Bit of an odd problem.
I have 3D acceleration enabled, and the carousel works absolutely spot on, even with the Gsensor! But there is a 3D accelerated message viewer that was active when I had MS3.5.1 installed (with the registry mods and chainfire HD2 graphics driver crack) that isnt active in MS3.5.3. It just has the non accelerated message viewer which looks a little naff. Has anyone else come across this problem? Tried emailing SPB about it, but theyre next to useless.
Thanks in advance
strike-down said:
Bit of an odd problem.
I have 3D acceleration enabled, and the carousel works absolutely spot on, even with the Gsensor! But there is a 3D accelerated message viewer that was active when I had MS3.5.1 installed (with the registry mods and chainfire HD2 graphics driver crack) that isnt active in MS3.5.3. It just has the non accelerated message viewer which looks a little naff. Has anyone else come across this problem? Tried emailing SPB about it, but theyre next to useless.
Thanks in advance
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Have you tried uninstall SPB and re-install it again? This might help
Tried that, and even gone as far as a hard reset, and made no difference
Hi,
have you tried the Chainfire HD2 2d Driver Patch?
I installed it and it seems the grafic performances increased.
The drive i think can be found somewhere here in the forum.
Sorry about this imprecise information, but i actually don't know where i found the file
msdirektor
Is this what you need?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663
Works like a charm
If I needed that, then why would the carousel be working perfectly?? I did use that when I used spb ms3.5.1 to get that to render smoothly, but its not needed with spb ms3.5.3.
Thanks for your input this far
Anything 3D, you need that driver, its the only thing that will enable you to get any 3D performance out of this phone
3D performance of my tg01 is fine without the driver patch at the moment. NFS runs fine, the 3D accelerated carousel of ms3.5.3 runs at a decent framerate. Its just the message viewer does not open the openGL accelerated viewer, just the standard non-accelerated viewer
Is there a registry entry that would allow you to enable it?
Been looking through all the registry entries and could not find a single entry that affects only the message viewer. I know its not critical, but its bugging me
hi all,
i have the same problem, carousel works great but message is laggy.
would the brute power of the phone be enough for a smooth carousel being that its a fullscreen thing where as the 3d message app isnt so it doeant get the same prority as the carousel.
make sense? if im wrong then fair dos
SPB have finally told me that they dont officially support 3D effects on the TG01 which is why the message viewer doesnt have 3D acceleration, but i find it odd how the carousel works perfectly, and supports the TG01 Gsensor???
could it just be a happy glitch with the support from m$ drivers and the combination of hardware/software?
is the 3d message viewer a seperate app ( i think it might be), then we could recompile it using the carousel as a base, personally scrolling through sms and emails in a carousel form would be cool, better than flipping it up.
it would maintain contuniuity with the phone as well
also, if the g-sensor works with the carousel then maybe we could adapt that so if you flick the handset left or right the screen would respond and change messages left and right
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I don't know much about TouchFLO and how much resources it would take up if I use it. I wanna cook it into a ROM but I... well... I just don't know if it's really worth it.
I'm using Slide2Unlock, ContactsManager, iPhone Lookalike, and even the iPhone_en phone skin. I'm doing this to prove to friends that you don't really need an iPhone to really get the awesome feeling.
So basically, TouchFLO is the last frontier (for now I guess). So guys, give me some feedback on resources, looks, feels, and what I should embrace or get ready for...
... I'm scared...
I have a Touch. All the TouchFLO apps are loaded at start up via \Windows\Startup and stay resident:
- biotouch.exe (behind-the-scenes app to activate/deactivate cube)
- APlauncher.exe (face of the cube that launches apps)
- MediaHubMini.exe (face of the cube that launches media apps/folders)
- QuickDial.exe (face of the cube for picture dialling)
I haven't done any tests on how much memory they use up, but odds-on it's a fair old whack. The UI seems to come up fairly quickly when I smear my thumb up the screen, so I'm guessing that they've tweaked the priority of the processes up a fair bit.
On the plus side, if it can run on a 201MHz OMAP, it can pretty much run on anything!
