New Radio and SPL. How many ROMS? - myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development

Hi. Right now I'm running Cursorsense, and really happy with it .
I Have:
SPL-1.76.2007
RADIO-6.35.10.18
How many Roms are out there for new SPL and Radio?
Wanna do some testing.

Depends. Do you value GPS, Bluetooth, WIFI and Youtube/Videos to properly function and no FCs? Then CusorSense is you're only bet right now.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great ROM but 1.5 is getting old....

I know.. 1.5 is gettin old. I need BT, WiFi and GPS Work
Developers are still using old SPL and Radio. Just want to know why?

kencix said:
I know.. 1.5 is gettin old. I need BT, WiFi and GPS Work
Developers are still using old SPL and Radio. Just want to know why?
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32B is the standard that people are developing for and is what the AOSP source is based on. 32A on the old radio is a very easy port from 32B. They both use a very similar 2.6.29 kernel.
Also, there is no stable working kernel 2.6.29 for 32A on the new 6.35 radio.

cursordroid said:
32B is the standard that people are developing for and is what the AOSP source is based on. 32A on the old radio is a very easy port from 32B. They both use a very similar 2.6.29 kernel.
Also, there is no stable working kernel 2.6.29 for 32A on the new 6.35 radio.
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Tnx for the info.
Question for you.
Why are you using new ones?

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We need that kind of thread

Why do we need a different SPL?
I'm on this
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010(SAPP1000)
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009, 17:28:28
And used the "how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click" to root the phone , then installed Amon RA's 1.5.2H recovery and flashed CyanogenMod from "wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/32A_Kernel", and the 32A port using the before mentioned recovery program.
I have no problems.
Why do I need another SPL and Radio? if I want to flash CursorSense32A, OpenEclair or the KingKlick rom's <- just to mention a few...
*J*

The next official Android 2.1 update will most likely have the latest radio too.
So if you want to have the latest (rooted) official HTC roms on your device, you need the latest radio too.

Caught my attention.... I'm subscribing...
I posted a set of related questions Here...
Summary:
1.33.2010 vs 1.76.2007 SPL
3.22.20.17 vs 6.35.x.x radio
Ok, so what is the difference, other than they are required for certain ROMs? Are there new features or ???
What phones actually came with these 'new' versions; I have a new Rogers Magic and it had the old versions installed. I also believe the Rogers update (OTA) was still the old SPL, although a perfected version.
Why would someone want to upgrade and are there incompatibilities with providers (mine is 850/1900 freq - radio specifically)
I also read a comment that said something to the likes of:
The new radio and SPL makes the 32A a Hero (or like)... (I think from Amon in another thread.) Does that mean it can run the Hero kernel (build kern for Hero device type), a port; I assume it can't run a Hero ROM direct, is it just easier to port those ROMs?
Didn't see any of this described anywhere or in the wiki, at least that made sense to me.
I'd be glad to tack it in for reference if we get some good information... (I'm sure that I'm not the only one overwhelmed by all this information and I read through these forums all the time, entire threads... Also was a firmware engineer, *IX admin and java dev in a past life)

2 cursordroid: hope you aren't ending with your awesome work, cause i can't wait your next great rom) of course, if you're planning something for us...?

I'm currently using marsdroid lite for the new radio. pretty fast (way smoother than another new spl/radio superD i used before).
and btw, the new radio is indeed different: I now have reception in some of the subway stations in Toronto which is impossible w/ the old radio.

Radio = Reception and might be viewed by Rogers?
stgeorge88 said:
I now have reception in some of the subway stations in Toronto which is impossible w/ the old radio.
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So, new radio is for reception, and might be some sort of recognition of a fix that Rogers sent out because of problems with calling "911". <- Am I on the right track?
Why does the Rom care about the radio version?
Is the SPL, a sort of a preloader that will pick up the phone layout before booting into a rom?
And a 32A is different from a 32B because? (is it internal ram, 288 vs 192)

the 911 fix was part of the update afaik, the radio change has nothing to do with the fix.
yes it is the internal ram difference. also the boards for the two phones are different, however if you look around the dev section there is a way to port any 32b rom to 32a. however it will only use 192 ram
SPL = second program loader (if memory serves)

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Can I use 32B ROM on 32A board

I'm using HTC Branded Magic ( PVT32A board ). I like some ROM for PVT32B only. Can I use 32B ROM on 32A board ????
Sorry for my poor English.
Thanks for reading !!
Hi linhnd,
I'm still quite new in this forum and have only had my Magic for 2 weeks now. But for what I'm convinced - you cannot use a 32B ROM on your 32A device as out-of-the-box sollution.
I've seen on other treads, that some people have managed to fix and modify a ROM to use on a different device. So it should maybe be possible...
Try surfing around -
Yeap, I known 32B ROM can't use for 32A boards. But I'm finding solution for that )
Try to see this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538588
It seems fairly easy to make a change 32A vs 32B - maybe it can be used the other way around also...

