Has anyone actually found the projector for sale anywhere?
Got mine for $180 by calling AT&T. Works great, although a fine adjust for the focus would be better than trying to move the slider microns...
Also would like to find an app that would allow manual over-ride of processor speed change, to maintain constant fps quality for movies...
Also recommend BlueAnt M1 bluetooth speakers for viewing movies with good sound while charging the phone.
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Wait what? I thought that actually _came_ with the device!
(Then again, I also thought my HD2 would come with a capacitive stylus)
dennistaylor said:
Got mine for $180 by calling AT&T. Works great, although a fine adjust for the focus would be better than trying to move the slider microns...
Also would like to find an app that would allow manual over-ride of processor speed change, to maintain constant fps quality for movies...
Also recommend BlueAnt M1 bluetooth speakers for viewing movies with good sound while charging the phone.
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What are u using to view ur movies? there is a version of CorePlayer out there that is gfx accelerated that ive gotten to play 720p video's on at full speed...
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Wait what? I thought that actually _came_ with the device!
(Then again, I also thought my HD2 would come with a capacitive stylus)
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nope , at least mine didnt xD course that could be bc i got mine for like $50 :\
but chain i did find ur capacitive stylus
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I use TCPMP Youtube Stroths version or Coreplayer 1.3.0 Build 6213.
With Coreplayer, I keep it set for Raw Frame Buffer with High Quality.
All my videos get converted to 100% quality .avi and keep the original video size. Some of my benchmarks are in the 300% range, although on battery I usually have some dropped frames and charging no dropped frames.
HTC G-Sensor Patch(thanks chainfire) working/now working list
Look for the version of CorePlayer ripped from the acer s200, i think its version 1.3.2 and make sure rendering is done by gdi.
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(Then again, I also thought my HD2 would come with a capacitive stylus)
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how did you get your em one?
Somebody from Japan sent it to me.
So has anyone found a source for the projector Stateside. AT&T is still out of stock.
Thanks
Eric
I guess AT&T is funny about these things....
I ordered my about 2 weeks ago, got it in 3 days!!
Stuart
scl_electronics said:
I guess AT&T is funny about these things....
I ordered my about 2 weeks ago, got it in 3 days!!
Stuart
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more about supply, if they got them they sell them, if htey dont...they dont...that simple.
i trust u they wont deny ur money
scl_electronics said:
I guess AT&T is funny about these things....
I ordered my about 2 weeks ago, got it in 3 days!!
Stuart
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is it any good?
Projector
I got mine right after valentine's day and I share it with my wife, at the moment i use nero 9 recode and use the ipod setting to convert videos to 480x800 resolution and they look flawless even at 100"!
Is this projector compatible with LG IQ? Does AT&T sell this to non AT&T customers?
scl_electronics said:
I guess AT&T is funny about these things....
I ordered my about 2 weeks ago, got it in 3 days!!
Stuart
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Well the AT&T Business web site is showing the Projector in stock again. I just ordered mine and hope to have it here this weekend. I'll post and let everyone know if they fullfill the order on time.
Later
Eric
how long does the battery last while using the projector?
Battery Life is pretty Good. I was playing with the projector for a couple of hours. before I had to throw it back on the charger. I haven't tried a constant run yet to see how long it takes to kill it from full charge to dead.
I'll try and do that this week and let you know.
Oh By the Way. I ordered the Projector on Thursday. Paid and extra $18 and had it by 11:00am on Friday. So AT&T does have them in stock and are fullfilling orders on time.
Later
E
Battery life {constant projector}
I tested the projector life while watching Sherlock Holmes. Its right at about two hours. I was using MP4 at a resolution of 480x272 30 fps and total bitrate of 450 kbps. It played flawlessly, and looked pretty decent. Infrared thermometer showed the device got up to about 52 degrees C at the hottest surface, which was the back of the projector that was sitting on my desk while watching. Battery started at 100% and I had to shut the projector off and charge the phone just as the credits came up. Looks like two hours is pushing it, considering I took the phone off the charger and immediately started the movie.