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I have a Touch. All the TouchFLO apps are loaded at start up via \Windows\Startup and stay resident:
- biotouch.exe (behind-the-scenes app to activate/deactivate cube)
- APlauncher.exe (face of the cube that launches apps)
- MediaHubMini.exe (face of the cube that launches media apps/folders)
- QuickDial.exe (face of the cube for picture dialling)
I haven't done any tests on how much memory they use up, but odds-on it's a fair old whack. The UI seems to come up fairly quickly when I smear my thumb up the screen, so I'm guessing that they've tweaked the priority of the processes up a fair bit.
On the plus side, if it can run on a 201MHz OMAP, it can pretty much run on anything!
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True. No offense meant mate, but 201Meg OMAPs are rather slow. Most other procs out there are faster, if not MUCH faster. However, some devices are still having difficulty porting the finger gestures. Zephus mate, what device are you using?
my apologies. Your using an 8125. Didn't notice that
Just remember the HTC Touch uses the 200M OMAP processor.
Well then doesn't seem like there would be much of a problem with overclocking a Wizard to >200. But I'm not really looking to use the cube, rather I just want to use finger scrolling and such around other pages. I believe TouchFLO allows that (I could be wrong...) but I'll try the cube anyway.
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Well then doesn't seem like there would be much of a problem with overclocking a Wizard to >200. But I'm not really looking to use the cube, rather I just want to use finger scrolling and such around other pages. I believe TouchFLO allows that (I could be wrong...) but I'll try the cube anyway.
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No siree. the finger scrolling is controlled by the touch.dll file in the windows folder. I am attaching it here, throw it in your windows folder and see if it works. if it doesnt, install the 4 exes and that should work but you do need touch.dll
as for the cube, I have a 8125 and the cubeis a bit laggy at reg speeds but if you use the dynamic oc from batterystatus ext and set to 247, the cube flows like it does on the touch.
let me figure out how to attach a file and youll have it in a second.
heres the touch.cab so you can install the whole package at once
and just the dll, throw it in your windows folder before you install the cab, soft reset and see if the scrolling starts working. if not, install the cab
Now scared of overwriting touch.
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and just the dll, throw it in your windows folder before you install the cab, soft reset and see if the scrolling starts working. if not, install the cab
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Well actually, I just can't seem to overwrite it just yet, not until I use Total Commander, but thanks though. This seems helpful to at least try it out until I cook it.
Yeah, touch.dll killed my screen on my Wizard. Had to "Clear Storage" to get it back up again. And the .cab with TouchFLO didn't contain the cube unfortunately. Oh well...
I'll just cook it as an experiment. Face my fears.
usually with activesync you can overwrite but if you got it workin there you go
I've been hearing reports from people with the Kaiser, that using SPB Shell V2.0 totally solved all lag problems when switching between different menu windows, and the device runs extremely smooth and stable (to the point it's hard to believe it doesn't have hardware video acceleration).
Can the same be said about the Touch Cruise ?
Can you post link? I might be able to work something out.
I have SPB Shell V2.0 on my Touch Cruise, and it's working extremely smooth. The response of the touchscreen is very good and the menu's are extremely smooth.
Is it possible to dissable HTC Home?
radem205 said:
I have SPB Shell V2.0 on my Touch Cruise, and it's working extremely smooth. The response of the touchscreen is very good and the menu's are extremely smooth.
Is it possible to dissable HTC Home?
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Yes, it's the same as all other plugins - setting > today
Here is a link for the SPB Shell 2.0 download page:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/download.html?en
Please post your impressions with the touch cruise.
I've been running Mobile Shell 2 for a few days now - very sleek, fast, and...well, it just looks cool.
Disabled the Touch Cube, but I'd also like to disable the HTC LargeTitleBar feature (not the start menu, but the large icons when you click on the volume and phone status icons on the top title bar) Anyone have a clue?
I found a registry setting for LargeTitleBar (HKLM/Services I think), even had an "enable" flag, but setting it to 0 had no effect. It also had a delay option, but I couldn't get it to delay opening either (tried 1, 8, 500 as values).
