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Verizon Invisible Shield

I just got a full body InvisibleSHIELD installed on my verizon device at a local Zagg mall kiosk, the installer had to cut the bottom to accommodate the 3.5 jack and the side for the volume rocker. The Installer said that Zagg doesn't actually make a Verizon specific body shield. Anyway, here are some pictures of it.
http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/...ction=tags&current=InvisibleSHIELD on VZW TP2
I contacted Zagg about this and a rep told me that because the installer cut the shield that the warranty is now vioded....
This is what she said
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Hello *****,
Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is Betty and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
I sincerely apologize you have been misinformed. We do offer an invisibleSHIELD specifically for the HTC Touch Pro 2 (Verizon). You can find this item on the following links:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-touch-pro-2-verizon-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/search/search.php?x=0&y=0&keyword=htc+touch+pro
In regards to your email, retail locations are authorized sellers of ZAGG. They also have their own separate policy and procedures.
I understand the sales representative at the mall kiosk altered your invisibleSHIELD. If the invisibleSHIELD is cut by anyone other than our professional shield designers, your Lifetime warranty will be voided. We do not recommend cutting or altering the invisibleSHIELD.
I hope this helps! Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or comments.
All the best,
B****
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Hi B****,
Thanks for the speedy response, however let me see if I understand this; because the authorized seller cut my shield in order to make a fit onto my phone, my warranty is voided and now I need to pay for a new shield if I want the correct one installed onto my phone?
Concerned Customer
I am currently awaiting a response from them. I tried calling the kiosk back but no one is answering, they're probably at lunch, however I'm not sure what to tell them aside from "You LIED AND YOU F###ed up my shield, do it again!" If anyone else has had a VZW Zagg shield installed, let me know what the results where please.

Did the installer inform you that they would have to modify the shields before they hacked on them? How did you pay? If by CC then you may have the option of disputing with your CC company.

Bad Zagg experience
I ordered a full body Verizon version via the Zagg website. I was careful to select the Verizon version. Because I have no patience I ordered express delivery.
When the product arrived it was a generic version. Holes in the wrong place ect.. When I called they implied I ordered wrong and suggested next time I order to select the Verizon version. I asked the rep. to order for me so it was correct, and again like a fool I paid for the express delivery. 2 days later it didn't show and when I checked the status it was on backorder. When I tried to cancel the express delivery for obvious reasons they would not do it.
I asked how they accepted my order when they were on backorder. Anyway I was not happy.
I ended up using the generic screen, other than a small camera hole on the top right it fit. After a couple days I was not happy with it's apperance, and how the sides felt. I looked for another option. I found Ghost Armor after searching this site.
I first ordered the full body then minutes later decided to order just the screen not knowing if there would be a difference. Not only did they check wih me to make sure I didn't double order, but they packed both orders together and refunded me the shipping on one order.
Bottom line, no question between the two the Ghost Armor is the best screen cover. You don't even know it's there. However the side and back covers are not great. If protecting your whole phone is vital then Zagg is for you. The Zagg screen wraps around the edges and offers more coverage.
My Verizon Zagg showed up and I left it in the box for now. I don't think I'm covering the back or sides. If I do I will use the Zagg back cover. How funny will that be?!

jsquared, sounds like you have too much money to spend on screen protectors... But is it true that the Zagg covers the sides on the screen portion?

jsquared said:
My Verizon Zagg showed up and I left it in the box for now. I don't think I'm covering the back or sides. If I do I will use the Zagg back cover. How funny will that be?!
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Do you mind taking a look at what the front of the cover looks like?

Yes, the Zagg covers the entire screen and wraps around the top corners, bottom corners, around the bottom buttons, and both sides. However, it does not cover the entire sides. It prob. covers half the sides. It stops at the side crease. The Zagg does cover more than the Ghost Armor sides. My problem with Zagg is that the film is a little cloudy and sticky. It's obvious that there is a screen cover on.
My only concern is the screen and the Ghost Armor is perfect because I can't even tell it's there.
HOWEVER, my best advice is for you to buy both.... that way you can't go wrong

I wish I had seen this first
I just had mine installed at the Valley Faire Mall in San Jose while I traveled through. I was a little leary as he was putting it on because it looked like he had to trim the bottom also and the hole is in the wrong place up top. The center pieces where not cut correctly either and there are gaps where the screen meets the body and the screen. He insists these will go away after 24 hours or so. I think it looks like a total piece of crap. Carefully placed saran wrap would have looked more professional. I'm not even going to bother calling them. I will be in Salt Lake on Friday and I will show them what their "Authorized Resellers" are selling as the correct product and let them explain in person. I have Ghost Armor on my Storm that was put on in their kiosk in Chicago and it looks and feels 100% better. Can't even tell its there. This looks like I left the original plastic on the phone. Maybe if I show them my Ghost Armored Storm it will inspire them to make a better quality product. Ya Right. Highly unrecommended.
I attached some pics of the front. That bottom left corner is never going to lay properly no matter how much time. As you can see it was a real professional job.

Techitrucker said:
I just had mine installed at the Valley Faire Mall in San Jose while I traveled through. I was a little leary as he was putting it on because it looked like he had to trim the bottom also and the hole is in the wrong place up top. The center pieces where not cut correctly either and there are gaps where the screen meets the body and the screen. He insists these will go away after 24 hours or so. I think it looks like a total piece of crap. Carefully placed saran wrap would have looked more professional. I'm not even going to bother calling them. I will be in Salt Lake on Friday and I will show them what their "Authorized Resellers" are selling as the correct product and let them explain in person. I have Ghost Armor on my Storm that was put on in their kiosk in Chicago and it looks and feels 100% better. Can't even tell its there. This looks like I left the original plastic on the phone. Maybe if I show them my Ghost Armored Storm it will inspire them to make a better quality product. Ya Right. Highly unrecommended.
I attached some pics of the front. That bottom left corner is never going to lay properly no matter how much time. As you can see it was a real professional job.
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LMFAO!!!!! that's exactly where I had mine done at! I emailed Zagg and they said that they're going to send me the correct version, I just gotta register my product at their website.

