If I'm looking to buy a rogers 32A that has been upgraded to the 3.05 official sense, does that mean I can't root?
is 1.76.0010 the spl that the rogers update applies or is it 0009? and which of the 1.76 series spl's are actually rootable?
Thanks.
Jcarrz1
009 OR 010, It doesn't matter
U can run that roger ruu to see the version. I think .010. So far 009 and 010 are perfected spl if it is S-On. But 009 is hackable if it S-Off.
Cheers.
Oh I see. Thanks forthe help. Does anyone know what s-on or s-off means?
I saw cursordroid mention it in a thread, but i didnt catch on to what it meant.
Thanks,
Jcarrz1
Security-on. Security-off
If you buy a 32-a from rogers it will be un-rootable until someone figures out how to hack the new spl
Security-on. Security-off
If you buy a 32-a from rogers it will be un-rootable until someone figures out how to hack the new spl
novadoc said:
Security-on. Security-off
If you buy a 32-a from rogers it will be un-rootable until someone figures out how to hack the new spl
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thanks.............!
In my experience the firmware isn't as bad as people make it to be.
The ROM is 3.05.631.7
You can cross flash to any other 3.05 ROM as long as you have a goldcard. Everyone on 3.05 is waiting for a newer or equal version that has a fastbootable SPL.
SPL is 0009
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Hi
We now know there are some 32A managed to upgrade using the official RUU. Please share your radio and SPL information. Hopefully this will help a bit.
Radio with successful upgrade:
No info yet
SPL with successful upgrade:
1.33.2009
1.33.2010
Nice idea.
Could you please post a link where we can download the official RUU in the first post?
And, what are the risks of this? Can I brick my phone?
I'm playing with Hero ROMs for a while and I don't want to brick my phone with this official stuff.
This thread is a good idea. I don't want someone's hacked up 32b mod with a 32a upgrade. This rom is for 32A devices - why can't someone just root it and package it as an update.zip? Surely that'd be more productive...
I don't mean to put this thread further off course, because it is a good idea, but I agree with apacheo.
We need a no-nonsense 32A ONLY ROM for our phones. I tried eugene's ROM earlier today, and it's pretty good, but it's a lot buggier than I'm sure the stock ROM would be.
gpmoo7 said:
Nice idea.
Could you please post a link where we can download the official RUU in the first post?
And, what are the risks of this? Can I brick my phone?
I'm playing with Hero ROMs for a while and I don't want to brick my phone with this official stuff.
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Just wait a little while for redglasses to finish up his cooking for the myHero 2.0 so yo can keep root!
Its because the majority of people here have a mytouch or 32b.. if the majority was 32a you can bet someone would have the TW RUU file somehow tricked to work on all 32a.. right from the start they are just woried about cooking it to work on thier phones.. we just need to be patient i guess
cursordroid said:
I don't mean to put this thread further off course, because it is a good idea, but I agree with apacheo.
We need a no-nonsense 32A ONLY ROM for our phones. I tried eugene's ROM earlier today, and it's pretty good, but it's a lot buggier than I'm sure the stock ROM would be.
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There will be and hopefully soon enough. I know redglasses is working on his myHero 2.0 and i really appriciate that he take his time cooking this instead of putting something together way to fast like others around
Think that "the fastes rom" was missundestood. It's not about being the first to release a cooked rom
I'm just kidding, i appriciate what eugene is doing maybe just released the things a little bit to fast
Keep up the good and hard work guy's!
cursordroid said:
I don't mean to put this thread further off course, because it is a good idea, but I agree with apacheo.
We need a no-nonsense 32A ONLY ROM for our phones. I tried eugene's ROM earlier today, and it's pretty good, but it's a lot buggier than I'm sure the stock ROM would be.
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hotweiss has said he will be releasing the HoFo 3.0 ROM based on the dump this weekend. It's specifically for 32A.
could anyone who successfully flashed the official RUU post a nandroid backup?
I don't think it depend on the SPL only.
Because I have tried 009 and 010, neither of them can work.
So there must be something else.
Both radio and SPL version should be critical.
If there is a particular trend, I guess it is easier to troubleshoot.
my spl 0010 regional: IND uprade completely ! I swear! In our chinese forum ,no IND version bricked ...but the others are not optimistic...
origins81 said:
could anyone who successfully flashed the official RUU post a nandroid backup?