32A Radio and SPL information for successful RUU upgrade

Hi
We now know there are some 32A managed to upgrade using the official RUU. Please share your radio and SPL information. Hopefully this will help a bit.
Radio with successful upgrade:
No info yet
SPL with successful upgrade:
1.33.2009
1.33.2010
Nice idea.
Could you please post a link where we can download the official RUU in the first post?
And, what are the risks of this? Can I brick my phone?
I'm playing with Hero ROMs for a while and I don't want to brick my phone with this official stuff.
This thread is a good idea. I don't want someone's hacked up 32b mod with a 32a upgrade. This rom is for 32A devices - why can't someone just root it and package it as an update.zip? Surely that'd be more productive...
I don't mean to put this thread further off course, because it is a good idea, but I agree with apacheo.
We need a no-nonsense 32A ONLY ROM for our phones. I tried eugene's ROM earlier today, and it's pretty good, but it's a lot buggier than I'm sure the stock ROM would be.
gpmoo7 said:
Nice idea.
Could you please post a link where we can download the official RUU in the first post?
And, what are the risks of this? Can I brick my phone?
I'm playing with Hero ROMs for a while and I don't want to brick my phone with this official stuff.
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Just wait a little while for redglasses to finish up his cooking for the myHero 2.0 so yo can keep root!
Its because the majority of people here have a mytouch or 32b.. if the majority was 32a you can bet someone would have the TW RUU file somehow tricked to work on all 32a.. right from the start they are just woried about cooking it to work on thier phones.. we just need to be patient i guess
cursordroid said:
I don't mean to put this thread further off course, because it is a good idea, but I agree with apacheo.
We need a no-nonsense 32A ONLY ROM for our phones. I tried eugene's ROM earlier today, and it's pretty good, but it's a lot buggier than I'm sure the stock ROM would be.
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There will be and hopefully soon enough. I know redglasses is working on his myHero 2.0 and i really appriciate that he take his time cooking this instead of putting something together way to fast like others around
Think that "the fastes rom" was missundestood. It's not about being the first to release a cooked rom
I'm just kidding, i appriciate what eugene is doing maybe just released the things a little bit to fast
Keep up the good and hard work guy's!
cursordroid said:
I don't mean to put this thread further off course, because it is a good idea, but I agree with apacheo.
We need a no-nonsense 32A ONLY ROM for our phones. I tried eugene's ROM earlier today, and it's pretty good, but it's a lot buggier than I'm sure the stock ROM would be.
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hotweiss has said he will be releasing the HoFo 3.0 ROM based on the dump this weekend. It's specifically for 32A.
could anyone who successfully flashed the official RUU post a nandroid backup?
I don't think it depend on the SPL only.
Because I have tried 009 and 010, neither of them can work.
So there must be something else.
Both radio and SPL version should be critical.
If there is a particular trend, I guess it is easier to troubleshoot.
my spl 0010 regional: IND uprade completely ! I swear! In our chinese forum ,no IND version bricked ...but the others are not optimistic...
origins81 said:
could anyone who successfully flashed the official RUU post a nandroid backup?
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I would... But i can't boot to amon-ra's recovery... Seems all known exploits are fixed in the 1.76.0007 spl
Also i started out with spl 1.33.0009 and the radio from 2.20, which i can't remember what was called....
im pretty sure this one doesn't work for update
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
ranger79 said:
Hi
We now know there are some 32A managed to upgrade using the official RUU. Please share your radio and SPL information. Hopefully this will help a bit.
Radio with successful upgrade:
No info yet
SPL with successful upgrade:
1.33.2009
1.33.2010
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I upgraded successfully my spl was 1.33.2010 eng and radio was 3.22... or something like this don't remember but my 32 a was from India so any person having bought theit 32 a's from india can tell u the radio
ishanISCOOOL said:
I upgraded successfully my spl was 1.33.2010 eng and radio was 3.22... or something like this don't remember but my 32 a was from India so any person having bought theit 32 a's from india can tell u the radio
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I havent done this ROM yet. And I have an Indian Magic, the RADIO is :
RADIO-3.22.20.17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
This has official RUU's for 32A i think
I find the way to update
Firstly it's nothing about spl and radio I think. I use a goldcard to put it inside a magic with the official RUU to pass the CID check and step by step,it worked! I'm sure it will work on the other g2,you will be successeful! Sorry for my poor English..but it really worked on my g2 from indonesea and another from India.

HTC Magic ROM Update, tweeted some hours ago... Makes NO (UI) Sense...