Well it's good to see some positive comments on the ghost armor. I ordered the screen protector only, but have never used it before so I am anxious to see how it looks. I have used the invisishield and phantom skinz, and really haven't like either one. And it's sad to say that I did a better install of the protector myself than the one in the picture posted. Hopefully the ghost armor will not be as sticky and noticeable as the other two. I have yet to see any real negative comments on it yet. The installer of that shield should have his @ss whooped for screwing up your phone....LOL

das7771 said:
Well it's good to see some positive comments on the ghost armor. I ordered the screen protector only, but have never used it before so I am anxious to see how it looks. I have used the invisishield and phantom skinz, and really haven't like either one. And it's sad to say that I did a better install of the protector myself than the one in the picture posted. Hopefully the ghost armor will not be as sticky and noticeable as the other two. I have yet to see any real negative comments on it yet. The installer of that shield should have his @ss whooped for screwing up your phone....LOL
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Honestly, as much as I love a slick slippery phone, I prefer something that has a bit of grip on it so it wont fall outa my hand and it wont slip off my desk. He DID **** up my cover, not my phone, and Zagg will provide a replacement (minus shipping >_< ).

Well, they are sending me a new one, though they tried to make it seem as if I should go away and they where doing me a favor. They screw the pooch, and I have to put $25 bucks on hold so they will send me a proper one. At least they eating the shipping to me. Its going back to them in a white envelope. Screwiest lifetime warranty in the business, designed to keep people from wanting to take advantage of it. Never again.

Yeah, they told me the same, I think I'm going to call the kiosk again and talk to the manager about this, see if I can get him to order in the tp2 skin so that they obsorb the $4 hit (sorry but now-a-days 4 bucks is a lot for shipping for something they they ****ed up on). Obviously if 2 random people on this board happen on the same thread about the same kiosk, then this is probably a problem for them, this doesn't reflect well on Zagg, even if they don't officially own the kiosks.

i installed mine myself and it all went well everything fit but i'm wondering is there supposed to be a piece for around the screen? Mine came with two pieces, the back cover and one for the screen itself but the glossy part around the screen is uncovered. if someone could let me know that would be great thanks

kern417 said:
i installed mine myself and it all went well everything fit but i'm wondering is there supposed to be a piece for around the screen? Mine came with two pieces, the back cover and one for the screen itself but the glossy part around the screen is uncovered. if someone could let me know that would be great thanks
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No, there is no piece for the glossy black part around the screen. My installer told me it was because it may peel off while removing the shield. He said it previously happened with different models of the Blackberry.

After having a Zagg on my TP1 and liking it until it started losing adhesive and peeling off, I originally ordered the Zagg IS generic GSM TP2 model (the one that overlaps the screen and needs to be cut for the 3.5MM jack) and altered it myself to fit as I hadn't heard about the Ghost Armor yet and Zagg didn't have a Verizon version at the time. That said, when I finally got the Ghost Armor, I found it a far superior product to Zagg. No orange peel, better appearance, and better feel, and easier to apply. You really can't tell it's there. I won't be using anything else from now on.

Just talked with the people at the kiosk I had the shield installed; despite what Zagg told me via email they said that they don't make a Verizon specific shield, and that they ALWAYS must alter the shield for the TP2 for Verizon and even some other phones and that Zagg was lying about making Verizon specific shields. I'm going to have to call Zagg about this tomorrow (it's pass their business hours, and email conversation seems to take them 1 day to reply, no matter what) and see who's bullshitting here... Ghost Armor is starting to look like a better option...

tell the idiots at the kiosk to check out zagg's site: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

Murphy71984 said:
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No, there is no piece for the glossy black part around the screen. My installer told me it was because it may peel off while removing the shield. He said it previously happened with different models of the Blackberry.
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LAME....that part sticks out more too. I wish I had a protector on it ):

Got the replacement today. Though it fits better now, it leaves the most vulnerable parts of the device exposed. They really need to make some kind of surround to protect the frame around the screen as its basically useless without something like that. Kind of a lame excuse that it may peel the device on removal since the surround on a Blackberry is painted and the TP2 is solid plastic. Nothing to peel. It does look much better now though.

Techitrucker said:
Got the replacement today. Though it fits better now, it leaves the most vulnerable parts of the device exposed. They really need to make some kind of surround to protect the frame around the screen as its basically useless without something like that. Kind of a lame excuse that it may peel the device on removal since the surround on a Blackberry is painted and the TP2 is solid plastic. Nothing to peel. It does look much better now though.
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Damn, we must be in sync or something, got my replacement today as well, I took it to a different kiosk (closer to my home) and I explained the story to the guy and he installed my new shield for free , I also sent the incorrect shields back to Zagg for a refund (or atleast for them to de-authorize the cash they have on hold on my account). I will be complaining to the Valley Fair kiosk owner and try to get a refund for the installation at the very least for this whole fiasco.

List of All Full-Body Skin Protectors!