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I would... But i can't boot to amon-ra's recovery... Seems all known exploits are fixed in the 1.76.0007 spl
Also i started out with spl 1.33.0009 and the radio from 2.20, which i can't remember what was called....
im pretty sure this one doesn't work for update
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
ranger79 said:
Hi
We now know there are some 32A managed to upgrade using the official RUU. Please share your radio and SPL information. Hopefully this will help a bit.
Radio with successful upgrade:
No info yet
SPL with successful upgrade:
1.33.2009
1.33.2010
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I upgraded successfully my spl was 1.33.2010 eng and radio was 3.22... or something like this don't remember but my 32 a was from India so any person having bought theit 32 a's from india can tell u the radio
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I upgraded successfully my spl was 1.33.2010 eng and radio was 3.22... or something like this don't remember but my 32 a was from India so any person having bought theit 32 a's from india can tell u the radio
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I havent done this ROM yet. And I have an Indian Magic, the RADIO is :
RADIO-3.22.20.17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
This has official RUU's for 32A i think
I find the way to update
Firstly it's nothing about spl and radio I think. I use a goldcard to put it inside a magic with the official RUU to pass the CID check and step by step,it worked! I'm sure it will work on the other g2,you will be successeful! Sorry for my poor English..but it really worked on my g2 from indonesea and another from India.
This software is suitable for the following devices : HTC Magic
ROM upgrade for HTC Magic
Release Date: 2009-10-28
An updated ROM is now available for HTC Magic customers to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Installation Instructions:
ROM version 2.20.401.2
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Vodafone Proximus BE Magic 32A not accepted!
I'm pretty sure that it's just the plain stock 1.5 just with language support...
It is, confirmed.
It is my understanding that you should not update to this because it contains the perfect SPL.
The update to the Sense Rom will specifically say so. And again, from what I read, if you choose to do so, it will contain a perfect SPL.
visitador02 said:
It is my understanding that you should not update to this because it contains the perfect SPL.
The update to the Sense Rom will specifically say so. And again, from what I read, if you choose to do so, it will contain a perfect SPL.
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This Update makes the phone useless to custom roms and everything good about the phone.
Info from my Fastboot:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
If anyone can come up whit a solution for this I will be very pleased
1.33.0014?
Thats a never seen before SPL? :O
DopyG said:
1.33.0014?
Thats a never seen before SPL? :O
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It's not newer... Thats the SPL that came in the HTC Magics of my country (Chile in South America)...
It can be rooted using the goldcard method, but at least here in Chile, after you use the goldcard the magic looses the 3g, Edge, and any kind of mobile internet connectivity...You can still use wifi)...
I just have a few questions.
I have a MT3G with SPL 1.33.2005 and am wondering if i should/can upgrade to 1.33.2009. What is the difference between the two?
You could but no point in doing it,its the same for us MT3G users.Now G1 its a different story.
alright thanks for the reply bro!
Hi. Right now I'm running Cursorsense, and really happy with it .
I Have:
SPL-1.76.2007
RADIO-6.35.10.18
How many Roms are out there for new SPL and Radio?
Wanna do some testing.
Depends. Do you value GPS, Bluetooth, WIFI and Youtube/Videos to properly function and no FCs? Then CusorSense is you're only bet right now.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great ROM but 1.5 is getting old....
I know.. 1.5 is gettin old. I need BT, WiFi and GPS Work
Developers are still using old SPL and Radio. Just want to know why?
kencix said:
I know.. 1.5 is gettin old. I need BT, WiFi and GPS Work
Developers are still using old SPL and Radio. Just want to know why?
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32B is the standard that people are developing for and is what the AOSP source is based on. 32A on the old radio is a very easy port from 32B. They both use a very similar 2.6.29 kernel.
Also, there is no stable working kernel 2.6.29 for 32A on the new 6.35 radio.
cursordroid said:
32B is the standard that people are developing for and is what the AOSP source is based on. 32A on the old radio is a very easy port from 32B. They both use a very similar 2.6.29 kernel.
Also, there is no stable working kernel 2.6.29 for 32A on the new 6.35 radio.
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Tnx for the info.
Question for you.
Why are you using new ones?
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Look like it will be a thread for learning...
I am listening...!
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Talon88 said:
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Look like it will be a thread for learning...
I am listening...!