Anyway, Moble Shell 2 doesn't seem to conflict with any of the Touchflo features, even the cube.
I have only good experience with Mobile Shell. Very fast, smooth and sleek. It's a must for everyone with the Touch Cruise, no compatibility problems.
I tried the trial version of the last V2 version and I am impressed It's rocks! Eye candy, smooth, fast, practical, . It smells good and optimised code, really. You can throw away your cube..
I just have to find a way to make it launches my Agenda One calendar functions instead of defaults windows mobile one.
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I tried the trial version of the last V2 version and I am impressed It's rocks! Eye candy, smooth, fast, practical, . It smells good and optimised code, really. You can throw away your cube..
I just have to find a way to make it launches my Agenda One calendar functions instead of defaults windows mobile one.
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Agenda One provides .lnk files for each function in the application. The Sbp Menu gives the opportunity to add items, so maybe you can add each of those links.
I uninstalled M.S. yesterday. While Shell offered some nice functions, it just seemed an unnecessary addition over TouchFlo. I did like the dialer app however. I think that if Spb could enforce the Now screen over the standard Today screen, it would help .
The 3D driver of the Samsung Omnia was extracted and posted here on the Kaiser forum a few weeks ago. I decided to give it a try and it's amazing.
Mobile Shell is a lot more fluid and TF3D is more fluid (especially scrolling).
Grab it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416474
I'm installing as we speak will post results tomorrow
I don't find it any faster... I think the speed in scrolling speed is because it skips some frames and when performing upward gesture in Home screen the clock animation lacks a bit.
However a couple of VGA games I tried seems better now...
marios96 said:
I don't find it any faster... I think the speed in scrolling speed is because it skips some frames and when performing upward gesture in Home screen the clock animation lacks a bit.
However a couple of VGA games I tried seems better now...
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For me the scrolling in the picture and programs tab is a lot smoother.
wait....i thought the diamond and the TP HAD the drivers missing from the kaiser/mogul???....
yerp said:
wait....i thought the diamond and the TP HAD the drivers missing from the kaiser/mogul???....
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I thought the same thing, but these drivers seem to pump up performance.
spb animations seem better to me as well.
Just try the also provided Omnia 3D examples and you will see that the drivers make your 3D performance slower!
TDO
Agreed ive also tried this driver (whilst developing the elite stuff) and found performance to be reduced, a simple benchmark in TCPMP/Coreplayer will show this.
Delve deeper if you feel like it with spb-benchmark as I havent looked at it yet, the TP and Diamond have thier own drivers already cooked into the ROMs so there really isnt any need afaik. Perhaps on other devices it may make a difference so dont rule out it improving devices like the kaiser or polaris for example.
TDO said:
Just try the also provided Omnia 3D examples and you will see that the drivers make your 3D performance slower!
TDO
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check Text3D app on my device it's a big difference
also Billboard app is running slower with omnia drivers
the main difference is not in speed, but in image quality
melcul said:
check Text3D app on my device it's a big difference
also Billboard app is running slower with omnia drivers
the main difference is not in speed, but in image quality
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A simple software based renderer can render AMAZING 3D images .... sacrificing speed surely the intention of a tweak is to improve quality without slowing down the FPS and vice versa??
I've put my touch pro with this drivers head to head with a diamond with the HTC's drivers. All samsung 3D demos run with the same speed on both devices, but the quality on Touch Pro was much better. The tiger was more realistic, you couldn'see the lighting in the Lighting demo in Diamond and you couldn't read anything in the 3d Text. Billboard however run slower (a lot slower) on touch pro...
I don't know ofcourse how trustworthy are this results, as samsung demos should work better with samsung drivers.
And let's not forget that Qualcomm is Samsung after all.
Wouldn't surprise me if they release better drivers for their inhouse machines.
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I've put my touch pro with this drivers head to head with a diamond with the HTC's drivers. All samsung 3D demos run with the same speed on both devices, but the quality on Touch Pro was much better. The tiger was more realistic, you couldn'see the lighting in the Lighting demo in Diamond and you couldn't read anything in the 3d Text. Billboard however run slower (a lot slower) on touch pro...
