Hey Guys,
I tried searching, but I have no idea what I'm really looking for. I bought a used HTC Evo 3D that was used on Sprint, and switched onto my Alltel Plan. I have the MSL code that I got from CDMA Workshop, and the phone has phone, sms/mms, and wifi, but no mobile data.
The mobile data still tries to connect to the Sprint Network. How do I get it to communicate with Alltel's? Does it have to do with PRL Files or APN"s? Maybe some of the settings in the ##DATA# prompt?
I don't fully understand this stuff, and I don't really know where to go or what to look for, so I apologize if this has been asked before (most likely) or if this is in the wrong section.
Can anyone at least tell me what I need to look for to get this working, if it is at all possible? PRL's, APN's, Radios? Am I able to pull any of it off of my old CDMA Desire?
Just throw me a bone in the right direction. I've been at this for a week now and I'm just going in circles.
I think I got it:
APN's are used for sms/mms
PRL's only deal with which towers you use for calling
Radio's are what I'm looking for to get my mobile data working?
Which brings me to my next few questions.
Does it have to be a carrier specific Radio?
Does it have to come off of the same type of phone, or at least from one of similar hardware structure?
What would be my chances of flashing a foreign radio onto my phone?
If I'm going to be paying for the mobile data, I would really enjoy being able to use it
Still no luck getting it to work. Still no luck getting a reply here. Surely someone here has something valuable to say, one way or the other.
I figured I'd ask here. I'm almost certain that it isn't possible at all to do but you never know what the great devs here at XDA has come up with.
I have a HTC HD7s from ATT. It's a GREAT phone in my opinion. Never had a single problem with it; but I did with AT&T. They were just; lacking in terms of anything in my local area.
Now for my question; It's probably not possible but like I said you never know until you ask. I am currently running on Sprint service with my Epic 4G Touch. Love the service as it does what I need it to do (a lot better then AT&T ever did). Now AT&T is GSM if I'm correct and I know sprint is CDMA.
But what could I change my HD7s over to via flashing/custom roms or whatnot. I doubt sprint would even think of being an option; but if there's a way to get it on even a pre-pay service; I'd love to have it sitting around as a backup phone if I ever needed it. So is it possible to flash over my HD7s to any other carriers? I have read that my current phone can actually be flashed to multiple other carriers, but with sprints (decent) service, there's no need.
Thanks ahead of time!
Your HD7S cannot work on a CDMA network (Sprint, Verizon) because it lacks the necessary radio hardware. No amount of flashing can fix that.
If it's unlocked, you can use it on any GSM network, however; no flashing would be required for that. The most obvious example of a non-AT&T GSM network in the USA is T-Mobile. Your phone will work on T-Mobile but won't get 3G due to lack of AWS UMTS support -- in other words, it doesn't have support for T-Mobile's 3G frequency.
If you can find a virtual network operator that uses AT&T's network, then you should be able to use your phone on that network and get 3G. I'm not up on which operators that might include.
The specific thing you need for your phone is a "SIM-unlock" which means removing the restriction that AT&T puts on their phones to prevent using SIM cards from other carriers. Typically, AT&T will remove this lock for you if you ask them, but otherwise there are sites online that can sell you unlock codes or you could try calling HTC.
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Please use search function, most of the questions are already answered. If you still need to post your doubts please do it in an existing thread. Is really no need to open a new thread with same topic. Dispersed information helps to nobody.
Is anyone here using a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X on AT&T with everything working on 2G and 3G? I don't care about 4G for this particular case.
Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Thanks.
Edit: I decided to buy both a Verizon 8X and a T-Mobile 8X to test.
After 4 days the Verizon was detected
T-Mobile one has still not been detected. Will update if it does.
petard said:
Is anyone here using a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X on AT&T with everything working on 2G and 3G? I don't care about 4G for this particular case.
Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure you would be able to get 3G with any unlocked 8X but only certain models have LTE radios. You will probably need to add an APN to get you're Data/MMS working 100% and I at least had an issue with tethering (not sure if it is hardware or software related) but other than that you should be golden.
Although obvious, I may as well say it. It should be an unlocked phone.