Please take / post pictures if you've tried some of the other brands!
In order of poll popularity thus far (as of May 7th):
Zagg Invisible Shield ($24.99)
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5941560&postcount=174 (by validis)
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Best Skins Ever ($8.00)
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-one-skin-285
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5502896&postcount=94 (My pictures!)
More Pictures:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5486242&postcount=88 (by xxlikquidxx)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5502896&postcount=94 (by Paul22000)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5510015&postcount=99 (by Paul22000)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6061257&postcount=183 (by validis)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6081332&postcount=193 (by DarkDvr)​
Phantom Skinz ($24.95)
http://phantomskinz.com/htcgooglenexusone.aspx
BodyGuardz ($24.95)
http://www.bodyguardz.com/content/accessories/1-32--2548.htm
Skinomi ($19.95)
http://www.skinomi.com/google-nexus-one-skin-protector.html
Ghost Armor ($24.99)
http://www.ghost-armor.com/google/nexusone-mobile-phone/prod_316.html

I'd look for a wrapped bottom, if you have a habit of tucking your phone into your pockets. If there are separate pieces it would start peeling in no time.

I used a skin from bestskinsever on one of my BB Curves. It lasted quite well and really protected it - just like the ones form ZAGG, but at a much cheaper price. They use essentially the same material, but they send it to you in a plain envelope rather than a custom created box with all sorts of graphics and a bottle of application liquid. Instead you download instructions from the bestskinsever web site which tell you how to make your own liquid from dish soap and water.
When I tried a ZAGG shield I found that the bottle of liquid didn't work all that well and there wasn't nearly enough anyway. For the money, I'd get a bestskinsever skin over a ZAGG, make my own liquid and use a credit card to apply it. Also, the one time I ordered from ZAGG they sent me the wrong skin and then required me to send back the wrong skin in order to get the right one - not a great CS experience given how much profit margin they have on these, they could have just sent the right product to keep a customer happy but they didn't feel the need...

flarbear said:
I used a skin from bestskinsever on one of my BB Curves. It lasted quite well and really protected it - just like the ones form ZAGG, but at a much cheaper price. They use essentially the same material, but they send it to you in a plain envelope rather than a custom created box with all sorts of graphics and a bottle of application liquid. Instead you download instructions from the bestskinsever web site which tell you how to make your own liquid from dish soap and water.
When I tried a ZAGG shield I found that the bottle of liquid didn't work all that well and there wasn't nearly enough anyway. For the money, I'd get a bestskinsever skin over a ZAGG, make my own liquid and use a credit card to apply it. Also, the one time I ordered from ZAGG they sent me the wrong skin and then required me to send back the wrong skin in order to get the right one - not a great CS experience given how much profit margin they have on these, they could have just sent the right product to keep a customer happy but they didn't feel the need...
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Interesting. I'm a bit wary of the low price, just since it's SO MUCH lower than the other 5. It makes me think that the quality isn't as good as the others, perhaps in strength of material or length of life.
I did get a chance to email Ghost Armor and here's what they said:
Dear Paul,
You actually get charged the price of the screen but receive the Full Body.
I now see that it says:
Motorola Droid Launch Special: Receive the Full Body Droid Kit for the
Price of the Screen! Save $10.00!
I don't know why it says "Motorola Droid" and not Google Nexus... but the
rest is true. You purchase the Nexus kit for the price of the screen right
now, that's all. Its a special that we have going on.
Regards,
Ghost Armor Customer Service​
Speedy reply, and good deal going on.
Now I'm thinking PhantomSkinz vs Ghost Armor since they're discounting prices at $18 (at Amazon) and $15, respectively, for a full body kit.

Added a poll!
If possible, I'd love to hear comments on why you picked the one you did (look, feel, price, customer service, etc)

I just ordered a phantom skinz
its only $16 for two... as they have a coupon right now, winter33

Clear Protector
I just purchased and installed a CLEAR PROTECTOR screen protector. I purchased it on Ebay for $9.95. I previously installed a Zagg Invisible Shield on my MyTouch 3G and it's basically the same material. What I don't like about those "Military Grade", "Helicopter Blade" materials, is that they all feel sticky when you slide your finger over them. It doesn't feel smooth at all. That makes it difficult to use the touch screen. The screen protector included with the MyTouch was great. Does anyone know where I can find one of those for the Nexus 1? Ohh, and do any of those screen protectors protect the camera? It seems like they all have cut outs, but no protection.

Remember... The PhantomSkinz offer right now is for ** 2 ** full setups. And right now you get both for $15 bucks.
I just installed the whole body protection on my N1. I think it came out nice. I took my time and used a hair dryer. I want to let it sit for the next 24 hours before "fondling" it too much.

I have used both BSE and Phantom Skinz, and by far phantom skinz are the smoothest and clearest I have ever seen. Someone at androidcommunity.com reviewed the Phantom Skinz with pics. My G1 came out just as clear as this one. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f13/phantonskins-installed-w-pics-9781/
My kit for the N1 should be here soon and I will post some pics.

Wow, it seems like PhantomSkinz is the big winner, especially at reduced price with not one, but two skins. Hard to argue against that!
But then, BSE is higher on the poll. Hmm
What's funny is that I never hear anyone say anything good about Invisible Shields.

Paul22000 said:
Wow, it seems like PhantomSkinz is the big winner, especially at reduced price with not one, but two skins. Hard to argue against that!
But then, BSE is higher on the poll. Hmm
What's funny is that I never hear anyone say anything good about Invisible Shields.
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I always had good experiences with Invisible Shield and Clear Protector (they're the same product...). I have one on my G1's screen and it's outstanding. I bought the Phantom Skinz for the G1 because I assume it's the same or similar material to IS and CP. The fact that it ran less than $6 didn't hurt either.

I used both Invisible Shield and Bodyguardz on my iPhone. Sticky screen protectors don't last forever, mostly due to corners lifting and/or lint.
When I changed my IS the skin was absolutely perfect and unmarked. Bodyguardz didn't fare so well and was noticeably scratched quickly, even though I always take great care of my devices.
Both did an excellent job of protecting the screen, not a single mark there. But I know I will go with Invisible Shield again for my Nexus - scratches on the screen protector are annoying!