I don't know ofcourse how trustworthy are this results, as samsung demos should work better with samsung drivers.
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nice reviews ...
if only we could find a general type of tests to perform, then we could deduce or conclude much better for the 2 drivers ...
I have the impression everything runs a bit smoother with these drivers. e.g. scrolling within resco explorer...
Ok, ran some more test.
- Uninstalled the drivers, softreset
- Mobile shell gets choppier again, really the difference is there, the animation of the "cubes" coming out is a lot smoother with the drivers installed
- Scrolling trough "pictures" in TF3D goes slower
- Scrolling trough "programs" in TF3D is slower (not the "all programs" but in the shortcuts)
- 3D test apps, everything running smooth but in lower quality, text not readable on the 3D text and lights not visible on the "lights" app.
- Reinstalled the drivers, softreset
- Mobile shell animations a lot smoother
- Scrolling trough pictures and programs, again smoother, the menus of TF3D come up smoother too.
- 3D test apps: Billboard going slower, the rest smooth and higher quality, lot more details. Overall nicer looking. Text readable on "3D text" and light visible on the "lights" app
So if i get this right: these drivers seem to enable better 3D software acceleration and that works well as long as the hardware is able to cope with it?
Another thing: it's been over a day and untill now i had no "broken glass" error, which i usually have almost every day when i work with TF3D enabled. Could someone confirm this? Edit: Broken glass still appearing.
Ok, i've tried alot of things now and I simply cannot confirm that this works.
I can confirm that, yes SOME of the 3d tests done above does seem to look better (not faster), except the Billboard one which is super slow (and looks the same).
I've fiddled with fatfs cache settings, file system cache filter settings and now this driver.
I have NOT noticed ANY difference in speed AT ALL.
But TF3D is pretty smooth anyway, so it doesnt really bother me.
ROM Version 1.90.403.6 DAN (danish)
ROM Date: 08/23/08
Radio Version: 1.02.25.19
Protocol Version: 52.33.25.17U
GPS Antenna: 07/09/08, REV.EU01
My Raphael accepted new driver very well photos,programs and music are smoother..
noticed any incompatibilities yet?
(I think there is at least one but can't remember where I read about it)
nothing at all, but I have problem with Program Tab in TF3D since I installed Calendar TAB..Programs Tab freezes and soft reset is needed
Any tips for some simple and whats important fast today screen replacement with some launcher function? Something intuitive like touchflo, from which I use only home/sms/launcher and maybe calendar (but its not really important).
Tried Manila (eats resources like ...), SPB Mobile Shell, WAMD, Inesoft Phone - all of them seems to me bit overstuffed with unneeded stuff, effects and so on. Liked ThrottleLauncher, but its slow and choppy on my X1.
I would like to have something like iContacts style app for desktop. Fast, nice and simple gfx, finger friendly...is it just hard to find? Or there is no such app at all?
Have you tried the basic HTC Homeplug? It takes just half the screen and handles weather, calls, music, progs, people, comm. You can get rid of a couple of tabs if you want too. I ran schaps HTC Homeplug with the stock today screen calendar program for a looong time and it did everything I needed.
Yeah HTC Home plugin, one of the best today plugins. Tried Manila2d but I still switch back to HTC Homeplug..
Any tips how to instal Home Plug to X1 with WVGA?
Tried one from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533 but gfx is messed up and all icons are so small...
I use Ultimate Launch and Love it - It would do everything you want - And supports plugins - Unfortnately I don't know how it would look or even run on your x1
The is a problem with Oziexplorer on HD2.
I made a field test.
Landscape - errors
Portrait - not stable
Routing - does not work at all.
seems ok
Haven't used it long enough as I keep flashing a newer ROM But Ozi appears to be ok on some basic tests. Even landscape came up once you update the GSen registry. I'm on the miri 1.5.
amm009uk;GSen registry - ???.[/QUOTE said:
Whot do you mean? GSen registry - ???