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Hi all,
I just picked up my Touch Cruise from ezshop.gr – the online shop of ACE-Hellas – distributor of HTC in Greece.
Yes Cruise is available in limited quantities as they say and you can see the photos as proof.
It seems that Cruise belongs to Greece as ACE-Hellas announced it in public 3 days before HTC officially announced it to the press, in the local DTE exhibition show.
Now
The first Photos of the HTC Cruise in Europe only for XDA users
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Marry Xmas ..Santa Comes today !!
still no sign of it in the UK.
english santa sux0rs
more photos soon
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still no sign of it in the UK.
english santa sux0rs
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Fresh News from ezshop.gr !!
Cruise sold out already !!
Mastelos & MinOtaVrS Cruise together !!
Nice, can you provide details on what's in the box? MobilePlant/Expansys doesn't say.
If I look correctly, is the screen black?
There have been a lot of doubts about the screen, if they only have a "silver" version or also the "black" version:
<-- the black version
<-- the silver version
Is this really a difference, or is it just the light?
And how does the screen reflect? Is it too much?
in the box there ac/dc socket, usb cable, ear phones, stylus,protection sheath,cd manual.
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in the box there ac/dc socket, usb cable, ear phones, stylus,protection sheath,cd manual.
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Wow you are so lucky. Can you please post more pictures if you have time?
Thanks,
turcomora
turcomora said:
Wow you are so lucky. Can you please post more pictures if you have time?
Thanks,
turcomora
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Ok bro..
Compare With Artemis
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Ok bro..
Compare With Artemis
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Thanks man. Look great. Enjoy your new device.
Awesome. They make quite a pair. Both sharp looking devices. Looks like you might be able to tell us if accessories are compatible too.
One HUGE question I think everyone is wanting feedback on is video playback. Since you have an Artemis, this should also be a good comparison. Do you use the Artemis for Vids? If so, what codecs and rates do you use, and does the Polaris do a better or worse job with the same file encoding(s). I think there is a suspician that the Polaris will be similar to the Kaiser (since it uses the same chipset) and the video playback will be poor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986
This will likely be a make or break issue for me, so any advice would be very welcome.
You have any Artemis cradles or holders? If so does it fit?
Yes the assessories of Artemis are FULL compatible with Polaris we have a brando Car holder and fits exactly..
The first impressions of vids are Perfect, Artemis lag not appears with Polaris we continue the tests and we inform u, The tube also is too fast no cracking like Artemis.
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Yes the assessories of Artemis are FULL compatible with Polaris we have a brando Car holder and fits exactly..
The first impressions of vids are Perfect, Artemis lag not appears with Polaris we continue the tests and we inform u, The tube also is too fast no cracking like Artemis.
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Sweet! Specifics on file encodings would be very helpful and enlightening.
Apparently the issue also affects game play. Not much for games on myself, but I know many others are very interested.
Awesome! I love the black colour that ya got. I wonder if they come in white as well.
Do let us know if you happen to try out stereo BT, and to see whether the music skips while playing high quality stereo. Most PPCs sucked in that...
Thanks!
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Awesome! I love the black colour that ya got. I wonder if they come in white as well.
Do let us know if you happen to try out stereo BT, and to see whether the music skips while playing high quality stereo. Most PPCs sucked in that...
Thanks!
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I don't have Stereo BT yet ..
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Sweet! Specifics on file encodings would be very helpful and enlightening.
Apparently the issue also affects game play. Not much for games on myself, but I know many others are very interested.
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Upload to rapidshare an already testing by u vid to test with polaris And off course describe the problem to see if it happens
the tests is with the original rom plus greek custom rom from ACE HELLAS
E-Ten have kindly loaned me a Glofiish V900 review device which isn't due out just yet, and I thought other members may want to know more about it, please see my quick hands on review on our site 4winmobile.com here .
It comes with digital TV, FM tuner, FM transmitter, Sirf Star III GPS built in and much more.