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We need that kind of thread
Why do we need a different SPL?
I'm on this
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010(SAPP1000)
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009, 17:28:28
And used the "how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click" to root the phone , then installed Amon RA's 1.5.2H recovery and flashed CyanogenMod from "wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/32A_Kernel", and the 32A port using the before mentioned recovery program.
I have no problems.
Why do I need another SPL and Radio? if I want to flash CursorSense32A, OpenEclair or the KingKlick rom's <- just to mention a few...
*J*
The next official Android 2.1 update will most likely have the latest radio too.
So if you want to have the latest (rooted) official HTC roms on your device, you need the latest radio too.
Caught my attention.... I'm subscribing...
I posted a set of related questions Here...
Summary:
1.33.2010 vs 1.76.2007 SPL
3.22.20.17 vs 6.35.x.x radio
Ok, so what is the difference, other than they are required for certain ROMs? Are there new features or ???
What phones actually came with these 'new' versions; I have a new Rogers Magic and it had the old versions installed. I also believe the Rogers update (OTA) was still the old SPL, although a perfected version.
Why would someone want to upgrade and are there incompatibilities with providers (mine is 850/1900 freq - radio specifically)
I also read a comment that said something to the likes of:
The new radio and SPL makes the 32A a Hero (or like)... (I think from Amon in another thread.) Does that mean it can run the Hero kernel (build kern for Hero device type), a port; I assume it can't run a Hero ROM direct, is it just easier to port those ROMs?
Didn't see any of this described anywhere or in the wiki, at least that made sense to me.
I'd be glad to tack it in for reference if we get some good information... (I'm sure that I'm not the only one overwhelmed by all this information and I read through these forums all the time, entire threads... Also was a firmware engineer, *IX admin and java dev in a past life)
2 cursordroid: hope you aren't ending with your awesome work, cause i can't wait your next great rom) of course, if you're planning something for us...?
I'm currently using marsdroid lite for the new radio. pretty fast (way smoother than another new spl/radio superD i used before).
and btw, the new radio is indeed different: I now have reception in some of the subway stations in Toronto which is impossible w/ the old radio.
Radio = Reception and might be viewed by Rogers?
stgeorge88 said:
I now have reception in some of the subway stations in Toronto which is impossible w/ the old radio.
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So, new radio is for reception, and might be some sort of recognition of a fix that Rogers sent out because of problems with calling "911". <- Am I on the right track?
Why does the Rom care about the radio version?
Is the SPL, a sort of a preloader that will pick up the phone layout before booting into a rom?
And a 32A is different from a 32B because? (is it internal ram, 288 vs 192)
the 911 fix was part of the update afaik, the radio change has nothing to do with the fix.
yes it is the internal ram difference. also the boards for the two phones are different, however if you look around the dev section there is a way to port any 32b rom to 32a. however it will only use 192 ram
SPL = second program loader (if memory serves)
Hi all,
Do you have any ideas to deal with Perfected SPL 1.76.0009? I got stuck with this ROM when upgrading to the latest official ROM.
Please help!!!
me too Please help
dhlong1010 said:
Hi all,
Do you have any ideas to deal with Perfected SPL 1.76.0009? I got stuck with this ROM when upgrading to the latest official ROM.
Please help!!!
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No one has been able to break it yet.
Same story here.. help pls.
it was caused by flashing the latest RUU..
RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe
you have to face it guys, this time htc won , no more rom cooking for magic with this spl
leimanpt said:
you have to face it guys, this time htc won , no more rom cooking for magic with this spl
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... for now
leimanpt said:
you have to face it guys, this time htc won , no more rom cooking for magic with this spl
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I couldn't care less to be honest. Every custom rom i've tried ran like a poo, this one on the other hand is flweless. Fast, stable and everything works. Rogers will roll out an official 2.1 in a few months and that's when i will upgrade my rom.
Yeah but until then, I have a magic that won't be used because I need USB Tethering so I can do my work mobile. Still need root though to do A2SD. Oh lets not forget the other multitude of things we can't do without root. Maybe when it comes out with 2.1, it'll be rootable by default like the Nexus One. They should really give back to the OpenSource community. OpenSource is helping them sell.