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OZICE working well
I bought and installed OZICE 6 weeks ago. It works well. I had no problems at all. I always use it in portrait mode.
Hi
Ive been running OziExp CE on the HD2 without a hitch.
The secret is to use the screen designer and set the resolution to Pocket PC 240x320. I've tried using a custom 480x800 but it simply wont work!
Ive attached my custom one.
Hoddo
Hoddo said:
Hi
Ive been running OziExp CE on the HD2 without a hitch.
The secret is to use the screen designer and set the resolution to Pocket PC 240x320. I've tried using a custom 480x800 but it simply wont work!
Ive attached my custom one.
Hoddo
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Did you try Routing?
It is working but with a lot of program exceptions and it is not stable.
Landscape support
I haven't tried routing but then I've never used that.
Here's a bunch of entries to support landscape for GoogleMaps, OziExplorer, Garmin and File Explorer.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\WhiteList]
"GMaps"="GoogleMapsMobile"
"OziExp"="OziExplorer"
"FileMan"="FEXPLORE"
"Garmin"="QUE_SUBAPP_WND_CLASS"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\ModuleName]
"GMaps"="\Program Files\GoogleMaps\GoogleMaps.exe"
"OziExp"="\Storage Card\OziExplorer 2\OziExplorerCE.exe"
"FileMan"="\Windows\fexplore.exe"
"Garmin"="\Storage Card\Garmin\Apps\WM\QuePPC.exe"[/SIZE]
Attached shows OziExplorer in landscape. I've done no mods to Ozi.
Ozi works very well on my HD2 (used in on stock roms and custom roms)
I really like the pinch-to-zoom feature in Ozi. (First not factory supported app. on which pinch-to-zoom is working, because zooming in Ozi actually is done by blowing up a bitmap without rescaling)
To get pinch-to-zoom AND rotation working in Ozi use BsBTweaks 1.6. No messing around with the registry, just launch and shake
Coool
appelflap said:
Ozi works very well on my HD2 (used in on stock roms and custom roms)
I really like the pinch-to-zoom feature in Ozi. (First not factory supported app. on which pinch-to-zoom is working, because zooming in Ozi actually is done by blowing up a bitmap without rescaling)
To get pinch-to-zoom AND rotation working in Ozi use BsBTweaks 1.6. No messing around with the registry, just launch and shake
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That is sooooooooooooo cool thanks!
amm009uk said:
I haven't tried routing but then I've never used that.
Here's a bunch of entries to support landscape for GoogleMaps, OziExplorer, Garmin and File Explorer.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\WhiteList]
"GMaps"="GoogleMapsMobile"
"OziExp"="OziExplorer"
"FileMan"="FEXPLORE"
"Garmin"="QUE_SUBAPP_WND_CLASS"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\ModuleName]
"GMaps"="\Program Files\GoogleMaps\GoogleMaps.exe"
"OziExp"="\Storage Card\OziExplorer 2\OziExplorerCE.exe"
"FileMan"="\Windows\fexplore.exe"
"Garmin"="\Storage Card\Garmin\Apps\WM\QuePPC.exe"[/SIZE]
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The question is not in that how rotate OziCE screen. By the way, it is easier to use BsB Tweaks 1.6 for this purpose .
OziCE does not use WVGA but only stretches it up to 800х480. OziCE use Dev - Portrait 240w x 320h.par1 in portrait mode.
It is possible to use OziCE Screen Designer and to create Dev - Portrait 480w x 800h.par1, but it is too big when it loaded.
To check more precisionally try to press COURSE UP button on the screen .
In mode LANDSCAPE try to look through pages.
But better is to be on road and to make it in the car.
About ROUTING I already wrote.
In general it is necessary to wait the version for WM 6.5 800x480.
I have found - it is a problem with .ECW map format reading .ECW from SDHC 8GB card.
If you convert it to .OZFX3 - NO PROBLEM
I have found - it is a problem with .ECW map format or reading .ECW from SDHC 8GB card.
If you convert it to .OZFX3 - NO PROBLEM
If somebody need its - www.gps-info.org.ua