Holy moly...
What hasn't it got... hmmm... nothing...
wicked, And I bet it's got a wicked price to match lol
Preview V900 Glofiish
Preview on LePocketPc.com in french
with many pictures in the gallery
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Holy moly...
What hasn't it got... hmmm... nothing...
wicked, And I bet it's got a wicked price to match lol
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Prices have yet to be announced, but should be competitive as E-Ten devices usually are.
Excellent stuff boz also a great review!
This will be my next phone as soon as it comes out...
Can you please tell me how good the DAB radio is?
Any idea on a release date?
Thanks!
The dab radio is part of Freeview in the UK, so all the radio stations for your region should be available and in digital stereo. Don't forget it has an FM radio also.
EDIT:- Sorry the release date should be around the end of September-ish!
Many thanks for the reply boz!
How is the camera, is it any better then Kaiser?
I look forward to its release... time to put my Kaiser on sale.
The camera is FAR superior to the Kaisers, and even has a flash. Overall, it's a far superior device, and is much much faster; but it still has a few quirks that will need sorting before they ship it to market.
The GPS is WAY more sensitive than the Kaisers' too, and even got a lock when I was in a jet last week! 37,500 feet up, 499mph! The Kaiser couldn't get a lock. TomTom does odd stuff at that speed.
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The camera is FAR superior to the Kaisers, and even has a flash. Overall, it's a far superior device, and is much much faster; but it still has a few quirks that will need sorting before they ship it to market.
The GPS is WAY more sensitive than the Kaisers' too, and even got a lock when I was in a jet last week! 37,500 feet up, 499mph! The Kaiser couldn't get a lock. TomTom does odd stuff at that speed.
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Amazing! This is making me even more eager to get my hands on this device.
Any chance of capture shot?
Thanks for the answers.
Sure, here's one I took whilst doing about 20mph in a speed boat.
It took the image a LOT faster than the Kaiser does, and with no smearing at all. Probably about the best you can expect to get from a cameraphone, to be honest.
It's only slightly let down by not being able to control the compression ration of the resulting jpg files. A RAW file mode would be better.
FloatingFatMan,
That picture does look many times better then any I have ever taken with my Kaiser..
Also, the site below claims to have 32 V900's in stock for sale when we know it's not even released yet?
Do you think it's a scam?
Thanks
http://gadgetboxlimited.shopmania.biz/product.html?c=2616&p=37696
Very probably a scam, yes. I've mailed it to E-Ten just in case.
As for the camera, with the addition of the flash, it's way better than the Kaisers. It's still not perfect, and I've made a few suggestions for changes to the camera application; but it's better that what I get on my Kaiser (especially as mine has a fault and I get those 2 blue horizontal and vertical lines now ).
Once they work a few more kinks out of the review model, it'll be ready for prime time. It's a really nice phone, and remarkably light too, but don't expect it to be as amazing as something like the Omnia is.
I'm working on writing up a full review which I hope to have done soon. I've been pretty sick since getting back from vacation, my tonsils are the size of Polaris missiles right now and I'm running a fever too, but I'll finish it as soon as I can.
Thanks for that.
Can't wait for your review FloatingFatMan.
I'm not a big fan of Omnia and will never buy it. V900 offers features I really want and I also like the foam factor. I nearly brought Gigabyte T600 until this was unvailed.
I hope you get well soon!
P.S. are you in UK?
The camera is impressive I must say, I took this pic today when out riding, and it was taken on a cloudy day under trees in dappled light!
WOW! That is impressive!!
Is there any place I can buy the V900 from at all??
This site is selling some but I have a feeling they are doggy, can anyone verify if they are authentic?
http://gadgetboxlimited.shopmania.bi...c=2616&p=37696
Regards!
Yes I have seen that site but it will be a scam, and as previously mentioned the info has been passed onto E-Ten who have confirmed that no V900's have yet been officially released.
I am afraid you will have to wait for it's release in around a month from now.
Thanks boz!