BSE is awesome :] I've used it on every expensive electronic I ever had.

I bought full body wrap from Clear Freak Technologies or something like that. It cost around 15$ with shipping, but quality is sh**.

I just ordered the 2 for $16 from Phantom Skinz, will report back after the install.

zjchaser said:
I just ordered the 2 for $16 from Phantom Skinz, will report back after the install.
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I did the same. The testimonials in here sound legit. I even went on other forums and saw nothing but good things about phantom skinz. Bought today and already shipped out. Looks good so far.

well i did the special on the phantom skins too. I also ordered the hard case from amzer but realized that the hard case from them isnt shipping till the 31 of january. I dont like not having something on this to protect it. so hopefully the PS are good. These kind of kits scare me water and phone dont mix...

markimar said:
well i did the special on the phantom skins too. I also ordered the hard case from amzer but realized that the hard case from them isnt shipping till the 31 of january. I dont like not having something on this to protect it. so hopefully the PS are good. These kind of kits scare me water and phone dont mix...
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I got my PS screen-only kits y'day.. only 2 days from when I ordered. They seem like the Invisible Shield and Clear Protector's I've used before, but totally smooth. I'll probably install one tonight. Anyway, I think that plus the Amzer case should be a nice combo for protection.
My paranoid install method for wet protectors involves sealing everything but the screen with a combo of painters masking tape and plastic, lol... so it's a tad time consuming for someone as anal retentive as me.

Take some pictures if you guys can!
Also, wow @ BSE taking the lead. I'm wondering though, do people like BSE strictly because it's so much cheaper than the others?
Has anyone here used BSE and another brand, and is able to share their experiences? Especially BSE vs Phantom Skinz

I ordered a zagg on friday ill let you know how it is when i get it but my friends use them on their iphones and g1's and i like the quality and lifetime warranty is nice too.

Hate my InvisiShield!!

So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?

As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.

There would be no way for them to actually DO that. Looking at the piece you can clearly see some are too small for the areas they are trying to cover.
Ill give the skin a few weeks and see how it feels.
For those of you interested here are some photos from the other thread that explain what I mean PERFECTLY
http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one

Well, as far as the screen protector size... EVERY stick-on protector is short. I'm guessing they all used the same template before the phone came out and are too lazy to change it.

I thought it was supposed to be invisible?

On all my previous phone, 4 so far, i used Invisible Shield, all installed on my own, and had always recommended it frens. So naturally i ordered InvisibleShield before i ordered my N1.
Previously InvisibleShield shipping was fast, this time round Nexus One came first and the shield came nearly 2 weeks after that. I never use the phone till the shield came, since i still had my old phone.
The InvisibleShield was PITA to install, the corners was not covered (as usual), the fit sucks!, Alot of big gaps here and there, i tried installing it 4-5 times, no matter how i tried i was not happy with the fit and quality.
So i return them for a refund, I needed a skin badly so i google around and read on several forums to find a better replacement.
I found BestSkinsEver, read alot of gd reviews on it, but was skeptical since the price was way cheaper then other full body skin out there.
When it arrives, i was abit disappointed. It came in a small envelope, whereas Zagg came with cardboard box with application pad and stuff. So i followed the online instruction on how to install BSE, i was amaze at how easy it was to install!
Other then mixing your own application liquid, the fit was great. I installed it once and it fit perfect!!! Very minimal bubbles, all the corners were covered!!! I did not use the screen protector though, since i prefered matt ones, easier to use Swype with.
Its been more then a month since i used BSE, still looks great. Corners not lifting, no signs of dirt trap on the sides, a prob i use always have with Zagg.
I highly recommend BSE, cheaper, fits great, cover corners, easy to install and also very enviromental friendly shipping package.

ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin

jcohenlv said:
So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
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100% spot on.
I just bought the screen shield part, and it looked like goat crap, and it wass tacky as hell. The fit was poor because it's too floppy to align, the bubbles that are supposed to go away after 24 hours didn't and there were areas around the edges that didn't stay down.
I hated it, ripped it off the phone after the 25th hour and I'll badmouth those crappy shields for the rest of my life, or until I can't remember what a Nexus One was anymore. A warranty of a lifetime replacement of goat poop is worthless to me. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
I ended up buying a Seidio case for it - it's nice and easy to remove. I will look into another brand of screen protector. I don't care if they don't last forever - if it goes a day without looking like crap it's way ahead of a Zagg. I guess when it looks that bad to begin with, you can't really tell when it's degrading too easily.
Bottom line - and I have seen a lot of them since, is that they are ALL tacky, they ALL look like crap and the ALL introduce tons of artifacts to the screen.
Buyer beware - there is no money back on these.
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ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin
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I did. It was still an awful pile of crap on my screen after 24 hours - and I let it sit. It was the first time I didn't have to charge a battery in a while.
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I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
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That was a joke, right?

Meh. Zagg makes good products overall... But the FIT on the N1 is absolutely atrocious. I will gladly buy a custom zaggskin if they can get a proper fit... I just emailed them to request information on possible plans to change their design for better corner coverage, or any other options they might be able to offer.
I'm not expecting anything in regards to getting a skin from them... But I'll hope nonetheless. (I would buy BSE, but I'd REALLY love to have a custom design if Zagg can answer my request.)

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As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.

I bought one for my Zune 120 and installed the back and didn't bother installing the rest of it. Ended up taking it off the back. I will never buy any more of these "cover all" device covers again.

another thing that that might not be evident right away is that crud sticks to the outer edges of these types of screen protectors i had this on two non touch screen phones and didn't mind it except for the gummy crap that i'd be peeling away from the edges all the time.

