs" so they can't get uninstalled that way. That's why I put 2 CABs, one to make the change, one to revert it.
NoNotification.CAB will deactivate the notification manager (soft reset required)
Notifcation.CAB will activate it again, in case you don't like the changes it brings
No need to install FDCSoft's TaskManager or a Registry Editor, those are both alternative ways to the CAB installation.
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Thanks a lot,that cab did work great.
Hi,
I agree that the Topaz Notification Manager is quite useless..but did anyone try the Enhanced Notification Manager?It's functional, without going back to old notification systems. Because finger tapping the icon you want has become very difficult (e.g I have a modded task bar with tiny icons), you still get the entire list of ongoing notifications, but each of them is clickable and redirects to the relative settings.I'm happy with it .
Greetz
You can find Topaz Tweak Software here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502102 , with it is possible turn off and on Enhanced Notification.
Does Enhanced Notification Manager works with MS Shell 3.0?
Cos I disable the TF3D and runing MS shell 3.0
sualc said:
e.g I have a modded task bar with tiny icons
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How did you get the small task bar icons? Would it work, or do you know how, to change the keyboard (SIP) button size - the button has a large tap area which prevents me from tapping the toolbar buttons in some programs - it seems to overlap the other buttons so when I tap them only the keyboard pops up!!
good info here!
TinTin said:
I already wrote about it on my blog (in german) at
http://mytd2.blogspot.com/2009/06/unnutzer-benachrichtigungsmanager.html
about it, google translates it to:
http://www.translate.google.de/tran...nager.html&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1
Not a very good translation lol - might post things here shortly, but you should get what it's about.
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Thanks TinTin - excellent tweak. It worked for me. I used MemMaid instead for Option 1.
I know the background of the start menu can be changed by:
1) changing the phones wallpaper like normal
OR
2) replacing the startmenu_background_screen_"resolution".png from within the windows folder.
The second is only if you want a different wallpaper in your start menu to the rest of your phone. (the default file is just a transparent .png which shows your normal wallpaper underneath)
I know you can also change the folder icons, by changing around other png files in the window folder.
My question is how can you change the font style or more importantly the colour?
Also, is it possible to change it so it resembles the wm6.1 start menu instead of the honeycomb?
(please dont say "just use a 6.1 ROM" because i dont want to. lol. I like wm6.5 as its quicker and more finger friendly, i just want the old start menu back)
no one know how to do these things?
anyone?
PLEASE?
im desperate here
lolz
As much or as little as you wish.
Have a look at some of the stuff I posted in here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504320
Should answer a few of the basics.
Thanks for your reply, but those replies are about the today screen. I dont even use titanium any more. I find M2D more useful.
What i want to know is how to edit the Start menu.
the list of programs shown as hexagon icons
I want to change it to like how it was on wm6.1.
Just a grid of icons with words on a white background
OK, I have got what you are after... sounds like a registry hack somewhere....
Unfortunately the holiday(UK)/vacation(US), season is upon us, and I may not have found the solution for a week or two. If and when I do, I'll post it here and send you a PM.
Thank you.
Its appreciated
cris_rowlands said:
Also, is it possible to change it so it resembles the wm6.1 start menu instead of the honeycomb?
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I second this question. And what I want is better not the 'grid view'.
Better we have a registry tweak way, so that we can make a HoneyComb Toggle.
In some cases when I want more RAM, it's better to shutdown the honeycomb and the titanium today plugin.
So another question is do we have a tool to toggle the titanium? Like we can do to M2D? I know we can do it through today settings, but I'm looking for a way like regitweak or mortscript, so that I can use a shortcut to map it to a hardware button, do it within one touch.
[Edit: Got some sence for the half of first question from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509160&highlight=start+menu
Seems the WM6.5 honeycomb start menu is an executable called shell32.exe. If so we can shut it down with a powerful task manager like DotFred's TaskMgr.exe or let it show up in the htc task manager by registry tweak and kill it. Will report it back after I test it next week. Or anybody can test it right now?
But the first question still need an answer.
Edit3: So what is the process or service of the WM6.1 start menu ? (for that I think it's not an exe) This may help to answer the question of how to resemble old start menu back.
And then what is titanium? An exe, a process or a service? Got a name?]
Thanks for any help.
there isnt!
there isnt a way to back to 6.1 start menu...
but you can use the Qucik menu that is a lil same... but you need to leave blank the cpr file for grid scene on your windows folder... then use the Quick menu that Utaker post on devs and hack forum just search with this exact words " Quickmenu instead honeycomb" you may get all the answer you need there... Oh and the honey comb can be modded in maaaany ways just search all over the devs a nd hack sections
thanks bye.
Hello, guys!
You all are professionals and know almost everything about different versions of WM. I have one very important question: is there at least minimal possibility to port somehow this WM 6.5.5 feature - bottom start button to the old WM 6.1 firmwares?
Thank you very much in advance and sorry if this question is a foolish one
It's sort-of possible but would take a little work. Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).
Thanks for the answer!
littld said:
It's sort-of possible but would take a little work.
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I even can't imagine how it could be implemented... Don't you know if there already was some work for achieving it?
littld said:
Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
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Because it seems more slow to me. Official WM6.1 is very fast and simple as I see, faster than 6.5. I've tried a lot of 6.5 builds. But what I really miss in WM6.1 - is this bottom start button. If it be there - it would be the best firmware for all people like me, who like simplicity and usability instead of these huge slow animations and pictures.
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I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).
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Yeah, it's useful too. Would be nice if somebody experienced considered this interesting and made some investigation...
it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
It's no problem to launch the start menu. But changing the bottom bar is a *****! You could just overwrite the paint method as well. But this is not the full truth. The problem here is that every window got it's own bottom bar. So first you'd have to go through list of all windows/processes, retrieve it's menu bar and from there finally replace the window proc. Then you need to watch out and terminate your window proc if the application closes. And of course you also need to know if a new program is starting up. A nice-to-have feature of this solution would be that you can explicitely tell what happens when you hit the X button (hide or close) and don't need another hack for it.
Thanks a lot for your explanation, RAMMANN. It's very clear.
I can't do it by myself due to lack of experience. Well, the thing left is to wait if somebody experienced wants the same
Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm
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Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm
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Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
I think a decent compromise would be to set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs. If you install one of the start menu replacements (Green software) you can overwrite the start icon with something blank.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!
littld, thanks for your answer too.
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set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs.
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Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!
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Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!
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Well I didn't give up yet. I didn't even start dev for it. I just coded few lines to print something like "Hey your bottom bar is hacked!" in the Manila and start menu bottom bars. This is a very interesting project and has potential to allow a lot of things like Photon style or even an Android style bottom bar and I mean not only a standalone app like Androkkid but a full system replacement. I'm still looking around for an efficient way to realize this project and first things first so I'll be doing a start menu enhancement to warm up
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littld, thanks for your answer too.
Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!
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I don't have the links but you can search. You want an app called VJKeypress - one of the keypresses will launch the start menu for you. Make a shortcut (.lnk file) for it. Search for how to change the left softkey text and program (somewhere in registry) to the new VJ link.
Thanks for your answers, guys.
RAMMANN, when you have some progress on this project, please, update this thread. I think people would appreciate it.
Thanks again!
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it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
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I know this is an old post i dug up here, but i was wondering how i would go about earasing the start menu link from the top? i'm using 6.5 and i want to totaly dissable the top start soft key. thank you