I'm asking for people with personal experience because Windows Phone is such a pain with APN configuration. I have tried a couple unlocked Verizon phones but they won't work with MMS no matter what I do. There is the generic unbranded GSM version, but that one is expensive compared to the branded ones. Also people are complaining that that HTC connection setup utility is broken on the 8X so I would just really like to know if anyone has actually tested it. I don't want to get the AT&T version because they recognize that one and require a data plan and I don't want one on this line.
petard said:
I'm asking for people with personal experience because Windows Phone is such a pain with APN configuration. I have tried a couple unlocked Verizon phones but they won't work with MMS no matter what I do. There is the generic unbranded GSM version, but that one is expensive compared to the branded ones. Also people are complaining that that HTC connection setup utility is broken on the 8X so I would just really like to know if anyone has actually tested it. I don't want to get the AT&T version because they recognize that one and require a data plan and I don't want one on this line.
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Well, ummm, I am talking about personal experience and those are my experiences. What more specifically would you like to know?
BTW, adding the APN is extremely easy if you know how...
mobi said:
Well, ummm, I am talking about personal experience and those are my experiences. What more specifically would you like to know?
BTW, adding the APN is extremely easy if you know how...
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Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Which version of the phone are you using? International unbranded?
petard said:
Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Which version of the phone are you using? International unbranded?
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Yes. Voice, SMS, MMS and data worked fine. AT&T see it just fine and actually, you will probably see it listed in MyATT after you put the SIM in.
My phone is a C625a which has LTE however, an international unlocked version or a Verizon version will work but only certain models will get LTE because of the radios as mentioned above.
mobi said:
Yes. Voice, SMS, MMS and data worked fine. AT&T see it just fine and actually, you will probably see it listed in MyATT after you put the SIM in.
My phone is a C625a which has LTE however, an international unlocked version or a Verizon version will work but only certain models will get LTE because of the radios as mentioned above.
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Is your phone a non-AT&T 8X? Or is it the AT&T branded one?
They are detecting it as an 8X?
Like my thread title says, I want to know if anyone is using a non-AT&T branded 8X. I DO NOT want them to know what phone it is because if they recognize it then they will require a "correct" smartphone data plan which I do not want.
I tried a Verizon Lumia 822 but I could not get MMS to work at all. They even removed the internet and MMS apn configuration pages built into WP8. I could use the Nokia app for setting the APN, but even with the correct MMS settings incoming MMS would not work. Outgoing would work just fine and everything else worked.
I just want to know if anyone has a non-AT&T 8X where everything on 3G works and that AT&T doesn't detect it.
petard said:
Is your phone a non-AT&T 8X? Or is it the AT&T branded one?
They are detecting it as an 8X?
Like my thread title says, I want to know if anyone is using a non-AT&T branded 8X. I DO NOT want them to know what phone it is because if they recognize it then they will require a "correct" smartphone data plan which I do not want.
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YES, non ATT
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YES, non ATT
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I'm sorry but you are very unclear. So your phone is NOT an AT&T branded 8X and they DO detect it as an 8X and require the smartphone data plan?
petard said:
I'm sorry but you are very unclear. So your phone is NOT an AT&T branded 8X and they DO detect it as an 8X and require the smartphone data plan?
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You asked
petard said:
I want to know if anyone is using a non-AT&T branded 8X.
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and I said yes, non ATT which means that it is a non AT&T phone. How else can I say it? It is a non ATT unlocked phone.
mobi said:
You asked and I said yes, non ATT which means that it is a non AT&T phone. How else can I say it? It is a non ATT unlocked phone.
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In my original post I asked
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
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You haven't clearly answered this. All of your answers were ambiguous whether you were answering "YES" to "is it non-AT&T branded" or if it was a response to "Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?"
petard said:
In my original post I asked
You haven't clearly answered this. All of your answers were ambiguous whether you were answering "YES" to "is it non-AT&T branded" or if it was a response to "Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?"
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I give up... Maybe someone else can help you.
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I give up... Maybe someone else can help you.
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I'm sorry that my questions were too confusing for you.
Maybe having it in a list will make it easier for people to respond
Questions:
1. Do you have a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X
2. Does this HTC 8X work 100% with calls, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data connectivity on 3G
3. Does AT&T detect this as a smartphone (Which will force you to have a smartphone dataplan)?
petard said:
I'm sorry that my questions were too confusing for you.
Maybe having it in a list will make it easier for people to respond
Questions:
1. Do you have a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X
2. Does this HTC 8X work 100% with calls, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data connectivity on 3G
3. Does AT&T detect this as a smartphone (Which will force you to have a smartphone dataplan)?
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3. Yes, as you're using a SIM card.