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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
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Ok, then allow me to clarify. It DOES clear up if you install it properly. I've been using Zagg or Zagg-like products since I had my T-mobile Dash. It's just like installing window tint... if you're completely haphazard with it, it will look like crap. But in all the ones I've applied, they've all LOOKED great, aside from the orange peel effect that's evident on just about all the skin-type products. The best that I have used thus far is Clear Protector. I've had their screen protector on my G1 for almost 9 months and it looks perfect still.
Also, it (and the others) was tacky coming from just the glass screen at first. Over time the CP on the G1 has gotten MUCH smoother and less sticky. I suspect a small amount of this change is really just me getting used to the film and forgetting how smooth the glass is on its own (I remember when I took the last Zagg off my G1 prior to the CP and being surprised at how much more slick it felt), but I have compared it to one of my fresher installs and there's a noticeable difference.
Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.

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Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.

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you're ... wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.

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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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While I agree, Zagg isn't the best out there, I can guarantee there are at least a couple that are worse! Anyway, there is enough competition and alternatives to never have to buy either of those brands, including Zagg.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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I agree with your initial comment... and on a continuum of various subjective outcomes, I'd hardly say Zagg looks like crap. Ghost Armor is the worst I've found....yellowing after only a couple months. I'm sure others are also pretty crappy in comparison since the number of knockoffs is staggering. That being said, there are many products superior to the Zagg as well. Clear Protector, PhantomSkinz, BSE, etc.
I should clarify, contrary to what it seems you guys think, that I was never totally happy with the InvisibleSHIELD. I much preferred the Clear Protector on my G1...and on my N1, I am thoroughly happy with the dcmugen88 static screen protectors. So if I came off as a gung-ho Zagg fan... I'm not. I do think they're overpriced (seriously, $15 for just a screen protector is retarded), and there are better alternatives for less.
The point I was trying to get across, which everyone seems hellbent on disputing is that how good you are at installing makes a difference, sometimes all the difference. I can install at least the screen protector portions of these skin-type products with my eyes closed and the next day you won't even see them on there...I'm sure others can too cuz it's not rocketscience. On the other hand, I'm sure some of you don't have the patience or skill to get it looking that good either... just the way things are. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, if you guys want a great screen protector, I've been saying for over a month to go with dcmugen88... exactly the same as the Seidio product at a fraction of the price...or if you want a skin, get the BSE (Best Skins Ever) product. Paul22000's installation pics are proof positive that it's the best skin for our phones.

Well, I stand corrected. Evidently, there is an avenue for a partial refund. I say partial because the buyer is on the hook for shipping the entire package back to Zagg, and that's not free. You also need to get it done within 45 days and have your original sales receipt.
In the end, you can get SOME money back in exchange for a boatload more effort than it's worth. Still, I'd rather give the post office some money and Zagg zip, zilch, nada - so I'll be enduring the aggravation of the pursuit of a refund on general principle.
Update: After two days, I got an email back from Zagg effectively saying they don't refund items they didn't sell directly. This is not a returnable item from the retailer I bought it from - so I am back to getting even more camel dung for my money - or nothing. I choose nothing and a lesson learned.

attn1 said:
That was a joke, right?
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.

rotohammer said:
Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Well, you forgot to say "bazinga!"

Ok so its been 4 days ......
Case is still Tacky, not as bad as day 1 but still tacky!
Orange peel effect on the screen has not cleared up!
Dust and gunk are starting to build up on the edges and its been in the micro fiber bag since I bought it..... what a POS.
If you say the orange peel affect is from "poor installation" I will laugh my butt off. This was installed BY A ZAGG REP IN A ZAGG STORE! So don't give me crap about "poor installation"
I have decided to make a compromise on this. I am going to keep the full body and just replace the screen protector portion of it. I cant stand the way it affects the way it makes the screen more difficult to type on. So now I am looking for a good CLEAR screen protector.
Any recommendations?

Review/Pics: Skinomi carbon fiber skin, tab & dock

Got my Skinomi skins today and after applying I have to say I'm impressed. I was eager to see if it would fit in the dock with it on too, and it does. It's just a little tight but it does fit fine.
When the skin arrives it comes shipped in a tube, since it's rolled up in the tube the ends of the skin want to peel up. If it was rolled the other way it would of been much better. After learning from the tablet skin I re-rolled the dock skin the other way and put it back in the tube for 30 minutes or so and that helped.
My advice when putting the skin on is to only use the application fluid on the large main skin parts (top for the tab and bottom for the dock), and be sure NOT to get any fluid on the small edging/side parts of the skin. Once the main back part is on, bubble free and aligned it will be easy to stick down the sides if there's no fluid on them. In my case I put the fluid all over and the smaller side parts kept peeling themselves up and it took a lot of holding down till they were stuck (the whole process took me about an hour for the tablet).
Lesson learned, on the dock skin I only used a small amount of fluid on the main bottom part and none on the little parts and it was a much faster process. Using a hair dryer will aide in the drying time and also makes the skin more malleable so it doesn't want to peel itself back.
The tablet skin comes with a clear screen protector that I'm not using. I use an anti-glare screen protector (3 pack available on Amazon for $14.95) and I like this set up a lot. A few other reviews for this skin said because the clear screen protector is a bit sticky when you close the tab the screen sticks to the skin on the dock and it cause bubbles in the screen. With the very non-sticky screen protector I have, this isn't an issue.
All-in-all I'm impressed with the skin. It's a very tough vinyl, has a great texture to it (actually feels like carbon fiber and makes for a nice feel in the hand) and provides good coverage on almost all of the tablet and dock.
The only down side is the set up (especially if you use a different screen protector) is a little pricy... But, if you want to protect your tablet and dock while making the setup look bad @ss this is the way to go!!
UPDATE: A small part of the corner of the skin (a very thin strip that covers the corner on the top of the tablet) came off, was torn by the case. I contacted Skinomi as the skin has a lifetime warranty and they're sending me a whole new skin for free. Prompt customer service too. Good company...
Links:
Tablet skin on Amazon, $26.94 with shipping
Dock skin on Amazon, $18.94 with shipping.
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If anyone wants pics of any specific part of the tab or dock to see exact fitting just let me know and I'll take it and post here!

how do you feel about this vs a case? if you were to drop this i dont see where it would help. its more for scratch proofing ?