I guess I will have to make do with any reviews and pictures until its released.
btw, unless I am mistaken - Gigabyte t600 (Digital TV phone) it had a function to record from TV, does the V900 have a recording function too?
With your hands on experience so far - what would you say that you are less pleased with about the v900?
Thanks
Well, it has a tendency to grow pretty warm when charging.... That's something they're working on at the moment. The father flimsy battery cover just passes heat like it's not even there.
i see the thing has FM radio with RDS, does it support TMC?
gonna get the phone once it is out, no more missing my shows due to night classes, im gonna watch them in class!
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Well, it has a tendency to grow pretty warm when charging.... That's something they're working on at the moment. The father flimsy battery cover just passes heat like it's not even there.
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Better that than to trap it inside.
In this link
http://www.samsungmobile.com.sg/news-events/pressReleasesView.do?pressNo=3862&targetPage=
Samsung have declared that galaxy S does have a TV-OUT but i still haven't seen the TV-OUT port yet also i still haven't read that it comes with a TV-OUT cable so does anybody know if it really has a TV-OUT and how it exactly work ?
Look it in the manual, the Galaxy S does have TV Out through the 3.5mm audio jack. My old Nokia N95 also had this, although never used it. The downside is that just ouputs standard definition, so no 720p
i interested to know as was planning to use that to output to the car 2din player and display the gps on there. so far i tried the demo, there is a TV out setting that lets you choose NTSC and PAL. i think the cable should be the same as the Omina 2. anyone tired it out can let us know?
thanks.
For those wondering about tv-out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMnOvAvCTiA
Just saw this myself on youtube - great news! I have like three spare Nokia TV-Out cables. Likely to be a quite bit more useful than DLNA TV-Out for me...
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Just saw this myself on youtube - great news! I have like three spare Nokia TV-Out cables. Likely to be a quite bit more useful than DLNA TV-Out for me...
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DLNA TV-Out ??????
Thank you zkillers for posting the link
too bad it wasn't the micro-usb
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DLNA TV-Out ??????
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I guess you knew exactly what he meant
Hah, working 70 hours weeks as a junior doc with a collicky 9 week old at home will do that to ya!
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Hah, working 70 hours weeks as a junior doc with a collicky 9 week old at home will do that to ya!
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It amazes me the amount of other Surgeons & Doctors I come across here.
Sorry to hear about your new born's condition.
I know you know but to all others here an infant with collick can be quite stressful for parents as the child can cry for up to several hours a day.
At nine weeks old you could still be in for some sleepless nights as it can last up to four months......
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If anyone else is interested about what collick is you can read a good guide here.
....and we're back on topic sorry.
I know someone posted a link to a UK site selling the Nokia TV out cable, but its not in the obvious place (namely, this thread). Did anyone get the Nokia cable and can they give me the make I need to order? Thanks.
I bougt the Nokia cable, it's a CA-75U for Nokia N95-N97, cost me £1.94 delivered from ebay seller "SuperEtrader"
I've just ordered one. Thanks.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=400136001596
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I know someone posted a link to a UK site selling the Nokia TV out cable, but its not in the obvious place (namely, this thread). Did anyone get the Nokia cable and can they give me the make I need to order? Thanks.
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Mark, it was this one. I ordered one myself this morning.
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Mark, it was this one. I ordered one myself this morning.
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Thanks for the link, I was wondering which cable I needed. Off to order one now.
Beards said:
It amazes me the amount of other Surgeons & Doctors I come across here.
Sorry to hear about your new born's condition.
I know you know but to all others here an infant with collick can be quite stressful for parents as the child can cry for up to several hours a day.
At nine weeks old you could still be in for some sleepless nights as it can last up to four months......
If anyone else is interested about what collick is you can read a good guide here.
....and we're back on topic sorry.
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Hey Beards, thanks for the article! Came accross very handy now. (4 month old daughter here!)
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Hey Beards, thanks for the article! Came accross very handy now. (4 month old daughter here!)
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My pleasure.... If any part of what you find comes as good advice/help then that is all that matters.