This software is suitable for the following devices : HTC Magic
ROM upgrade for HTC Magic
Release Date: 2009-10-28
An updated ROM is now available for HTC Magic customers to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Installation Instructions:
ROM version 2.20.401.2
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Vodafone Proximus BE Magic 32A not accepted!
I'm pretty sure that it's just the plain stock 1.5 just with language support...
It is, confirmed.
It is my understanding that you should not update to this because it contains the perfect SPL.
The update to the Sense Rom will specifically say so. And again, from what I read, if you choose to do so, it will contain a perfect SPL.
visitador02 said:
It is my understanding that you should not update to this because it contains the perfect SPL.
The update to the Sense Rom will specifically say so. And again, from what I read, if you choose to do so, it will contain a perfect SPL.
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This Update makes the phone useless to custom roms and everything good about the phone.
Info from my Fastboot:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
If anyone can come up whit a solution for this I will be very pleased
1.33.0014?
Thats a never seen before SPL? :O
DopyG said:
1.33.0014?
Thats a never seen before SPL? :O
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It's not newer... Thats the SPL that came in the HTC Magics of my country (Chile in South America)...
It can be rooted using the goldcard method, but at least here in Chile, after you use the goldcard the magic looses the 3g, Edge, and any kind of mobile internet connectivity...You can still use wifi)...

Android 2.1 now with Sense UI - Rom Available for 32b

For those of you who doesn't know about this yet, check it out over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592568
I know i posted in the wrong forum, sorry :/ But it is still a ROM.
Topic says 32B so i guess its 32B only still
This is available for both 32a and 32b HTC Magics?
Have anyone try it on 32A Device ?
i do not think that 2.1 can run on magic 32a atm. Need to have port to be able to run on 32a board.
paindoo said:
i do not think that 2.1 can run on magic 32a atm. Need to have port to be able to run on 32a board.
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This ROM is native to the Hero platform, which is essentially the 32A Magic.
These devs have ported it for 32B and will then create a patch to port it to 32A. It's like taking the long way around to get right back to where you were before.
I'll wait for a clean 32A port of this ROM.
This might be a naive question but why is it that all latest roms released are ported to 32b devices first? Isn't the Hero 2.1 rom designed for devices with 288MB RAM? Shouldn't support for the 32a Magic be the first one available?
I'm just glad that they are ported to 32b first, i got a 32b of course
ctalbot said:
This might be a naive question but why is it that all latest roms released are ported to 32b devices first? Isn't the Hero 2.1 rom designed for devices with 288MB RAM? Shouldn't support for the 32a Magic be the first one available?
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i guess dev create rom first for 32b because of the number of 32b devices. I think 32a devices are not many in numbers.
About 32A go HERE
paindoo said:
i guess dev create rom first for 32b because of the number of 32b devices. I think 32a devices are not many in numbers.
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And the dev is using a T-Mobile MyTouch3g, which is a 32B device.
What bothers me is that these images leaked from HTC are hoarded by the devs in the Dream forums and we're the last ones to get a peek in at them. We always end up porting the ROMs that they create instead of having a chance to build some of our own.
WebghostDK said:
I'm just glad that they are ported to 32b first, i got a 32b of course
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Same here! 32B HTC Magic!
All 32A users can boot it with kernel image..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592848

32b to 32a via Radio flash - Need the radio image and ROM recommendations

Finding TONS of dead 4shared links to the file Eugene was linking everyone to, but can't find the 32a (3.2.2 version I believe) radio anywhere. For the folks running 32b boards, is it now common practice to flash radio and use 32a ROMS?
If so, can someone direct me to the the radio image (and anything else I might need beyond fastboot or adb)?
Also, once I've flashed to 32a, I'm hoping to find a Sense 2.1 ROM with bluetooth. Anyone know of a working one? If not, how about a recommendation to a working Eclair ROM (preferably with bluetooth also, but I can live w/o)?
Thanks in advance. I've been searching and feel like either 32b is largely abandoned or I'm missing something (perhaps because is "common knowledge" now and I've been focusing on the Droid community for a while and am out of the loop).
Don't try to flash a 32A Radio to a 32B phone. Won't work at best and may brick your phone at worst!
These are hardwarewise different devices. Or did I miss your point?
nope you can flash a 32A radio on your 32B as long as you follow procedures correctly. I don't know too much about them but I see people doing it all the time. I wouldn't flash the 6.35 32A radio though, just the 3.22. I highly doubt you can use the 2.1 sense rom with 3.22
32B isn't abandonned, theres more for that than 32A. 32A people like myself have to find ports as I don't know how to make one! Most the 32A roms are unstable anyways (for example, 2.1) Until we receive something official, it's not the best everyday rom
yeah id like help withg this as well
most of the 32b roms suck and arent sense haha
like the above poster said
all our roms are just 32b or hero ports
the ones that are stable are 32b
no point in being 32a if you dont have too
alan090 said:
like the above poster said
all our roms are just 32b or hero ports
the ones that are stable are 32b
no point in being 32a if you dont have too
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Bluetooth is one reason, finding a decent Sense ROM is another.
Bluetooth is a reason? Are you sure?
KAwAtA said:
Bluetooth is a reason? Are you sure?
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My current understanding is that there isn't a sense ROM out there where BT works with 32B radio. No longer true?
there are no decent sense roms
the only ones run outdated 1.5 or are 2.1 builds for NEW 6.35 radio
with your 32b low memory sense is not really gonna work any better and you should stick to the 32b ports for sense roms
any sense roms basically require new 6.35 radio to work properly which a 32b cannot support

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