Crizthakidd said:
how do you feel about this vs a case? if you were to drop this i dont see where it would help. its more for scratch proofing ?
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This would do absolutely nothing in the event of a drop!! lol. But, I don't like to always have my tablet in a case and this will help prevent scratches when I'm using it around the house out of the case (sometimes I take the tablet with me while it's docked too and I only have a neoprene case for this, this skin helps once I pull out the tablet in this situation). Great scratch protection, no protection for drops... And it looks cool, and feels cool, and is cool

lol ugh maybe you can help me decide between this skin and these 2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088IA9PC/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Transformer-Infinity-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B008LM04T6
i have the dock, but do not care about protecting it, dont have a screen protector, just want a case for when i take the tablet out to school or meetings

Crizthakidd said:
lol ugh maybe you can help me decide between this skin and these 2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088IA9PC/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Transformer-Infinity-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B008LM04T6
I have the dock, but do not care about protecting it, dont have a screen protector, just want a case for when i take the tablet out to school or meetings
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I have a case very similar to the Poetic case (2nd link) although it doesn't rotate. I didn't need to rotate the screen as I rarely use it in portrait mode and wanted as slim a case as I could get. I got the Blurex Slim Folio Case on Amazon for $21.99 and I think it's a great case! Slim, good fit, and I think it provides about as much protection as you can get with a case of this nature.
I actually have the 1st case you linked to on order, it will be here tomorrow. Not so sure about it but I guess I'll find out tomorrow. I'll update this reply once it gets in!
UPDATE: Got the Poetic Tablet/Dock case today and I like it. It does add a LOT of thickness to the whole setup but it provides good coverage and I like the little pockets for business cards and other notes. It also has two pen holders (good for styli). Looks professional too. If you don't mind a thick setup I'd recommend this case!

Thanks for the review. After debating for some time, I ended up ordering the brushed steel one. I hope it looks decent

How does it feel when holding the tablet(without the dock)? Does it feel like it might peel where you hold it on the edges?

AspenMan said:
This would do absolutely nothing in the event of a drop!! lol. But, I don't like to always have my tablet in a case and this will help prevent scratches when I'm using it around the house out of the case (sometimes I take the tablet with me while it's docked too and I only have a neoprene case for this, this skin helps once I pull out the tablet in this situation). Great scratch protection, no protection for drops... And it looks cool, and feels cool, and is cool
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ACTUALLY....it will do alot of good in a drop. The innitial impact won't be saved, however when you drop something it usually bounces and/or slides. The full skins will mitigate most of the damage from all the scuffs, dings, and scratches that come after the initial impact. I dropped my Galaxy Note and the corner has a pretty good ding, but the skin was skuffed to hell and looked like ****. I was ticked that my phone looked like it was worn as a shoe down a gravel road. I peeled the skin off and was taken back at the fact that there wasnt a single mark on it other then the corner where it landed. I immediately ordered a new skin from ArmorSuit telling them it saved my phone, they refunded the purchase I just made and sent me one for free telling me they were glad it worked and the lifetime warranty covered it. The only reason my tf700 doesnt have a full skin yet is because I use the rooCase snap on that is a little too tight. Full skins pay you back exponentially when the day comes to sell it and you peel it off to see nearly brand new device.

Does the skin cover the sharp edges of the tab next to the bezel ? I can't really find out from the pics I've seen.
I find the tab quite uncomfortable to hold for a long while because of those rather nasty edges...
Thanks.

My Skinomi Clear Skin arrived today but I'm not going to install it yet. I'm going to send my tablet for repair or swap for new unit because of bad quality on glass/screen installation on lower left corner...

dalingrin said:
How does it feel when holding the tablet(without the dock)? Does it feel like it might peel where you hold it on the edges?
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It doesn't feel like it will peel but the edges are just a little rough. I don't find it to be a big deal and now that I've had it on for a day I've come to really, really like it. Feels solid and is very "grippy".

fntms said:
Does the skin cover the sharp edges of the tab next to the bezel ? I can't really find out from the pics I've seen.
I find the tab quite uncomfortable to hold for a long while because of those rather nasty edges...
Thanks.
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It doesn't cover the sharp sides around the bezel, doesn't quite reach around far enough.

Do they sell the skin for the dock alone. I already have a zagg shield for the tablet.

Eroc162 said:
Do they sell the skin for the dock alone. I already have a zagg shield for the tablet.
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They do, link is in the review but here it is again: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ZPPDFG/
Right now you can only buy them separately. I have the TF201 dock, not sure if the TF700 will be any different size wise once it's released (doubt it).

I just ordered this based on your review, thanks, though shipping could take a while. How is the bundled screen protector? I had skinomi on my atrix, and was impressed, but that wasn't a high res screen, so any blur was unnoticeable. Is it a good clear cover, or does brightness and clarity take a hit? Thanks
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wow these are beautiful skins...but god damn cant get them shipped to canada!!! grrrrrrrrrr we always have to be left out

I just ordered a tf201 skinomi dock skin in clear for my tf700 dock on ebay. Skinomi sells them on ebay $16. Anybody have a Zagg screen saver and a dock. How does the Zagg fit? Does it look like it will peel off the Zagg over time. I have the Zagg here waiting for my replacement to arrive and wondering if I should cut a section out where the dock's padding touches the screen. The last thing I want is for the cushions to peel off.
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I installed the tf201 dock skinomi cover and it fit fine. Its a pain in the neck to get it right though. seems thinner then the Zagg.