SilentTweak said:
Yeah but until then, I have a magic that won't be used because I need USB Tethering so I can do my work mobile. Still need root though to do A2SD. Oh lets not forget the other multitude of things we can't do without root. Maybe when it comes out with 2.1, it'll be rootable by default like the Nexus One. They should really give back to the OpenSource community. OpenSource is helping them sell.
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I think they think it's OK that people who knows what they're doing to have rooted phones. People who knows what they are doing also know how to flash an update without getting perfect SPL. This is just a guess, but I think that if enough people who wants root is getting stuck on this SPL, they will release a way to root (just like they did with 1.76.0007).
ok. so excuse me for being stupid,but there is no way to flash a 1.76.2007?or a 1.33... if there's a 1.76.0009?
Zero00SM said:
ok. so excuse me for being stupid,but there is no way to flash a 1.76.2007?or a 1.33... if there's a 1.76.0009?
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Unfortunetaly you are correct in your statement. If you have done the latest Rogers update, that would force you to have the 1.76.0009 SPL, then at this point, you cannot change to any other SPL.
Rogers is actually 1.76.0010 SPL/HBOOT
ROM 3.05.401.3 Europe: 1.76.0009
ROM 3.05.720.3 Asia India: 1.76.0009
ROM 3.05.631.7 Rogers: 1.76.0010
In any case, I never had the 1.76.0009.
The problem with these ROMs is that you cannot downgrade the ROM to an older version. The SPL is checking for main version (first 3 digits of the HBOOT version)
Can someone confirm this? What happens when you try to goldcard the 1.76.0009 down to a lower version ROM?
xaueious said:
Rogers is actually 1.76.0010 SPL/HBOOT
ROM 3.05.401.3 Europe: 1.76.0009
ROM 3.05.720.3 Asia India: 1.76.0009
ROM 3.05.631.7 Rogers: 1.76.0010
In any case, I never had the 1.76.0009.
The problem with these ROMs is that you cannot downgrade the ROM to an older version. The SPL is checking for main version (first 3 digits of the HBOOT version)
Can someone confirm this? What happens when you try to goldcard the 1.76.0009 down to a lower version ROM?
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Old story- Main version is older.
thihaz said:
Old story- Main version is older.
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same here.
I guess the only thing to do is wait so much for a htc official.Any infos about the release?
I'll try this when I get my serial cable which I ordered. Will post results, maybe a howto thread.
xaueious said:
Rogers is actually 1.76.0010 SPL/HBOOT
ROM 3.05.401.3 Europe: 1.76.0009
ROM 3.05.720.3 Asia India: 1.76.0009
ROM 3.05.631.7 Rogers: 1.76.0010
In any case, I never had the 1.76.0009.
The problem with these ROMs is that you cannot downgrade the ROM to an older version. The SPL is checking for main version (first 3 digits of the HBOOT version)
Can someone confirm this? What happens when you try to goldcard the 1.76.0009 down to a lower version ROM?
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i tried the goldcard method on a friends magic which he recently purchased and was already updated
it didnt work. maybe i didnt do it properly?.. the devs here are geniuses, theyll figure it out i hope.
grimey01 said:
i tried the goldcard method on a friends magic which he recently purchased and was already updated
it didnt work. maybe i didnt do it properly?.. the devs here are geniuses, theyll figure it out i hope.
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Didn't work cause you'll need a sappimg with higher manver than the current on your phone.
There is a solution. You need a serial cable.
QuadDamage said:
There is a solution. You need a serial cable.
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This method? As I said, I'll try that when i get the serial cable I ordered.
Edit: Also, will it work putting this, this and this cable together instead of making one?
Hi all.
I think I've fixed the perfected SPL 1.76.0009. I took the system.img from the Indian ROM 3.05.720.3 and put together a sappimg.zip (mirror - more mirrors coming soon) [MD5SUM: 20333385aab3f209dd708507f320c1ee].
Put this in a goldcard (see my blog for the procedure of making a goldcard - use google translate in the sidebar to translate from Greek) and go in HBOOT mode by holding volume down and momentarily pressing the power button. The HBOOT should peak the sappimg.zip. Follow the on screen instructions and at the end of the procedure you should have the non perfected SPL 1.76.2007 installed as well as radio 6.35.10.18 and Amon_Ra's modified recovery for radio 6.35.xx.xx. From then on you can install whatever ROM you like (it must be for radio 6.35.xx) or downgrade your radio to 3.22.xx.xx and use the ROMs built for this radio.