I know parents find it extremely difficult to cope in any situation with their child, that's why we must ensure they too are treated as patients.
I ordered the same one from amazon for £2, free postage and packaging. Works pretty decent, sounds a bit low, and I haven't managed to get rid of the borders, but I haven't messed around with overscan on the tv, but it should fix it.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Does anyone knows if the TV-out cable for Samsung Omnia II will work with SGS?
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Does anyone knows if the TV-out cable for Samsung Omnia II will work with SGS?
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Providing one end is a 3.5mm Jack and the other is the normal Red/White/Yellow then there shouldn't be any difference.
It's just a standard Audio/Video cable... the compatibility lies with the phone not with the cable.
My one is marked Nokia but it works on the SGS.
Thats not correct, I bought some standard HAMA av cable and its not working, it just shows some crippled screen with lines with humming sound in the backgroud.
the prices in the uk are dropping fast already, £7.99 and free shipping on amazon.co.uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005HBWSA2/ref=ox_ya_os_product
says 3-5 days delivery so should be uk stock.
will follow up when it arrives and we will see if it works.
Ordered on monday and arrived on wednesday
looks to be a bizlink made adaptor as it has the logos on it.
Works perfectly! just plug in and play!
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Could be a potential deal for me, can't wait to see your review!
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Could be a potential deal for me, can't wait to see your review!
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its not much of a review but, its plug and play and woks just fine.
great adaptor and great price, arrived fast too.
Is the quality good enough on the TV?
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its not much of a review but, its plug and play and woks just fine.
great adaptor and great price, arrived fast too.
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Are you using a custom rom? I just got mine today and plug and play isn't working. I'm on insertcoin 2.2.3 right now. Not sure if the rom has something to do with it?
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Are you using a custom rom? I just got mine today and plug and play isn't working. I'm on insertcoin 2.2.3 right now. Not sure if the rom has something to do with it?
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Im using a custom rom and have no issues so far, im using energyrom currently.
make sure you are using a charger with 1A output, a usb port and another 500ma charger i have dont work so i guess dont provide enough power.
make sure your tv is on the right input too, if your tv disconnects certain signal pins when channel isnt in use it may not appear to work on your phone.
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so far its fantastic and i think you will he happy but of course it really does depend on the source file quality.
all phone menus output at 720p frame size and look ok considering they are scaled up so much., i guess 1080p video will be scaled down.
Htc Watch rentals/downloads are only 960x540 (some are 720x576) frame size and have a bitrate of about 2000kb/s, they look average at best on a large screen but are watchable.
Blu-ray files encoded to mp4 720p 3000kb/s looks very very good for a single pass, 2.9gb file for 2 hour film.
2000kb/s was very pixelated and no good.
im encoding the same file at 4000 and 5000kb/s to see if the phone is capable of playing such high bitrates.
videos play as smooth on the big screen as they do on the small screen.
i notice a slight judder but then the phone seems to do this on all vidoes but then im looking for it so do see it.
really happy with my mhl adaptor, well worth £8
It's gone up to £14.99 (probably due to the increase in sales) however I picked one up from Amazon for £10.99
just wondering, are you able to play 720p movies with no lags at all?
If so, are u using software encoding or hardware encoding?
thanks!
Does anyone have one?
I was thinking of getting one soon
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-sen...headset-with-flat-cable-white-rc-e190-223278/
They are just a white version of the one's that come with the HTC Rhyme
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Hi there,
I have ordered one from Expansys 3 weeks ago. After I submitted my order I was told it will take 21 days to get my headset. After 21 + a few days were gone, I rang them to check, where my headset is. I was told they will probably need another 32 days to deliver it...
It looks great, fully compatible with HTC (as opposed to various other headsets, especially when it comes to remote control) but waiting for it 2+ month is not definitely worthy...
Byez.
That's a shame on the shipping delay, because that looks like a damn fine headset otherwise. I'm assuming it's some sort of problem in the production pipeline, since accessories obviously won't get much priority over the bigger stuff.