I installed the brushed steel one today on my TF700 and it looks stunning (it even have textured feel to it). The installation was painless and took only few minutes. I have not yet installed it on the dock (dock is still sealed) but from the various cutouts, it look like it will be trickier to install than the tablet.
On the other hand, I did not like the screen protector that came with it. It was pain to align correctly and even after taking out all water from underneath, it still has a lot of water streaks. According to the instructions, they are supposed to go away after couple of days so I will wait and see. My recent experience with another wet application screen protector was ArmourSuit for Nexus 7 and it was a breeze to install and it was completely clear within few minutes.

Installed the dock screen yesterday and I still have micro bubbles. Not as much as I had yesterday but still have them non the less. No biggie. Its definitely attaches alot quicker than Zagg. I tell you what, I'm happy I don't have to do it again lol.
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ajamils said:
I installed the brushed steel one today on my TF700 and it looks stunning (it even have textured feel to it). The installation was painless and took only few minutes. I have not yet installed it on the dock (dock is still sealed) but from the various cutouts, it look like it will be trickier to install than the tablet.
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The dock is actually easier. The part I found hard was the small parts of the tablet skin on the side/top/bottom kept wanting to peel themselves back and it took a lot of holding it in place while drying. The dock I would only use a small amount of the fluid on the main piece and just stick on all the small pieces, it's easy and nothing wants to peel itself back.
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On the other hand, I did not like the screen protector that came with it. It was pain to align correctly and even after taking out all water from underneath, it still has a lot of water streaks. According to the instructions, they are supposed to go away after couple of days so I will wait and see. My recent experience with another wet application screen protector was ArmourSuit for Nexus 7 and it was a breeze to install and it was completely clear within few minutes.
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I don't plan on using the screen protector, don't like the feel of it and I prefer anti-glare. I used a similar one on my Xoom and it took almost a week for the streaks to clear and even then it didn't look very good. I also read another review that said the screen protector will stick to the skin on the dock and cause bubbles to form. The anti-glare screen protector I use isn't sticky at all and I don't have this issue (Poetic anti-glare screen protectors - 3 pack, $14.95 on Amazon)

Skyrocket Defender Series Case Review!

Hey guys I just received my Skyrocket Defend case! Right when I got the package that was shipped out to me, I tore open the box to find the most beautiful case ever!!
Things I love about this case:
1. Sturdy
2. Built in screen protector
3. Belt clip, very useful for me since I drive a Ninja 650R around Fort Worth so I just clip it on my vest and connect my head phones to it and im good!
4. Outter gives out a free 1 year guarantee replacement with your purchase.
5. you can use the belt clip as a freaking stand so you can watch videos or whatever on a flat surface!
Things I dont like:
1. Freaking huge! I wear slim straight legged pants so its a little hard to get it in and out some times, its not that bad though.
2. The belt clip dose not seem that sturdy, there was times I thought it would fly off my vest, or off my belt lol. One time I got out of my 370z and it got caught on the seat belt and it fell off :/
3. The built in screen protector smudges easily, and can be blurry, or reflect a lot of light for me.
In all I have loved this case! it was a $50 price tag but honestly it was worth it! I recommended getting this case! :good::good::good:
If any of you guys have this case what do you think about it?
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I love my Defender, but stopped using it because it was just too bulky for everyday use. There are two key problems with the Defender, aside from its size. One is the built-in screen protector. It blurs the image slightly and desensitizes the touchscreen, but more importantly, it actually traps dirt and dust beneath it, which could potentially scratch your screen. The built-in screen protector will lift any adhered protector right off. Fortunately, this is easy to solve, as the built-in screen protector comes right off with minimal effort.
Second, and a bigger issue, is that the plastic inner shell can scratch and damage your phone. There's no way around this, and it's a risk you take by using the Defender instead of a case with soft material hugging the phone and plastic outside.
The third issue for me was heat--the Defender was not allowing sufficient heat to escape, and my phone was constantly running hotter than it needed to. This eventually has an adverse effect on battery life, maybe even the phone itself. Taking the built-in screen protector off will probably help out tremendously here.
Also, $50? You can get them for $30 off of Amazon easily.
It's not something that I foresee myself using on a daily, even near-daily basis by any means, but it does have its uses. It's about as indestructible as cases come, and that's saying something. But as a casual daily case, it's too big and bulky. I'll use my silicone/plastic hybrid or a TPU for that.

T.J. Bender said:
I love my Defender, but stopped using it because it was just too bulky for everyday use. There are two key problems with the Defender, aside from its size. One is the built-in screen protector. It blurs the image slightly and desensitizes the touchscreen, but more importantly, it actually traps dirt and dust beneath it, which could potentially scratch your screen. The built-in screen protector will lift any adhered protector right off. Fortunately, this is easy to solve, as the built-in screen protector comes right off with minimal effort.
Second, and a bigger issue, is that the plastic inner shell can scratch and damage your phone. There's no way around this, and it's a risk you take by using the Defender instead of a case with soft material hugging the phone and plastic outside.
The third issue for me was heat--the Defender was not allowing sufficient heat to escape, and my phone was constantly running hotter than it needed to. This eventually has an adverse effect on battery life, maybe even the phone itself. Taking the built-in screen protector off will probably help out tremendously here.
Also, $50? You can get them for $30 off of Amazon easily.
It's not something that I foresee myself using on a daily, even near-daily basis by any means, but it does have its uses. It's about as indestructible as cases come, and that's saying something. But as a casual daily case, it's too big and bulky. I'll use my silicone/plastic hybrid or a TPU for that.
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I see what you mean, so if I wanted a real screen protector do you think I should take this one off and buy a real one to put with this case?
Thank you very much for you opinion, I wanted to hear from someone who has good experience with it and you nailed it!