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3. Yes, as you're using a SIM card.
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Simply using a SIM card does not mean AT&T knows what kind of phone it is. AT&T does not detect all smartphones as smartphones. They can detect all AT&T smartphones correctly and they have the ability to detect some non-AT&T smartphones, but not all. It's mostly the very popular unlocked models such as the Nexus models. Most other phones aren't in there database and just appear as unknown.
For instance they do not have the ability of detecting the ATIV S. I have one of those running on one of my lines with a $10 unlimited data plan. It doesn't support AT&T LTE, though, but that isn't an issue for the line it is on.
I would buy another ATIV S for this line, but it's too expensive at around $500. There are many 8Xs available for around $250 and I want to see if anyone is using any of those models without a correct data plan on AT&T.
mobi said:
I give up... Maybe someone else can help you.
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Don't give up. Since you are the only one here did this. Go to your Myatt account page and see which phone is listed there for your line. If it listed as unknown or generic phone, it does not know you are using a Smartphone. If it listed as you are using a 8x, it means AT&T knows your phone is a smartphone. That's what OP wants.
As for OP, unlike WP7, WP8 lets you add data and MMS APNs easily.
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3. Yes, as you're using a SIM card.
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That's non-sense.
foxbat121 said:
Don't give up. Since you are the only one here did this. Go to your Myatt account page and see which phone is listed there for your line. If it listed as unknown or generic phone, it does not know you are using a Smartphone. If it listed as you are using a 8x, it means AT&T knows your phone is a smartphone. That's what OP wants.
As for OP, unlike WP7, WP8 lets you add data and MMS APNs easily.
That's non-sense.
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I ended up buying both a Tmobile 8X and a Verizon 8X. AT&T hasn't detected either and it's been 3 days. The Tmobile one fully works and the Verizon one can't send MMS.
Verizon removed the ability to set a MMS APN manually and the HTC Connection Setup app doesn't work on the Verizon one. It works on the Tmobile one but I believe it configures the phones using the Phone APN for both Internet and MMS. You don't have access to the Phone APN unless you have a smartphone data plan, but thankfully Tmobile didn't screw around too much with the firmware and I was able to manually enter the connection information for both Internet and MMS.
That was interesting. On AT&T 8x, you have two buttons, one to add data APN and one to add MMC APN.
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That was interesting. On AT&T 8x, you have two buttons, one to add data APN and one to add MMC APN.
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Yeah the T-Mobile has both Internet and MMS APN options, but on Verizon the MMS APN option was removed with the Portico update and was present but didn't work (didn't save anything) before Portico.
The Verizon Lumia 822 had both internet and MMS options pre-portico and they both saved what was entered but post-portico they were both gone. Nokia has an APN configuration app though that works post-Portico. Unfortunately even with MMS configured the 822 just won't receive MMS. When an MMS comes in it says "Message not found". Sending MMS from the 822 works fine on AT&T though.
Basically Verizon ****s up MMS so you can't fully utilize a Verizon phone on a GSM carrier.
My T-Mobile 8X mic doesn't work when set to speakerphone though so I will need to get it replaced. I found a few people online with the same issue but they found no solution other than replacement.
The 8X is such a mess.
I guess Verizon will use its CDMA network to deliver MMS. So, it is a problem for them to expose the MMS settings for GSM which may hinder the MMS on CDMA network.
I'm not sure if I'm going to find an answer to this question since there are at most a dozen Photon Q's being used with Bell Mobility up in Canada, but you never know until you ask right?
Just got CM 10.1.3-RC2 (Android 4.2.2) up on my phone, and it's working great with one exception: I'm not being notified when a voicemail message is waiting for me.
I've been looking around and haven't seen anyone else posing this question in relation to the Photon Q, though there have been a few other post around for other phones. However, the suggested answers seem to vary by phone: the HTC Desire Z supposedly needs a radio update, many phones (all?) had issues with CM7, the Inspire 4G apparently needs a bit of specific code., etc...
Does anyone have a solution to this for the Photon Q?
I would love to know how you managed to get Bell's service on your phone, as it doesnt show up properly in their MEID database and they cant give me a straight answer before I use my credit card.
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I would love to know how you managed to get Bell's service on your phone, as it doesnt show up properly in their MEID database and they cant give me a straight answer before I use my credit card.