If it's not too much trouble, would you mind posting up a quick review if and when yours finally shows up, danko.stefan?
Loving the look of those headphones, if only they came in black I'd
order a pair. Great they have the 'anti tangle' ribbon too.
danko.stefan said:
Hi there,
I have ordered one from Expansys 3 weeks ago. After I submitted my order I was told it will take 21 days to get my headset. After 21 + a few days were gone, I rang them to check, where my headset is. I was told they will probably need another 32 days to deliver it...
It looks great, fully compatible with HTC (as opposed to various other headsets, especially when it comes to remote control) but waiting for it 2+ month is not definitely worthy...
Byez.
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I think this was due to you living in Hungary and customs are interfering with a shorting shipping time. If I order something from China, it won't get here for about 20 days.
Official HTC store are selling them and all are sold out at moment
@ sosquidtaste :: Hi - no problem, will do - still 27 days to go (26 are gone already...).
@ Ace42 :: I do not think it has anything to do with shipping to Hungary. I ordered it from the UK... Expansys - who are HTC's official distributors in Europe - advised they had been out of stock for various weeks. They ordered 300 pieces, they were also told by HTC they are going to receive the shipment within a month time but HTC finally could not fulfil their order on time - so my order is delayed in line with theirs, unfortunately...
4 days to go... Hope it will not be extended this time.
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4 days to go... Hope it will not be extended this time.
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I hope you get them soon too.
I'm waiting until someone gets a pair and tries them before i order mine.
They look nice, but they probably sound bad. I mean come on, look at the size of the drivers.
3 days delivery time turned to 17 days today, again... I am considering to cease the order, seriously...
Aww man it sucks that your order keeps getting delayed. I emailed expansys usa and they told me if I order it would ship in 5-10 days. Strange because the website said out of stock. Based on this thread I decided not to order from them. I really wanted these headphones and search all over the internet. Everywhere is out of stock! The only place that had it was ebay but the price is almost doubled and coming from taiwan.
I just have to have these so I paid the $37.50 and now I'm waiting by the mail box. It says the seller still has 3 left if anyone else is as crazy as me hehehe.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
Fingers crossed - hope yours arrives on time! ;-)
Buy mine!
Not flat per se, but def not prone to tangling lol....
It's the marc ecko unlimited zip buds. Mic and button works on android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20007358&postcount=26
these looks really nice as well..
putting this with a white cover would make the phone look damn good..
pity that i i cant get a white cover on due to my otterbox commuter case or else i definitely get these
Hey there!
I found these the other day. Not white but still flat cable, and equiped with one multi-button - read the specs for the details. Seems to be a good buy.
http://www.jays.se/products/earphones/a-jays-one-plus.html
had the a-jays one before. it was good, albeit its a lil bit more on the bass side but its clarity is superb! sadly though it's broken after my own fault of not taking care of it nicely :/
this headset is here available for 10euros incl shipping, i think i will give it a try, the normal sensation headset sucks, pain in the ears
edit: okay, made an order at amazon with 24hours delivery for 18euros incl shipping.... will report tomorrow how they are
danko.stefan said:
Hey there!
I found these the other day. Not white but still flat cable, and equiped with one multi-button - read the specs for the details. Seems to be a good buy.
http://www.jays.se/products/earphones/a-jays-one-plus.html
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Great find! Too bad I already have a set of ibeats. But the android app works to control volume!
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEwNCwic2UuamF5cy5oZWFkc2V0Y29udHJvbCJd
soooo dhl delivered them today.... they look really very nice.... the flat cable is "flabbering" a little bit but hey, they look nice and thats important for me. but a little contra i recognized... they are not very loud, even with beats audio plugin. i dont know if in the train when everything is loud, i really wont hear the rest of the world when im listening to music. with my 10bucks philips in ear i doesnt hear anything. comparing them in my hand the philips are definetiley very louder. the mic and the music buttons are working. for normal users they are great, but i dont know if power music fans will like them.... testing in the next days