IAmReflex said:
I see what you mean, so if I wanted a real screen protector do you think I should take this one off and buy a real one to put with this case?
Thank you very much for you opinion, I wanted to hear from someone who has good experience with it and you nailed it!
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Yep, either pop the built-in screen protector out or cut it with a razor blade/x-acto knife. Have an adhesive screen protector (a high-quality one, like an Invisible Shield) put on, then let it cure for 24 hours before putting the Defender on. You should be set.

T.J. Bender said:
Yep, either pop the built-in screen protector out or cut it with a razor blade/x-acto knife. Have an adhesive screen protector (a high-quality one, like an Invisible Shield) put on, then let it cure for 24 hours before putting the Defender on. You should be set.
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I see! Well thanks a lot! The size is no problem with me, and I have not yet seen any temp change with this on my phone (YET)

I've had my Defender since January. I have the same problems as previously mentioned. I always have to take it out of the case, and clean the case and the screen.
I've had problems with the rubber part coming off of the edges; it just doesn't hug the plastic as well as it did out of the box. I've also had 2 of the clips break. They appear to be pretty fragile, so it may have been from a drop. I'm considering contacting Otterbox and attempting to get a replacement. I've heard they have great customer service.
But regardless of all that, it still protects my phone. I'm almost certain that if it wasn't for this case, I would have a cracked screen, instead of a damaged case. And although this case is rather large, I would rather have a working protected phone, than a sleek broke one.
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eagle0042 said:
I've had my Defender since January. I have the same problems as previously mentioned. I always have to take it out of the case, and clean the case and the screen.
I've had problems with the rubber part coming off of the edges; it just doesn't hug the plastic as well as it did out of the box. I've also had 2 of the clips break. They appear to be pretty fragile, so it may have been from a drop. I'm considering contacting Otterbox and attempting to get a replacement. I've heard they have great customer service.
But regardless of all that, it still protects my phone. I'm almost certain that if it wasn't for this case, I would have a cracked screen, instead of a damaged case. And although this case is rather large, I would rather have a working protected phone, than a sleek broke one.
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Couldent put it any better! I'm not clumsy with my phone, but when I do drop it I want to make sure its not gonna break.
I also heard they have really good service, at least I know I will have protection for a year. I'm sure I will have a note 2 or a S3 by then

Just wait, on the top, where the headphone jack is, those two plastic pieces will rub on the phone and will actually start making grooves in the trim of your phone, like it did on mine. I was very upset by this, as well as the fact that it ended up scratching my screen from the debris that would get caught behind the built in screen protector. I found that this case actually damaged my phone more than it protected it. I hate it! Due to the negative experience i had with this case, I will never buy an Otterbox case again. Instead, I'm using a fishbone case that I got for 7.99 on amazon. i've used it for quite a few months now and have not had a single problem or complaint. it's the best case i've ever used. It fully protects my device because it has soft silicone on the interior and hard plastic on the exterior in the places that matter, like the corners.

I do find it interesting how polarizing the Defender is. It's the Juice Defender of cases--everyone either loves it or hates it. You don't really see that reaction about any other case.

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Just wait, on the top, where the headphone jack is, those two plastic pieces will rub on the phone and will actually start making grooves in the trim of your phone, like it did on mine. I was very upset by this, as well as the fact that it ended up scratching my screen from the debris that would get caught behind the built in screen protector. I found that this case actually damaged my phone more than it protected it. I hate it! Due to the negative experience i had with this case, I will never buy an Otterbox case again. Instead, I'm using a fishbone case that I got for 7.99 on amazon. i've used it for quite a few months now and have not had a single problem or complaint. it's the best case i've ever used. It fully protects my device because it has soft silicone on the interior and hard plastic on the exterior in the places that matter, like the corners.
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Lol so is my otter box going to destroy my phone!

IAmReflex said:
Lol so is my otter box going to destroy my phone!
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It won't destroy it, but it may scratch it up.

T.J. Bender said:
It won't destroy it, but it may scratch it up.
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Lol oh I see, ehh well I'm not go bothered by that lol

might as well my 2 cents...ive had the otterbox defender for a few months now and so far i like it. I also have a commuter but needed a a case with a holster. I like the fact that I can use it as a stand but yout have to turn it upside down to use it...also the latch that holds the clip I have cracked already. also the corners are slightly flared where i have removed it only maybe once or twice...its the same on my commuter where its slighly stretched...other than that I love my case...since i bought it off amazon i may have to see about getting it exchanged thru otterbox.

How big is the phone with the case?

rabbivj said:
might as well my 2 cents...ive had the otterbox defender for a few months now and so far i like it. I also have a commuter but needed a a case with a holster. I like the fact that I can use it as a stand but yout have to turn it upside down to use it...also the latch that holds the clip I have cracked already. also the corners are slightly flared where i have removed it only maybe once or twice...its the same on my commuter where its slighly stretched...other than that I love my case...since i bought it off amazon i may have to see about getting it exchanged thru otterbox.
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im sure they would definitely replace your case.
Gnator said:
How big is the phone with the case?
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And its pretty big, but to me its the perfect size, fits well in my hand and snug in my pocket. There is pictures in the OP of the phone in the case.
Edit: I also wanted to say that I did take off the built in screen protector, it drove me crazy after a while. I went out and bought a really nice protector and works perfectly with the case.