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Hey unfortunately I never got this sorted out. I'm now running 4.3 and still having the same problem. For me it's not too much of an issue as people rarely seem to make phone calls these days, but I just kind of check my voicemail manually every few days just to be safe.
But you still have voice/text working? I tried bringing it to a Bell store today and they couldn't activate it without a certain hexadecimal 11-key number that's unique to the device.
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But you still have voice/text working? I tried bringing it to a Bell store today and they couldn't activate it without a certain hexadecimal 11-key number that's unique to the device.
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I do have voice, text, and all the other stuff working just fine. I didn't even talk to Bell about "activating" my device, I just took the sim card out of my old phone and put it in the new one, and voila. However, I believe it depends what rom you're running... I'm using CyanogenMod and I believe they include some specific settings to get the phone up on various carriers.
Sorry if this is an obvious question, but you've done the hardware mod needed to use a Canadian (or other) SIM card right?
Basically everything I did I found in a single thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143 It's a long one but chances are you'll find what you need to know somewhere in there!
Ah, I thought you were using their CDMA network. Trying that route before having someone do the mod for me. I'm thinking the key might be the MIN.
So I was messing around in the ##3282# settings, and I clicked "Edit Mode". I thought, "Well, let's guess." I inputted six zero's, and to my surprise, it was the correct MSL code. I don't know how this is but now I can edit the stuffs. Also, this phone has Band 25 LTE 0_0 I didn't know that. Can any of you Cricket users verify that this is only me?
MSL Reader (see the play store) gives it to you if you are properly rooted. Its how I retrieved mine. But I know six zeros won't work on K2_CL lol.
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+1 on MSL Reader
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+1 on MSL Reader
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Didn't know that I could use that 0_0
So, there's a bunch of stuff I can do now with the PRLs hehehe
Maybe I can flash to T-Mobile, they have a $30 5GB unlimited plan. (Prepaid, and SIM Card)
Educate your self!
eduardog131 said:
Didn't know that I could use that 0_0
So, there's a bunch of stuff I can do now with the PRLs hehehe
Maybe I can flash to T-Mobile, they have a $30 5GB unlimited plan. (Prepaid, and SIM Card)
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I dont know all the specs behind it cause there was tons and tons of info and I kinda spiderwebbed out of control reading it. But the jist I got is this PRL's APN's and all that get more credit then what they are deserved. Yes to have a proper one is beneficial but its more about the codec's the radio signal of the phone and towers your connecting to and the system files in your phone itself that will allow you to do what you need to. I am still piecing things together but I am working on a finalized cricket fix to allow the use of LTE, the use of gsm or cdma and the use of European roms. It has become quit the undertaking but before you jump in and start changing files that were initially fine I would properly educate your self on the pros and cons changing the prl.
As of yet I am pretty sure Tmobile wont flash the phone nor will our phone work on the Tmobile network
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I dont know all the specs behind it cause there was tons and tons of info and I kinda spiderwebbed out of control reading it. But the jist I got is this PRL's APN's and all that get more credit then what they are deserved. Yes to have a proper one is beneficial but its more about the codec's the radio signal of the phone and towers your connecting to and the system files in your phone itself that will allow you to do what you need to. I am still piecing things together but I am working on a finalized cricket fix to allow the use of LTE, the use of gsm or cdma and the use of European roms. It has become quit the undertaking but before you jump in and start changing files that were initially fine I would properly educate your self on the pros and cons changing the prl.
As of yet I am pretty sure Tmobile wont flash the phone nor will our phone work on the Tmobile network
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Shhh....I realized the One SV is CDMA on Cricket a long time ago. Mm'kay. I also left this device...so there's that too.
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Shhh....I realized the One SV is CDMA on Cricket a long time ago. Mm'kay. I also left this device...so there's that too.
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Lol I was just going through threads and it's also helpful info for others as well
I have an HTC one SV from Cricket, I like the phone but am not "In love" with it. My problem is this- I just bought the phone then changed providers due to poor service at my address. Since my phone has a SIM card I thought I could switch to AT&T but the phone never accepted the new SIM. AT&T couldn't find out why, Cricket told me their was no unlock code, HTC said it wouldn't work until they ran the date of manufacture and MEID# then all changed.HTC told me to get the msl and I can change the network settings so I I can use GSM instead of CDMA. Any warnings, advice or instructions?? Out of severe stubborn motives, if at all possible I want this HTC on GSM just to prove that I can lol.